Give me back my old computer stuff. And this is what I mean: I'd really like to have the system before that.
The funny thing here is that the "hard-core techies" this guy is complaining about would say the same thing! Reference all the PDP-8 / Amiga / VMS / Commodore / Apple ][ nostalgia that we are regularly subjected to here on/. I rest my case.
...There was an amazing variety of work being done aboard Columbia. Spiders, flowers, cancer cells, ants, carpenter bees, fish embryos, silkworms and rats were all onboard.
Students from Fowler High School in Syracuse, New York, had worked for three years on an experiment to find out whether ants tunnel at a slower rate in space gravity.
Wow, I bet it took a lot of imagination to copy and paste that post from a September 11th thread.
I guess I can only answer one cliche'd/. post from a lowly AC with another/. cliche:
Plan for AC to look like a retarded ass! 1. Wait for Americans to die
2. Wait for other Americans to become upset about it.
3. Post inane comment attacking Americans because they don't know about some obscure, insignifant tragedy in a backwards, thirdworld country.
4. ???
5. AC == retarded piece of shit!
(PS - My apologies in advance to the mentally challenged community for insulting any of you by implying that this worthless AC worm is anywhere near your level of humanity).
Slashdot never fails to disapoint. Some "genius" decided to post this unoriginal joke. I for one am not going to give him the satisfaction of a direct reply. He's a spinless fucking idiot.
However, if one of my dim-witted co-workers or relatives (or even a complete stranger?) feels the need to tell this childish joke, I am going to unload a fuck-load of geek wrath upon them.
Yes, but it doesn't cost several million dollars to send seven guys out in their Lincoln Navigator for Big Macs and a carton of Marlboros.
In all seriousness, I see myself arguing with many dim-witted co-workers and relatives over the next few days about how there was "ALWAYS a risk of this happening and this will probably happen again no matter what we do and NO we shouldn't cut NASA's budget completely!!!!!"
i don't give a shit about the shuttle crew. More people die everyday because of things we can really prevent. This just was an accident.
Although this particular AC is a foul mouthed baffoon, it does make a good point. I'm sure the astronauts had now illusions about the dangers of being involved in these missions.
However, my take on this tradgedy is different. I wonder how many/.'ers would willingly become astronauts, even when faced with the extreme risks which - while existing all along - only now are so evident?
Ok, most/.'er are 'tards, so most of them would say "yes" without a seconds thought, but my point is this:
Just because there's been a tragedy doesn't mean that news concerning a war (which will be fought; if you think war is anything but inevitable, you're deluded) is irrelevant.
Well, I think it's fucking suspicious that a news organization that parrots everything the Bush administration says did not have anything on air about an administration Official saying that's its "highly unlikely that the accident is due to terrorism."
Instead it's more crap about Saddam. Ever hear of subliminal messages? Anyway, I know war is inevitable but my feeling (and apparently the feeling of every other news channel except FNC) is that for a few brief hours the looming war is what's irrelevant.
I wonder...can you take your mind off the fucking war for even an hour or two to mourn this tradgedy???
They said on CNN that the shuttle was actually traveling 6 times the speed of sound at 200,000 feet when it blew up. The context was that no surface to air stinger missle could have gotten them (so we'll probably hear that repeated a lot).
it would be a real shame to take that as a reason to accelerate the war processus.
Well I would advice you not to turn on Fox News Channel...right under the Shuttle coverage their ticker is running stuff about Iraq, Saddam and "coming war." Not very subtle if you ask me.
(By contrast, CNN's ticker has nothing but information about the shuttle)
One of our users had the toolbar installed because they somehow had their Internet Zone security settings on "Low." Xupiter found its way onto the PC and the rest is history.
Quite honestly, I can't understand why science and engineering majors are held to one standard for grades and academics versus humanities majors even in the same school.
It seems our intrepid/.'er is unfamiliar with the concept of the grading "Curve." This phenomenon, enountered universally in college science/engineering/math courses, allows students to recieve an "B" on their test even when acheiving only 20% correct scores on their tests.
Granted, the "curve" is still a Bell Curve and as such is not as skewed as inflation you find in the humanities. However, the conclusion that engineering students are necessarily competent - in light of the aforementioned "curve" - is one which arrives stillborn.
The same applies for the suggestion that Math/Science majors are involved in life/death situations later in life. If that's the case, then I think - based on the number of product defects and accidental deaths due to poor design each year - we have ample reason to raise their grading standards ten-fold!
My point is this: I wouldn't want to drive over a bridge designed by an engineer that got 15% on the final exam - but got an acceptable grade (B) because of a "Curve."
I never complain about moderations but this one takes the cake.
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Moderators, get off the crack pipe! Read the linked article. It is a fscking police blotter of bruised little old ladies, kids missing eyes and wounded dogs, all injured by hooligans shooting random people with their "potato bazooka." Yippee. It is not about a bunch of geeks happily running around popping off spuds at each other.
Yah well a lot of "non-anime fans" in their 20s have heard about Eva, but virtually ALL kids under 12 know about pokemon and yu-gi-oh, some probably more so than mickey rat (and I bet lots of those kids have no idea that the anime they are watching is from japan - or that it's called anime).
Besides, you can use HTTP to link diverse systems without using Java's funky protocols.
Ok why don't you be more specific and give us some examples.
And please try to make it in the form of "I was working on a project where the java code failed/performed slowly/took too long to complete" instead of your usual
"this procedural code block is prettier to look at than this ugly OOP code block."
If it is on the Internet, then why does it have to be *geographically* distributed? Just make one big-bass server room running things like Oracle somewhere in Denver. That way you don't have to duplicate similar configurations and setups all around the country (or world). (With off-site backups, of course).
Smells like a conspiracy to sell duplicate Sun-boxen to me.
Two words: LEGACY SYSTEMS
From your statement, I think we can only conclude that you have no Real World work experience.
What exactly is there in Java that allows one to build "complex applications"?
What is there in Java that DOESN'T allow one to build complex applications? Based on the thousands of commerical web sites now using server-side java, I think it is fair to argue there is more evidence for than against.
I look at their code and it appears to me like they don't know how to use a relational database...[yadda]
Ok, now you are confusing bad developers with the language that they are using? If you are a sucky programmer I doesn't matter if you are programming in xBase or Java, you will still suck. But that doesn't mean the language itself is the problem.
Show me some objective evidence that Java is superior, not brochure cliches.
How about some objective evidence (i.e. not from microsoft) that it is not? Meanwhile, Oracle, IBM and thousands of developers are throwing their weight behind Java.
They yanked some dynamic typing features from VB, for example, because they were not "Javish" enough.
Did you just imply that VB is somehow a better language than Java? Where to start...well, I'll let somebody else weigh in on that gem. Man, now I really can see where your rep as a troll came from.
Troll, poster, troll!
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I've found in my experience that Java is good when it's highly specialized and kept very small and simple (yes, Java is good for APPLETS!). For enterprise applications, it _sucks_.
Interesting observation...
Why don't you give us some specific examples to back up that sweeping statement?
My grandmother always said that she never voted "because then nobody could blame [her] for anything that our leaders did." Not a bad strategy if you ask me ^_^
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/. I rest my case.
Give me back my old computer stuff. And this is what I mean: I'd really like to have the system before that.
The funny thing here is that the "hard-core techies" this guy is complaining about would say the same thing! Reference all the PDP-8 / Amiga / VMS / Commodore / Apple ][ nostalgia that we are regularly subjected to here on
There was an ANT COLONY on the shuttle:
...There was an amazing variety of work being done aboard Columbia. Spiders, flowers, cancer cells, ants, carpenter bees, fish embryos, silkworms and rats were all onboard.
Students from Fowler High School in Syracuse, New York, had worked for three years on an experiment to find out whether ants tunnel at a slower rate in space gravity.
Wow, I bet it took a lot of imagination to copy and paste that post from a September 11th thread.
/. post from a lowly AC with another /. cliche:
I guess I can only answer one cliche'd
Plan for AC to look like a retarded ass!
1. Wait for Americans to die
2. Wait for other Americans to become upset about it.
3. Post inane comment attacking Americans because they don't know about some obscure, insignifant tragedy in a backwards, thirdworld country.
4. ???
5. AC == retarded piece of shit!
(PS - My apologies in advance to the mentally challenged community for insulting any of you by implying that this worthless AC worm is anywhere near your level of humanity).
I won't say who, because for some reason, at that point it is no longer information, but racist.
Since when is it racist to dislike the French???
I have been since I heard about the lost contact on the Weather Channel.
So FNC is the War News Channel?
Slashdot never fails to disapoint. Some "genius" decided to post this unoriginal joke. I for one am not going to give him the satisfaction of a direct reply. He's a spinless fucking idiot.
However, if one of my dim-witted co-workers or relatives (or even a complete stranger?) feels the need to tell this childish joke, I am going to unload a fuck-load of geek wrath upon them.
Yes, but it doesn't cost several million dollars to send seven guys out in their Lincoln Navigator for Big Macs and a carton of Marlboros.
In all seriousness, I see myself arguing with many dim-witted co-workers and relatives over the next few days about how there was "ALWAYS a risk of this happening and this will probably happen again no matter what we do and NO we shouldn't cut NASA's budget completely!!!!!"
I'm sure the astronauts had now illusions
D'OH - I meant "NO illusions"
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i don't give a shit about the shuttle crew. More people die everyday because of things we can really prevent. This just was an accident.
/.'ers would willingly become astronauts, even when faced with the extreme risks which - while existing all along - only now are so evident?
/.'er are 'tards, so most of them would say "yes" without a seconds thought, but my point is this:
Although this particular AC is a foul mouthed baffoon, it does make a good point. I'm sure the astronauts had now illusions about the dangers of being involved in these missions.
However, my take on this tradgedy is different. I wonder how many
Ok, most
These 7 astronauts are truly Heroes.
Just because there's been a tragedy doesn't mean that news concerning a war (which will be fought; if you think war is anything but inevitable, you're deluded) is irrelevant.
Well, I think it's fucking suspicious that a news organization that parrots everything the Bush administration says did not have anything on air about an administration Official saying that's its "highly unlikely that the accident is due to terrorism."
Instead it's more crap about Saddam. Ever hear of subliminal messages? Anyway, I know war is inevitable but my feeling (and apparently the feeling of every other news channel except FNC) is that for a few brief hours the looming war is what's irrelevant.
I wonder...can you take your mind off the fucking war for even an hour or two to mourn this tradgedy???
They said on CNN that the shuttle was actually traveling 6 times the speed of sound at 200,000 feet when it blew up. The context was that no surface to air stinger missle could have gotten them (so we'll probably hear that repeated a lot).
Of course, tv journalists have been wrong before.
it would be a real shame to take that as a reason to accelerate the war processus.
Well I would advice you not to turn on Fox News Channel...right under the Shuttle coverage their ticker is running stuff about Iraq, Saddam and "coming war." Not very subtle if you ask me.
(By contrast, CNN's ticker has nothing but information about the shuttle)
For me, this is old news...I already took on Xupiter.com months ago.
One of our users had the toolbar installed because they somehow had their Internet Zone security settings on "Low." Xupiter found its way onto the PC and the rest is history.
Quite honestly, I can't understand why science and engineering majors are held to one standard for grades and academics versus humanities majors even in the same school.
/.'er is unfamiliar with the concept of the grading "Curve." This phenomenon, enountered universally in college science/engineering/math courses, allows students to recieve an "B" on their test even when acheiving only 20% correct scores on their tests .
It seems our intrepid
Granted, the "curve" is still a Bell Curve and as such is not as skewed as inflation you find in the humanities. However, the conclusion that engineering students are necessarily competent - in light of the aforementioned "curve" - is one which arrives stillborn.
The same applies for the suggestion that Math/Science majors are involved in life/death situations later in life. If that's the case, then I think - based on the number of product defects and accidental deaths due to poor design each year - we have ample reason to raise their grading standards ten-fold!
My point is this: I wouldn't want to drive over a bridge designed by an engineer that got 15% on the final exam - but got an acceptable grade (B) because of a "Curve."
DOWN WITH THE GRADING CURVE IN ENGINEERING!
I never complain about moderations but this one takes the cake.
-1 Offtopic?
-1 Overrated
Moderators, get off the crack pipe! Read the linked article. It is a fscking police blotter of bruised little old ladies, kids missing eyes and wounded dogs, all injured by hooligans shooting random people with their "potato bazooka." Yippee. It is not about a bunch of geeks happily running around popping off spuds at each other.
Get a clue!
News for Hooligans, Makes Cops Madder.
Yah well a lot of "non-anime fans" in their 20s have heard about Eva, but virtually ALL kids under 12 know about pokemon and yu-gi-oh, some probably more so than mickey rat (and I bet lots of those kids have no idea that the anime they are watching is from japan - or that it's called anime).
Yes, Rei and Shinji certainly have quite a bit of brand recognition relative to Mickey. [rolls eyes]
You are a FSCKING dumbass. POKEMON. PIKACHU. DIGIMON. YU-GI-OH. And yes, even (shudder) DRAGONBALL Z.
'Nuff said.
Besides, you can use HTTP to link diverse systems without using Java's funky protocols.
Ok why don't you be more specific and give us some examples.
And please try to make it in the form of
"I was working on a project where the java code failed/performed slowly/took too long to complete"
instead of your usual
"this procedural code block is prettier to look at than this ugly OOP code block."
Thanks in advance.
If it is on the Internet, then why does it have to be *geographically* distributed? Just make one big-bass server room running things like Oracle somewhere in Denver. That way you don't have to duplicate similar configurations and setups all around the country (or world). (With off-site backups, of course).
Smells like a conspiracy to sell duplicate Sun-boxen to me.
Two words: LEGACY SYSTEMS
From your statement, I think we can only conclude that you have no Real World work experience.
VB also has a superior case/switch statement.
How do you code a case/switch statement in VB with "fall through." Yes, sometimes you actually need this!
What exactly is there in Java that allows one to build "complex applications"?
What is there in Java that DOESN'T allow one to build complex applications? Based on the thousands of commerical web sites now using server-side java, I think it is fair to argue there is more evidence for than against.
I look at their code and it appears to me like they don't know how to use a relational database...[yadda]
Ok, now you are confusing bad developers with the language that they are using? If you are a sucky programmer I doesn't matter if you are programming in xBase or Java, you will still suck. But that doesn't mean the language itself is the problem.
Show me some objective evidence that Java is superior, not brochure cliches.
How about some objective evidence (i.e. not from microsoft) that it is not? Meanwhile, Oracle, IBM and thousands of developers are throwing their weight behind Java.
They yanked some dynamic typing features from VB, for example, because they were not "Javish" enough.
Did you just imply that VB is somehow a better language than Java? Where to start...well, I'll let somebody else weigh in on that gem. Man, now I really can see where your rep as a troll came from.
Troll, poster, troll!
I've found in my experience that Java is good when it's highly specialized and kept very small and simple (yes, Java is good for APPLETS!). For enterprise applications, it _sucks_.
Interesting observation...
Why don't you give us some specific examples to back up that sweeping statement?
Those limeys probably got their information about air force phamacueticals from this article written by Marc Bowden The Atlantic Monthly.
The fact that fighter pilots take "go" pills and "stop" pills so they can withstand 9-hour sorties is common knowledge.
Anonymous Coward indeed.
My grandmother always said that she never voted "because then nobody could blame [her] for anything that our leaders did." Not a bad strategy if you ask me ^_^