I agree with you, but most HR goons do not. *They* want some clown with 5 years experience (no more, no less) in VB version N.0 (whatever version came out last month), or some other exact, small, skill set.
I'll not hide behind A/C status to say so, though.
Frankly, I'm often shocked at the amount of BS that users of GUI admin tools will tolerate.
How do I? CLI: man foo ; more README (search for keywords) GUI: *H*elp | *I*ndex... (OK, here we're about the same: if system has docs, you're off and running, otherwise, "Use the Source, Luke" -- you *do* have source, right?)
What changed? CLI: run rcsdiff / cvs diff on cfg file to check GUI: uh, I *think* I clicked on...
Where is it? CLI: find / grep... GUI: keep on clicking, it's in one of those menus / dialog *somewhere*, you PDB.
How do I back it up: CLI: tar cf backup.tar the_dir GUI: click on backup C: thingy, hope for the best in regards to "registry" retardation.
Have I flamed enough? No? Go read "The Pragmatic Programmer" - "The Basic Tools" chapter, or "In the Beginning Was the Command Line".
Of course, when I started programming, there were no Macs and no stinking Windoze. That's not a hardship, it's a plus!
OK, I've been programming for almost 20 years, and yes, this is true to a point. There have been a few cases where I *had to* write some assembler. Only a few lines (embedded in Pascal or C), I'm not good at it (I dislike it), but it was the only way (PC/DOS bios / interrupt stuff).
I'd rather be working in Perl. But if I have to, I can write Java. But if I have to, I can write C. But if I have to, I can write assembler. Oops, I can't solder worth beans, oh well.
Get it done quick (highest level practical), but get it done so it does what is needed (lowest level required for speed / access / stupid computer tricks).
I fully agree about the (NOT!) One Language to code them all attitude. People who only know the "script kiddie" or "Zimbu (tail-on-mouse) Wizard" tools make good / economical assistants, but don't put them in charge, or expect them to do Great Works all by themselves.
Look at what happened to Apple: Pepsi-Man kicked out Steve Jobs, and they pretty much went nowhere for almost 10 years, other than making yet another Mac (OK, so Jobs killed the Newton, but it was too big to put in my pocket anyway).
Meanwhile, Jobs has a team slap together NextStep, which while it was a commercial failure, raised the bar on what Windows (NT) and / or Oh-a-stew needed to be.
Then, Jobs comes back, and now NextS..,er, OS X seems to be doing quite well for Apple. (now that Soda-Man is gone)
Actually, I have used Postgres at home to do offline development of a project on Oracle at work. It's a pretty good system.
On the other hand, I also work with several MySQL fanatics (young'uns raving about "speed, speed, speed!"), who don't want to bother changing databases for dept. toy db's.
I suppose you will find a mix of people most places: the majority who want / need something quick and dirty (sub for SQL Server) and a minority who want / need something that absolutely works (sub for Oracle).
Am I supposed to take this seriously? Do they have a "do not attempt to connect to the internet if you feel like a vulnerable weenie today" option, too?
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I agree with you, but most HR goons do not. *They* want some clown with 5 years experience (no more, no less) in VB version N.0 (whatever version came out last month), or some other exact, small, skill set.
I'll not hide behind A/C status to say so, though.
Frankly, I'm often shocked at the amount of BS that users of GUI admin tools will tolerate.
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How do I?
CLI: man foo ; more README (search for keywords)
GUI: *H*elp | *I*ndex
(OK, here we're about the same: if system has docs, you're off and running, otherwise, "Use the Source, Luke" -- you *do* have source, right?)
What changed?
CLI: run rcsdiff / cvs diff on cfg file to check
GUI: uh, I *think* I clicked on...
Where is it?
CLI: find / grep
GUI: keep on clicking, it's in one of those menus / dialog *somewhere*, you PDB.
How do I back it up:
CLI: tar cf backup.tar the_dir
GUI: click on backup C: thingy, hope for the best in regards to "registry" retardation.
Have I flamed enough? No? Go read "The Pragmatic Programmer" - "The Basic Tools" chapter, or "In the Beginning Was the Command Line".
Of course, when I started programming, there were no Macs and no stinking Windoze. That's not a hardship, it's a plus!
OK, I've been programming for almost 20 years, and yes, this is true to a point. There have been a few cases where I *had to* write some assembler. Only a few lines (embedded in Pascal or C), I'm not good at it (I dislike it), but it was the only way (PC/DOS bios / interrupt stuff).
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I'd rather be working in Perl. But if I have to, I can write Java. But if I have to, I can write C. But if I have to, I can write assembler. Oops, I can't solder worth beans, oh well
Get it done quick (highest level practical), but get it done so it does what is needed (lowest level required for speed / access / stupid computer tricks).
I fully agree about the (NOT!) One Language to code them all attitude. People who only know the "script kiddie" or "Zimbu (tail-on-mouse) Wizard" tools make good / economical assistants, but don't put them in charge, or expect them to do Great Works all by themselves.
Is that like "Mostly harmless"???
(sorry, couldn't help myself)
OK, sample of 1, but here goes:
Look at what happened to Apple: Pepsi-Man kicked out Steve Jobs, and they pretty much went nowhere for almost 10 years, other than making yet another Mac (OK, so Jobs killed the Newton, but it was too big to put in my pocket anyway).
Meanwhile, Jobs has a team slap together NextStep, which while it was a commercial failure, raised the bar on what Windows (NT) and / or Oh-a-stew needed to be.
Then, Jobs comes back, and now NextS..,er, OS X seems to be doing quite well for Apple. (now that Soda-Man is gone)
Actually, I have used Postgres at home to do offline development of a project on Oracle at work. It's a pretty good system.
On the other hand, I also work with several MySQL fanatics (young'uns raving about "speed, speed, speed!"), who don't want to bother changing databases for dept. toy db's.
I suppose you will find a mix of people most places: the majority who want / need something quick and dirty (sub for SQL Server) and a minority who want / need something that absolutely works (sub for Oracle).
What? Only inter-planetary. I guess we're still a ways away from a *real* net like in Vernor Vinge's "Fire upon the Deep" or the like.
I guess I/P would be a convenient transparency, but it sounds more like a UUCP bang-path problem
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or some such thing (OK, I want something to look up the route for me, but I want something to indicate the "expense" of the trip, also)
Upgrade to Blight 2.0!
(TM 200002, Micro$lop Corporation)
P.S. - one way signal time to Mars is in the 3 minute neighborhood at opposition, maybe 11 minutes worst case.
Not that many people would both want to, and be able to, but...
Is is possible / practical to install some kind of SAMBA client (emulate win98?) on a Win XP box?
If you can't bring SAMBA (etc) to Windows, then bring Windows to SAMBA.
Yes, I know this doesn't help the vendor much to require a client driver to be installed on 3,000 desktop machines...
XP = eXtrememly Proprietary
Am I supposed to take this seriously? Do they have a "do not attempt to connect to the internet if you feel like a vulnerable weenie today" option, too?