I won't tell you that everyone has a 1GIG machine now, but I will say that in less than 3 years most fortune 1000 businesses will have >1Gig machines.
New Dell >1GHZ is now less than $700.00
I will agree that Swing is slower than native widgets, but at least when you write a Swing app it will behave the same way on different GUI's. It can also have the look and feel of the default OS. I have Windows users who have said time and time again that they would NEVER run a JAVA app. Well, they do, but they just don't know it. Our apps look and act just like ones created with VB or C/C++. Our slowest desktop is currently a PII 300 with 64MB of RAM. It runs our apps fair. Our 600MHZ PIII's with 128MB or RAM run great.
So yes the speed will be marginally slower, but the JITs rock now, developers don't have 1 year of Java experience AND processors are generally 10X faster than they were in 1996. Also the amount of RAM a system has now is greatly increased.
Now if you haven't upgraded you computer since 1996, then I would say. "Dude buy a Dell" For ~$700.00 you will see a great performance boost.
A TON of businesses switched to Windows95 from Apple when 95 came out. If Apple wants to maintain or even possibly grow their market share with businesses then they need Microsoft products. This includes the Exchange client (Outlook etc...).
So lets say that Apple ships OpenOffice with OSX. Microsoft could then stop or greatly slow development for I.E., Outlook, and Office for the Mac. This would force quite a few comopanies to switch off of the Macintosh platform. Or at lest take a long look at how a Windows XP machine would perform instead of a Macintosh.
My point with this is similar to Filemaker for the Mac. Apple now ships/supports mySql. That pissed of FileMaker and now they focus "most" of their development on other platforms. I realize that Filemaker is NO Microsoft, so Apple didn't really seem to care.
The best thing they can do is try and build OpenOffice to be a great Mac app. Then possibly put links for "free" downloads from their site. Even this might incur the wrath of Microsoft.
For everyones sake I hope OpenOffice gains a 20+% marketshare over the next five years.
While I agree with what you say in spirit, don't believe that Windows users have it all that easy. Lets say that you bought a machine a few months ago with Windows XP loaded on it. A BUNCH of hardware vendors didn't have drivers out yet for it. You would have had the same complaints.
My point is that everyone has this problem. Yes Linux has it more than the Macintosh and Windows, but for a FREE OS the developers do a great job.
I will try to answer you question. I use Oracle 9i DB and their developer suite. However we use Resin and Apache as our web server and application server.
Oracle provides some cool tools for their developers that allow you to create some cool JSP's without knowing much Java coding. They follow some good design patterns and their code CAN be ported to just about any Java Application server. I have done this to Resin and it works great. Having said that I don't EVER use their wizards, and beans. I do everything by hand. It definately takes me longer but I know what the heck is going on with my apps. However, for a ton of people the wizards and tools are great. I know of a bunch of lower level developers that can do some amazing work in a short amount of time.
For your statement about costing more. I don't agree with that. Once you port from Microsoft to Java, you don't care what platform it runs on any more. Your employer has the ability to very easily migrate to ANY platform later, it appears that they have just picked Sun and Oracle to start with. To be honest they could have picked a lot worse. I am a fan of JBOSS and hope that it gets better, but for a ton of customers it is not the best choice. Same goes for Linux. Just be thankfull that you WILL have a choice in the future without having to touch your code! If you design it correct, then you could even swap out Oracle easily.
Crap! Who has been making fun of them? I didn't even know a Distro had feelings...
Oh you ment UNSECURE.
So you are telling me that if I load RedHat 7.3 and choose a server install with a firewall, it is more prone to attacks than ALL other OSes. Doesn't sound correct to me.
I can't speak for sendmail, but I doubt it has the problems that Exchange has had.
I agree that MOST people will not buy a LINUX version of the software. There are few people that I know that use Linux and buy anything.
The good news is that the development time to "port" this to Linux is not what it was 5 years ago. Now the effort is considerably smaller, and the benifit is that the Linux people will be more apt to "build" a "world" for NWNs'. Linux people tend to be a little bit more in to technology than their Macintosh and Windows counterparts, so if Bioware can get more servers out there and better online worlds then it will only help them with their windows clients sales.
I just hope that they don't include all the bugs that the windows version has.
I did not say that he shouldn't exercise his freedoms. If his ideas are so different than what the core beliefs of what this country is founded on, then I suggested he go somewhere else.
Also to comment on all the other people that want to point out that Thomas Jefferson was a bit weird and a Devil worshiper, I say if he truely believed what you say then his acts wouldn't have been what they were. He probably wouldn't have said "So help me God" as many times as he did...
Again I ask you, what are laws based off of?
If you answer that honestly, then you will sooner or later get around to God and morality.
As was a common saying in WWI; "There are no atheist in fox holes"
You want to be gagged because of One Nation Under God...
You are absolutely pathetic. For the love of God go live in another country. How about somewhere in the middle east. Or how about Africa or China. You obviously haven't fought in any wars for this country and have no concept of what other people did for you to spout off stupid comments like that and live. What do you think would happen to you if you lived in China and wrote negative things about their government? Hmmm...
Where do you think we get our laws from? Do we just make them up. Do you think that we make laws just to allow people to live together? If that was the case then I could have 5 wives and torture animals on the side, have web sites of other sick an perverted things. Why can't I do that? Because it isn't moral.
The problem with that is that developers would have a moving target after a year or two. You would basically be a PC then also.
I know that Microsoft could limit the device to be a 700MHZ speed equivilant, but that would mean constant design work on their part. It would probably cost them more in the long run.
I can only say that I went to Best Buy here in Indianapolis about a month and a half ago and they didn't have any in. I asked when they may get some in and was told that they probably wouldn't be getting in because of lack of sales.
The $185 cost to build a playstation 2 that Red Herring reported is before the cost to fab went down. From what I hear Sony is still selling the PS2 at a profit. I believe that the article mis-stated the facts here. Sony greatly reduced the price of the PS2 when it combined some of the core chips in to one chip.
I see a couple of problems here. One is that Nvidia and Intel will NOT sell their products at a loss. So Microsoft is going to have to pay them what they agreed to pay them in their contracts. Now if Nvidia and Intel can fab their stuff better and cheaper then they get an extra little bit of profit, not Microsoft or new Xbox customers. I am sure this is why Microsoft is wanting to talk to Nvidia about the price of the their graphics card again. I doubt that Nvidia will budge much. They know that Intel won't.
The second problem is that Nvidia and Intel would never work to combine their stuff on one chip. They don't care if it saves Microsoft money. Sony controls this process and it helps them a lot.
On the down side Sony needs to spend BILLIONS in R&D for the PS3 design. Microsoft will just go to Nvidia and Intel/AMD. They do have to spend some amount of money in R&D, but not what Sony and Nintendo do.
Basketball is over, so it isn't that. American Football hasn't begun yet. Baseball is going on but I didn't hear anything about it...
Wow it must be some other sport that nobody in the U.S.A. cares about...
Was it some Quake tournament? No because that would have gotten some attention over here in the states, and not to mention the fact that Germany wouldn't stand a chance.
Ahhh it must be hocky. One of those winter sports that Germany is ok at. Wait a second, it can't be hocky because it is in the middle of freakin summer.
It must be a sport that is even lower down the list of coverage and excitement...
Softball? Noboby follows this much, but if Germany beat the U.S.A. in womans softball then congrats to the women of Germany; and to the women of the U.S.A. at least you shave.
Badmitten? Again congrats to the men err women of Germany.
But if they didn't find out about this one until 3 days after it passed, then isn't is probable that some other one(s) have passed closer? And don't they mean that this is the biggest one that could have caused massive damage. I believe that small ones hit the earth on a somewhat regular basis.
So if most people speed and we want to stop people from speeding, then we should just remove the brakes from someones car... The airbag will save them...
You don't have to harass the users or damage anything. All you have to do is move the "My Documents" folder to a network drive. In the worst case you could even prevent them from writing to anything except the network drive. The last thing you should do is damage a persons data, just to restore it. Think how you will feel if your tape is bad... Oh what if the backup didn't work as you thought....
Dude! Don't crash or deliberately mess someones data up. First of all it is morally wrong, second is if you got caught then your are toast. Most people would fire you on the spot.
Lastly you don't have to do damage to data at all. Give it time and people will mess up. Then if you restore the stuff quickly, they will start using/trusting you more.
I do agree with putting the "My Documents" folder on a universal share. The only issue that could come is space and reliability. If the NT box dies regularly or you are running low on space a lot, this will cause issues.
Don't hold back. Tell us what you really think Mr. Gore...
In all seriousness it is true that the Republicans do favor business more than the Democrats. But that does NOT mean that they don't like open source software. How Bush decided to influence the Microsoft case has nothing to do with his opinion on Open Source Software. Nor is the inverse true, Democrates don't all use Open Source Software...
Now if you believe that any political party doesn't listen strongly to their big political backers then you are a fool. Every party does! The Republicans are no different with this issue.
As far as BIG CAMPAIGNS... anyone who runs for President is going to have a huge campaign.
As far as the SUPREME COURT... they really didn't decide the election, Gore just took their decision and gave up. The outcome would have been the same no matter which way the decision came down. It just would have taken longer.
God I wish your statement were true. But alas most decisions in corporate America have nothing to do with the best technology. They have a lot to do with back door politics. Some unfortunately even involve illegal practices.
I do agree that to compare this to a real war is a bit extreem.
First, I think that this is good news. I hope for the day when I don't have to hear "Well I would switch but XYZ app isn't on Linux".
But your statement about people not wanting to switch off of Novell/Lotus/NT 3.51... I have to ask why should they? I have a church that has been running Mandrake 7.x for well over 2 years now with 0 downtime! It acts as a PDC and a file/print server. That is all they ever needed. We are just now looking at migrating to RedHat 7.3, because they want to do some more with the server. I know of shops with Novell 4.x that have been up for 3+ years with no downtime. Their data gets backed up and they are happy. I agree that in most shops it doesn't make sense to stay back on software forever, but in a lot a places it makes a heck of a lot of sense.
I currently support a Novell 5, NT 4.x and RedHat Linux shop. I like stuff about all three and hate stuff about all three. If the grass is greener on the *nix side of the house, then when the heck are they going to loose the "Owner, Group, Other" file permissions? Specifically when will it ship with most major distro's? Have you ever tried to admin a system with over a couple hundred people and had to deal with this. It sucks when compared to Novell and NT. It is kinda sad in my opinion that the latest UNIX systems still haven't addressed this feature, but NT 3.5 and Novell 2.x did. That is why some of these shops don't want to switch. That and the fact that until Solaris 9, the UNIX answer to directory service was LDAP. Of course this was LDAP with no real tools to admin anything.
I don't play DND hardly ever anymore, but WTF happended to the books. Every time I read one of the new characters it's "SHE" and "HER". I began to think that the only characters you could play were women, but then I realized that TSR just wanted to cram political corectnesd down our throwts.
Note to TSR or whomever makes this stuff now. Drop the she and her stuff and only use it when it applies. I also thought it was funny that they took out the rule that lowered the stats if you chose to be a woman character! No more -1 strength.
Hmmm I just watched the worlds strongest person competition on ESPN and didn't see ONE woman in the contest. Now I am not saying that there isn't a few thoughsand women that couldn't lift a ton (pun) more than me, but come on!
I never thought to ask my systems how they felt. Should I start talking to them more? All I have ever done is yell at them when something goes wrong!
Are coders better at consoltation with a piece of hardware than system administrators? Crap, I better hire some shrinks to start working with our servers now. This explains why our NT boxes crash more than our Linux and Novell boxes. It doesn't have anything to do with software or hardware, it's because we always trash talk about Microsoft!
Oh you didn't mean insecure, you meant unsecure...
This is off topic, but it brings up a good point. I wonder what all these companies in the U.S. and Europe are going to do when all that outsourced I.T. work gets destroyed in a war.
I hope and pray that there isn't a large scale war, but it is probably going to happen.
I also wonder about all the young Indian men that are out of the country, will they be called back to fight?
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I won't tell you that everyone has a 1GIG machine now, but I will say that in less than 3 years most fortune 1000 businesses will have >1Gig machines.
New Dell >1GHZ is now less than $700.00
I will agree that Swing is slower than native widgets, but at least when you write a Swing app it will behave the same way on different GUI's. It can also have the look and feel of the default OS. I have Windows users who have said time and time again that they would NEVER run a JAVA app. Well, they do, but they just don't know it. Our apps look and act just like ones created with VB or C/C++. Our slowest desktop is currently a PII 300 with 64MB of RAM. It runs our apps fair. Our 600MHZ PIII's with 128MB or RAM run great.
So yes the speed will be marginally slower, but the JITs rock now, developers don't have 1 year of Java experience AND processors are generally 10X faster than they were in 1996. Also the amount of RAM a system has now is greatly increased.
Now if you haven't upgraded you computer since 1996, then I would say.
"Dude buy a Dell" For ~$700.00 you will see a great performance boost.
Actually I have another rumor.
IBM is going to buy Apple.
The new company will be called.
IBM
or
Red Hat and Apple are going to merge
The new company will be called
Red Delicious
Ok I think that I know why they won't do this.
A TON of businesses switched to Windows95 from Apple when 95 came out. If Apple wants to maintain or even possibly grow their market share with businesses then they need Microsoft products. This includes the Exchange client (Outlook etc...).
So lets say that Apple ships OpenOffice with OSX. Microsoft could then stop or greatly slow development for I.E., Outlook, and Office for the Mac. This would force quite a few comopanies to switch off of the Macintosh platform. Or at lest take a long look at how a Windows XP machine would perform instead of a Macintosh.
My point with this is similar to Filemaker for the Mac. Apple now ships/supports mySql. That pissed of FileMaker and now they focus "most" of their development on other platforms. I realize that Filemaker is NO Microsoft, so Apple didn't really seem to care.
The best thing they can do is try and build OpenOffice to be a great Mac app. Then possibly put links for "free" downloads from their site. Even this might incur the wrath of Microsoft.
For everyones sake I hope OpenOffice gains a 20+% marketshare over the next five years.
While I agree with what you say in spirit, don't believe that Windows users have it all that easy. Lets say that you bought a machine a few months ago with Windows XP loaded on it. A BUNCH of hardware vendors didn't have drivers out yet for it. You would have had the same complaints.
My point is that everyone has this problem. Yes Linux has it more than the Macintosh and Windows, but for a FREE OS the developers do a great job.
I will try to answer you question. I use Oracle 9i DB and their developer suite. However we use Resin and Apache as our web server and application server.
Oracle provides some cool tools for their developers that allow you to create some cool JSP's without knowing much Java coding. They follow some good design patterns and their code CAN be ported to just about any Java Application server. I have done this to Resin and it works great. Having said that I don't EVER use their wizards, and beans. I do everything by hand. It definately takes me longer but I know what the heck is going on with my apps. However, for a ton of people the wizards and tools are great. I know of a bunch of lower level developers that can do some amazing work in a short amount of time.
For your statement about costing more. I don't agree with that. Once you port from Microsoft to Java, you don't care what platform it runs on any more. Your employer has the ability to very easily migrate to ANY platform later, it appears that they have just picked Sun and Oracle to start with. To be honest they could have picked a lot worse. I am a fan of JBOSS and hope that it gets better, but for a ton of customers it is not the best choice. Same goes for Linux. Just be thankfull that you WILL have a choice in the future without having to touch your code! If you design it correct, then you could even swap out Oracle easily.
RedHat is insecure?
Crap! Who has been making fun of them? I didn't even know a Distro had feelings...
Oh you ment UNSECURE.
So you are telling me that if I load RedHat 7.3 and choose a server install with a firewall, it is more prone to attacks than ALL other OSes. Doesn't sound correct to me.
I can't speak for sendmail, but I doubt it has the problems that Exchange has had.
I agree that MOST people will not buy a LINUX version of the software. There are few people that I know that use Linux and buy anything.
The good news is that the development time to "port" this to Linux is not what it was 5 years ago. Now the effort is considerably smaller, and the benifit is that the Linux people will be more apt to "build" a "world" for NWNs'. Linux people tend to be a little bit more in to technology than their Macintosh and Windows counterparts, so if Bioware can get more servers out there and better online worlds then it will only help them with their windows clients sales.
I just hope that they don't include all the bugs that the windows version has.
I did not say that he shouldn't exercise his freedoms. If his ideas are so different than what the core beliefs of what this country is founded on, then I suggested he go somewhere else.
Also to comment on all the other people that want to point out that Thomas Jefferson was a bit weird and a Devil worshiper, I say if he truely believed what you say then his acts wouldn't have been what they were. He probably wouldn't have said "So help me God" as many times as he did...
Again I ask you,
what are laws based off of?
If you answer that honestly, then you will sooner or later get around to God and morality.
As was a common saying in WWI; "There are no atheist in fox holes"
I am shocked that this got a Score 3.
You want to be gagged because of One Nation Under God...
You are absolutely pathetic. For the love of God go live in another country. How about somewhere in the middle east. Or how about Africa or China. You obviously haven't fought in any wars for this country and have no concept of what other people did for you to spout off stupid comments like that and live. What do you think would happen to you if you lived in China and wrote negative things about their government? Hmmm...
Where do you think we get our laws from? Do we just make them up. Do you think that we make laws just to allow people to live together? If that was the case then I could have 5 wives and torture animals on the side, have web sites of other sick an perverted things. Why can't I do that? Because it isn't moral.
Hmmm and what was the U.S.A founded on?
Why do I see a time comming when the U.S. separates in to three countries. The east cost and west cost and the rest of the country.
Good point
The problem with that is that developers would have a moving target after a year or two. You would basically be a PC then also.
I know that Microsoft could limit the device to be a 700MHZ speed equivilant, but that would mean constant design work on their part. It would probably cost them more in the long run.
I can only say that I went to Best Buy here in Indianapolis about a month and a half ago and they didn't have any in. I asked when they may get some in and was told that they probably wouldn't be getting in because of lack of sales.
The $185 cost to build a playstation 2 that Red Herring reported is before the cost to fab went down. From what I hear Sony is still selling the PS2 at a profit. I believe that the article mis-stated the facts here. Sony greatly reduced the price of the PS2 when it combined some of the core chips in to one chip.
I see a couple of problems here. One is that Nvidia and Intel will NOT sell their products at a loss. So Microsoft is going to have to pay them what they agreed to pay them in their contracts. Now if Nvidia and Intel can fab their stuff better and cheaper then they get an extra little bit of profit, not Microsoft or new Xbox customers. I am sure this is why Microsoft is wanting to talk to Nvidia about the price of the their graphics card again. I doubt that Nvidia will budge much. They know that Intel won't.
The second problem is that Nvidia and Intel would never work to combine their stuff on one chip. They don't care if it saves Microsoft money. Sony controls this process and it helps them a lot.
On the down side Sony needs to spend BILLIONS in R&D for the PS3 design. Microsoft will just go to Nvidia and Intel/AMD. They do have to spend some amount of money in R&D, but not what Sony and Nintendo do.
Welcome to the hardware world Microsoft.
What did Germany beat the U.S. in?
Basketball is over, so it isn't that.
American Football hasn't begun yet.
Baseball is going on but I didn't hear anything about it...
Wow it must be some other sport that nobody in the U.S.A. cares about...
Was it some Quake tournament? No because that would have gotten some attention over here in the states, and not to mention the fact that Germany wouldn't stand a chance.
Ahhh it must be hocky. One of those winter sports that Germany is ok at. Wait a second, it can't be hocky because it is in the middle of freakin summer.
It must be a sport that is even lower down the list of coverage and excitement...
Softball? Noboby follows this much, but if Germany beat the U.S.A. in womans softball then congrats to the women of Germany; and to the women of the U.S.A. at least you shave.
Badmitten? Again congrats to the men err women of Germany.
But if they didn't find out about this one until 3 days after it passed, then isn't is probable that some other one(s) have passed closer? And don't they mean that this is the biggest one that could have caused massive damage. I believe that small ones hit the earth on a somewhat regular basis.
So if most people speed and we want to stop people from speeding, then we should just remove the brakes from someones car... The airbag will save them...
You don't have to harass the users or damage anything. All you have to do is move the "My Documents" folder to a network drive. In the worst case you could even prevent them from writing to anything except the network drive. The last thing you should do is damage a persons data, just to restore it. Think how you will feel if your tape is bad... Oh what if the backup didn't work as you thought....
I think that you are missing the point. If you damage a machine or do stuff to create work for you then you are doing wrong to the company.
Dude! Don't crash or deliberately mess someones data up. First of all it is morally wrong, second is if you got caught then your are toast. Most people would fire you on the spot.
Lastly you don't have to do damage to data at all. Give it time and people will mess up. Then if you restore the stuff quickly, they will start using/trusting you more.
I do agree with putting the "My Documents" folder on a universal share. The only issue that could come is space and reliability. If the NT box dies regularly or you are running low on space a lot, this will cause issues.
Don't hold back. Tell us what you really think Mr. Gore...
In all seriousness it is true that the Republicans do favor business more than the Democrats. But that does NOT mean that they don't like open source software. How Bush decided to influence the Microsoft case has nothing to do with his opinion on Open Source Software. Nor is the inverse true, Democrates don't all use Open Source Software...
Now if you believe that any political party doesn't listen strongly to their big political backers then you are a fool. Every party does! The Republicans are no different with this issue.
As far as BIG CAMPAIGNS... anyone who runs for President is going to have a huge campaign.
As far as the SUPREME COURT... they really didn't decide the election, Gore just took their decision and gave up. The outcome would have been the same no matter which way the decision came down. It just would have taken longer.
God I wish your statement were true. But alas most decisions in corporate America have nothing to do with the best technology. They have a lot to do with back door politics. Some unfortunately even involve illegal practices.
I do agree that to compare this to a real war is a bit extreem.
First, I think that this is good news. I hope for the day when I don't have to hear "Well I would switch but XYZ app isn't on Linux".
But your statement about people not wanting to switch off of Novell/Lotus/NT 3.51... I have to ask why should they? I have a church that has been running Mandrake 7.x for well over 2 years now with 0 downtime! It acts as a PDC and a file/print server. That is all they ever needed. We are just now looking at migrating to RedHat 7.3, because they want to do some more with the server. I know of shops with Novell 4.x that have been up for 3+ years with no downtime. Their data gets backed up and they are happy. I agree that in most shops it doesn't make sense to stay back on software forever, but in a lot a places it makes a heck of a lot of sense.
I currently support a Novell 5, NT 4.x and RedHat Linux shop. I like stuff about all three and hate stuff about all three. If the grass is greener on the *nix side of the house, then when the heck are they going to loose the "Owner, Group, Other" file permissions? Specifically when will it ship with most major distro's? Have you ever tried to admin a system with over a couple hundred people and had to deal with this. It sucks when compared to Novell and NT. It is kinda sad in my opinion that the latest UNIX systems still haven't addressed this feature, but NT 3.5 and Novell 2.x did. That is why some of these shops don't want to switch. That and the fact that until Solaris 9, the UNIX answer to directory service was LDAP. Of course this was LDAP with no real tools to admin anything.
I don't play DND hardly ever anymore, but WTF happended to the books. Every time I read one of the new characters it's "SHE" and "HER". I began to think that the only characters you could play were women, but then I realized that TSR just wanted to cram political corectnesd down our throwts.
Note to TSR or whomever makes this stuff now. Drop the she and her stuff and only use it when it applies. I also thought it was funny that they took out the rule that lowered the stats if you chose to be a woman character! No more -1 strength.
Hmmm I just watched the worlds strongest person competition on ESPN and didn't see ONE woman in the contest. Now I am not saying that there isn't a few thoughsand women that couldn't lift a ton (pun) more than me, but come on!
insecure?
I never thought to ask my systems how they felt. Should I start talking to them more? All I have ever done is yell at them when something goes wrong!
Are coders better at consoltation with a piece of hardware than system administrators? Crap, I better hire some shrinks to start working with our servers now. This explains why our NT boxes crash more than our Linux and Novell boxes. It doesn't have anything to do with software or hardware, it's because we always trash talk about Microsoft!
Oh you didn't mean insecure, you meant unsecure...
This is off topic, but it brings up a good point. I wonder what all these companies in the U.S. and Europe are going to do when all that outsourced I.T. work gets destroyed in a war.
I hope and pray that there isn't a large scale war, but it is probably going to happen.
I also wonder about all the young Indian men that are out of the country, will they be called back to fight?