While most casual users won't be bothered by this, the more tech savvy or people in the audio visual fields will be concerned.
While I fully understand the reasoning behind DRM, and while I may even agree with the principle (protecting your work), draconian DRM will send people the other way. It is now 2009. Generations are getting more and more tech savvy and educated. The internet is a huge social network. To not be able to record something and manipulate as you want can send people the other way.
So this is where Linux needs to step up. Microsoft is shooting themselves in the foot and Linux has the ability to take a big step forward. If you can record on Linux with no interference and you could be able to watch DVD with no interference on Linux on an out-of-box install, Linux could easily take over. Now we need the big Linux distros (Suse (shut up novell haters), Red Hat, Ubuntu, etc) to get on the software market to distribute versions for Linux. I don't mean it has to be open source, I mean it has to run on Linux. Natively. Without going through this config and that config to change things just to get it to run. Linux is on the right track, and with more and more being handed to it by Microsoft, it needs to get on the ball and make changes. Distros need to agree on where they put config files, on all distros. There would be nothing wrong with one main (but others available) package managers and packaging style. And there are other examples. And all this could be easily obtained.
Are you getting Star Trek: The Next Generation and Stargate SG-1 mixed up?
The trials were by Q in the first and last episodes. de Lancie wasn't in SG1 that much...
the title to this story on the front page is not the same title as the actual slasharticle when you click on the Read More?
I'm not sure what title fits the story right.
You don't think six versions of the current version are enough? And who's going to explain to the average user what the differences are and why are they better? And who's going to support these?
me how Internet Explorer is such a big deal for the EU. IE is free. Microsoft is bundling their browser with their OS. KDE bundles Konqueror. Gnome has Epiphany. There are on binaries for Windows for either of them. Is that bad? Everyone has a choice to download the equally free Firefox for any OS. If you want to go after Microsoft, then go after them for the things that are truly evil. The monopolization. The insane licensing prices. The unfixed bugs. The embrace, extend and extinguish. And the countless other things. Forcing vendors to bundle other browsers won't do anything. Do you really think Microsoft fears this?
Well look at the comments above. Some people above mentioned they would like to use it in class w/ a pen input device. But then on the 4GB drive for the web cache and the OS, you'll quickly run out of room. Portable DVD and music players don't tout they run an entire operating system. Where did I say anything about web design in my comment? I hate webmail. I use it only when I have to. I like using email clients. The device is a cool device. But if some the ideas mentioned above were implemented, it would be great. And nowhere did I mention that no one would buy it. I mentioned I wouldn't. Because I wanted more usability. So I don't understand why you're attacking my comment? I didn't attack the device or anything. So you're just an ass.
not going to pay $300 for a device just to surf the web. But it's a cool piece of equipment. I see it's running a full installation of Ubuntu. That's cool. I'd like to be able to open an ssh client and use the on-screen keyboard and maybe a notepad of some sort. It doesn't have to be a full blown computer, but something other than just surfing the web should be included. Imagine the business use of this type of open source hardware and software device. Add some kind of notepad software you can write notes quick and immediately send it out to another device/computer. I can't see many people just buying it for a web browser when notebooks are so readily available that can use email client software, not just web mail. And have other usable apps. Remember the web devices that were around in the past? There used to a white one that Staples sold, I don't remember the name, but they didn't hit off to well.
Well. Most of thew webmail packages I looked at had to be adjusted to play with where my distro put the www files. I should have been more clear. I meant packaged as a binary not a tar ball. Webmail programs don't need to be compiled.
I agree with you. If we want Linux adoption, then companies need to make drivers that support Linux. And Linux itself needs to make things more standard. Suse uses/srv/ for http and ftp. RH uses/var other distros use/opt. It makes installing some things difficult. Having to edit config scripts just to get a simple webmail program installed is not going to bring anyone to the world of Linux. Granted programs that you compile yourself will find the right places to put them and packages for your (you generalization) distro work, but for those programs that aren't packaged and don't need compiling it's a pain.
The argument for OSS replacement of this or that program is starting to be less and less. There's tons of programs out there now that can replace proprietary programs.
The EULA was for the proprietary software that used to be included. Like Adobe Reader and the binary drivers for video cards. Now you have to add the repositories for those after the install. They're not included w/ the DVD any more. How did you get marked insightful?
"popular" apps and peripherals in the senior citizen crowd (think of, web-browsing, photo viewing, photo-printing, web-cams etc.) are much more readily available for windows than for linux.
Oh. My apologies. I did provide a link but it was without the quotes. OnioOnio corrected me and I re-preformed the search, found it interesting, but never bothered posting again.
Again, my apologies if I took your reply to me wrong.
Have a good holiday.
I'm sorry. Are you calling me lazy? I replied to him with a google search, and he corrected me that I should use the quote marks. Which it finally clicked in my mind that searching like that brought up his exact quote. You're little fancy link brought up the story but didn't bring up the actual summary of the result which mentions his question "google are you watching?" which is more interesting. Hit the "Google Search" button instead of the "I'm Feeling Lucky" button.
See this comment.
Slashdot Mirror
I suspect many of the people "in the audio visual fields" will have a similar problem when considering Linux.
I'm not sure about this. A few big movies ( Shrek 3, The Day The World Stood Still) have been using linux for their visual effects and there is a whole distro geared towards this. I understand these are big things and big companies, but still, it's major.
That's a good point. I never thought of it that way.
While most casual users won't be bothered by this, the more tech savvy or people in the audio visual fields will be concerned.
While I fully understand the reasoning behind DRM, and while I may even agree with the principle (protecting your work), draconian DRM will send people the other way. It is now 2009. Generations are getting more and more tech savvy and educated. The internet is a huge social network. To not be able to record something and manipulate as you want can send people the other way.
So this is where Linux needs to step up. Microsoft is shooting themselves in the foot and Linux has the ability to take a big step forward. If you can record on Linux with no interference and you could be able to watch DVD with no interference on Linux on an out-of-box install, Linux could easily take over. Now we need the big Linux distros (Suse (shut up novell haters), Red Hat, Ubuntu, etc) to get on the software market to distribute versions for Linux. I don't mean it has to be open source, I mean it has to run on Linux. Natively. Without going through this config and that config to change things just to get it to run. Linux is on the right track, and with more and more being handed to it by Microsoft, it needs to get on the ball and make changes. Distros need to agree on where they put config files, on all distros. There would be nothing wrong with one main (but others available) package managers and packaging style. And there are other examples. And all this could be easily obtained.
Do you honestly think they will learn from this mistake for Windows 8? They didn't learn much from Vista's mistakes.
Can't you download Firefox on another machine first and transfer it by removable media?
You expect a person getting their first computer to know how to do this?
That's not Kdawson the editor.
Did you read yesterdays comics in the paper?
Are you getting Star Trek: The Next Generation and Stargate SG-1 mixed up? The trials were by Q in the first and last episodes. de Lancie wasn't in SG1 that much...
the title to this story on the front page is not the same title as the actual slasharticle when you click on the Read More? I'm not sure what title fits the story right.
I actually searched for that before I posted that to make sure I wasn't blowing smoke, but I missed that. Thanks for the information.
You don't think six versions of the current version are enough? And who's going to explain to the average user what the differences are and why are they better? And who's going to support these?
me how Internet Explorer is such a big deal for the EU. IE is free. Microsoft is bundling their browser with their OS. KDE bundles Konqueror. Gnome has Epiphany. There are on binaries for Windows for either of them. Is that bad? Everyone has a choice to download the equally free Firefox for any OS. If you want to go after Microsoft, then go after them for the things that are truly evil. The monopolization. The insane licensing prices. The unfixed bugs. The embrace, extend and extinguish. And the countless other things. Forcing vendors to bundle other browsers won't do anything. Do you really think Microsoft fears this?
There only in the first stage. And the also stated in the article it would be closer to $300
doh! How'd I pull that one off?
web base ssh has it's purpose I suppose. But it has some issues.
no. not an e-mail client. I'm talking about like a text message. And have it come up on the other device/computer.
I want to save the document locally or on my local network.
Well look at the comments above. Some people above mentioned they would like to use it in class w/ a pen input device. But then on the 4GB drive for the web cache and the OS, you'll quickly run out of room. Portable DVD and music players don't tout they run an entire operating system. Where did I say anything about web design in my comment? I hate webmail. I use it only when I have to. I like using email clients. The device is a cool device. But if some the ideas mentioned above were implemented, it would be great. And nowhere did I mention that no one would buy it. I mentioned I wouldn't. Because I wanted more usability. So I don't understand why you're attacking my comment? I didn't attack the device or anything. So you're just an ass.
not going to pay $300 for a device just to surf the web. But it's a cool piece of equipment. I see it's running a full installation of Ubuntu. That's cool. I'd like to be able to open an ssh client and use the on-screen keyboard and maybe a notepad of some sort. It doesn't have to be a full blown computer, but something other than just surfing the web should be included. Imagine the business use of this type of open source hardware and software device. Add some kind of notepad software you can write notes quick and immediately send it out to another device/computer. I can't see many people just buying it for a web browser when notebooks are so readily available that can use email client software, not just web mail. And have other usable apps. Remember the web devices that were around in the past? There used to a white one that Staples sold, I don't remember the name, but they didn't hit off to well.
You may be joking....but wait.
Well. Most of thew webmail packages I looked at had to be adjusted to play with where my distro put the www files. I should have been more clear. I meant packaged as a binary not a tar ball. Webmail programs don't need to be compiled.
I agree with you. If we want Linux adoption, then companies need to make drivers that support Linux. And Linux itself needs to make things more standard. Suse uses /srv/ for http and ftp. RH uses /var other distros use /opt. It makes installing some things difficult. Having to edit config scripts just to get a simple webmail program installed is not going to bring anyone to the world of Linux. Granted programs that you compile yourself will find the right places to put them and packages for your (you generalization) distro work, but for those programs that aren't packaged and don't need compiling it's a pain.
The argument for OSS replacement of this or that program is starting to be less and less. There's tons of programs out there now that can replace proprietary programs.
The EULA was for the proprietary software that used to be included. Like Adobe Reader and the binary drivers for video cards. Now you have to add the repositories for those after the install. They're not included w/ the DVD any more. How did you get marked insightful?
"popular" apps and peripherals in the senior citizen crowd (think of, web-browsing, photo viewing, photo-printing, web-cams etc.) are much more readily available for windows than for linux.
FireFox
kview
PhotoPrint
icam
I'll give that the webcam is a little bit gray area. But maybe MORE SELECTION for windows, but I wouldn't say not readily available.
Oh. My apologies. I did provide a link but it was without the quotes. OnioOnio corrected me and I re-preformed the search, found it interesting, but never bothered posting again. Again, my apologies if I took your reply to me wrong. Have a good holiday.
I'm sorry. Are you calling me lazy? I replied to him with a google search, and he corrected me that I should use the quote marks. Which it finally clicked in my mind that searching like that brought up his exact quote. You're little fancy link brought up the story but didn't bring up the actual summary of the result which mentions his question "google are you watching?" which is more interesting. Hit the "Google Search" button instead of the "I'm Feeling Lucky" button. See this comment.
ohhhhhhhhhhh I'm sorry. That took a little to long for me to understand. Heh. Have a good holiday.