If you could give some views on why you think mozilla currently sucks I'd appreciate it. If you could also tell me those versions for windows that are bigger than IE without good reason I'd also appreciate it.
All that is nice. Cool new 3D Hardware to use in my cpu. The problem is these pieces of hardware never get proper drivers written for them. They never maximize the full capability of the specific hardware. ATI specifically has never had proper support for their drivers so why would I buy another card from them? The point is if you're going to release hardware. Release proper drivers for it. Whats the point in having a nice card that just sits there?
Shouts to 3dfx for staying on top.. I junked my rage fury and bought a voodoo.
I think it was a rather smart move. I also think that it wasn't done because of the DOJ or the countless lawsuits pending. However I do believe that what he states as him going back to what he loves is true. He's not stepping down because he wants to. He's stepping down because he has to. He has no choice. He hasn't been involved with the everyday dirty work of the OS nor the many other MS products. As "software CEO" he can fiddle in the dirty work. This isn't a move that will make MS less of a threat. With this small stepping down expect to see some suprising things from Microsoft.
Not only that but when the shit does hit the fan he's got a fall guy. By the time it's all over he'll re-emerge with new "innovative" technology. Everyone will be wowed. Microsoft is back on the map and he's got his battleship again.
OR it could be what the general concensus is; that he wants a fall guy and wants to be remembered as a philanthropist of sorts.
Read above to previous poster and my reply. As said; I don't care what you use as the post shouldn't relate to you if you don't use Linux.
What was the point in replying? Also I wasn't aware that speaking of previous experiences and what has happened to me as a Linux user was something of an illegal post.
Slashdot has now becomea site for news. Technical related news and less of a site that deals with Linux at all. Patents/Laws/Tech News/Rants disgusied as news. It's pathetic.
Again its become obvious to me that instead of being able to post to "Linux" users only I have to cater to "others". Not that others matter to me anyway. Shall we proceed with a background of Slashdot and who Slashdot tries to cater to? This is one of the problems I have with reading Slashdot. It was founded in the Linux community yet when someone posts about a problem they see with hardware/software with its own respects to Linux they are blasted with replies as such.
I don't care if you use Linux or not. In fact I don't care what you use as it is unimportant to me. However if Slashdot is to cater to the Linux community you shouldn't see a problem with such posts. I wasn't aware that this was a universal end all website. Maybe I should start reading elsewhere for linux related material.
It seems that as more *nix/linux/bsd people post about their experiences and how a company and or person affects our community we offend the "other".
With that I plan to make that the last time I read Slashdot. It has become something I don't wish to be a part of any longer and will explore other options; if any. Sad.
Why are you talking about a card that has no linux drivers. The company has made it a point to just support linux enough to barely use the card. The 3d support for the Rage Fury chipset period isn't even finished yet. Why bother? I will never buy another ATI card again. Hell, I would of been rid of the card if SuSe didn't release a free X server for it. Enough ranting
In simple, why support something that you can't use? Yeah "you gotta get one of those" but what are you gonna do with it? The holidays are over so hanging it on your tree as an ornament would be rather redundant.
That's not true. The standards that you are talking of and the standards that the DOD(etc) are talking of have two different meanings. The standard that they are talking of is a BASIC standard what can be installed without any reference to superior officers or the DOD itself. Basically its just a way of getting something to use in the event that there is nothing else. You won't have to petition your commander to install the standard crap. However you really need to check out your local DOD installation army/navy whatever may have you. The navy might use NT for automatic stuff on their ships but alot of the servers used are *NIX systems. They take a little bit more effort to deploy and that's why things like Linux/Unix in general need to be petitioned to be used. In fact the ARNG just switched their janus system over to Linux. You might want to check some of that stuff out.
I just think that this blaming of games for peoples actions in getting way out of control. I'm gonna go play some smash brothers. Does that mean I feel like taking a hammer to my best friend? Blame the game! It's not my fault!; I'm being influenced by pixels and colors.. It seems the world is in a sad state when it can blame computer games for peoples actions.
Anyway thats enough 2 cents from me for a while. I feel like playing some quake and then going out and commiting random acts of crime. When I get caught I will blame it on quake. Or plead insanity.. whichever I can get away with
Actually he did have eyesight at an early age. He wasn't born blind. Hrmm I forget when he lost it.. I believe it was around 2 or 5 or something but he did have eyesight at one point
Heh, good rebuttable. Its sensible, very sensible but there is the flaw in its operation. First off the comparison of the statement "Windows 2000 is the best operating system in the world" isn't very good for an example. Practical but not very useful. It's not expected that every potential user would then go out and compare hurd,linux,bsd,beos(etc) to Windows 2000. However the user based on prior experience will be able to tell if 2000 is useful to him/her and if its the best or not based upon his/her uses of it. If the user hasn't used 2000 at all then for him/her to take a stand or foundation on the question of it being the best in the world is ludicrous. Not only that but IF it happens to be the best in the world a user that has had umpteen crashes with the system would most likely be skeptical of the statement. (Yes I pose extreme variables with the word USER because their are many different types of users). The user then might query of another viable operating system or whatever happens to be the topic of FUD in general.
I do understand where you are coming from though. Having a site up that knocks the statements of what suchandsuch(tm) says to make sure its not a bunch of falsities is good. It's how its gone about which makes the difference. Sites such as KMFMS (hope thats right) provide good information and I don't believe the Counter-FUD label is a good name for it. It reviews Microsoft's practices and what is true, to the user. Its not Countering Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt.
Personally I think that we shouldn't be wasting our time. Microsoft is very harmless to us. Let them spout off whatever they want. I mean look at it this way if someone from the scientific community said they had found the cure for AIDS they'd be reviewed by their peers. We already do that. If Microsoft says that it's OS supports this and that and it doesn't Users who want to use this and that will know and it'll definitely be something thats made public.
Its extremely useless. Whatever happened to the cream of the crop rises to the top? Sayings like that? Why even pay attention to what other major corporations say if its unfounded? People who are literate will know what's useful and what isn't. It grabs me that the linux community is trying to dumb down the OS with loads of crap in order to grab the desktop. Let's just keep doing what we do best and that's the ability to innovate freely and provide quality software to our community. Which in general happens to be literate and highly intelligent.
Ok; so we're making fun of big corp names. However what does the name Redhat have to do with linux or anything computer related for that matter? If I were a non-literate computer user when I'm posed with the name RedHat. I'd probably think of a Red hat. Nothing to do with computers at all. How about slashdot? Great name for a webpage on that posts news. Heh; we shouldn't be so quick to judge others with funny names. Granted I've come to like all these names because I know what they truly mean. Bleh anyway
I strongly agree. I happen to be in the military and through basic training which was a while back we learned to shoot with simulators before we actually got to fire a weapon. Using the M16-A2 simulator (which runs linux) We learned how to shoot the weapon and control our breathing, aim, steadiness and trigger pulls. There were alot of people coming in with the impression that just because they've played Quake/Doom millions of times that they'd have no problems and those were the head ones that couldn't hit a single target. IMHO I believe that we shouldn't blame the games but rather place blame on the interaction of these children with their parents. Children just don't play quake and become obssessed with shooting someone. If that was the case then humans could easily be controlled by impulse; Its the parents and the time that is spent with the child. You can easily look at all these incidents and call out one factor. These kids spent egregious amounts of time playing the game. They weren't receiving any other stimuli for the most part. Very little human interaction and then the parents want to blame the game? No; sir/ma`am. We need to stop blaming what isn't there. Kids don't turn into cold blooded killers overnight people. Its a process. Thats in general my two cents.
You sir have obviously never attempted anything illegal. What about the users of HOTMAIL who lets say for instance are transferring credit card numbers through email? or passwords? Or love letters to their girlfriends or things of that nature that are private. What about RealNetworks scanning your hd? Yeah thats cool with you as well . There isn't a middle ground in this issue. Its one or the other. Either you want privacy or you don't?
More than half the users on the internet aren't even aware about their privacy. If you ask your every day joe schome computer user. He's most likely to say "but isn't this private; only my girlfriend can read this letter right?" I don't wanna have to be the one to say no, It isn't private, a major corporation with an idle employee is also reading your email right now. Oh btw if they feel disgruntled and you have a couple credit card numbers in that email expect to be making calls to your credit card company soon. This is what it all boils down to.
Lets look at it from an everday joe schome user situation. And a joe schome is gonna believe whatever TRUSTe has to say especially if its backed by major corporations.
McCarthyism? I have no clue what it has to do with this at all. Senator Joe McCarthy blamed people in Congress for being communist he didn't blame the actual communist. We aren't blaming the major corporations for doing what we know they will do. We are blaming TRUSTe for being an advocate for it all and pulling the wool over the consumers eye.
Basically the title says it all. I think that what hes doing is providing a disservice to our community; living and breathing on peoples fear of "hackers" so to speak. The truth is that most hackers would not waste their time with the media. Secondly the media would be bored with what a hacker had to say if it wasn't something about a bank being broken into or system security being exploited at a major fortune 500 company.
I think that what needs to be done is for him to be simply shown as the fraud he is everywhere possible. I'd truly like to see him sue anyone. I visited antionline.com for the first time a couple months ago. I see nothing; its not the source of anything and I don't see what you guys find interesting about it. All the information that he provides is available publicly and his archive of stuff is simply an archive of files around. Hes no expert, and hes talking at conferences which pisses me off. Real security experts have a hard time building their credentials and studying systems for years. Patches, fixes etc. It truly saddens me to see something like this. I will make it a point to check his credentials and inform you of what I find out. Thanks for listening
Well; Simply speaking I use Erols. Which can be reached at www.erols.com. I use the service 24/7 for $19.95 (I have never been disconnected) I never get a busy signal and I've had them for about 2 years now. The maximum times I've ever had to call them was once to signup.. Ok maybe twice when the east coast had the floyd incident and they went down for about 30 or so minutes. Thats it though. I love the service and if they offered cable service I would go with them. They claim to have been around since 1976 I believe it is. Don't quote me on that check the website. Not only that but my service is never slow. I'm on a 33.6 and I've never connected at anything under 31200. I know alot of people might have had different experiences with them but for me (I'm in the New York Tri-State Area) the service has been a breeze and I plan to stay with them until I switch to cable. Anyway to slide off topic a bit; I don't feel that accessing the internet should be restricted to an operating system; even if its an operating system of the masses. Also before you go switching ISP's I'd recommend looking at their history, their service, what they offer and find a couple of users that use it and find out their opinion. (Worldnet) the provider that I used before Erols, wasn't as good with connects and they offer 19.95 for 100 hours only I believe.
Anyway in closing make sure that you ask "Do you support my operating system?" If they say no, you know exactly what to do. Say "Goodbye".
This is an utter waste of time.. It'll probably be expensive and no one is really interested. Well me at least as one; is not interested. I don't see the point in it.. If you wanna play a game of quake just wait till you get home.
I figured it out people. I wrote avermedia and of course they said they didn't support linux. What I did was use a different type other than avermedia 98.. I used type 6 for bttv and type 2 for my tuner driver which is Phillips NTSC. DO not use TEMIC even though it says it on the card.. I have no idea why.. Don't ask me ask them.. And I also recommend you don't buy avermedia.. It took 2 email messages before they responded and if the 2nd one wasn't a bit nasty I'm sure they wouldn't have responded. Also I would recommend you don't buy from genericperipherals.com but I haven't interacted with them and the card works. Thanks for all the help.
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If you could give some views on why you think mozilla currently sucks I'd appreciate it. If you could also tell me those versions for windows that are bigger than IE without good reason I'd also appreciate it.
Thanks in advance.
All that is nice. Cool new 3D Hardware to use in my cpu. The problem is these pieces of hardware never get proper drivers written for them. They never maximize the full capability of the specific hardware. ATI specifically has never had proper support for their drivers so why would I buy another card from them? The point is if you're going to release hardware. Release proper drivers for it. Whats the point in having a nice card that just sits there?
Shouts to 3dfx for staying on top.. I junked my rage fury and bought a voodoo.
I think it was a rather smart move. I also think that it wasn't done because of the DOJ or the countless lawsuits pending. However I do believe that what he states as him going back to what he loves is true. He's not stepping down because he wants to. He's stepping down because he has to. He has no choice. He hasn't been involved with the everyday dirty work of the OS nor the many other MS products. As "software CEO" he can fiddle in the dirty work. This isn't a move that will make MS less of a threat. With this small stepping down expect to see some suprising things from Microsoft.
Not only that but when the shit does hit the fan he's got a fall guy. By the time it's all over he'll re-emerge with new "innovative" technology. Everyone will be wowed. Microsoft is back on the map and he's got his battleship again.
OR it could be what the general concensus is; that he wants a fall guy and wants to be remembered as a philanthropist of sorts.
I also don't see a .tgz anywhere for it. What's the deal with that?
I just read the release notes and I don't know if I'm reading wrong but it blatently says that the new rage 128 chipset is still not supported.
Read above to previous poster and my reply. As said; I don't care what you use as the post shouldn't relate to you if you don't use Linux.
What was the point in replying? Also I wasn't aware that speaking of previous experiences and what has happened to me as a Linux user was something of an illegal post.
Slashdot has now becomea site for news. Technical related news and less of a site that deals with Linux at all. Patents/Laws/Tech News/Rants disgusied as news. It's pathetic.
Again its become obvious to me that instead of being able to post to "Linux" users only I have to cater to "others". Not that others matter to me anyway. Shall we proceed with a background of Slashdot and who Slashdot tries to cater to? This is one of the problems I have with reading Slashdot. It was founded in the Linux community yet when someone posts about a problem they see with hardware/software with its own respects to Linux they are blasted with replies as such.
I don't care if you use Linux or not. In fact I don't care what you use as it is unimportant to me. However if Slashdot is to cater to the Linux community you shouldn't see a problem with such posts. I wasn't aware that this was a universal end all website. Maybe I should start reading elsewhere for linux related material.
It seems that as more *nix/linux/bsd people post about their experiences and how a company and or person affects our community we offend the "other".
With that I plan to make that the last time I read Slashdot. It has become something I don't wish to be a part of any longer and will explore other options; if any. Sad.
Why are you talking about a card that has no linux drivers. The company has made it a point to just support linux enough to barely use the card. The 3d support for the Rage Fury chipset period isn't even finished yet. Why bother? I will never buy another ATI card again. Hell, I would of been rid of the card if SuSe didn't release a free X server for it. Enough ranting
In simple, why support something that you can't use? Yeah "you gotta get one of those" but what are you gonna do with it? The holidays are over so hanging it on your tree as an ornament would be rather redundant.
That's not true. The standards that you are talking of and the standards that the DOD(etc) are talking of have two different meanings. The standard that they are talking of is a BASIC standard what can be installed without any reference to superior officers or the DOD itself. Basically its just a way of getting something to use in the event that there is nothing else. You won't have to petition your commander to install the standard crap. However you really need to check out your local DOD installation army/navy whatever may have you. The navy might use NT for automatic stuff on their ships but alot of the servers used are *NIX systems. They take a little bit more effort to deploy and that's why things like Linux/Unix in general need to be petitioned to be used. In fact the ARNG just switched their janus system over to Linux. You might want to check some of that stuff out.
I just think that this blaming of games for peoples actions in getting way out of control. I'm gonna go play some smash brothers. Does that mean I feel like taking a hammer to my best friend? Blame the game! It's not my fault!; I'm being influenced by pixels and colors.. It seems the world is in a sad state when it can blame computer games for peoples actions.
Anyway thats enough 2 cents from me for a while. I feel like playing some quake and then going out and commiting random acts of crime. When I get caught I will blame it on quake. Or plead insanity.. whichever I can get away with
Actually he did have eyesight at an early age. He wasn't born blind. Hrmm I forget when he lost it.. I believe it was around 2 or 5 or something but he did have eyesight at one point
Heh, good rebuttable. Its sensible, very sensible but there is the flaw in its operation. First off the comparison of the statement "Windows 2000 is the best operating system in the world" isn't very good for an example. Practical but not very useful. It's not expected that every potential user would then go out and compare hurd,linux,bsd,beos(etc) to Windows 2000. However the user based on prior experience will be able to tell if 2000 is useful to him/her and if its the best or not based upon his/her uses of it. If the user hasn't used 2000 at all then for him/her to take a stand or foundation on the question of it being the best in the world is ludicrous. Not only that but IF it happens to be the best in the world a user that has had umpteen crashes with the system would most likely be skeptical of the statement. (Yes I pose extreme variables with the word USER because their are many different types of users). The user then might query of another viable operating system or whatever happens to be the topic of FUD in general.
I do understand where you are coming from though. Having a site up that knocks the statements of what suchandsuch(tm) says to make sure its not a bunch of falsities is good. It's how its gone about which makes the difference. Sites such as KMFMS (hope thats right) provide good information and I don't believe the Counter-FUD label is a good name for it. It reviews Microsoft's practices and what is true, to the user. Its not Countering Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt.
Personally I think that we shouldn't be wasting our time. Microsoft is very harmless to us. Let them spout off whatever they want. I mean look at it this way if someone from the scientific community said they had found the cure for AIDS they'd be reviewed by their peers. We already do that. If Microsoft says that it's OS supports this and that and it doesn't Users who want to use this and that will know and it'll definitely be something thats made public.
Its extremely useless. Whatever happened to the cream of the crop rises to the top? Sayings like that? Why even pay attention to what other major corporations say if its unfounded? People who are literate will know what's useful and what isn't. It grabs me that the linux community is trying to dumb down the OS with loads of crap in order to grab the desktop. Let's just keep doing what we do best and that's the ability to innovate freely and provide quality software to our community. Which in general happens to be literate and highly intelligent.
Ok; so we're making fun of big corp names. However what does the name Redhat have to do with linux or anything computer related for that matter? If I were a non-literate computer user when I'm posed with the name RedHat. I'd probably think of a Red hat. Nothing to do with computers at all. How about slashdot? Great name for a webpage on that posts news. Heh; we shouldn't be so quick to judge others with funny names. Granted I've come to like all these names because I know what they truly mean. Bleh anyway
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I strongly agree. I happen to be in the military and through basic training which was a while back we learned to shoot with simulators before we actually got to fire a weapon. Using the M16-A2 simulator (which runs linux) We learned how to shoot the weapon and control our breathing, aim, steadiness and trigger pulls. There were alot of people coming in with the impression that just because they've played Quake/Doom millions of times that they'd have no problems and those were the head ones that couldn't hit a single target. IMHO I believe that we shouldn't blame the games but rather place blame on the interaction of these children with their parents. Children just don't play quake and become obssessed with shooting someone. If that was the case then humans could easily be controlled by impulse; Its the parents and the time that is spent with the child. You can easily look at all these incidents and call out one factor. These kids spent egregious amounts of time playing the game. They weren't receiving any other stimuli for the most part. Very little human interaction and then the parents want to blame the game? No; sir/ma`am. We need to stop blaming what isn't there. Kids don't turn into cold blooded killers overnight people. Its a process. Thats in general my two cents.
You sir have obviously never attempted anything illegal. What about the users of HOTMAIL who lets say for instance are transferring credit card numbers through email? or passwords? Or love letters to their girlfriends or things of that nature that are private. What about RealNetworks scanning your hd? Yeah thats cool with you as well . There isn't a middle ground in this issue. Its one or the other. Either you want privacy or you don't?
More than half the users on the internet aren't even aware about their privacy. If you ask your every day joe schome computer user. He's most likely to say "but isn't this private; only my girlfriend can read this letter right?" I don't wanna have to be the one to say no, It isn't private, a major corporation with an idle employee is also reading your email right now. Oh btw if they feel disgruntled and you have a couple credit card numbers in that email expect to be making calls to your credit card company soon.
This is what it all boils down to.
Lets look at it from an everday joe schome user situation. And a joe schome is gonna believe whatever TRUSTe has to say especially if its backed by major corporations.
McCarthyism? I have no clue what it has to do with this at all. Senator Joe McCarthy blamed people in Congress for being communist he didn't blame the actual communist. We aren't blaming the major corporations for doing what we know they will do. We are blaming TRUSTe for being an advocate for it all and pulling the wool over the consumers eye.
Basically the title says it all. I think that what hes doing is providing a disservice to our community; living and breathing on peoples fear of "hackers" so to speak. The truth is that most hackers would not waste their time with the media. Secondly the media would be bored with what a hacker had to say if it wasn't something about a bank being broken into or system security being exploited at a major fortune 500 company.
I think that what needs to be done is for him to be simply shown as the fraud he is everywhere possible. I'd truly like to see him sue anyone. I visited antionline.com for the first time a couple months ago. I see nothing; its not the source of anything and I don't see what you guys find interesting about it. All the information that he provides is available publicly and his archive of stuff is simply an archive of files around. Hes no expert, and hes talking at conferences which pisses me off. Real security experts have a hard time building their credentials and studying systems for years. Patches, fixes etc. It truly saddens me to see something like this. I will make it a point to check his credentials and inform you of what I find out. Thanks for listening
Well; Simply speaking I use Erols. Which can be reached at www.erols.com. I use the service 24/7 for $19.95 (I have never been disconnected) I never get a busy signal and I've had them for about 2 years now. The maximum times I've ever had to call them was once to signup.. Ok maybe twice when the east coast had the floyd incident and they went down for about 30 or so minutes. Thats it though. I love the service and if they offered cable service I would go with them. They claim to have been around since 1976 I believe it is. Don't quote me on that check the website. Not only that but my service is never slow. I'm on a 33.6 and I've never connected at anything under 31200. I know alot of people might have had different experiences with them but for me (I'm in the New York Tri-State Area) the service has been a breeze and I plan to stay with them until I switch to cable. Anyway to slide off topic a bit; I don't feel that accessing the internet should be restricted to an operating system; even if its an operating system of the masses. Also before you go switching ISP's I'd recommend looking at their history, their service, what they offer and find a couple of users that use it and find out their opinion. (Worldnet) the provider that I used before Erols, wasn't as good with connects and they offer 19.95 for 100 hours only I believe.
Anyway in closing make sure that you ask "Do you support my operating system?" If they say no, you know exactly what to do. Say "Goodbye".
-Chris
This is an utter waste of time.. It'll probably be expensive and no one is really interested. Well me at least as one; is not interested. I don't see the point in it.. If you wanna play a game of quake just wait till you get home.
I figured it out people. I wrote avermedia and of course they said they didn't support linux. What I did was use a different type other than avermedia 98.. I used type 6 for bttv and type 2 for my tuner driver which is Phillips NTSC. DO not use TEMIC even though it says it on the card.. I have no idea why.. Don't ask me ask them.. And I also recommend you don't buy avermedia.. It took 2 email messages before they responded and if the 2nd one wasn't a bit nasty I'm sure they wouldn't have responded. Also I would recommend you don't buy from genericperipherals.com but I haven't interacted with them and the card works. Thanks for all the help.