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More Anime College and University Courses Being Offered
Ninja Master Gara writes "Anime News Network reports New York University is offering a new courses on the anime industry and culture. Anime is slowly expanding from University Clubs into mainstream college courses, many of which begin at the 'What is anime?' level. Several Universities and Community Colleges already offer similar courses, or incorporate anime into existing studies." If any school decides to offer a course on the Gundam series, I'd be happy to teach a class.
Imagine what an effective work force we would have if people promptly said "Hai!" and could cheer with "Yatta! Yatta!" :)
what about hentai class?
"I still gotta take Tentacle Rape 203 next term"
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Where is my anime course, I want apreciating Ghost in the Shell, and I WANT IT NOW NOW NOW!
The college I attended, Earlham College (www.earlham.edu), offered a course in anime for some years. Unfortunately they stopped offering it a year or two ago. I'm glad to see that course such as this are appearing at other Universities.
thats not anime!
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Hey Gundam is a very indepth and creative series, there are so many ways to anaylize the gundam universes. Every gundam series has its own message, so good, plus giant fighting mobile suits.. cant get much better then that
>I'd be happy to teach a class.
Id' be happy to be in the class. But i doubt i'd make a career out of it - a career which could pay my bills. But thats just me:) And once again - it would be a fun class to attend.
For the advanced course, I would recommend a mix of Evangelion and Memories (especially Magnetic Rose and Cannon Fodder).
For the Phd degree, submit a one page dissertation explaining the reason for the plot developments in the Excel Saga.
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I would have thought anime would have already been part of college, under art somewhere. Kinda like cartoon sketching or drawing, only with a particular style.
Selling software wont make you money, selling a service will.
This reminds me of the Star Trek courses that several colleges have had over the years. What a laugh riot. One syllabus I saw was basically watching 3 select star trek episodes a week, discussing them in class, and writing 5 papers analyzing them over the course of the semester. But still, that would be a great way to fulfill a GenEd humanities requirement or whatnot.
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I go to Western Washington University in Washington state and the Art History 270 course (India, Japan, China) taught by Momi Naughton takes an entire lecture period to talk about anime with a self-professed anime maniac, whose name I forget. He goes way back to influences such as Hokusai and brings basically the entire span of what we learned in the class and how if affected the development of anime. Quite interesting...
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As usefull as a course in Navajo rug weaving or reed baskets.
Yup, that anime course will make it more likely for the person to get work!
They might as well have an ass picking class, or a class on boogers. Be just as usefull.
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...in the Netherlands, that would be part of what they call a "pretpakket": basically something like a university degree in macrame. It's stupidly silly.
I heard education in the US sucked, but it's another thing to see it confirmed.
-- Waht? Tehr's a preveiw buottn?
Understanding anime should be an advanced course for writers and artists. The stylistic conventions are different from Western practice, but not incomprehensible. They can be studied and taught. Read Scott McCloud's "Understanding Comics". (Skip his later Internet book.)
wow... when comments like that get modded to plus 3 informative, something is really wrong.
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Course Description:
Anime (V33.0709) This course introduces students to the rich world of Japanese animation or anime, its form and style, history, popular genres and themes, major authors, and fan culture. We will explore the popularity of anime in relation to the cultural conditions of contemporary Japan and to the context of cultural globalization which is radically transforming the way audio-visual images are produced and consumed.
It's kind of nice to see that Anime is finally being recognize, after so many years, for it's massive cultural influences all over the world. It's gone from being a somewhat-maligned form of geek|children's entertainment to a full-fledged industry/art form. I think it would be interesting to see what's up next on the platter? Maybe the entire geek world can be examined for it's influences on modern culture. Think about it this way: someday your kids could be reading literature in school that includes archived Slashdot posts your doing now! Well.. considering how many "hentai tentacle rape" posts are bound to pop up here... maybe not.
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Jeez...That's hilarious. Talk about tentacle rape and then 'plugging the P2P hole.' Accidental humor at it's finest.
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Actually, it's BOTH Informative and Insightful.
Hopefully, they are offering a grammar class too.
Hell, the prospect of getting a B.A. in anime arts gives me a warm fuzzy feeling, that will probably contrast nicely to the bitter cold of sleeping in a gutter if I get that degree.
Having a whole course devoted to anime makes about as much sense to me as seeing Microsoft adds on a site that's never followed the Redmond two-step that closely.
On second thought, disregard everything I said.
At the University of Texas at *Austin* last fall was a full course focusing on just anime taught by Dr. Susan Napier of the Asian Studies Center there. (Dr. Napier did a guest lecture at Dr. Gossin's course last spring when we taught "Nausicaa" for the second time.) Dr. Napier has been invited as a guest lecturer at Harvard this spring and will be reteaching the anime course there. Yes, they're actually officially studying anime at *Harvard*! (Prepare for hell to free over after classes start there in a few weeks..... )
As for the complaint about the lack of college level books about anime (in English, that is) that's true. But Dr. Napier has completed her book "Anime from 'Akira' to 'Princess Mononoke'" and it will be out sometime this spring or summer. This will be the first college level analysis/literary criticism of anime available in English.
Especially considering the majority of Slashdot readers are fat middle-aged men whose only joy in life is infact wanking to the aforementioned hentai. Perhaps this is just their obscure method of social denial, and a way to escape the horrifying truth that they will probably forever continue the sub-existence that they have been living out for decades.
nothing like donkey cocks to be informative and insightful.... im sorry but im tired of seing anime sucks posts. If you hate it that much, then go to the preferences and check the box labeled anime.
Saying that it is poorly written or whatever alone doesn't constitute being informative or insightful.
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heh yeah right like superfriends or marvel are any better as you say?. I do like the stories but it is the unique artwork that set's anime apart from all other animation. It has style and a 'feel' thats more original than the other load of crock that passes for entertainment
Anyway, it would be a fun paper to write. Although, if I were teaching the course, I would open it up to a transformation sequence from any magical girl anime (Hime-chan's Ribbon, Card Captor Sakura, Saint Tail, Devil Hunter Yohko, etc). It might also be interesting to speculate about why animators decide to use the transformations with such repetition. Is it simply to reduce the amount of new animation per episode or do they think it provides continuity between episodes?
we have had courses in Star Trek, Star Wars, Wine Appreciation and whatever.. but the point is here.. what will this mean for your future..
.. i am a big fan of anime.. its just that i think that a college course on it, while cool, would be a waste of money (yours/your parents/your state's) and time that could be better spent (on girls/brews/parties)...
i am not arguing that people need not be given a grounding in the arts, far from it.. but lets face it folks, this is POP ART.. i doubt that other than the history of anime, this "course" can teach you anything that you and your friends can't learn by just sitting in front of the tube for a few brews and talking about it..
the point i am trying to make is that there is a LOT of art history out there.. stuff that people take for granted.. stuff that people don't BOTHER to learn...
Colleges are offering this kind of course to make you pay for a course that will not mean anything on your transcript (unless you are going into the anime field) and is nothing but grade padding.. in the same vein you may as well take a course in Britney Spears
don't get me wrong
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Anyway, I wonder how much they will be teaching what they think anime should be, versus what it really is? I ask as I've read this book on Takarazuka Revue which describes it basically as a hot-bed of azn lezbo tranny pr0n, whereas everyone Japanese who I've spoken to (including my wife, who studied at the associated drama school and college) says it's just fantasy escapism, especially because the average real-life Japanese man is so crap, the otokoyaku[*] provide an idealised view of what men could be.
[*] Obligatory Japanese word inserted to pretend I know what I'm talking about.
Come on...this series needs a course devoted to it. I mean mechs, spirituality, politics, culture? I'm sure everyone else here will probably either say Lain or Neon Genisis Evangelion.
of course...the anime art form is something that should be studied. for one, it offers some great content and social/political messages that wouldn't be accepted in "mainstream" media. second, artwork and story telling go hand in hand. after all, isn't that what artwork (of any form) is supposed to do, to speak to the viewer and convey some message/story?
anyone who flames me saying that hollywierd puts out decent artwork hasn't been to the theaters lately. most of it is tripe. it's entertaining yes, but it's still tripe in an artistic sense. of course there is the rare gem out there, but it's not often that people can (or care to) recognize the difference. for this reason film classes in general (including anime classes) are a way to help people gain some perspective and recognize art for art, and not just art for the sake of entertainment.
after my first film class i couldn't watch any movie in "pan and scan" anymore. it helped me understand composition, writing, story telling, and substance...something which is lacking in most of the "modern" world.
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I just wonder how many people realize where the word "anime" really comes from. For those who never knew, `anime' is really just the Japanese-truncated pronunciation of the American word `Animation'. So it amuses me that "anime" now essentially signifies "Japanese cartoons", when in truth everything from Batman to Donald Duck are "anime" as well.
gotta love how cultures mix and bounce things around.
-Q
they have a trial course that you can try if you got a graphics pad.
I got the link when I was browsing around studio Ghibli
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The fact that it is art is what makes it logical to teach a class on. Early philosophy teachers used popular poetry, and film schools today use feature films as point of example and discussion.
Why is anime any different. There is a wealth of ways one could approach the class. First you could look at the original artwork, in it's native culture. Then you can look at the citizen's response to it. Or you could examen foriegn audiences and their interest in the genre.
There is probably a great deal to learn, the best way to become wise is to teach yourself how to think, not what to think.
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Have you tried friends? There are countless to choose from. Most of them have a message. Plus, if your friends are large angry penguins they will be giant fighting suits!
mod that first reply up!
...that UT had an anime class. I need one more elective credit for graduation. Would be nice, although, I wouldn't know what college they would put it under.
Informative!
we have a jaanese culture class that touches on anime :-p
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It has style and a 'feel' thats more original than the other load of crock that passes for entertainment
Yeah! go tentacles!
Hey relax fella, you need a rest, guy.
Now that's flamebait (a post with obvious intentions to furiate, frustrate, and nuture further ill-willed posts), you fat geek. Make a note grasshopper.
Me fail english? that's unpossible!
Hey relax fella, you need a rest, guy.
Most anime conventions are great places to learn about anime and asian culture. This yeat Otakon has so far announced Frederick Schodt (author of various books on anime and manga) and Dr. Susan Napier of the U of Texas.
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Explain FLCL.
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I loved my film class, got to watch classics like mr. smith goes to washington and It Happened One night, I really appricaite film so much more now,
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Go and get the whole series of NEON GENISIS: EVANGELION , watch it with the 2 movies afterwards and then come back and say anime sucks...
Considering that it can be called a valid art form as any other form of hand-drawn animation is then it's hard to see why there is anything wrong with this at all. In fact, I find it interesting that something like this wasn't already in place.
Sure, anime hasn't been very mainstream up until recently, but I have seen some absurd art classes in my life. I'm not lying, but I have seen classes advertised as being "Studies of Hungarian Art from the 13th Century". Well, a class on anime can't do much worse, can it?
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Huh?! No, I'm not saying "Superfriends" or "Marvel" is any better than anime. I'm saying it's time you people GREW YOUR ASS UP AND FOUND FUCKING JOBS! Anime may be fun for an 11 year old child, but once you hit 12 you should be thinking about other things than flying robots and schoolgirl rape (well, unless it's real-life schoolgirl rape -- but cartoon schoolgirl rape is lame).
GET SOME PRIORITIES!
Oh, there is a career in anime, you just have to be one of the best. You can't be a mediocre artist and try to get into something big enough to pay your bills with. You have to be top notch, just as with any other form of art.
Listen to my experimental-industrial-techno!
A lot of people see this sort of thing as a huge joke but I don't. Studying something in-depth that revolves around entertainment is really no different than a kind of community service. By being well educated about a specific form of entertainment, you become a better creator of that form of entertainment, improving the quality of life of those who indulge in this entertainment. As such, you help the industry evolve and improve faster. The concept of taking an Anime college course will prove to be quite beneficial to the Anime industry itself, I think.
You're right, I wouldn't steal a car. But if it were possible, I sure as hell would download one!
I wish I could have taken joke classes for general education/other requirements..
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Man, would I have loved "Ethics of Quad Whoring" or "The Sociological Nature of Counter-Strike".
That's about all any anime course will amount to.
Don't get me wrong, I've watched enough anime in my time. (Woot, Gundam.) But coursework about anime is even more useless than majors related to Tolkien's languages (See crazy UK schools).. At least studying Quenya will give you experience in linguistics.
Good anime comes from Japan, and, I hate to pull the race thing up, but it's done by Japanese people.
Americans are only good for poor translations, subtitling, and acting like they hold mastery over the Japanese language because they can say 'hai' and 'baka'.
Finally, a post that makes sense. Why are all the good posts always modded down to -1?
I remember in the early 90s when my university had a major Japanese film studies department. Now all the serious scholars have moved on to serious Ivy League schools like Columbia or Princeton, leaving the "film studies" department dumbed down to the level of anime studies. I'm not surprised that serious scholars are desperate to move to schools that take film seriously.
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Better yet, try to figure out what the hell just happened.
Seriously though, I would not recommend smoking weed and watch all 28 episodes and 2 movies.. Might distort your reality.
Although as fair as drinking games go, try doing shots everytime you see a power/telephone line in Serial Experiments Lain!
Posting as AC, just to test the waters.
A Bachelor Degree in Waiting Around to Collect Your Trust Fund.
Give you something to talk about between skiing the Alps and summering in Barbados.
The Humanities strike again!
What is music when you despise all sound?
I just don't get it. Where do the worlds of Anime and Geek cross? I would consider myself somewhat geeky, but I absolutely despise Anime. In fact, I would go so far as to say that if I ever meet the people behind Pokemon, my dick would be really really sore. Also, WTF is up with Dragonball Z? On the occasions where I watched it, it seemed as if more than half of the time was spent on the characters just grunting and building up and up into Super Saijans (spelling?). For fuck's sake, they could have cut all that out and actually ran a whole storyline in a single episode! I will admit that Sailor Moon is hot, though. Also, I don't understand the whole girls-with-huge-eyes thing. Is it sort of an outlashing at how Asian people have slant-eyes? I think Asian women are sexy, and there is no need for men to belittle them in this way. Also, WTF is the deal with hentai? I've seen a few clips of it, but it's just nowhere close to the real thing (if you can call porn the real thing). Anyway, to get back on topic, why are there an unproportionately large amount of Anime articles on a nerd site? I do not see the connection. Jesus fucking Christ. Slashdot really IS turning into the editors' own personal blog. It seems the only solution is to block out all editors, but then the site is rather bland. I wish there were a way where I could just go straight to the comments without actually having to read all that bullshit on the front page. Unfortunately, all the good posts always get modded down to -1, and most people don't browse at -1. They should, though. One day the trolls will finally win this war and man will be better for it. Kind of like Democracy defeating Communism. Not that Democracy is any better. WTF is the point of the electoral college anyway? Florida, for instance has 25 electoral votes. Whichever candidate gets the most ELECTORAL votes wins. Electoral votes are in turn based on regular citizen votage. But, why bother having 25? Every election, ALL 25 go to whoever gets the most total citizen votes. But if the "winner" differs in certain localities, why shouldn't the electoral votes from those places go to the other guy? It just doens't make sense. I think whoever gets the most votes period should be the winner. So, in conclusion, Anime is for queers. I mean who the fuck would seriously consider hiring you if, when reading your resume, they come upon the fact that you went to ANIME COLLEGE. Well, I guess an Anime studio would. But seriously, if you like Anime you are a faggot and deserve to die a painful death. I would suggest hanging yourself from the nearest tree and dousing yourself in gasoline and lighting yourself at the same time. Unless the fire would burn the rope off...well, that would actually be good. Cause then you might not even die and just live in agonizing pain for the rest of your life. Because you deserve it. Fag.
The sooner colleges fully unmask their absurdity, the better. Anymore they're just cashing in on society's demanding people to attend.
am i the only one who thinks that anime is wierd and dumb? i'll grant you ghost in the shell and maybe a few others, but pokemon, inuyasha, and cowboy (fucking) beebop. good christ! don't tell me that i'm a xenophobic, cultureless american. don't tell me that coherence gets lost in the translation. there are standards for character and plot development that are universal, which is why i feel confident in dismissing a good 95% anime. you don't include 2.4 million characters in an episode and give them all one (count it) psychological motivation. it's just not done. who gives a shit about increasing your stupid power levels. furthermore, when somebody jumps in the air, they fall back to earth in accordance with the laws of gravity. they do not hang suspended for hours at a time while seizure-inducing blue and red colors zoom by them at high speed. and don't even get me started on anime "humor". there is an adjective that describes what it's like to experience the punchline of an anime joke, and that adjective is "scrotum-exploding".
My degree is still be worth something.
Guess again, you stupid, arrogant, ignorant fuck.
It's a sad day when criticizing the teachings of cartoons in higher education is muted, or in this case mod'd down. Though most people on slashdot seem to like anime, so that would explain why.
thanks for telling me about this BEFORE registration.
anyway i went to go change my class, and this class doesnt seem to actually be offered...maybe its just this semester or something but it is not listed on NYUs online reg page.
And why you are there practice the line "Do you want fries with that?"
Grow up.
Nothing against your particular post, but don't you think a course about a niche form of entertainment from one single particular country is a waste of taxpayer money?
I'm not paying taxes so some otaku (being called an otaku is NOT something to be proud of by the way) can take a course on the "deep meaning" of Evangelion.
Gigantor and Speed Racer, OK, the rest? GIVE ME A BREAK! They suck. Animation at two seconds per FRAME? I can get that on my P4 and matrox card, and I sure don't want it on my TV. Plus, I'm 35 years older from my Gigantor/Speed Racer days, where heck if I knew B&W and 0.5 FPS was not such a good thing.
Poor bastard. Move to a real country.
It looks like Underwater Basketweaving has some competition now.
I just want to make a point that I think many people may not be aware of. I'm currently a student at UC Berkeley and we have all kinds of classes like this, from history of video games, stock market course, male/female sexuality, simpsons to 80's pop-culture. BUT, they are all taught by STUDENTS. And the students can teach anything here at UCB as long as they get a faculty adviser. The adviser doesn't really play a part in the course though.
DeCal stands for Democratic education, it is students teaching students. Don't be confused and thing NYU highered a new Anime history. They didn't, and UCB didn't high LoTR profs or Simpsons ones either, students are teaching these classes...
I can fulfill my dream of writting my thesis on why Goku would win in a deathmatch against Superman.
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thing = think high = higher history = historian. ;-D I'm good thing i'm not an english major!
I could see them offering a course that uses anime as a sort of 'case study' for some real academic field, the way art majors examine a particular period or movement and fit it into their overall study of art.
Unfortunately, that's not what seems to be happening here. This looks like another pop-culture cop-out course.
I know people will get upset and point out that entertainment and pop-culture are worthy of study. That's true, but it should be serious study. If you want to teach a 100-level course on pop-culture, keep it broad and stress the basic themes and concepts of pop-culture with a variety of examples. If you want to focus on a specific medium/time-period/region combination, make an upper-level class that takes a specific academic perspective and targets a particular major.
In other words:
bad: Sociology 110 -- Sit-coms
good: Sociology 428 -- Sit-coms and wartime escapism in America
-- . . ramblin' . . .
the word "nazi" it means "nationalist", but now everyone connects this to German nationalists.
What's next?
Classes on how the banter between Space Ghost, Moltar and Zorak (in a typical Space Ghost Episode) is a crypto facist metaphor for nuclear war?
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Im am not a film major nor am I an anime fan but I did take a film class about techno thrillers which had Ghost in the Shell as a viewing and topic. This was over a year ago here at UC Santa Cruz by the way. And this year I walked in on another class' showing of what I think was Ghost in the Shell, not too sure, its very possible it was something different because it was a different teacher.
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Guess geeks just cant get dates.. Otherwise why the fascination w/ anime? Stupid cartoons w/ girls w/ big eyes and big tits..GO OUT AND ASK A REAL WOMAN FOR A DATE! jesus
anime is fucking stupid
I don't know any geeks who like anime. It is utter fucking crap.
I'd rather go on a date with a big fat dumb woman.
Anime is bad for geek image.
I have watched Neon Genesis and it does suck, its just Godzilla but the cast all has mental issues.
FUCK! The trolls are out in FORCE during this article. All of you all deserve a cookie. Man i'm cracking the hell up here, thanks guys :-)
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1) The professor's just hoping one of the students will figure it out so he can steal the answer and publish it.
2) See the black hole into which everything I learned in Intro to Neurosci went the minuite after the final. All I know is playing the Gundam Wing SNES game made my cousin's kid puke all over the floor.
3) Will accept: brief history of CLAMP studios, rant about roomate's inability to appreciate Ranma, questioning the sexual orientation of the Inital D character designs without coming off as homophobic, "What the fuck's with Utena?"
4) Find some orphans, some scientists, Russian or German, some unobtainium, and either harness the power of a minor diety or drug a creepy psychic kid. If nothing happens, draw more Kabalistic symbols on the walls.
5) Up the budget for the Tokyo Police Cataclysm Division.
Just pretend I came up with something funny in there somewhere.
Ooooh ahhh, he dared to offend the Anime fanboys, therefor he's a TROLL! How dare you make fun of Anime (with a capital-A, because god knows how IMPORTANT it is).
Once again, I ask slashdot: what's the point of your precious anime-fu website if you never use it? Why does japanese animation nonsense end up on slashdot all the time? Not getting enough hits on Anime-fu, or is it more fanboyism trying to convince "the world" that we should care at all about japanese cartoons and some lame-ass university that has decided to make a course out of it? I'm sure it's as valid as that course on Madonna studies as well...it will come in handy when you Yanks are asking "Want fries with that?"
Or could it be that the original poster is just pointing out that you japanese cartoon freaks vastly overinflate the so-called "importance" of anime? Face it: there are people in this world--lets call them the "vast majority"--that think anime is badly-drawn mysoginistic crap. Is it really necessary to depict women as 11-year-olds with dinner-plate sized eyes?
Anime geeks feel it is their "duty", for some reason, to spread the gospel of anime far and wide--acting as though the rest of the world "just doesn't get it" and that they are the inside elite who do. Keep calling it "anime" fanboy, it's just ANIMATION. That's all "anime" means. Bugs Bunny is just as much 'anime' as Mickey Mouse.
...they probably made these courses because they were tired of fresh high schoolers going to college for an art degree, having only a portfolio of DBZ and random scenes from video games...
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This is my first post in here, but spying this subject from a post in AnimeNewsService.com got me over here to share a little something that may spark interest.
Anyways, I've been volunteering work for the last couple weeks at Eastern KY University (Richmond, KY), running an international student lab class "English Translation Made Real" where I conduct Animé translations from Japanese->English with the help of several Japanese Exchange students and a few Japanese class students.
It may sound fun, but it is a lot of work, but the benefits are two-way. The students get participation credit for taking the course, and I get translations to the latest animé and manga that I can drum up for translating.
Because of the classroom environment, the translating process is more laborious, as many students are honing their translation skills, but the care taken seems to bring about more accurate and technically correct translating scripts.
Anyways, that's my 8 yen. If anyone reading this knows a group or a club in need of translation help, try out what I did, and get a local school to help sponsor a translation class.
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Temple University in Philadelphia has a course in Japanese Popular Culture taught by professor Barbara Thornbury (who also teaches Japanese language and literature), and there's a whole section of the course devoted to anime. When I took the course we read Susan Napier's book on the subject - but it was an awful book, rife with innacuracy, and the half of the class who was already savvy took up an entire class period at one point skewering it.
But despite people ooh-ing and ahh-ing over anime, why does the bulk of it suck?
Robots that change into people, cliches about motorcycles, long boring movies (Princess Mononake), that are just absolutely horrible and unwatchable.
And then people say "isn't this great?"
NO!
There is some that is entertaining, but to study it? Its like getting a degree in comic books. Cute, but stupid.
Really, more self-reflection is required.
its mainly that anime is highly overrated, and the people who seem to like it most are teenage boys who haven't gotten laid yet.
No offense, I'm sure you're a stud.
But, you know what I mean, right?
A note on the eyes. Eyes are one of the most expressive features of the human body. YOu can tell a lot about a person's mood and thoughts merely by watching their eyes. It's very hard to get a series of emotions to come across in small drawn eyes, so they draw them larger to allow more room to show changes.
You're right, anime is cartoons, just like bugs bunny, and the simpsons, and king of the hill, and the stuff on comedy central. Why is it that just because something is animated it is dismissed out of hand as childish? There are hundreds of ways to convey a story, using the styles of anime is just one of the ways, and certainly no less valid than a live action movie or a syndicated TV show.
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I'll bite.
Have you been to any anime conventions lately? Yes, there are a lot of guys (most presumably are more interested in toys than girls). But, my goodness, as anime catches on in the mainstream, there are a lot more cute girls looking very hot in their little cat-girl outfits.
May be troll, but still funny.
What a coincidence, I was just kicking myself last week for not enrolling in the new "Anime: From Akira to Princess Mononoke" class that fulfills one of our Non-Western General electives. It's an irregular course, which is all that we can expect here in Po-Dunk Oklahoma (OU). /me goes back to kicking /me
Is it far from coming: "Worst syllabus ever!"
Bowie....man...it's getting old.
give it up. don't you think you should be spending more time finding a goddamn job than doing the old anime jokes ?
Christ... in the amount of time you wrote that, i benchmarked 3 different load balancers, installed snort, and sent an invoice.
yes I have, in fact most of the time i watch anime is with friends. It makes for good conversation.
Since you bang a japanese woman, perhaps you could answer whether or not Japanese women are good in the sack? They seem too conservative to be any good.
I mean, will she do all 3 inputs and stuff like that? Will she try anything?
It's an excuse to put nudity or near-nudity in every episode. Duh.
The shareholder is always right.
In your case, you have to get a job first before you could hire someone.
Hahahaha! After reading all the dumb "anime = tentacle porn" comments, this really made my day.
Wrong. Anime refers specifically to Japanese animation.
Goddamn brilliant essay. Thank you for bringing some joy and common sense to this Godforsaken site.
No, you're wrong. Anime = Japanese word for animation. As someone said earlier, Mickey Mouse is as much an "anime character" as Misato from NG:Evangelion or Hyatt from Excel Saga.
Anime is just a word, which we use incorrectly to refer to animated films/TV shows from a particular country. I will accept anime as being specifically a reference to ONLY Japanese animation when I see it in Webster's.
So that's how you get modded down! You poke fun at people majoring in Anime!
And all this time I've been poking fun at GNU people and getting nowhere. Finally I might get my Excellent Karma down to Trollbait levels now that I know the trick.
p.s. I would like to apologize to all the Stallmanista's I ragged on over the years. You REALLY do have a sense of humour. It's these Anime nuts that can't take a good ribbing...
A Government Is a Body of People, Usually Notably Ungoverned
Main Entry: anime
Pronunciation: 'a-n&-"mA, 'ä-nE-
Function: noun
Etymology: Japanese, animation, short for animEshiyon, from English
Date: 1988
: a style of animation originating in Japan that is characterized by stark colorful graphics depicting vibrant characters in action-filled plots often with fantastic or futuristic themes
from http://www.m-w.com
I will accept anime as being specifically a reference to ONLY Japanese animation when I see it in Webster's
You mean, when you see it here?
Thanks for at least giving me something to go on this time. I was responding to "Anime is for guys who can't get laid." I thought that you meant there was a lack of resources, mainly members of the opposite sex. That's what I was responding to. Where are your age requirements? The girls I refer to are mostly from animation clubs in colleges and are at least 18. Also, would your cat suit phobia rule out a young Eartha Kitt or Julie Newmar?
Your first post was pointless, and you didn't make any arguments until this post. Why not just say what you thought the first time? Its closed-minded and inept to assume that everyone will understand your position. Its also cowardice to hide behind insults.
...Will this train me to be a Pokemon Master?
If you're going to try and turn people on to anime, I suggest a few things:
(And to anyone who has suffered through Neon Genesis: Evangelion, Toastyfrog's Neon Genesis: Evangelion Thumbnail Theatre is good for a solid laugh.)
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Bugs Bunny would be so sad...
I agree with your essay. You are acerbic, and your original post summed up what you explain here. You don't owe them an explanation however.
I thought this Japanime crap was interesting - high on marijuana. Some kid had it (the lacky-wannabe [the kind you send to get food when hungry] that invariably is present with a group of people get high, Towelie, wanna get high?), it was called Tank Police. It was all full of explosions, metal music. The next day, this bed wetter still wanted to watch it. And I thought it was crap, and knew that last night it was only interesting because it was colorful and had moving objects.
Its such a marketing scam, and the shit is expensive. And nothing ever happens. It takes YEARS of a series to progress 5 minutes (one kid used to like DBZ and the TV was in the same room as the computer, and that has got to be the worst shit ever, it rips the fabric of space and time).
Its quite clear to me that people in the computer related sciences who I admire patently don't like anime, or are obsessively geeky in any regard, save maybe the long hair bullshit. I doubt I'll ever see Joy, Ritchie, Thompson or Kernighan at a piece of shit Anime convention.
I even started to watch Akira [and another piece of shit she said was better was Devil Hunter Yoko or some crap] - some chick that was into Anime begged me to watch it [no, it wasnt worth the hookup, and she was good looking, but a god damn weirdo]. It is crap. Here I am, liking Shawshank Redemption, Sixth Sense, The Godfather, Memento, Dr. Strangelove, Full Metal Jacket, The Usual Suspects, Le Fabuleux destin d'Amélie Poulain, Y tu Mamá También , Like Water for Chocolate, Cinema Paradiso - and here lies this SHIT called Akira. What fucking crap. And you don't even have to direct or cast real living actors, detracting from the complexity, and it sucks so much shit. So, there you have it. Tank Police, Akira, Devil Hunter, Dragon Ball Z, SHIT SHIT SHIT and SHIT. And no, I don't want any suggestions for good anime from nerds, I have a life, a wife, travel plans and many assorted better things to do.
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While there are many of us who appreciate anime for what it is, and even those who have been taught about anime at various points (a My Neighbor Totoro clip that was shown in a character design class I had changed my life, no kidding), there's more reasons behind NYU's decision to offer anime courses than just academic enlightenment.
It's like my dad once told me: colleges and universities are businesses. And it's also like a Harper's article I once read: colleges are catering more and more to their "customers" desires.
Not to be cynical or anything, but there are a lot of otaku in the NYC area, and the presence of anime is becoming more and more prevalent every day-- from English-language issues of Newtype to a US version of Shonen Jump (at a convenience store near you!). The real test is if more anime courses are introduced later on, and if they are more focused (i.e., specific themes, comparative analysis, single artists'/studios' works, etc.) and less generalized.
Hey All, Thought this was funny. I'm currently a sophomore at Dartmouth College, studying anime in the Japanese Department. We have a floating seminar class, Japanese 81, different every year. This year it happens to be an anime course. For the class, we have to watch: Spirited Away Blood: The Last Vampire Perfect Blue Akira etc. The best part: they are featured in the Loews Movie Theatre on campus. Big screen, surround sound (where applicable), and a hell of a lot of fun. What a great class. -E Robinson, 05
Can I ask the really obvoius question (at the risk of being modded down by some hyper-sensitve moderator who lives in his parent's basement and collects star wars toys and has never kissed a girl despite being 38 years old...but I digress)
;P
Again, I am not being even slighly sarcastic here...why do most anime characters have disrpoportianely large eyes, muscular (for males) and wildly sexual appeareances and child-like facial features? I'm sure that NYU will address these issues. But I am already paying those NYU fuggs $1000 a credit (not even exaggerating!) for my comp sci curriculum and can't afford to take such courses just because they strike my whimsy.
There HAS to be some reason for this trend, but I just can't figure it out. Any clues?
By the way...not all moderators are bad. I myself moderate from time to time. The vitriol I expressed in the first passage was a catharsis directed at a moderator who modded down an honest joke as a Troll when that was far from the case. Oh well, you gotta have SOMETHING to talk to your therapist about, right?
Quod scripsi, scripsi.
Come on people, ya'll ought to know that Robotech is what opened up a lot of youngester's eyes, including myself. I ought to get a PhD is Robotechnology since I've read every book, seen every video, studied Tirol's history, including the Seeders and Karbarrans. Come on, my server is named SDF-1 and my network domain is Macross. My screen saver and wallpaper are Robotech and I've been playing the Robotech: Battle Cry on my X-Box for weeks now.