Wrong. You used Warforge, not Bnetd. It's people like you that made bnetd look bad.
Also, ad banners on battle.net screens? Please. You give an argument essentially stating that all ad banners for third party websites having blizzard game info is lost revenue for blizzard. This is in fact, not at all the reason the court used to shut down the website.
One of the things that actually happened in the beta test was losing actual beta testers to the warforge servers because they got to play with more people! OMG... So blizzard trying to conduct the beta test of probably millions of dollars in server infrastructure saw there numbers dwindling. I remember the conversations in the Warcraft III beta channels. That is why blizzard got pissed. However they wised up and made it so you can have 5 connections to the beta server with one key, and the numbers shot up again to near playable so they could test things like AMM. So if anyone costs blizzard money it was from wasted time from people like YOU.
A few corrections. Bnetd wasn't a company, it was a group of programmers. When blizzard sent take down notices, they actually stopped development. It was hosted by an ISP. It was the ISP blizzard sued. The ISP had nothing to do with bnetd except they hosted the domain. So what blizzard won was the domain name and shutdown a small ISP.
Bnetd wasn't intimately tied with Blizzard products. If you read the code, you'll find that it had third party support specified with it, and you'll find realization of the progress of bnetd's goals of multiple environments with todays pvpgn (really bnetd) and Red Alert support.
The whole concept of recognizing known viruses was fundamentally flawed. It had a good run,
More than ten years ago, before windows 95, and most people were using DOS and DOS virus scanners, I had someone (comparable to a modern day script-kiddie) from my high school ask me to scan a disk to see if the viruses he had on there were detected. Even then he knew if the popular virus scanners of the day couldn't detect them, that he could potentially use them. It was then I realized that virus scanners were a joke and never have used those crappy bloated active scanners since. I don't think any virus scanners ever had a good run because the average kid back in the day knew they could be fooled.
and developers have to get their braindead apps fixed.
Is that really going to happen? Most games require admin privileges because they install some kernel level driver for copy protection on run. Either they'll still run as admin, or the non-admin account will be admin in different clothes. Even if vista has a real non-admin mode, something is going to spectacularly fail.
Oh, BTW, if you read that, you'll find that it didn't even require a myspace site bug. It was just IE badly interpreting a page. The key is the large homogenious mass of people and myspace gave it that.
Eh? Warcraft 1 had a unit editor. War2 had a map editor that allowed changing some unit stats. Starcraft allowed you to create new units. Besides the official tools, there are modding tools for War2 and Starcraft that allow you to mod about everything with the game. There were huge modding communities for these games at the time, but these games successor, Warcraft 3 includes a full-blown official modder that beats anything out there. So Warcraft 3 really has replaced the others (although alot of people still play SC as a sport)
Warcraft 2 was an older game that ran on a 386 (I sure did). TA is a generation newer. For War2 to have been a game like TA would have required a pentium which were bloody expensive in 1995 when it came out. War2 was simpler for a distinct reason -- so everyone could play it. It was more popular because it was out longer too. It's not fair to compare War2 to TA. TA's competitor was always SC anyway.
Linux has made it near-impossible for *any* proprietary drivers to exist whatsoever. I agree with the grandparent, the Linux community should get down on their knees and thank NVidia and ATI that they have any drivers at all.
Eh, why should I do that? I have fully supported 3D and can run any game available using open source drivers provided by the community. Thanking them for nothing or attempting to make use of their drivers seems to be a step in the wrong direction to me.
Sorry to inform you, but Nvidia and ATI did not start providing drivers because of their goodwill towards the small joe linux user. They are doing it because they are making big bucks. Nvidia has been making graphics hardware for animation using the UNIX platform. When these businesses started switching to linux, Nvidia switched too. ATI started providing a driver as well because they are trying to compete for the same market. If one drops out, they have just graciously handed the market to the other for no reason. It will never happen.
Really think about it. There have never has been a hit 3D game on linux to justify major investment for (basing on real sales because that is what any businessman would ask to see), there wasn't any 3D animation software until fairly recent (when it became necessary), and there has been no amazing graphical eye-candy desktop either. The reason XGL is being made is because people started to realize we have these drivers, and they're not being put to use for the ordinary person.
AGP is obsolete. For PCs that were manufactured in 2006, it's pretty much Intel or binary drivers.
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You're using the open source drivers. They work far better. People buying the newest cards have to stick with ATI closed source driver. It simply doesn't work on my machine, and for far too many people. That is why people say to buy Nvidia if you are going to buy a new video card.
I have slackware-current, yes, CURRENT running on a 486 DX 33 laptop, 12 MB of RAM, 200 MB HD. It even runs X, python, gcc. Kernel version 2.6.14. It supports wireless with native drivers too. This is probably way under powered for what they are considering for the $100 laptop; so I know they can do far more. Trust me, they can really do whatever they want with linux.
You're wrong about Slackware. Don't generalize. It has had 2.6 support for two years now. 10.2 is fairly up to date in terms with all the typical distro releases, and if you want the latest there is slackware-current. Funny thing is, when I speak to my gentoo friend, I am always one or two versions a head of him with certain packages. But that is of course because I roll my own too, even the bleeding edge. You don't need gentoo ebuilds to do that.
The end result is that it would be perfectly legal for AMD to say their chips are "Intel" if it allows AMD chips to interoperate with Intel-only software. (Like Skype.) This happens all the time -- look at the browser ID strings for MSIE and Safari
The sad thing is, this is basically what bnetd did, but look how that case was decided.
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Hehehe, I've had TWM doing that for years. I have the three buttons mapped to different menus and can get it anywhere I click on the desktop.
There is actually a very easy way to bypass those checks.
You should really be using Wine, not cedega. It has better ATI support and D3D9 is almost complete.
Wrong. You used Warforge, not Bnetd. It's people like you that made bnetd look bad.
Also, ad banners on battle.net screens? Please. You give an argument essentially stating that all ad banners for third party websites having blizzard game info is lost revenue for blizzard. This is in fact, not at all the reason the court used to shut down the website.
One of the things that actually happened in the beta test was losing actual beta testers to the warforge servers because they got to play with more people! OMG... So blizzard trying to conduct the beta test of probably millions of dollars in server infrastructure saw there numbers dwindling. I remember the conversations in the Warcraft III beta channels. That is why blizzard got pissed. However they wised up and made it so you can have 5 connections to the beta server with one key, and the numbers shot up again to near playable so they could test things like AMM. So if anyone costs blizzard money it was from wasted time from people like YOU.
A few corrections. Bnetd wasn't a company, it was a group of programmers. When blizzard sent take down notices, they actually stopped development. It was hosted by an ISP. It was the ISP blizzard sued. The ISP had nothing to do with bnetd except they hosted the domain. So what blizzard won was the domain name and shutdown a small ISP.
Bnetd wasn't intimately tied with Blizzard products. If you read the code, you'll find that it had third party support specified with it, and you'll find realization of the progress of bnetd's goals of multiple environments with todays pvpgn (really bnetd) and Red Alert support.
I just formatted the disk and gave it back saying it detected and cleaned it all without warning. He didn't want to lose them either :P
The whole concept of recognizing known viruses was fundamentally flawed. It had a good run,
More than ten years ago, before windows 95, and most people were using DOS and DOS virus scanners, I had someone (comparable to a modern day script-kiddie) from my high school ask me to scan a disk to see if the viruses he had on there were detected. Even then he knew if the popular virus scanners of the day couldn't detect them, that he could potentially use them. It was then I realized that virus scanners were a joke and never have used those crappy bloated active scanners since. I don't think any virus scanners ever had a good run because the average kid back in the day knew they could be fooled.
and developers have to get their braindead apps fixed.
Is that really going to happen? Most games require admin privileges because they install some kernel level driver for copy protection on run. Either they'll still run as admin, or the non-admin account will be admin in different clothes. Even if vista has a real non-admin mode, something is going to spectacularly fail.
And intel has already stated that their next gen chip will be fully supported in linux with dri.
Oh, BTW, if you read that, you'll find that it didn't even require a myspace site bug. It was just IE badly interpreting a page. The key is the large homogenious mass of people and myspace gave it that.
A myspace epidemic? It's already happened. We should have realized by now.
It's tagged experimental. The driver is not stable enough though works for some people.
Yeah, and blizz used to call War3 and RPS, Role-Playing Strategy, so I thought the same thing.
So did Warcraft 2.
Eh? Warcraft 1 had a unit editor. War2 had a map editor that allowed changing some unit stats. Starcraft allowed you to create new units. Besides the official tools, there are modding tools for War2 and Starcraft that allow you to mod about everything with the game. There were huge modding communities for these games at the time, but these games successor, Warcraft 3 includes a full-blown official modder that beats anything out there. So Warcraft 3 really has replaced the others (although alot of people still play SC as a sport)
Warcraft 2 was an older game that ran on a 386 (I sure did). TA is a generation newer. For War2 to have been a game like TA would have required a pentium which were bloody expensive in 1995 when it came out. War2 was simpler for a distinct reason -- so everyone could play it. It was more popular because it was out longer too. It's not fair to compare War2 to TA. TA's competitor was always SC anyway.
Linux has made it near-impossible for *any* proprietary drivers to exist whatsoever. I agree with the grandparent, the Linux community should get down on their knees and thank NVidia and ATI that they have any drivers at all.
Eh, why should I do that? I have fully supported 3D and can run any game available using open source drivers provided by the community. Thanking them for nothing or attempting to make use of their drivers seems to be a step in the wrong direction to me.
Sorry to inform you, but Nvidia and ATI did not start providing drivers because of their goodwill towards the small joe linux user. They are doing it because they are making big bucks. Nvidia has been making graphics hardware for animation using the UNIX platform. When these businesses started switching to linux, Nvidia switched too. ATI started providing a driver as well because they are trying to compete for the same market. If one drops out, they have just graciously handed the market to the other for no reason. It will never happen.
Really think about it. There have never has been a hit 3D game on linux to justify major investment for (basing on real sales because that is what any businessman would ask to see), there wasn't any 3D animation software until fairly recent (when it became necessary), and there has been no amazing graphical eye-candy desktop either. The reason XGL is being made is because people started to realize we have these drivers, and they're not being put to use for the ordinary person.
AGP is obsolete. For PCs that were manufactured in 2006, it's pretty much Intel or binary drivers.
Whatever. Have it your way.
----
The Millennium G550 PCIe graphics card brings the reliability, stability, and features of the proven Millennium G550 product line to PCI Express systems. The x1 design of the card makes it compatible with all compliant PCI Express slots - especially useful for systems with no available PCI Express x16 slots. In addition to having Matrox display drivers for Windows, the Millennium G550 PCIe is the world's first PCI Express graphics card with open-source display drivers for Linux and other Unix-like operating systems.
Argh. YaST source has always been available. It was just that the license it used to have forbid using the code in other programs.
You're using the open source drivers. They work far better. People buying the newest cards have to stick with ATI closed source driver. It simply doesn't work on my machine, and for far too many people. That is why people say to buy Nvidia if you are going to buy a new video card.
I have slackware-current, yes, CURRENT running on a 486 DX 33 laptop, 12 MB of RAM, 200 MB HD. It even runs X, python, gcc. Kernel version 2.6.14. It supports wireless with native drivers too. This is probably way under powered for what they are considering for the $100 laptop; so I know they can do far more. Trust me, they can really do whatever they want with linux.
You're wrong about Slackware. Don't generalize. It has had 2.6 support for two years now. 10.2 is fairly up to date in terms with all the typical distro releases, and if you want the latest there is slackware-current. Funny thing is, when I speak to my gentoo friend, I am always one or two versions a head of him with certain packages. But that is of course because I roll my own too, even the bleeding edge. You don't need gentoo ebuilds to do that.
The end result is that it would be perfectly legal for AMD to say their chips are "Intel" if it allows AMD chips to interoperate with Intel-only software. (Like Skype.) This happens all the time -- look at the browser ID strings for MSIE and Safari
The sad thing is, this is basically what bnetd did, but look how that case was decided.
Also reminds me of that sherrif in Arizona who had webcams in his jail...the man was ahead of his time.
Yes, there's actually someone who's not afraid to show how he actually runs things. However, I think he got sued and the webcam was taken down.