I was wondering when somebody was going to mention the MonsantoSoft monoculture aspect of all this. As convenient as it may be for brain dead powers that be to all do the exact same thing, it's a bad idea for socient from a safety / engineering-redundancy (reliability) aspect.
Diversity is good for software, plants and animals in the long run.
Agreed. The JVM does an decent job, and C# has some pretty nice syntactic conveniences.
I ran a string whacking benchmark (posted on my website, roboprogs.com: "... faster..." page), and, for a sequential task, Perl cleaned up handily. However, for the commonly available languages on *nix, Java outshone everything else for dealing with threads. Keep in mind this was a naive use of threads as well: fire up for a single task, rather than having a thread pool that looped over requests from a queue. Java still did a good job managing it.
(though I do wish Java had more alternatives for quick and dirty coding at times - weakly typed options, delegate/function pointer type stuff -- still need to look more into jRuby, Scala, Groovy, et al)
it was necessary to regulate it. Without limited effective regulation, such as requiring this stuff to be labeled, it can be hard to conduct fair, non-coerced, transactions. I am not saying we should outright ban the stuff -- what if somebody is in a situation where the choice is grow this, because nothing else will? But it would be nice to make an informed decision.
Either regulations, or de-regulation, can go overboard. What was right 10 or 20 years ago may be too much or too little now.
Any sufficiently advanced monopoly is indistinguishable from communism. Some guys in a room on the central planning committee decide production for an entire industry, and see to it that there are no questions from the populace.
Other than for disabled voters, e-voting seems to be a solution in search of a problem. It's expensive, hard to use and unreliable.
Even if you had an open source voting machine, how much would you trust it? Given stories about (actual, not speculated) hacks like the original unix cc + login hack, it's quite possible that even seeing the source is not always enough if the stakes are high.
FYI: Somebody at Bell labs in the 70s made an administrative / support back door into Unix by patching the login program to have an "extra" account. If you deleted this back door from the source code to login, the compiler put it back (presumably you could take steps to hide what you were building from the compiler, but for simple partial clean-ups...). If you then cleaned up the source to cc, and recompiled the source to cc using cc, it put THAT hack back in AS WELL. Open source is NOT enough -- you have to have the entire "stack" in your development environment be trust-WORTHY.
The risks of these machines outweigh the benefits for all but disabled voters. Even then, a disabled-friendly interface could still produce an immutable human readable (paper or other tangible medium) artifact to be placed in a lock box. These artifacts should then be either human counted (I know it costs a few hours and dollars -- it's IMPORTANT, OK?) or PERHAPS counted by multiple scanners from different vendors.
On the other hand, if your requirement is "make it hard to detect cheating", the current paperless systems support that feature rather nicely.
As someone who has spent most of his life in "the other California" in the Central Valley, I would have to imagine that a better route for a train line in the state would be NOT to go up highway 1 (as scenic as it is), or interstate 5 (all the way), but rather highway 99. There are 5 cities of between 200,000 and 1,000,000 million people along that route, each about a two hour car trip apart (Bakersfield, Fresno, Modesto, Stockton, Sacramento) or a bit closer in some cases. It is not as direct, but hey, why not use the state capitol as the hub between the E-W line to the bay area and the N-S line to Southern California?
Who knows, perhaps some good would come of joining the three cultures:-) (south, bay, valley)
Easy: scientists futzed around for about a decade before grasping at this particular straw and not letting go.
I don't put much weight in string theory, either, for reasons mentioned by others: it doesn't make predictions which could be proven false by an experiment.
What if gravity just simply can't be joined to the other forces -- what if there are no bogon particle swaps, and space just really is bent to affect a "field" / "force gradient", the end?
Don't assume the trivia (star babies and scandals) on TV and other media is what the people want. Just as much a factor is what the corporations want to tell us / not offending other corporate advertisers.
Of course, that's why *we* are on the internet, instead of watching the "boob tube". Ugh.
Yeah, I'm not much interested in helping the police break the law either, only in preventing crime and making neighborhoods safe. "Patriot", indeed. Bah!
Give me liberty of give me death? Don't tread on me? I guess those are pretty dated attitudes.
First, thank you for looking this up. It's not surprising ("the right foisting off propaganda? say it ain't so!").
One minor detail, though: Based on what I have been reading in various science mags, the earth is undeniably warming, losing glaciers, etc. HOWEVER, the cause of this may be multiple factors, the extent of which each plays a part still to be determined. It's unfortunate that general public / political denial seems to be preventing adequate quantitative research into those factors. One reason why I say it may be more than CO2, for instance, is that Mars is also losing its polar ice cap coverage that last decade. I *think* there is at least one other solar system moon with a similar issue, but the name escapes me.
Sometimes, there is more than one problem, and determining the main contributing factor is worthwhile.
Sorry if I sound like a GOP schill, I am SO NOT (blech). Public transportation would be really nice to have, for instance.
Why not emulate the slashdot/blog-forum mechanism of moderation?
Allow search engine users to "vote" on the +/- worthiness of search results. Place a strict cap on the number of votes allowed from an IP address to avoid google-bomb type behaviour (perhaps image map the voting buttons to make it harder to vote via web-bot?).
If the search result is spam, mod the link down so others can avoid this crud in the future. Allow modding up to, why not. If a domain gets modded down "too many" times (weight as needed), give the domain bad karma and predispose its servers and pages to negative weightings (too many downmods to crap73.ihostspam.biz downmods the karma of all the *.ihostspam.biz) for a while (tune "parole" period as needed). Also, send the registered owner / webmaster of the domain email or perhaps even paper mail (?) informing him/her of the downgrading of their search results, and why. If the domain is actually colocation hosting for multiple organizations, perhaps the other users there can arrange a suitable "blanket party" for the guilty. E.g. - take down the offending site / server, and or perhaps physically harm the scumbag responsible in the most egregious cases:-)
Yeah, user interaction might be asking for too much, but what do the rest of you think?
Thanks for the links. The vet in the wheelchair arguing with the "troop supporter" is just too ironic.
It's not just 20ish folks that hit the net. I'm 41, and I've firmly come to the conclusing that while it's hard to verify what any site / author says, relevance just won't be found on TV (aka boob tube), so it's off to scan the net.
Interesting login name:-) "The beryllium sphere has fractured, under stress"?
The Global Hawk is between the size of a large attack craft (F-111 or so?) or small commercial airliner. While it goes nowhere near Mach, it can go anywhere on the globe (one way) on a tank of gas. The article has no mention of its weaponry, but its big, so do the math. No pilot to feel any remorse in the next blitzkrieg...
That is a tough challenge, given that our government has done so little to reign in corporate power in the last 20 years. Unfortunately, what I mostly have is counter-examples:
* California deregulated electricity companies (thank you so much, Pete Wilson, Republican jerk!), and shortly after, we got our bills "Enron"-ed, big time. Amazing how the flack fell on the governor's successor, though, for something that went into effect AFTER the real perp was out of office.
* We used to have rules limiting media ownership concentration, but that infernal Reagan and friends tore up those laws. Our national mass media is owned by very few corporations now, and ignores any story that might hurt the fascist party line.
The GOP is very, very BAD Kool-Aid, folks. I for one would like to take a pass on the whole Jonestown cult with a taste of 1930's central Europe thing, myself. Ah, hell, let's call a spade a spade: they are just plain bastards. Due process? War based on lies? Torture? Thousands dead in this country due to neglect? Billions and Billions $ served to their good ol' buddies? Their platform is this: cheap labor for inherited wealth, by any and all means needed. Christian values??? I think NOT. Unless the talk helps.
Up until about 3 or 4 years ago, I was a swing voter (I'm registered as an independant, thank you very much). But I'm sick to death of these "friendly fascist" rethugs, that I WILL hold my nose and vote Dems. Still sucks, but sucks less...
OK, end rant, no more coffee for me for a while, I guess.:-)
Or, perhaps we could say that the law is all about playing well with others, and that is what we as a society want: for everybody to get along nicely, even the schoolyard bully.
Why NOT have a law that says that as an internet service provider, you set the rated upload and download speeds you provide YOUR immediate customers, and are forbidden to discriminate against traffic based on content type, or which customer-of-the-customer it is.
If a local ISP buys a slower hookup from a backbone company, they of course won't serve their customers well, and will be subject to rejection in the market (unless the price is right (cheap), of course). Otherwise, if an ISP buys a fat hookup to the backbone, the backbone providers have no business screwing over some of that ISP's customers by selectively strangling throughput.
If the local ISP wants to offer different kinds of service and arrange the differing connection types, fine. But the big boys should not be able to look into the traffic and decide that packets coming up from "corporatemofos.com" (or whatever) should have 90% packet loss or be uploaded at at 128 Kb/s, when the ISP is providing a 1024 Kb/s uplink and other sites the ISP services or hosts have 1024 Kb/s uplinks that work just fine.
Spit out the "conservative" (fascist) Kool-Aid, and think of how evil men will screw over pretty much everybody if the majority fail to threaten them with jail time or fees. Like the school yard bully, some of these people only understand the threat that the rest of the kids are going to gang up and dish out some retribution. (a fine use for government, IMHO).
The free market often works, but some people need threats to stay in line.
Some things work well on the open market, while some, if one only looks, do not. As the article (in "Forbes", for crying out loud!) stated, there isn't much financial incentive to make these, so it's not a good business.
Even if I only needed the product for a week, it might be a week I'd care to survive.
Market forces can no more solve every problem than the government can solve every problem. Each situation needs to be examined on its own merit, party zealots... (in this case, Libertarian or Fascist, er, Republican supporters)
The voter should *not* get a "receipt", so that he/she can be paid/blackmailed to vote a certain way. However, the machines should produce a write-only-once piece of human (as well as machine) readable output, such as a paper or plastic card with holes punched or permanent OCR ink markings.
The use of a machine to make selections is OK, but under no circumstances should the "permanent" record of my vote be made on a piece of computer storage media such as a hard disk or flash memory card. That is completely insane.
Our elections MUST have an immutable audit trail, while remaining anonymous. Each voter (or a trusted friend/agent in the case of the visually impaired or otherwise disabled) verifies that the physical record of the vote is as intended, then deposits that record in a container kept under watch by multiple parties.
If the votes are tallied by computers (they're good at that), fine. BUT, a physical record is available for recounts and audits of accuracy.
Anybody wanting a system making auditing impossible must be assumed to be up to fraud. No other interpretation makes sense.
Is it too late? Would a voter initiative for auditable voting simply be rejected by the powers that be already put in place, even if favored by 75% of the public in polls? THIS is the gravest issue facing our democracy now, on which the fate of all other issues hang. It is a coup of horrific proportion. (though corporate financing of election campaigns is a close second to be sure)
If allowed, the corps will conspire to play games based on the source/destination, the prototal/port, and any other odd detail they see fit to inspect and harass. Just saying, so beware.
Some legislation is good, unless it's not, then get rid of it. Ethics gets corporate execs fired, and there is 0 tolerance of it.
Yes, your connection gets better when you pay more. Nobody is disputing that. I'm happy to pay more for DSL than dial up.
The dangerous part is if the nationwide networks effectively SHUT DOWN some kinds of traffic. What good does it do to be able to shuttle stuff up/down to your local ISP, if the nationwide carriers decide your content is to undesirable/subversive to carry it out across the "wide area" at a reasonable speed?
Folks, deregulating a public utility is just another inroad for corporate fascism.
The way the article read to me, it's not just the bandwidth available to my house. The issue is preferential treatment, or blocking, of content based on the type of content / application protocol and/or *WHO* the content is coming from.
I buy a service with a certain rated upload and download speed. I read a political blog, which is hosted somewhere with a contract for certain up/down bandwidth. In the middle of that, the powers that be decide it just isn't very important to deliver the message, at least quickly enough to be useful. It's kind of the equivalent of a cyber-bomb to Al Jazeera, in the worst case. Of course, this sort of BS probably won't usually happen, but it sucks that they want to deregulate to the point where it can.
Mmmm. I love the smell of fascism in the morning -- smells like, stupidity!
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I was wondering when somebody was going to mention the MonsantoSoft monoculture aspect of all this. As convenient as it may be for brain dead powers that be to all do the exact same thing, it's a bad idea for socient from a safety / engineering-redundancy (reliability) aspect.
Diversity is good for software, plants and animals in the long run.
Agreed. The JVM does an decent job, and C# has some pretty nice syntactic conveniences.
I ran a string whacking benchmark (posted on my website, roboprogs.com: "... faster ..." page), and, for a sequential task, Perl cleaned up handily. However, for the commonly available languages on *nix, Java outshone everything else for dealing with threads. Keep in mind this was a naive use of threads as well: fire up for a single task, rather than having a thread pool that looped over requests from a queue. Java still did a good job managing it.
(though I do wish Java had more alternatives for quick and dirty coding at times - weakly typed options, delegate/function pointer type stuff -- still need to look more into jRuby, Scala, Groovy, et al)
it was necessary to regulate it. Without limited effective regulation, such as requiring this stuff to be labeled, it can be hard to conduct fair, non-coerced, transactions. I am not saying we should outright ban the stuff -- what if somebody is in a situation where the choice is grow this, because nothing else will? But it would be nice to make an informed decision.
Either regulations, or de-regulation, can go overboard. What was right 10 or 20 years ago may be too much or too little now.
Any sufficiently advanced monopoly is indistinguishable from communism. Some guys in a room on the central planning committee decide production for an entire industry, and see to it that there are no questions from the populace.
I wish I could see your comment printed in our local paper, "The Bee". Of course, these are facts they seem to not want to know. :-(
Other than for disabled voters, e-voting seems to be a solution in search of a problem. It's expensive, hard to use and unreliable.
Even if you had an open source voting machine, how much would you trust it? Given stories about (actual, not speculated) hacks like the original unix cc + login hack, it's quite possible that even seeing the source is not always enough if the stakes are high.
FYI: Somebody at Bell labs in the 70s made an administrative / support back door into Unix by patching the login program to have an "extra" account. If you deleted this back door from the source code to login, the compiler put it back (presumably you could take steps to hide what you were building from the compiler, but for simple partial clean-ups...). If you then cleaned up the source to cc, and recompiled the source to cc using cc, it put THAT hack back in AS WELL. Open source is NOT enough -- you have to have the entire "stack" in your development environment be trust-WORTHY.
The risks of these machines outweigh the benefits for all but disabled voters. Even then, a disabled-friendly interface could still produce an immutable human readable (paper or other tangible medium) artifact to be placed in a lock box. These artifacts should then be either human counted (I know it costs a few hours and dollars -- it's IMPORTANT, OK?) or PERHAPS counted by multiple scanners from different vendors.
On the other hand, if your requirement is "make it hard to detect cheating", the current paperless systems support that feature rather nicely.
So I could mod this drivel as +1 Funny.
I sure hope that was sarcasm. (otherwise, I hope *you* forget to vote in November, as I'm not a big fan of the folks taking over our country)
Let's play "Jeopardy":
A: Strong militant nationalism, favoring a partnership between government and corporate interests, and against organized labor.
.
.
.
Q: What is "fascism"?
(from the italian term "fasci" for their corporate rulers back in the day)
(Godwin's law be damned, the shoe fits)
Needs a new corrolary.
s/Hitler/Bush/g; s/Nazi/GOP/g;
END THREAD, eh? Yes, it's unfortunate. Of course, if they didn't promote strong militant nationalism in support of government-corporate alliance...
-5, off topic?
--clickety--
Company policy against that sort of thing you say? I'm not sure, you'll have to look in the backup vault, in case we had it archived.
--slam--
You make some good points, BUT...
:-) (south, bay, valley)
As someone who has spent most of his life in "the other California" in the Central Valley, I would have to imagine that a better route for a train line in the state would be NOT to go up highway 1 (as scenic as it is), or interstate 5 (all the way), but rather highway 99. There are 5 cities of between 200,000 and 1,000,000 million people along that route, each about a two hour car trip apart (Bakersfield, Fresno, Modesto, Stockton, Sacramento) or a bit closer in some cases. It is not as direct, but hey, why not use the state capitol as the hub between the E-W line to the bay area and the N-S line to Southern California?
Who knows, perhaps some good would come of joining the three cultures
Easy: scientists futzed around for about a decade before grasping at this particular straw and not letting go.
I don't put much weight in string theory, either, for reasons mentioned by others: it doesn't make predictions which could be proven false by an experiment.
What if gravity just simply can't be joined to the other forces -- what if there are no bogon particle swaps, and space just really is bent to affect a "field" / "force gradient", the end?
Don't assume the trivia (star babies and scandals) on TV and other media is what the people want. Just as much a factor is what the corporations want to tell us / not offending other corporate advertisers.
Of course, that's why *we* are on the internet, instead of watching the "boob tube". Ugh.
Yeah, I'm not much interested in helping the police break the law either, only in preventing crime and making neighborhoods safe. "Patriot", indeed. Bah!
Give me liberty of give me death? Don't tread on me? I guess those are pretty dated attitudes.
First, thank you for looking this up. It's not surprising ("the right foisting off propaganda? say it ain't so!").
One minor detail, though: Based on what I have been reading in various science mags, the earth is undeniably warming, losing glaciers, etc. HOWEVER, the cause of this may be multiple factors, the extent of which each plays a part still to be determined. It's unfortunate that general public / political denial seems to be preventing adequate quantitative research into those factors. One reason why I say it may be more than CO2, for instance, is that Mars is also losing its polar ice cap coverage that last decade. I *think* there is at least one other solar system moon with a similar issue, but the name escapes me.
Sometimes, there is more than one problem, and determining the main contributing factor is worthwhile.
Sorry if I sound like a GOP schill, I am SO NOT (blech). Public transportation would be really nice to have, for instance.
Why not emulate the slashdot/blog-forum mechanism of moderation?
:-)
Allow search engine users to "vote" on the +/- worthiness of search results. Place a strict cap on the number of votes allowed from an IP address to avoid google-bomb type behaviour (perhaps image map the voting buttons to make it harder to vote via web-bot?).
If the search result is spam, mod the link down so others can avoid this crud in the future. Allow modding up to, why not. If a domain gets modded down "too many" times (weight as needed), give the domain bad karma and predispose its servers and pages to negative weightings (too many downmods to crap73.ihostspam.biz downmods the karma of all the *.ihostspam.biz) for a while (tune "parole" period as needed). Also, send the registered owner / webmaster of the domain email or perhaps even paper mail (?) informing him/her of the downgrading of their search results, and why. If the domain is actually colocation hosting for multiple organizations, perhaps the other users there can arrange a suitable "blanket party" for the guilty. E.g. - take down the offending site / server, and or perhaps physically harm the scumbag responsible in the most egregious cases
Yeah, user interaction might be asking for too much, but what do the rest of you think?
Thanks for the links. The vet in the wheelchair arguing with the "troop supporter" is just too ironic.
:-)
It's not just 20ish folks that hit the net. I'm 41, and I've firmly come to the conclusing that while it's hard to verify what any site / author says, relevance just won't be found on TV (aka boob tube), so it's off to scan the net.
Interesting login name
"The beryllium sphere has fractured, under stress"?
There are 11 types of people in the world: those who can count in *unary*, and those who don't need to use their fingers and toes, er, "can't". :-)
Personally, my money is on the unary group being the larger of the 11 / 10 / 2 groups.
Off-topic as can be, happy April 1...
The Predator is armed with 2 Hellfire missiles.
The Global Hawk is between the size of a large attack craft (F-111 or so?) or small commercial airliner. While it goes nowhere near Mach, it can go anywhere on the globe (one way) on a tank of gas. The article has no mention of its weaponry, but its big, so do the math. No pilot to feel any remorse in the next blitzkrieg...
That is a tough challenge, given that our government has done so little to reign in corporate power in the last 20 years. Unfortunately, what I mostly have is counter-examples:
:-)
* California deregulated electricity companies (thank you so much, Pete Wilson, Republican jerk!), and shortly after, we got our bills "Enron"-ed, big time. Amazing how the flack fell on the governor's successor, though, for something that went into effect AFTER the real perp was out of office.
* We used to have rules limiting media ownership concentration, but that infernal Reagan and friends tore up those laws. Our national mass media is owned by very few corporations now, and ignores any story that might hurt the fascist party line.
The GOP is very, very BAD Kool-Aid, folks. I for one would like to take a pass on the whole Jonestown cult with a taste of 1930's central Europe thing, myself. Ah, hell, let's call a spade a spade: they are just plain bastards. Due process? War based on lies? Torture? Thousands dead in this country due to neglect? Billions and Billions $ served to their good ol' buddies? Their platform is this: cheap labor for inherited wealth, by any and all means needed. Christian values??? I think NOT. Unless the talk helps.
Up until about 3 or 4 years ago, I was a swing voter (I'm registered as an independant, thank you very much). But I'm sick to death of these
"friendly fascist" rethugs, that I WILL hold my nose and vote Dems. Still sucks, but sucks less...
OK, end rant, no more coffee for me for a while, I guess.
Or, perhaps we could say that the law is all about playing well with others, and that is what we as a society want: for everybody to get along nicely, even the schoolyard bully.
Why NOT have a law that says that as an internet service provider, you set the rated upload and download speeds you provide YOUR immediate customers, and are forbidden to discriminate against traffic based on content type, or which customer-of-the-customer it is.
If a local ISP buys a slower hookup from a backbone company, they of course won't serve their customers well, and will be subject to rejection in the market (unless the price is right (cheap), of course). Otherwise, if an ISP buys a fat hookup to the backbone, the backbone providers have no business screwing over some of that ISP's customers by selectively strangling throughput.
If the local ISP wants to offer different kinds of service and arrange the differing connection types, fine. But the big boys should not be able to look into the traffic and decide that packets coming up from "corporatemofos.com" (or whatever) should have 90% packet loss or be uploaded at at 128 Kb/s, when the ISP is providing a 1024 Kb/s uplink and other sites the ISP services or hosts have 1024 Kb/s uplinks that work just fine.
Spit out the "conservative" (fascist) Kool-Aid, and think of how evil men will screw over pretty much everybody if the majority fail to threaten them with jail time or fees. Like the school yard bully, some of these people only understand the threat that the rest of the kids are going to gang up and dish out some retribution. (a fine use for government, IMHO).
The free market often works, but some people need threats to stay in line.
Er, privatization.
Some things work well on the open market, while some, if one only looks, do not. As the article (in "Forbes", for crying out loud!) stated, there isn't much financial incentive to make these, so it's not a good business.
Even if I only needed the product for a week, it might be a week I'd care to survive.
Market forces can no more solve every problem than the government can solve every problem. Each situation needs to be examined on its own merit, party zealots... (in this case, Libertarian or Fascist, er, Republican supporters)
as a one-liner, cliche, eh?
A few comments.
The voter should *not* get a "receipt", so that he/she can be paid/blackmailed to vote a certain way. However, the machines should produce a write-only-once piece of human (as well as machine) readable output, such as a paper or plastic card with holes punched or permanent OCR ink markings.
The use of a machine to make selections is OK, but under no circumstances should the "permanent" record of my vote be made on a piece of computer storage media such as a hard disk or flash memory card. That is completely insane.
Our elections MUST have an immutable audit trail, while remaining anonymous. Each voter (or a trusted friend/agent in the case of the visually impaired or otherwise disabled) verifies that the physical record of the vote is as intended, then deposits that record in a container kept under watch by multiple parties.
If the votes are tallied by computers (they're good at that), fine. BUT, a physical record is available for recounts and audits of accuracy.
Anybody wanting a system making auditing impossible must be assumed to be up to fraud. No other interpretation makes sense.
Is it too late? Would a voter initiative for auditable voting simply be rejected by the powers that be already put in place, even if favored by 75% of the public in polls? THIS is the gravest issue facing our democracy now, on which the fate of all other issues hang. It is a coup of horrific proportion. (though corporate financing of election campaigns is a close second to be sure)
"D - all of the above"
If allowed, the corps will conspire to play games based on the source/destination, the prototal/port, and any other odd detail they see fit to inspect and harass. Just saying, so beware.
Some legislation is good, unless it's not, then get rid of it. Ethics gets corporate execs fired, and there is 0 tolerance of it.
Yes, your connection gets better when you pay more. Nobody is disputing that. I'm happy to pay more for DSL than dial up.
The dangerous part is if the nationwide networks effectively SHUT DOWN some kinds of traffic. What good does it do to be able to shuttle stuff up/down to your local ISP, if the nationwide carriers decide your content is to undesirable/subversive to carry it out across the "wide area" at a reasonable speed?
Folks, deregulating a public utility is just another inroad for corporate fascism.
I think you are pretty close to the real problem.
The way the article read to me, it's not just the bandwidth available to my house. The issue is preferential treatment, or blocking, of content based on the type of content / application protocol and/or *WHO* the content is coming from.
I buy a service with a certain rated upload and download speed.
I read a political blog, which is hosted somewhere with a contract for certain up/down bandwidth.
In the middle of that, the powers that be decide it just isn't very important to deliver the message, at least quickly enough to be useful. It's kind of the equivalent of a cyber-bomb to Al Jazeera, in the worst case. Of course, this sort of BS probably won't usually happen, but it sucks that they want to deregulate to the point where it can.
Mmmm. I love the smell of fascism in the morning -- smells like, stupidity!
Well, I liked it, LOL