It's not so much that you can't hide info in either audio or video, but that they look suspicious themselves.
A chinese dissident listening to american audio for hours at a time (due to low bitrate) may not look like a VPN connection, but it sure as hell looks like they're listening to western propaganda (music) of some sort.
Video, for hours at a time must mean cybersex, and how would chinese authorities react to that? Would it be red-flagged or not?
Actually, it doesn't solve their problem. I'm quite certain that installing freenet is a crime, and so is sending encrypted packets.
Freenet is bad for them. Even metanet is problematic for such people. I've been working on this problem, and it isn't easy. But here's what I have so far. The VPN software a chinese dissident would need, has to be disguised as something innocuous. I'm thinking a boring "shareware-esque" network game. There would be a legit version, and one that stegonographically hides data in the game packets. The problem with this approach, is that there are few games that would be adequate for it.
Chess isn't all that appropriate. There are relatively few moves, and more so, there are even less moves that make any kind of sense. So if you hide bits in there, it's going to have to be in some metadata somewhere, and I don't think that's all that safe.
Go has more potential, but not much. What else is left? I'm looking for a non-traditional game, maybe something tetris like, I suppose. Even so, how many bits can be squeezed through such a connection? At best, this chinese dissident is going to be lucky to get a pop3 account through the thing, hardly the 1st class network connection I had hoped for.
Non-game connections all look contrived. I can't hide it in a grainy 160x120 webcam feed, without someone noticing. Audio has the same implications. Random looking bits simply aren't easy to hide in ways that don't look suspicious... anyone have any suggestions?
How will they know what's american, what is not? It's basically a peering arrangement, among 100s of people who don't know who each other are.
Besides, no one is going to want to peer with someone who censors arbitrary things. If they do, they fision off, and there are 2 metanets.
The 3 big bad things that all agree to censor so far are: #1 Terrorist communication. Saying you think the WTC should have been destroyed doesn't meet this criteria, saying "Achmed, destroy target A!" does. #2 Spam. No description needed. #3 Kiddy porn. Some peope draw the line here differently. Traci Lords in a movie at age 17 isn't the same thing as someone molesting a 3 yr old, in my opinion.
Even so, it's not censorship, but me not wanting to peer with people who allow that. Just as if I had chose not to publish their manifesto in my newspaper, I'm not censoring here either. And as I perfect the idea of what a metanet is, they're allowed to do what I do, and can learn from my experience (to a degree).
But jackboot thugs saying "you can't criticize Mr. Bush on your metanet"... that kind of censorship simply isn't possible. Even people worrying about lawsuits isn't a concern. So just what kind of censorship is it again that I am creating?
Do not make the mistake of believing that all systems offering freedom and anonymity have this problem.
Try Metanet. As a true peer, not only do you decide how to use the hardware that you donate to the cause, but anything truly reprehensible like kiddy porn can be null routed quickly.
Then try out my scheme. Anonymous IPv4 network, and you only store what you want on it. Perhaps an email server with a vanity domain name, or whatever.
None of this bullshit bbs-style "let's send files around". It's 2004, not 1982.
None of the "is there kiddy porn on my machine?". IPv4, works just as most would expect.
As for pedophiles and terrorists... they're still going to be a problem. We don't intend to ignore them though... their real-life identity may be hidden, but that doesn't mean a 10.x.x.x IP address isn't there to see. Most router admins take that sort of thing seriously, and they would lose their invitation quickly (and I wouldn't be ashamed if the one that knew their internet IP turned them in). Those router admins who don't take that behavior seriously, will end up quickly de-routed.
I still have 5 slots open for router admins, for anyone not residing in the USA. Contact me.
It can do ethernet bridging. So just about anything, is the answer to your question.
I emailed the author a few months back, begging for SOCKS5 support. He said sorry, I have no plans for it. Politely. But damned if the latest release doesn't support socks. I'm nominating him for networking godhood.
And I think for practical purposes, it's as secure as anything out there. Certainly easier to use than freeswan...
Granted, but do you advocate writing PC applications directly for Win32 in assembly language rather than for some portable toolkit such as wxWindows, GTKmm, Qt, etc? Or do you approach this argument from the perspective of one developing video game engines for handheld devices, where every cycle does in fact count?
There are those of us that wish Windows coders (both those writing apps, and those Redmondites who write Windows itself) were so anal that they considered every cycle "to count".
Because they sure as hell aren't making up for the slowness by trading off against small build sizes....
This is actually possible, using so-called emulation. Companies such as U.S.-based Codeweavers offer such products. But this will not give you applications that are actually compiled for Linux.
Stefan Pettersson, technical manager for IBM's Lotus division in Sweden, said that there will be a Java client of Lotus Notes some time during the second half of 2004. This means that the first "native" Notes client to run under Linux will soon be available.
How exactly is that "native? I'm sorry, but a java version is only native to that weird Sun java cpu that never made it out of production... it's nothing more than emulation for a machine that doesn't actually exist.
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Better question:
Which looks more like a narn from Babylon 5?
Someone needs to photoshop a picture of G'Kerry for us...
Windows for users (single route to meta) is acceptable. The routers are somewhat safer. If you're smart enough to see this, why not join up, and be one less vulnerable meta user, and throw a monkey wrench in the plans of those agencies?
Quake3? Lag isn't too horrible for the 2-4 hop distances that we can currently manage (anywhere from 90ms on up to 210ms) but even that is pushing it for twitch games.
Everything else is very useful. And our bandwidth is pretty nifty for a volunteer effort.
I haven't fixed the sig because I'm a lazy slob. Sorry about that.
In all seriousness, it's anti-business. Can't accept money for the most part, without revealing identities.
Besides, I get value out of it even if I get no money. Just having a non-shitty internet is worth the trouble. I couldn't buy that for all the money in the world... but I can get it by investing some spare time. Seems like a bargain.
You had me right up until the Microsoft thing. It just so happens that everything they do is a sinister plot to rule the world. The rest is quite debatable though.
And everything a kid could reasonably want would be included in this.kids domain?
Hardly, dotcom sits would dwarf that TLD 10,000 to 1. So the kid still has to beg to get access to the site he needs to be able to do a essay. No help there. A.kids TLD (if the only one they're allowed to use) is the same thing as restricting them from the internet entirely. At that point, you might as well talk about creating a seperate K-12 internet strictly for school use.. while not qualitatively different from a.kids TLD, it at least is a bit more clear and honest what is happening.
No matter what we do, it will only be worse. As a US citizen, I can say with some manner of expertise that my congressmen will find a way to fuck it up royally. Remember, these are the guys that think a "dot porn" and a "dot kids" TLD will actually fix anything. Even if it's managed by some federal bureau or dept (FCC?), they kowtow to congress and corps.
And don't even get me started on the UN.
I'm personally writing off the internet, and I don't have any expectations. If DNS dies completely, fine. I don't expect the web to be anything other than a stinky pile of feces, which it mostly is (80%), and definitely not email (110% smelly dung there).
Hope if you like, and prayer can't hurt. But stop lying to yourself that we can fix it. If you really want to be proactive, help me build a new internet. If my scheme seems stupid, then do freenet, or whatever. The internet is ours no longer.
Not really. It's divided into "slots", and your cable modem can only talk when its turn comes up. Cable modems just recieving all the initialization stuff fight over a few open slots, but since most don't initialize at the same time anyway, it's rarely a problem.
Bandwidth is still limited, but it's something ungodly on my HFC networks. Enough that he could easily do 10mps to that local neighbor, and not really bother anyone.
I have an Indy, R5000. Also the DECstation 5000/120. I'm no stranger to MIPS.
As for the N64, I think it just makes the cutoff for ram in linux (isn't it 2 or 4 megs?). HD? Why not build an interface... the Dreamcast guys did that.
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It's not so much that you can't hide info in either audio or video, but that they look suspicious themselves.
A chinese dissident listening to american audio for hours at a time (due to low bitrate) may not look like a VPN connection, but it sure as hell looks like they're listening to western propaganda (music) of some sort.
Video, for hours at a time must mean cybersex, and how would chinese authorities react to that? Would it be red-flagged or not?
Actually, it doesn't solve their problem. I'm quite certain that installing freenet is a crime, and so is sending encrypted packets.
Freenet is bad for them. Even metanet is problematic for such people. I've been working on this problem, and it isn't easy. But here's what I have so far. The VPN software a chinese dissident would need, has to be disguised as something innocuous. I'm thinking a boring "shareware-esque" network game. There would be a legit version, and one that stegonographically hides data in the game packets. The problem with this approach, is that there are few games that would be adequate for it.
Chess isn't all that appropriate. There are relatively few moves, and more so, there are even less moves that make any kind of sense. So if you hide bits in there, it's going to have to be in some metadata somewhere, and I don't think that's all that safe.
Go has more potential, but not much. What else is left? I'm looking for a non-traditional game, maybe something tetris like, I suppose. Even so, how many bits can be squeezed through such a connection? At best, this chinese dissident is going to be lucky to get a pop3 account through the thing, hardly the 1st class network connection I had hoped for.
Non-game connections all look contrived. I can't hide it in a grainy 160x120 webcam feed, without someone noticing. Audio has the same implications. Random looking bits simply aren't easy to hide in ways that don't look suspicious... anyone have any suggestions?
How will they know what's american, what is not? It's basically a peering arrangement, among 100s of people who don't know who each other are.
Besides, no one is going to want to peer with someone who censors arbitrary things. If they do, they fision off, and there are 2 metanets.
The 3 big bad things that all agree to censor so far are:
#1 Terrorist communication. Saying you think the WTC should have been destroyed doesn't meet this criteria, saying "Achmed, destroy target A!" does.
#2 Spam. No description needed.
#3 Kiddy porn. Some peope draw the line here differently. Traci Lords in a movie at age 17 isn't the same thing as someone molesting a 3 yr old, in my opinion.
Even so, it's not censorship, but me not wanting to peer with people who allow that. Just as if I had chose not to publish their manifesto in my newspaper, I'm not censoring here either. And as I perfect the idea of what a metanet is, they're allowed to do what I do, and can learn from my experience (to a degree).
But jackboot thugs saying "you can't criticize Mr. Bush on your metanet"... that kind of censorship simply isn't possible. Even people worrying about lawsuits isn't a concern. So just what kind of censorship is it again that I am creating?
I wish I could get as many people to try this as have tried freenet. My idea works... if only there were people there.
Do not make the mistake of believing that all systems offering freedom and anonymity have this problem.
Try Metanet. As a true peer, not only do you decide how to use the hardware that you donate to the cause, but anything truly reprehensible like kiddy porn can be null routed quickly.
Then try out my scheme. Anonymous IPv4 network, and you only store what you want on it. Perhaps an email server with a vanity domain name, or whatever.
None of this bullshit bbs-style "let's send files around". It's 2004, not 1982.
None of the "is there kiddy porn on my machine?". IPv4, works just as most would expect.
As for pedophiles and terrorists... they're still going to be a problem. We don't intend to ignore them though... their real-life identity may be hidden, but that doesn't mean a 10.x.x.x IP address isn't there to see. Most router admins take that sort of thing seriously, and they would lose their invitation quickly (and I wouldn't be ashamed if the one that knew their internet IP turned them in). Those router admins who don't take that behavior seriously, will end up quickly de-routed.
I still have 5 slots open for router admins, for anyone not residing in the USA. Contact me.
It can do ethernet bridging. So just about anything, is the answer to your question.
I emailed the author a few months back, begging for SOCKS5 support. He said sorry, I have no plans for it. Politely. But damned if the latest release doesn't support socks. I'm nominating him for networking godhood.
And I think for practical purposes, it's as secure as anything out there. Certainly easier to use than freeswan...
Granted, but do you advocate writing PC applications directly for Win32 in assembly language rather than for some portable toolkit such as wxWindows, GTKmm, Qt, etc? Or do you approach this argument from the perspective of one developing video game engines for handheld devices, where every cycle does in fact count?
There are those of us that wish Windows coders (both those writing apps, and those Redmondites who write Windows itself) were so anal that they considered every cycle "to count".
Because they sure as hell aren't making up for the slowness by trading off against small build sizes....
Stefan Pettersson, technical manager for IBM's Lotus division in Sweden, said that there will be a Java client of Lotus Notes some time during the second half of 2004. This means that the first "native" Notes client to run under Linux will soon be available.
How exactly is that "native? I'm sorry, but a java version is only native to that weird Sun java cpu that never made it out of production... it's nothing more than emulation for a machine that doesn't actually exist.
Better question:
Which looks more like a narn from Babylon 5?
Someone needs to photoshop a picture of G'Kerry for us...
Windows for users (single route to meta) is acceptable. The routers are somewhat safer. If you're smart enough to see this, why not join up, and be one less vulnerable meta user, and throw a monkey wrench in the plans of those agencies?
Yes, more than a proposal.
Quake3? Lag isn't too horrible for the 2-4 hop distances that we can currently manage (anywhere from 90ms on up to 210ms) but even that is pushing it for twitch games.
Everything else is very useful. And our bandwidth is pretty nifty for a volunteer effort.
I haven't fixed the sig because I'm a lazy slob. Sorry about that.
In all seriousness, it's anti-business. Can't accept money for the most part, without revealing identities.
Besides, I get value out of it even if I get no money. Just having a non-shitty internet is worth the trouble. I couldn't buy that for all the money in the world... but I can get it by investing some spare time. Seems like a bargain.
You had me right up until the Microsoft thing. It just so happens that everything they do is a sinister plot to rule the world. The rest is quite debatable though.
Sounds like a good idea. Want an invitation?
I have a better idea. Let's build such a network, but with the IPv4(/IPv6) we all know and love.
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Anyone and everyone is welcome, and you can actually ping people.
And everything a kid could reasonably want would be included in this .kids domain?
.kids TLD (if the only one they're allowed to use) is the same thing as restricting them from the internet entirely. At that point, you might as well talk about creating a seperate K-12 internet strictly for school use.. while not qualitatively different from a .kids TLD, it at least is a bit more clear and honest what is happening.
Hardly, dotcom sits would dwarf that TLD 10,000 to 1. So the kid still has to beg to get access to the site he needs to be able to do a essay. No help there. A
No matter what we do, it will only be worse. As a US citizen, I can say with some manner of expertise that my congressmen will find a way to fuck it up royally. Remember, these are the guys that think a "dot porn" and a "dot kids" TLD will actually fix anything. Even if it's managed by some federal bureau or dept (FCC?), they kowtow to congress and corps.
And don't even get me started on the UN.
I'm personally writing off the internet, and I don't have any expectations. If DNS dies completely, fine. I don't expect the web to be anything other than a stinky pile of feces, which it mostly is (80%), and definitely not email (110% smelly dung there).
Hope if you like, and prayer can't hurt. But stop lying to yourself that we can fix it. If you really want to be proactive, help me build a new internet. If my scheme seems stupid, then do freenet, or whatever. The internet is ours no longer.
So shoot me for being slow to the draw. Besides at least one idiot wasted a mod point on me. ;)
No one has mentioned RealDoll yet?
Proper french too... none of this "le weekend" american cultural perversion.
What if the dog likes it?
Not really. It's divided into "slots", and your cable modem can only talk when its turn comes up. Cable modems just recieving all the initialization stuff fight over a few open slots, but since most don't initialize at the same time anyway, it's rarely a problem.
Bandwidth is still limited, but it's something ungodly on my HFC networks. Enough that he could easily do 10mps to that local neighbor, and not really bother anyone.
I have an Indy, R5000. Also the DECstation 5000/120. I'm no stranger to MIPS.
As for the N64, I think it just makes the cutoff for ram in linux (isn't it 2 or 4 megs?). HD? Why not build an interface... the Dreamcast guys did that.
Would be an interesting challenge.
You people and your new fancy hardware make me sick.
I want linux on my N64, full of good MIPS linux flavor, without the Xbox aftertaste.