I never signed a license when I glanced at the M$ docs. Nor a contract. Clicking buttons is how you get to things on the web, and implies no real agreement. Now if they had me sign an NDA on real paper first....
A derivative work is when I write a sequel to your fiction novel. This is the equivalent of me producing my own phone book, and using Bell's phone book for the info.
That info isn't copyrightable, in and of itself. This has been decided in court (the phone book example is real).
I used to get pissed that I'd get the most unfair moderations possible. But it's impossible to do that now... you got modded offtopic for this?
CmdrTaco got modded offtopic, in his own story, on his own slashdot, for something 100% on topic, for something that would still be worth reading even if offtopic... etc.
Do I laugh or cry?
Please tell me the guy that did that now has -150 karma.
Can't some fool like me (I hope I'm not volunteering) read the document, and then write his own version of the documentation with whatever license he wants?
Certainly I'm allowed to write whatever works I want, especially ones devoted to some obtuse piece of knowledge like this.
Hehe... but that's by choice, of course. Gotta be careful, or those trolls will be quoting you in the next rant "even FreeBSD users admit there is no keyboard support!".
There isn't a huge number of linux projects (please read on before modding as troll).
There also isn't a huge number of BSD projects.
Actually, most of these projects... GNOME, KDE, etc... are pretty kernel/distribution independent. Remember, linux is only the kernel. Most of what you think of as linux, is GNU software. And it's all pretty portable, to a certain extent, even to windows (barf).
Linux and BSD don't compete for projects, they share them.
Slightly offtopic: What's with the "bsd is dying troll" variant that claims BSD lacks SMP? Will the next version claim that BSD has no keyboard support or shell prompt?
Can you truly prove that the trolls aren't dying? I've had my faith tested before, but it would come as a shocking blow to know that these weenies might somehow achieve immortality. Certainly, they have to be vulnerable to everything the rest of us are... can they not be killed?
Sooner or later, real life karma HAS TO catch up with them. We may never know for certain, but I for one, am looking for that strange little article on page 4 of the newspapers, describing how the most unbelievable set of circumstances managed to simultaneously drown, decapitate, burn, crush and and poison some pimply faced jerk of a teenager. This will be the one clue we have... that, and the slight S/N ratio increase here on/.
There once was a troll from slashdot To hear him, you'd think him a crackpot He kept screaming "BSD IS DYING!" With false statistics, exaggeration, and lying In truth, his rants were less pleasant than crotch-rot
Honestly, with the possibility of needing more storage (I'm guessing that 400mhz systems probably had what? 10 gigs or so?) I don't see what problem you have. These are office machines, not servers whose load increases each week. Even then, these not only meet the minimum requirements for win2k (Which, btw, I think is a bad choice), but should be spiffy enough that no one dies of terminal annoyance using them.
Am I missing something? Are these software development systems (where compile times have alot to do with productivity) or maybe web design/graphic arts systems (where someone is bitching for the latest Macromedia tool) ? You've given absolutely zero compelling reasons for such a massive upgrade, with you willingly admit that you are on a shoestring budget. It's a wonder that your dotcom isn't dead like the rest.
You got it all wrong. Mike Dell is the *cow*. I have it on good authority that he really does do the cow voice in the commercials. Anonymously, of course.
Analyze your words carefully. You claim it's not your religion, and yet "I know it's the best system for a society of our size.". Sounds like faith to me, for something which is fundamentally unknowable.
I claim to not know what the best system is, and you accuse me of being religious? All I know, is that it could be alot better, and that it is flawed enough (capitalism that is) that it worries me.
Effective? Effective is a word that is meaningless by itself. As in, you can only be effective AT SOMETHING, not plain EFFECTIVE. What is it that you're trying to imply that you think is so damn obvious? The only thing capitalism is effective at, is indoctrinating fools like you, and making the poor poorer.
Why not? So the plastic case doesn't get landfilled... just the CRT and mobo, huh? 90% of a butchered vintage computer does get landfilled, usually the worst parts too, from an eco standpoint. Not to mention, the things that make it cool.
Man, we're on the same side. Even if I am a sarcastic asshole.
But honest to god, the gap was already there, if not quite public. Besides, for every person that was turned off by the namecalling, there was another person impressed by the truth in it. This is a situation where there aren't any rewards worth having forr pulling punches.
Slashdot Mirror
Alan Cox fights war
Against Uber-copyright
No chance to survive
I never signed a license when I glanced at the M$ docs. Nor a contract. Clicking buttons is how you get to things on the web, and implies no real agreement. Now if they had me sign an NDA on real paper first....
A derivative work is when I write a sequel to your fiction novel. This is the equivalent of me producing my own phone book, and using Bell's phone book for the info.
That info isn't copyrightable, in and of itself. This has been decided in court (the phone book example is real).
I'm pretty sure the "night" reference counts as a kigo. Maybe I'm wrong...
I used to get pissed that I'd get the most unfair moderations possible. But it's impossible to do that now... you got modded offtopic for this?
CmdrTaco got modded offtopic, in his own story, on his own slashdot, for something 100% on topic, for something that would still be worth reading even if offtopic... etc.
Do I laugh or cry?
Please tell me the guy that did that now has -150 karma.
Can't some fool like me (I hope I'm not volunteering) read the document, and then write his own version of the documentation with whatever license he wants?
Certainly I'm allowed to write whatever works I want, especially ones devoted to some obtuse piece of knowledge like this.
Don't you love it, when someone comes along and mod bombs 4 of your comments all at once?
With overrated, no less. Cheap shot. I think I'll write another haiku about it.
Crack smoke wafts through air
Humorless moderator
Why do you hate me?
Touche. I like yours better. Hell, I messed up the haiku too, as far as that goes.
Hehe... but that's by choice, of course. Gotta be careful, or those trolls will be quoting you in the next rant "even FreeBSD users admit there is no keyboard support!".
It's not a competition. Agreed.
There isn't a huge number of linux projects (please read on before modding as troll).
There also isn't a huge number of BSD projects.
Actually, most of these projects... GNOME, KDE, etc... are pretty kernel/distribution independent. Remember, linux is only the kernel. Most of what you think of as linux, is GNU software. And it's all pretty portable, to a certain extent, even to windows (barf).
Linux and BSD don't compete for projects, they share them.
Slightly offtopic: What's with the "bsd is dying troll" variant that claims BSD lacks SMP? Will the next version claim that BSD has no keyboard support or shell prompt?
Crap. You're right, that's 6 syllables. Am I bad.
Can you truly prove that the trolls aren't dying? I've had my faith tested before, but it would come as a shocking blow to know that these weenies might somehow achieve immortality. Certainly, they have to be vulnerable to everything the rest of us are... can they not be killed?
/.
Sooner or later, real life karma HAS TO catch up with them. We may never know for certain, but I for one, am looking for that strange little article on page 4 of the newspapers, describing how the most unbelievable set of circumstances managed to simultaneously drown, decapitate, burn, crush and and poison some pimply faced jerk of a teenager. This will be the one clue we have... that, and the slight S/N ratio increase here on
There once was a troll from slashdot
To hear him, you'd think him a crackpot
He kept screaming "BSD IS DYING!"
With false statistics, exaggeration, and lying
In truth, his rants were less pleasant than crotch-rot
Is dying, BSD
Ugly Troll screams into night
Nobody listens
As the Grand Poobah of Scientology?
Ha ha.
Honestly, with the possibility of needing more storage (I'm guessing that 400mhz systems probably had what? 10 gigs or so?) I don't see what problem you have. These are office machines, not servers whose load increases each week. Even then, these not only meet the minimum requirements for win2k (Which, btw, I think is a bad choice), but should be spiffy enough that no one dies of terminal annoyance using them.
Am I missing something? Are these software development systems (where compile times have alot to do with productivity) or maybe web design/graphic arts systems (where someone is bitching for the latest Macromedia tool) ? You've given absolutely zero compelling reasons for such a massive upgrade, with you willingly admit that you are on a shoestring budget. It's a wonder that your dotcom isn't dead like the rest.
Even Gates never failed to make the distinction. Linux is a cancer, remember, not piracy.
Besides, at least the pirates use windows. Us linux users are much more lowlife, in their opinion.
You got it all wrong. Mike Dell is the *cow*. I have it on good authority that he really does do the cow voice in the commercials. Anonymously, of course.
Analyze your words carefully. You claim it's not your religion, and yet "I know it's the best system for a society of our size.". Sounds like faith to me, for something which is fundamentally unknowable.
I claim to not know what the best system is, and you accuse me of being religious? All I know, is that it could be alot better, and that it is flawed enough (capitalism that is) that it worries me.
Effective? Effective is a word that is meaningless by itself. As in, you can only be effective AT SOMETHING, not plain EFFECTIVE. What is it that you're trying to imply that you think is so damn obvious? The only thing capitalism is effective at, is indoctrinating fools like you, and making the poor poorer.
$50 to the first person that mods down the inevitable "wow, the fisher price linux distro" troll.
I'd give it about 20 minutes.
Why not? So the plastic case doesn't get landfilled... just the CRT and mobo, huh? 90% of a butchered vintage computer does get landfilled, usually the worst parts too, from an eco standpoint. Not to mention, the things that make it cool.
Man, we're on the same side. Even if I am a sarcastic asshole.
But honest to god, the gap was already there, if not quite public. Besides, for every person that was turned off by the namecalling, there was another person impressed by the truth in it. This is a situation where there aren't any rewards worth having forr pulling punches.
Man, I sat there for 20 minutes, trying to figure out how. I'm not sure he has any arguments to rebut. His facts are plain wrong.
Huh? Do you even understand the conversation?
The only thing that could mark you more clueless, would be if you started touting Windows.NET as the true modern OS.