"What happens when ads are 3 seconds? 1/3 of a second? "
ever watch a sports broadcast? Often while the refs are debating a call or the game has stopped for a second and a short little mini-ad pops up (probably about 3-5 sec long)
"will it be possible for me to kill all of them slowly because they can't pay attention long enough!"
Phillip Morris;)
You did kind of hit on part of what I was trying to say (but failed miserably), as the post above you stated people have always been trying to sell us something and always will be.
"It is a lot easier to be funny, thoughtful, or odd for 30 seconds than for 22 minutes."
While this is true to a certain extent whuch of it also has to do with the public's almost non-existant attention span. I heard a documentery recently that stated that the thirty second commercial was in fact on the way out (so far no luck). That the trend is in fact moving towards 15s and 1 minute spots. The 1 min spots have to achieve the challenge of grabbing your attention and holding it they may in fact have some good writting. However the other trend, the 15 sec, is due to the fact that the public's attention span can no longer be held for the full thirty seconds.
So have we reached the point where we publicly proclaim that we now enjoy being told what to do and what to think by people whom we know only want our money. Are we really that far gone and are our attention spans that short or is it merely that the greatest writers of our generation are writting little ditties and thirty second spots for Nike that are immessurably superior to story over the length of 22 minutes that exists.
I'm not contesting any of the facts you have stated here, I've done the physics myself in the past. What I was saying basically consists of three points.
1. Orbits exist other than GEO.
2. These orbits like others have in the past may deteriorate due to other factors or even just due to the fact that their orbit was never perfectly stable to begin with.
3. My belief that due to the fact that GEO satellites are in a closer orbit(this on my part is an unfounded assumption, any input?) they will be at a lower vertical velocity and a higher horizontal verocity when they "hit" the atmosphere making them more likely to break up.
I haven't done the math in a while so some of my reasoning may be flawed.
Like "Everything in orbit not affected by atmospheric drag". Meaning: Pretty much damn near everything in orbit.
I'm not sure to the degree that it would be an issue but there is still atmosphere out there, it's just very thin. Its efects may be negligable but it may also have a slow clumulative effect that could cause deterioration. Your also still assuming a perfect orbit, any change in trajectory (could solar wind even cause an effect over a long enough period?) could cause in to fall out of orbit.
I believe you misunderstood my quote, along with some of the underlying physics. A stable orbit has nothing to do with the rotation of the earth but with the height of the object from the earth. There is nothing special about GEO other than it happens to match the earths rotation. Stuff in GEO is just as likely to fall back to earth as everything else when its orbit deteriorates to a point where it will do so (nothing is in a perfect obrit so nothing will stay there indefinatly), if I recall correctly even the moon's orbit is SLOWLY decaying, although don't worry, I don't think it's coming down for millions+ years....
say...
isn't that a full moon tonight...
The the senators will still work until they are 75. This means that they will represent a view of the country that's spread over several years, even decades, bringing up a defence against governments that were elected due to a short trend(?) in the public opinion. This could help in a situation where a knee jerk reaction to the public caused them to elect a government that a few months down the road nobody liked, the senate would be largely unaffected by this. The senators will also likely not be as devoted to one party as a campaign contained within the constituency could mean that parties would for once by LESS important than the candidate. Also since they have a mandate by their constituency they would feel more confident in using their power. It may not be perfect but it's better than a figure head institution appointed by the Prime Minister.
Actually it may not by as great a risk as you suppose. Most of the other 7000 objects are small debris light enough to easily burn up. Also I suspect this satellite wasn't in a geosynchronous orbit but was in a higher orbit (I could be wrong). This would mean that when it hit the atmosphere it would be travelling both at a slower horizontal velocity and a higher vertical velocity meaning that there would be less opportunity for it to burn up. The vast majority of satellites up there are communications satellites that are in geosynchronous orbit and shouldn't pose this problem.
While this is obviously flamebait just to make sure you do realize that M$ would WANT the public to know about their proposed "settlement" to "help" the children. I won't go into the various problems of the settlement here as it has already been discussed to death.
"Burton also filed motions to dismiss based on arguments that the law doesn't apply to a foreign company doing business solely on the Internet"
The ?we didn?t violate Russian law? argument is probably useless because they don't care about Russian Law( only US). They did however make the but we're not in the US argument.
Actually the senate in Canada functions more as a spell checker than anything else. I can only vaugly recall one instance where the senate has actually tried to use it's power, and then Cretien just appointed a few new ones to get the bill pushed through. The fact that it's appointed by the P.M. also means that the senators are loyal to that party and people are represented by a person/party that doesn't represent their views. In it's present state the senate does nothing, that is the reason behind the push for the Triple-E Senate (elected, equal and effective).
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It's already here! They just haven't started producing it yet because they haven't yet perfected the formula that Scotty gave them! Cm'on haven't you seen Star Trek: The Voyage Home!
Step 1. Disconnect the phone line, ethernet cable or whatever other device you use to connect to the internet.
Step 2. Drag all documents that you consider a risk to exposure to the recycling bin, recycle them, then use a disk utility to cover up all traces.
Step 3. Delete IE, MS Office, Outlook Express, and the Windows operating system from your computer.
Step 4. Take a large can of gasoline, a sledgehammer, and a match, and tape a photo of Bill Gates to the side of your machine.
Step 5. Follow your instincts.
I'm not sure of the situation in the U.S. but in Canada the tuition rates are very high. They are in essence working for "free" as the $8.75/hr is probably just around the amount needed to get them through the semester, it would be pointless to work for too low a wage, even if you are learning, that wouldn't allow you to continue school.
I guess we can all see now what happens when a well respected News site as Slashdot posts a story from that rumour driven site with redundant poorly worded stories that have bad grammer and grossly misrepresent the facts and on top of it is run by a group of greeks that will jump on anything that smells even remotely of Linux or the downfall of Microsoft or of just some lame techi-toy that every nerd wants to have!
I'm also attending the UofA and I have to agree that it is very easy to gain admission. The fact is that anyone who has any sort of decent marks in high school has the intelligence to be able to complete some sort of program if they apply themselves at all. I'm sure 90% of "smart" people are just ordinary people who have the initiative to apply themselves. This was probably the intent of the test in the first place, to seperate the the people who have the motivation to learn and to become good students and eventually become succesful professionals, from the otherwise intelligent people who just don't care.
The Duron is designed to be a lower end chip which means that it's intended for a lower-end computing market that may not be quite as techno-savy as your higher end purchasers and would interpret the different benchmarching system as a way to mislead consumers (as opposed to the mHz system which to them would translate directly to speed). It's just a matter of catering to the market.
The fact is that more and more the US is losing the manufacturing jobs that for more than a century have been it's backbone causing it to become the economic superpower it is. Now that many of these jobs are leaving and they must now on white collar jobs to support themselves, by far the most lucrative of these are the computer industry. Wether it is fair or not the fact is that the US is trying to scrap up more cash in a struggling economy by pushing laws that it is really only in the US's interest to enforce.
While it sounds good in theory and would certainly cause some more corporate compliance unfortunatly it would not work. The problem is that with any large corporation that appears to have made even the slightest misdeed fear of having their assets "executed" would cause investors to flock away in droves, along with causing a preemptive execution this would also probably lead to a recession as the stock markets recoil possibly even doing even more harm than good as people lose their jobs.
While I agree with your point of view I do not believe you chose valid examples.
Then why doesn't Linux (*BSD, etc) own 95% of the desktop market?
This is dealing with operating systems and right now the biggest obstacle to any operating system is the Windows monopoly which is not dependent on licensees, price, or quality. In reality I do not believe that there is really a valid example that can be taken from the computer industry that can be applied to this scenario considering failed products that could still be popular. The only 2 high profile GPL projects are Linux and Mozzila (it's competitor is also free), even with Eudora and mutt Eudora has a sponsored mode (also I have never heard of mutt so for me there would be a low possibility of a change) so no parallel can arise to this situation. Nevertheless as to the GPLed code hurting the proprietary company in a situation where the code is competitive I do not see it having a significant impact. While I have no figures I assume that the majority of software sales still occur is stores where GPL software would be unavailable, I doubt much of the market actually frequents websites where this software would be available. Also most demand for a product is due to advertising which OS projects will not have.
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The problem with the corporate structure in our culture is the fact that it works on stocks. As a result the primary concern of the board of directors is the stock price and in any decision the deciding factor in the economic repercussions. Corporations who donate millions to charities don't do it because they are nice, they do it because it helps their image. For all we know the brains behind McDonald's children's charities are just as nice as good or bad as the ones who orchestrate Shell's military dictatorship in Nigeria or Bill Gate's and Microsoft's monopolies(we all know McDonalds is evil anyways, the "Little McDonalds in every one" is most likely stuck on the walls of the aorta). Corporations don't have emotions and they experience little characteristics of individual people (kinda like the Borg). The actions taken by the board of directions for large corporations run under the belief that profit is the primary concern and many Economists would argue that the stock price is their only responsibility. The only real ways to ensure corporations are behaving is to vote with your wallet and use litigation, hopefully other corporations will look at the negative economic results and say "hmm... maybe it would be a good idea to clean up those oil spills out back, look how much it cost them" or "hey maybe we should issue a recall on that vehicle, it looks like the litigation may cost more after all"(GM) and decide that their "shady" practices justify too high a risk if exposed and change their ways.
If your boss asks you to sweep a toxic chemical into the drain and you do it... you're just as guilty.
Perhaps you are right, however think of that worker, do they fully understand the repercussions of their actions,and what of their families and those of their co-workers who will suffer when they lose their jobs. Would you then go after the boss? The boss is merely follow orders of their own and possibly feel a great deal of loyalty to their company and to the workers beneath them and don't want them to lose their jobs. Perhaps you would go after the board of directors? Keep in mind that by the standards that have been welded into their minds by the corporate world they were doing exactly as they should have. Of course none of these people are truly innocent and all share a small part of the guilt yet I find it hard to believe that all the hundreds of workers, none of whom blew a whistle, are all evil people. Mob phycology is prevalent throughout our society and every one is a particapent in one way or another, while doing it just because every one else is is no excuse but it doesn't make you the spawn of satan either.
Sorry for the rant.)
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"What happens when ads are 3 seconds? 1/3 of a second? "
ever watch a sports broadcast? Often while the refs are debating a call or the game has stopped for a second and a short little mini-ad pops up (probably about 3-5 sec long)
"will it be possible for me to kill all of them slowly because they can't pay attention long enough!"
Phillip Morris;)
You did kind of hit on part of what I was trying to say (but failed miserably), as the post above you stated people have always been trying to sell us something and always will be.
"It is a lot easier to be funny, thoughtful, or odd for 30 seconds than for 22 minutes."
While this is true to a certain extent whuch of it also has to do with the public's almost non-existant attention span. I heard a documentery recently that stated that the thirty second commercial was in fact on the way out (so far no luck). That the trend is in fact moving towards 15s and 1 minute spots. The 1 min spots have to achieve the challenge of grabbing your attention and holding it they may in fact have some good writting. However the other trend, the 15 sec, is due to the fact that the public's attention span can no longer be held for the full thirty seconds.
So have we reached the point where we publicly proclaim that we now enjoy being told what to do and what to think by people whom we know only want our money. Are we really that far gone and are our attention spans that short or is it merely that the greatest writers of our generation are writting little ditties and thirty second spots for Nike that are immessurably superior to story over the length of 22 minutes that exists.
I'm not contesting any of the facts you have stated here, I've done the physics myself in the past. What I was saying basically consists of three points.
1. Orbits exist other than GEO.
2. These orbits like others have in the past may deteriorate due to other factors or even just due to the fact that their orbit was never perfectly stable to begin with.
3. My belief that due to the fact that GEO satellites are in a closer orbit(this on my part is an unfounded assumption, any input?) they will be at a lower vertical velocity and a higher horizontal verocity when they "hit" the atmosphere making them more likely to break up.
I haven't done the math in a while so some of my reasoning may be flawed.
Like "Everything in orbit not affected by atmospheric drag". Meaning: Pretty much damn near everything in orbit.
I'm not sure to the degree that it would be an issue but there is still atmosphere out there, it's just very thin. Its efects may be negligable but it may also have a slow clumulative effect that could cause deterioration. Your also still assuming a perfect orbit, any change in trajectory (could solar wind even cause an effect over a long enough period?) could cause in to fall out of orbit.
I believe you misunderstood my quote, along with some of the underlying physics. A stable orbit has nothing to do with the rotation of the earth but with the height of the object from the earth. There is nothing special about GEO other than it happens to match the earths rotation. Stuff in GEO is just as likely to fall back to earth as everything else when its orbit deteriorates to a point where it will do so (nothing is in a perfect obrit so nothing will stay there indefinatly), if I recall correctly even the moon's orbit is SLOWLY decaying, although don't worry, I don't think it's coming down for millions+ years....
say...
isn't that a full moon tonight...
The the senators will still work until they are 75. This means that they will represent a view of the country that's spread over several years, even decades, bringing up a defence against governments that were elected due to a short trend(?) in the public opinion. This could help in a situation where a knee jerk reaction to the public caused them to elect a government that a few months down the road nobody liked, the senate would be largely unaffected by this. The senators will also likely not be as devoted to one party as a campaign contained within the constituency could mean that parties would for once by LESS important than the candidate. Also since they have a mandate by their constituency they would feel more confident in using their power. It may not be perfect but it's better than a figure head institution appointed by the Prime Minister.
Actually it may not by as great a risk as you suppose. Most of the other 7000 objects are small debris light enough to easily burn up. Also I suspect this satellite wasn't in a geosynchronous orbit but was in a higher orbit (I could be wrong). This would mean that when it hit the atmosphere it would be travelling both at a slower horizontal velocity and a higher vertical velocity meaning that there would be less opportunity for it to burn up. The vast majority of satellites up there are communications satellites that are in geosynchronous orbit and shouldn't pose this problem.
While this is obviously flamebait just to make sure you do realize that M$ would WANT the public to know about their proposed "settlement" to "help" the children. I won't go into the various problems of the settlement here as it has already been discussed to death.
"Burton also filed motions to dismiss based on arguments that the law doesn't apply to a foreign company doing business solely on the Internet"
The ?we didn?t violate Russian law? argument is probably useless because they don't care about Russian Law( only US). They did however make the but we're not in the US argument.
Actually the senate in Canada functions more as a spell checker than anything else. I can only vaugly recall one instance where the senate has actually tried to use it's power, and then Cretien just appointed a few new ones to get the bill pushed through. The fact that it's appointed by the P.M. also means that the senators are loyal to that party and people are represented by a person/party that doesn't represent their views. In it's present state the senate does nothing, that is the reason behind the push for the Triple-E Senate (elected, equal and effective).
It's already here! They just haven't started producing it yet because they haven't yet perfected the formula that Scotty gave them! Cm'on haven't you seen Star Trek: The Voyage Home!
Step 1. Disconnect the phone line, ethernet cable or whatever other device you use to connect to the internet.
Step 2. Drag all documents that you consider a risk to exposure to the recycling bin, recycle them, then use a disk utility to cover up all traces.
Step 3. Delete IE, MS Office, Outlook Express, and the Windows operating system from your computer.
Step 4. Take a large can of gasoline, a sledgehammer, and a match, and tape a photo of Bill Gates to the side of your machine.
Step 5. Follow your instincts.
I'm not sure of the situation in the U.S. but in Canada the tuition rates are very high. They are in essence working for "free" as the $8.75/hr is probably just around the amount needed to get them through the semester, it would be pointless to work for too low a wage, even if you are learning, that wouldn't allow you to continue school.
HeHeHe, that's what you get run running on open source OS... wait a second... isn't this MSN.org...
Uh-Oh.....
"Bandwidth Limit Exceeded
The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to the site owner reaching his/her bandwidth limit. Please try again later."
That's just plain TERRIFYING!!!
Well if anyone can overcome the /. effect it has to be Indy!!
Actually the title is "Indiana Jones and the search for the holy Medic Alert Bracelet"
I guess we can all see now what happens when a well respected News site as Slashdot posts a story from that rumour driven site with redundant poorly worded stories that have bad grammer and grossly misrepresent the facts and on top of it is run by a group of greeks that will jump on anything that smells even remotely of Linux or the downfall of Microsoft or of just some lame techi-toy that every nerd wants to have!
I'm also attending the UofA and I have to agree that it is very easy to gain admission. The fact is that anyone who has any sort of decent marks in high school has the intelligence to be able to complete some sort of program if they apply themselves at all. I'm sure 90% of "smart" people are just ordinary people who have the initiative to apply themselves. This was probably the intent of the test in the first place, to seperate the the people who have the motivation to learn and to become good students and eventually become succesful professionals, from the otherwise intelligent people who just don't care.
The Duron is designed to be a lower end chip which means that it's intended for a lower-end computing market that may not be quite as techno-savy as your higher end purchasers and would interpret the different benchmarching system as a way to mislead consumers (as opposed to the mHz system which to them would translate directly to speed). It's just a matter of catering to the market.
The fact is that more and more the US is losing the manufacturing jobs that for more than a century have been it's backbone causing it to become the economic superpower it is. Now that many of these jobs are leaving and they must now on white collar jobs to support themselves, by far the most lucrative of these are the computer industry. Wether it is fair or not the fact is that the US is trying to scrap up more cash in a struggling economy by pushing laws that it is really only in the US's interest to enforce.
While it sounds good in theory and would certainly cause some more corporate compliance unfortunatly it would not work. The problem is that with any large corporation that appears to have made even the slightest misdeed fear of having their assets "executed" would cause investors to flock away in droves, along with causing a preemptive execution this would also probably lead to a recession as the stock markets recoil possibly even doing even more harm than good as people lose their jobs.
While I agree with your point of view I do not believe you chose valid examples.
Then why doesn't Linux (*BSD, etc) own 95% of the desktop market?
This is dealing with operating systems and right now the biggest obstacle to any operating system is the Windows monopoly which is not dependent on licensees, price, or quality. In reality I do not believe that there is really a valid example that can be taken from the computer industry that can be applied to this scenario considering failed products that could still be popular. The only 2 high profile GPL projects are Linux and Mozzila (it's competitor is also free), even with Eudora and mutt Eudora has a sponsored mode (also I have never heard of mutt so for me there would be a low possibility of a change) so no parallel can arise to this situation. Nevertheless as to the GPLed code hurting the proprietary company in a situation where the code is competitive I do not see it having a significant impact. While I have no figures I assume that the majority of software sales still occur is stores where GPL software would be unavailable, I doubt much of the market actually frequents websites where this software would be available. Also most demand for a product is due to advertising which OS projects will not have.
The problem with the corporate structure in our culture is the fact that it works on stocks. As a result the primary concern of the board of directors is the stock price and in any decision the deciding factor in the economic repercussions. Corporations who donate millions to charities don't do it because they are nice, they do it because it helps their image. For all we know the brains behind McDonald's children's charities are just as nice as good or bad as the ones who orchestrate Shell's military dictatorship in Nigeria or Bill Gate's and Microsoft's monopolies(we all know McDonalds is evil anyways, the "Little McDonalds in every one" is most likely stuck on the walls of the aorta). Corporations don't have emotions and they experience little characteristics of individual people (kinda like the Borg). The actions taken by the board of directions for large corporations run under the belief that profit is the primary concern and many Economists would argue that the stock price is their only responsibility. The only real ways to ensure corporations are behaving is to vote with your wallet and use litigation, hopefully other corporations will look at the negative economic results and say "hmm... maybe it would be a good idea to clean up those oil spills out back, look how much it cost them" or "hey maybe we should issue a recall on that vehicle, it looks like the litigation may cost more after all"(GM) and decide that their "shady" practices justify too high a risk if exposed and change their ways.
If your boss asks you to sweep a toxic chemical into the drain and you do it... you're just as guilty.
Perhaps you are right, however think of that worker, do they fully understand the repercussions of their actions ,and what of their families and those of their co-workers who will suffer when they lose their jobs. Would you then go after the boss? The boss is merely follow orders of their own and possibly feel a great deal of loyalty to their company and to the workers beneath them and don't want them to lose their jobs. Perhaps you would go after the board of directors? Keep in mind that by the standards that have been welded into their minds by the corporate world they were doing exactly as they should have. Of course none of these people are truly innocent and all share a small part of the guilt yet I find it hard to believe that all the hundreds of workers, none of whom blew a whistle, are all evil people. Mob phycology is prevalent throughout our society and every one is a particapent in one way or another, while doing it just because every one else is is no excuse but it doesn't make you the spawn of satan either.
Sorry for the rant.)