I don't really know why i'm bothering to reply myself.
1. HP has fallen due to their poor customer service and neglect of using useful technology and engineering capabilities over time. They've pretty much gutted their engineering and software talent pool. Thrown out technology which could be useful for them and generally treated their own customers and employees with some sort of weird disdain. This comment issue in and of itself is what I believe to be an attitude ingrained at HP. It reaffirms that HP really has not changed even after the excise of Carly Fiorina and that maybe more people need to be excised if the company is going to regain any of its previous stature as a top tier business.
2. The idea of having a blog to relate to customers problems and issues is what HP was going for. Regardless of the unconstructive and negative comments this one in particular was none of that. To my knowledge i've seen nothing to backup your claims. Please provide links when and where capable. Maybe we can turn the tides in favor of the truth.
3. I'm glad I don't make any of your companies decisions either. Especially if they rely on products from HP.
This is why HP has fallen so far from where it once stood as technology company.
A customer makes a bonafied and honest comment regarding his experience with one of their products and what do they do? Delete and then ignore it.
His complaint wasn't even highly critical. Regardless of the retraction which only seems to have occured because of bad PR it has really solidified by view of HP overtime. The old HP is truly dead and dead.
I'm sorry but this is enough for me to make sure that I stay away from HP stuff permanently.
This argument is false. Clearly and determinedly false. It's the type of argument made in a vacuum and neglects real life analysis of a situation.
Sometimes, workers lose their jobs to others willing to do the same for less. This results in the production of cheaper goods and services, but a potential loss of income for the non-competitive worker.
You'll find few if any "workers" who are willing to do the same for less in a market with rules or law. In a market with rule and law this argument clearly makes no sense. The 12 yr old in a country with no law, stitching up a tshirt for export to an entirely different country. Is living a lower quality of life than lets say an American worker. The labor laws are virtually non-existent in some of these countries so comparing the "workers" is entirely unfair. Also the markup price for the tshirt is clear in its final price. Have you seen some of the retail prices for clothing in the US? 40-50-60 US dollars for a shirt. Where are the savings? The savings are converted into profit. The price doesn't come down in our market, infact it goes up!
Income is reduced, but prices are also reduced (due to a more efficient corporation). Dislocated workers can either choose to give up, or find new work. In the case of manufacturing outsourcing, the country has moved from a manufacturing/industrial base to a more service oriented economy. The jobs that used be stable and high paying (manufacturing) were taken over by more efficient workers overseas. The labor pool shifted towards services.
Prices of goods and services in the US are up across every single industry every single year running. Even a pack of gum is up! If we are a services oriented industry then why are service oriented jobs being outsourced? If we are not manufacturing anything and not providing a service to anyone or anything. What industry is exactly left in the US? You're argument confuses me here, if we don't have enough qualified people in the US, we don't have enough people willing to work below minimum wage. Americans are obviously lazy people even though on average Americans work more than any other country in the world.
This is progress. Someday, engineering may be outsourced to people willing to do it for less. That means, that in order to stay competitive we need to INNOVATE. Find stuff that is so novel and valuable that only we can do it. This is also progress. The economy does this all of the time - think back to when the US was a agricultural based economy, and then BOOM, the industrial revolution obsoleted many manual laborers.
Actually, what killed the agricultural market was the fact that because of technological progress it became extremely cheap to harness crop. To my knowledge this has only gotten better. So much so that in some areas farmers have to be paid to NOT plant crop. The abundance of food the US produces per year is phenomenal. The industrial revolution didn't obsolote manual laborers at all. I don't know where that argument came from, if anything it made more manual laborers. Building bridges, subways, trains, cars, planes, houses, skyscrapers, roads etc etc. Manual laboring is a requirement for such feats. The "blue collar" worker should be one of the most revered positions in a country like ours. Somehow somewhere along the line that view was skewed and the people who truly work hard are rewarded with attitudes like yours. This phenomenon has been labelled by economists as Schumpeterian creative destruction. This disequilibrium that is created is painful and can last years, but we all benefit in the long run, as goods and services are created more efficiently leading to lower prices and hence higher standards of living - provided that the labor pool is willing to look for work in more valuable areas
I disagree, I've seen none of the evidence above. I'd rather not operate on your opinion but rather look at the present and factual evidence making proper correlation based on such a present analysis. C
I'm not a traditional "Christian" and I don't follow the Bible literally. That would make me a fool. I do believe in god, I do believe in several simple messages from every bible. Those messages are the ones I've said above.
I don't care about all the other "lessons" or stories, morals, etc. They are entirely irrelevant to live what I believe is virtuous and righteous lifestyle.
Contradiction would be believing in what I believe and fleeing from that belief when it becomes tested. I'm not one of those people. The bible may be a stupid fucking book but my faith isn't in a book.
You know.. it's clear to me that America truly isn't a place of freedom anymore. It's more free than other places but this country is looking more oligarchy everyday. Wonder how long it can last until some fresh blood needs to be spilled.
I'm Christian, i'm male, i'm straight, i'm black, i'm American. I don't give a shit if two males or two females want to marry. Not my business and if god has a problem with it. Let god do the judging, i'm too busy trying to survive.
What really gets me is that regardless of religion. If you can't follow the simple commandments and rationalize them on the basis of your own ideology. How fucking faithful and true to your religion are you? "Love thy neighbhor? Yeah.. only if they aren't gay."
You fucking hypocrites, the same book you live by talks about people like you. The same book talks about praising false idols (ie: the pope). I mean, even before the new ones burial plot could sink people are already over their mourning and cheering a new pope and for what?! Religious leadership? You need a leader to talk to your god, to steer you to holiness?
You "religious" people disgust me. Stop walking around in the dark or you'll be left in the dark. How about you all take a minute and re-read the bible? Any bible, any religion. You don't have to get far to see the message.
Treat people the way you want to be treated, love thy neighbor.. You don't need a church, wherever two or more gather. I'll be there.
I mean jesus christ.. seriously.. JESUS CHRIST.. help these people.
I take the A/C Line everyday to work. A central switch system center caught fire and service has been even more horrid since the incident. I've also noticed an increase in vermin and general subway disrepair everywhere I look. Other lines are even worst. When I occasionally have to transfer to the 4/5 they have brand new trains but they are so slim line that it's not just cramped but hard to even stand.
Then I read about this computer system somewhere and I looked at the increase in fare i've been paying and i've gotta wonder to myself?
WHAT THE FUCK IS THE MTA DOING? If you live in NYC the subway is the worst part of your day.. That and the Starbuck lids.
That is all there is to say. Being free and forcing free are two different things. One is actually free and the other isn't.
If GPL 3.0 implements this silly idea then it certainly will be killing itself off at present. The altruistic idea of forcing all code into the open into todays unethical commune is silly. It will put the good guys, the guys who play fair in a bad position and the corporations and businesses who don't in a golden position.
The idea in and of itself is the holy grail but it would be at the expense of the good guys. Where's the gain; for anyone, except for people opposed to opensource in the first place?
My mom always told me there are some people who are so blinded by altruism that they don't realize they are being stupid. They don't see that they've already accomplished their goal so they walk to the end and lose. I've seen it happen a couple of times. It'd be hard for me to see it happen here.
Wow i'm shocked to even have read that. Guess the end times are near:-)
No, Criticism is a valid form of response. In opensource you will be criticized, and usually harshly. Developers, Users, etc all put up with it. Read the mailing list on a random opensource project and you'll see it.
Constructive criticism is good, it's what produces quality in opensource. It's what keeps it viable and useful. Useless criticism is just that, useless. It provides nothing and should not affect the one on the receiving end. It simply adds or contributes nothing in any form or fashion.
That is the difference. When you learn from constructive criticism you not only grow stronger but you may gain an ally. I've experienced it myself and the learning experience has been golden.
To my knowledge, when I was a teenager 10 or so years ago I did alot of criticizing. Still do, nothings changed, so i'll most likely go to the grave bitching, guns loaded and all. IMHO we need more people with constructive criticism. If history is any marker in this industry at least, opensource is where most of it happens. In public open forums no less.
As an analyst, I'd say her work (that I've read) is usually solid. I don't agree with all her conclusions, but remember - her job is to figure out what mainstream business is doing and is interested in. It's not to rave about one platform or another. And since mainstream business is on Windows, converting would incur costs and complications that don't exist if they stay on Windows. Some companies would save money by moving to Linux - some would not. Sometimes it's worth it for a business. Sometimes it's not. And sometimes she's spot-on - sometimes she's not.
I can understand that you might want to respect a previous relationship with a person based on that personal experience and basis. That is fair and respectful of that relationship and experience. It's the stand up thing to do and is simple common courtesy.
However, professionally there is nothing you can say to backup the above statement. It doesn't only tarnish my opinion of you. Which is of no matter in this topic but it also makes me believe you to be a troll of enormous proportion. I don't know you but I do know Laura Didio the analyst through what she has written.
Laura Didio has consistently been wrong, again and again. There is nothing wrong with being wrong, unless your job is that of an analyst. When those analysis are clearly wrong, consistently. Including being misleading, or outright blatant lies, people become vehement.
Would you not be angry if your stock analyst told you to "Strong buy" SCO stock? What happens if he or she repeatedly gave you incorrect information or even lied to you? You'd expect for them to be hastily terminated or you would look elsewhere. You'll also be sure to warn others not to associate or take information from said analyst because they've burned you before.
Do you expect no less from people who base business decision on what she might have reported?
I'm not saying that the flames in their extreme degrees are deserved, or, people calling her house at 11pm is appropriate. It is clearly digusting behavior that isn't necessary. However, why should anyone feel empathy for Laura Didio? Shes lied, shes been wrong and she simply continues on with no regard for the analysis she provides. This, for the same people who are to trust the analysis.
I respect your opinion regarding this situation and your note of courtesy. This, however isn't a matter of courtesy. It's a matter of truth.
The truth is, shes a horrible analyst, a liar and people are right to be angry. She continues to exhibit this behavior, again, with no regard at all for the truth.
Seriously, this is so void of legible response that it makes it painful to read.
Your conceptions are clearly misguided on the basis that you seem to not know what you are talking about.
This is obviously not a jab at you personally or professionally. I'm sure you are extremely qualified and good at whatever it is that you do.
However, you are clearly lost. Bill Gates personal life and his business acumen and behavior are two completely different things. Praising the man for his general charity doesn't expound to his or the companies he works for behavior in the computing industry. Please learn to seperate the two. That said you would do yourself good to try other operating systems.
Hosting via Windows is russian roulette. I say this because i've done the real life test myself. I'm no windows professional. Infact, in Dec of 1994 I stopped using windows when an OS/2 warp disk of mine died and an IBM engineer at the time gave me a copy of linux. There are so many black magic items in Windows that it would take an increasing amount of time for me to learn them all. Windows isn't easy to learn, it's easy to click alot of buttons and try to get it working but that doesn't enable me to understand what is going on or what is happening with my computer.
This has lead me to believe that windows administrators simply don't care about their systems enough to know how they work. They just want a patch or a quick fix or to press a couple of buttons and reboot. I've even extended myself to try and find a good windows administrator to learn from. I hate windows, but I'm clearly trying to understand where the low cost TCO and ease of use come from. If anyone is willing to help with this please feel free to contact me.
The documentation via Microsoft is often incorrect or not detailed. In most cases the behavior exhibited isn't what the documentation is really for and/or there are completely missing chunks of steps via documentation. An example of this would be smartcards. In Unix land, these problems are mitigated by having the source. Also, man pages usually are exacting, so my questions are answered. This isn't available via windows.
I switched over a heavily trafficed site to Windows based on contract purposes and it crashed, repeatedly. Why? I'm still amiss as to why. There was simply no way to fix this. Microsoft said they would look into this and I'm not sure if they ever did. My caring well ran dry way before that. I took the same site and put it on a Solaris box, that was in 2001. I haven't touched it since. It's still running from the time I powered it on, this is about 3 years and 9 months later.
So my experience with Microsoft has been the complete opposite. I'm not sure they've made a positive difference in the computing industry. Even with the low cost of hardware which can be traced back to hardware manufacturers and competition. Microsoft hasn't provided software that changes people lives or allows for general productivity in the work place. Computers are to be aids, tools to real life work. Has Microsoft changed my life or allowed me to be productive? To date, no, they've allowed me to be less productive. To get less work done. I spend more time fiddling with windows machines than trying to work on new interesting things. It annoys me. In comparison, if I put a unix box up to do something. I walk away, and usually I don't come back. I go on to other things.
Unix/Linux/Open Source allows me to learn to enable productivity. It allows me to get my job done and go home and enjoy other things.
general jokster. In all honesty, who really cares what she has to say? Or for that matter, anything else coming from the Yankee Group in general. It's all joke, smoke and mirrors stuff.
You know what would be a good idea. A bunch of geeks getting together with a bunch of researchers in their respective fields. Creating honest, non-biased "this is the way it is" anaylsis and reports on TCO/Software/Hardware/etc. Sort of like Consumer Reports(tm) but with more detail and analysis of specific topics.
Laura Didio? Whatever.. If I want to run my business or anyone elses into the ground; I'll take her advice. Until then, I won't even pretend to RTFA.
No, it's not an entirely different matter. You're data is being routed through the hospital. It belongs and is in filing cabinets and areas that do not belong to you. You don't give up your privacy to your data though.
Just because you let others data pass through on your router (which I'd suspect would have to be at a major backbone somewhere for the sake of your example) doesn't mean you have the right to inspect that data. If you don't like that, shutdown your router. ISP's don't have the right, and unless you have a bonafied warrant neither do you.
As I will make it a point to keep my private data; private. By either encrypting those packets being sent over your router or by taking the appropriate steps to ensure my privacy.
This is my right granted to me as a citizen of the US. Maybe you live in a different country, in which case your view point would be understandable. If you're a US citizen; you're embarassing.
You are making absolutely no sense. The right to privacy doesn't only extend to your silly property succinct. Should I have the right to your medical records because i'm an employee at the hospital? Should I have the right to your credit record because I work for the waste removal company on behalf of the credit bureau?
Privacy isn't somehow bound by property only. It's based on the fact that somethings are private. IE: Between one person and another.
Your post isn't what will make you unpopular it's the fact that like most people nowadays you are willing to give up your rights to privacy based on such silly notions. Believing in all actuality that you are somehow taking the dry reasonable ground. When infact you are enslaving yourself and smiling at the same time.
All people like me can do is scratch our heads in amazement.
True, how I forgot about wine I don't know.. The only major difference I can see here is that Mono is a compiler implementation based on a standard. Wine works at being compatible by replacing the native api through dll's. Never thought about it like that.
Doesn't matter though. I still don't trust Microsoft.
Made it real hard for all the terrorist who have hijacked airplanes in the last 20 years; real hard. So hard infact, the latest round of attacks involved them training to become pilots with id.
You prevent terrorism, not by doing a couple dozen stupid things but by making security an open process.
How does having to show id make it harder to accomplish terrorist goals? Name one instance where a terrorist having to show id stopped them from doing things of terrorist like nature.
1. The entire OS will be accessible through a set of managed APIs. This makes coding 10 times easier and faster, and raises productivity to unprecedented levels. This also makes buffer overflows and some other security issues a thing of the past.
"Managed APIs". I can see where this is going already.
2. New, resolution independent, vector based, GPU-enabled UI engine. Two years from Longhorn release people will be buying 200+ DPI displays because things look a lot better on them. What's KDE/Gnome users gonna do? That's right, try to discern tiny non-scalable icons on these displays.
Gnome/KDE already support SVG. So gnome/kde have scalable fonts/icons.. right now, today. Not only that but work is already being done in this respect http://cairographics.org/introduction.
3. Completely new UI, including some significant paradigm changes.
PARA DIG EM! Yeah.. when I wanna be wowed by UI i'll use Enlightenement or OSX. Suprisingly nothing from Microsoft has ever impressed me in that department. I mean, the screenshots I've seen of gnome/kde/enlightenment/osx/xfce. Microsoft needs to hire new UI designers.. I mean, seriously.
4. Seamless integration of client and server side (that's what XAML is all about, IMHO). Your webapps will actually run sandboxed.NET code on your machine. Kind of like applets, but the entire webapp will be built out of them. Just think about the possibilities there.
Mozilla and XML. Thats what Mozilla is all about. Your webapps will actually run regular ole XML on your machine. Kind of like google mail, but the entire webapp will be built out of them. I'm living in the present by the way.. Just incase you were wondering.
5. Reliable Web Services - Indigo, web services that don't suck. More importantly, web service protocol that's supported by the majority of computers in the world (when most people upgrade). And you can bet your ass they will upgrade, just like a couple of years after W95 was released almost everyone ran W95.
Reliable Web Services? Web service protocol? So whats that called? HTMP? is that going to be ontop of HTTP? Making it more reliable and supported worldwide (after everyone switches from HTTP). Bet my ass i'll upgrade for a protocol, just like when I upgraded for ftp!
It's time to stop copying Windows XP, folks. It's time to start copying Longhorn. Gnome devs have already realised that.
What you say?! Stop copying XP and start copying Longhorn?! Why my lad, you can't copy what doesn't exist.
Seriously though, I hate Microsoft and if they had anything genuinely original coming out in Longhorn i'd probably be interested. Especially if it's good technology. To date, i'm hearing about stuff people have either already implemented or wrote about. Things that have been discussed by numerous people over the years. The innovation isn't happening at Microsoft, it's happening elsewhere. It's not even an attractive company to work for nowadays and i'd be hard pressed to say they've ever invented anything original.
I mean, if I wanted to do original shit i'd have to go to work for anyone other than Microsoft.
Who cares about what Gartner has to say? Do they write the code? They've never had a complete anaylsis on one subject either way. They look for trends, spit out some numbers, throw that shit into a report and release.
The problem with "standards" and geeks and all this in between middle man shit is that until you start learning to speak business lingo you are essentially screwed. Many times I've seen excellent technology and ideas get pushed to the side because a person lacked the skill, finese and communication skills to get their point across. Many a time i've seen NT replace *nix because someone was either too afraid to say something or they simply lacked any sort of finese.
I've seen good people, people who know better support proprietary formats/"standards" when there was simply no need for it. Why? Lack of communication, fear of reprisal and general stupidity.
Here are some rules. You're dumbass manager or IT director who knows jack shit got to where he or she is because they possess the skill that you don't. It's nothing special. That skill is communication. Here are some rules you can follow.
1. When you are going to present something technical. EG: Standards, formats, proposal as to why your company should switch to Firefox. Don't become religious. Drop a couple of points, maybe test the waters and try to get a few people to switch. If they don't want to, no problem. You're also going to need to write a report, something better than a Gartner analysis about all of the good and bad involved and don't try to sugarcoat any of it. You'll address all of the good points and assess the bad points for response. You must make sure to research your competition thoroughly and make it a point to know major flaws in your competition.
2. This is business, Firefox is free, this is an easy selling point, but IE is free too. You don't want to say the word "free". You want to say "the cost is going to be lower than what we currently spend in supporting "X" product by "X" percentage allowing my department to save "X" in cost annually while increasing productivity and allowing for resources to be better utilized in other critical areas.
3. Never underestimate your competition. If you have some Microsoft lover salivating at the chance to shoot you down by screaming at the top of their lungs. Let them, you; you keep your composure. Be sophiscated and knowledgable, able to refute point for point why "X" is a better product and why it would fit in your company.
4. Do this infront of people who matter. Your boss, if Microsoft lover will try and impede by shrugging it off or saying there is no time for this etc. Respectfully disagree, and shoot off your report to his/her boss. Make sure you CC him/her and also make sure that you state you discussed this with him/her and respectfully disagreed. However, because you've put effort into this you'd like another opinion. You're doing this because you think it could help your company save money, it's important to you because it will help you to concentrate more on your job and less on things that are permitting your company to waste revenue. You'd like to see things running smoothly and efficiently, lowering costs. As we are all aware, IT hardware/software is extremely expensive. You're looking for the greatest return for what is going to be spent. It's about how IT is valued in this company and you would like to take a serious look at your proposal maybe in a meeting or presentation etc. Even though I've discussed this with my boss it's important for me to give this another chance. etc
5. Have a plan. Fully vetted. Assess your situation and know your enemies, make them your friends and keep them as happy as possible. If they support you then your battle is already won. If you get the go ahead for the presentation or meeting. Have it already prepared, be ready to run with it at a moments notice. You don't want your competition to have any time to get a report/presentation or meeting together in place of yours. If you're asked if yo
Then i'm not missing the point, what you are saying is that honest customers will go buy the game instead of downloading it. Yes, instead of downloading 3 to 4 gigs on your cable modem which would take maybe take 4-5 hours; you go and buy the game. 10 gigs? Start the download, go to work, come home. 20 gigs? Start the download Friday night, go party over the weekend. 100 gigs? Throw the download into the background and come back in 3-5 days.
Which should also reinforce the point that increasing texture size will not stop piracy. Honest customers just go and buy the game. Yes, that is the way it works.
Yes it is as silly as it sounds. Gigs of data on a cable modem is nothing. The size of a file has never stopped piracy, you're just speaking in complete jest with no factual data to back your statement beyond the silly comment itself.
Gigs of data is nothing to a "pirate". They have terrabytes full of data trade in 24 hours nowadays. You think a 3-4 gig download is gonna stop someone from downloading software?
How long do you think it takes to download a gig on a cable modem?
Seriously, you aren't making a lot of sense. The people who pirate Half-Life 2 ARE ENJOYING the game they did not pay for.
The people who PAID for Half-Life 2 CANNOT PLAY. As the original parent said he's just going to be a smart consumer. What, are you asking him to go buy another copy of the game to try and get it working? Maybe buy Half-Life 3 and pray it works?
100% of the time people who pirate the software weren't going to buy it anyway. For the consumer who realizes it's easier to pirate than to buy a valid copy this is what will happen. Customers who want to buy copies of the game legally will turn to piracy. Why? Simply because it's easier and they won't have to put up with the bullshit.
Before DRM how did Valve make money? Can you get a clue? Here are ways Valve can make money besides DRM, offer a trinket with the boxed copy. Offer gold disc editions. Put random freebies in boxed copies. Press a few of the CD's with graphically signed copies from the coders who sweated over the game; throw them into random boxes. Put posters in the boxes, put random easter eggs in the program that reward verified boxed copies. Throw in 500 copies of rebates into a box which would essentially make the game free for those respective parties. One could go on and on. All of it would make their current fan base more loyal and low and behold doesn't involve any DRM. Not only that but because of the loyal fan base and freebies/goodies to be had fans may buy more than one copy. It's simply good business all around. The "pirates" are still going to steal the game. So you end up with a fiercely loyal fan base, happy customers and you can concentrate on making your next game even better. All for a couple of trinkets which probably amount to 10 times less that was spent on the stupid DRM system. When you treat your customers with respect and like law abiding citizens. Guess what? They come back, not only do they come back but hell, they'll extend thesmelves for you when you need it. They'll buy that extra cookie, or come into the shop with a couple of friends. In some instances they'll only buy whatever product from you and you alone. When you treat them like criminals, they'll act like criminals.
So will the parent pirate Half-Life 3? According to Valve; he is already a thief. However, as the consumer, Valve took his money, promised him service and that service is no where to be found. Someone here is the pirate and it's not the honest customer above who put down coin for the game.
If you were stolen from, you'd be upset too. Right?
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I don't really know why i'm bothering to reply myself.
1. HP has fallen due to their poor customer service and neglect of using useful technology and engineering capabilities over time. They've pretty much gutted their engineering and software talent pool. Thrown out technology which could be useful for them and generally treated their own customers and employees with some sort of weird disdain. This comment issue in and of itself is what I believe to be an attitude ingrained at HP. It reaffirms that HP really has not changed even after the excise of Carly Fiorina and that maybe more people need to be excised if the company is going to regain any of its previous stature as a top tier business.
2. The idea of having a blog to relate to customers problems and issues is what HP was going for. Regardless of the unconstructive and negative comments this one in particular was none of that. To my knowledge i've seen nothing to backup your claims. Please provide links when and where capable. Maybe we can turn the tides in favor of the truth.
3. I'm glad I don't make any of your companies decisions either. Especially if they rely on products from HP.
This is why HP has fallen so far from where it once stood as technology company.
A customer makes a bonafied and honest comment regarding his experience with one of their products and what do they do? Delete and then ignore it.
His complaint wasn't even highly critical. Regardless of the retraction which only seems to have occured because of bad PR it has really solidified by view of HP overtime. The old HP is truly dead and dead.
I'm sorry but this is enough for me to make sure that I stay away from HP stuff permanently.
That pig flying was about this. Was wondering wtf that was about.
This argument is false. Clearly and determinedly false. It's the type of argument made in a vacuum and neglects real life analysis of a situation.
Sometimes, workers lose their jobs to others willing to do the same for less. This results in the production of cheaper goods and services, but a potential loss of income for the non-competitive worker.
You'll find few if any "workers" who are willing to do the same for less in a market with rules or law. In a market with rule and law this argument clearly makes no sense. The 12 yr old in a country with no law, stitching up a tshirt for export to an entirely different country. Is living a lower quality of life than lets say an American worker. The labor laws are virtually non-existent in some of these countries so comparing the "workers" is entirely unfair. Also the markup price for the tshirt is clear in its final price. Have you seen some of the retail prices for clothing in the US? 40-50-60 US dollars for a shirt. Where are the savings? The savings are converted into profit. The price doesn't come down in our market, infact it goes up!
Income is reduced, but prices are also reduced (due to a more efficient corporation). Dislocated workers can either choose to give up, or find new work. In the case of manufacturing outsourcing, the country has moved from a manufacturing/industrial base to a more service oriented economy. The jobs that used be stable and high paying (manufacturing) were taken over by more efficient workers overseas. The labor pool shifted towards services.
Prices of goods and services in the US are up across every single industry every single year running. Even a pack of gum is up! If we are a services oriented industry then why are service oriented jobs being outsourced? If we are not manufacturing anything and not providing a service to anyone or anything. What industry is exactly left in the US? You're argument confuses me here, if we don't have enough qualified people in the US, we don't have enough people willing to work below minimum wage. Americans are obviously lazy people even though on average Americans work more than any other country in the world.
This is progress. Someday, engineering may be outsourced to people willing to do it for less. That means, that in order to stay competitive we need to INNOVATE. Find stuff that is so novel and valuable that only we can do it. This is also progress. The economy does this all of the time - think back to when the US was a agricultural based economy, and then BOOM, the industrial revolution obsoleted many manual laborers.
Actually, what killed the agricultural market was the fact that because of technological progress it became extremely cheap to harness crop. To my knowledge this has only gotten better. So much so that in some areas farmers have to be paid to NOT plant crop. The abundance of food the US produces per year is phenomenal. The industrial revolution didn't obsolote manual laborers at all. I don't know where that argument came from, if anything it made more manual laborers. Building bridges, subways, trains, cars, planes, houses, skyscrapers, roads etc etc. Manual laboring is a requirement for such feats. The "blue collar" worker should be one of the most revered positions in a country like ours. Somehow somewhere along the line that view was skewed and the people who truly work hard are rewarded with attitudes like yours.
This phenomenon has been labelled by economists as Schumpeterian creative destruction. This disequilibrium that is created is painful and can last years, but we all benefit in the long run, as goods and services are created more efficiently leading to lower prices and hence higher standards of living - provided that the labor pool is willing to look for work in more valuable areas
I disagree, I've seen none of the evidence above. I'd rather not operate on your opinion but rather look at the present and factual evidence making proper correlation based on such a present analysis. C
I'm not a traditional "Christian" and I don't follow the Bible literally. That would make me a fool. I do believe in god, I do believe in several simple messages from every bible. Those messages are the ones I've said above.
I don't care about all the other "lessons" or stories, morals, etc. They are entirely irrelevant to live what I believe is virtuous and righteous lifestyle.
Contradiction would be believing in what I believe and fleeing from that belief when it becomes tested. I'm not one of those people. The bible may be a stupid fucking book but my faith isn't in a book.
That is the whole point.
You know.. it's clear to me that America truly isn't a place of freedom anymore. It's more free than other places but this country is looking more oligarchy everyday. Wonder how long it can last until some fresh blood needs to be spilled.
I'm Christian, i'm male, i'm straight, i'm black, i'm American. I don't give a shit if two males or two females want to marry. Not my business and if god has a problem with it. Let god do the judging, i'm too busy trying to survive.
What really gets me is that regardless of religion. If you can't follow the simple commandments and rationalize them on the basis of your own ideology. How fucking faithful and true to your religion are you? "Love thy neighbhor? Yeah.. only if they aren't gay."
You fucking hypocrites, the same book you live by talks about people like you. The same book talks about praising false idols (ie: the pope). I mean, even before the new ones burial plot could sink people are already over their mourning and cheering a new pope and for what?! Religious leadership? You need a leader to talk to your god, to steer you to holiness?
You "religious" people disgust me. Stop walking around in the dark or you'll be left in the dark. How about you all take a minute and re-read the bible? Any bible, any religion. You don't have to get far to see the message.
Treat people the way you want to be treated, love thy neighbor.. You don't need a church, wherever two or more gather. I'll be there.
I mean jesus christ.. seriously.. JESUS CHRIST.. help these people.
I take the A/C Line everyday to work. A central switch system center caught fire and service has been even more horrid since the incident. I've also noticed an increase in vermin and general subway disrepair everywhere I look. Other lines are even worst. When I occasionally have to transfer to the 4/5 they have brand new trains but they are so slim line that it's not just cramped but hard to even stand.
Then I read about this computer system somewhere and I looked at the increase in fare i've been paying and i've gotta wonder to myself?
WHAT THE FUCK IS THE MTA DOING? If you live in NYC the subway is the worst part of your day.. That and the Starbuck lids.
So you made a choice of operating system based on that? Brilliant.
Maybe you should have made that up in retrospect.
That is all there is to say. Being free and forcing free are two different things. One is actually free and the other isn't.
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If GPL 3.0 implements this silly idea then it certainly will be killing itself off at present. The altruistic idea of forcing all code into the open into todays unethical commune is silly. It will put the good guys, the guys who play fair in a bad position and the corporations and businesses who don't in a golden position.
The idea in and of itself is the holy grail but it would be at the expense of the good guys. Where's the gain; for anyone, except for people opposed to opensource in the first place?
My mom always told me there are some people who are so blinded by altruism that they don't realize they are being stupid. They don't see that they've already accomplished their goal so they walk to the end and lose. I've seen it happen a couple of times. It'd be hard for me to see it happen here.
Wow i'm shocked to even have read that. Guess the end times are near
No, Criticism is a valid form of response. In opensource you will be criticized, and usually harshly. Developers, Users, etc all put up with it. Read the mailing list on a random opensource project and you'll see it.
Constructive criticism is good, it's what produces quality in opensource. It's what keeps it viable and useful. Useless criticism is just that, useless. It provides nothing and should not affect the one on the receiving end. It simply adds or contributes nothing in any form or fashion.
That is the difference. When you learn from constructive criticism you not only grow stronger but you may gain an ally. I've experienced it myself and the learning experience has been golden.
To my knowledge, when I was a teenager 10 or so years ago I did alot of criticizing. Still do, nothings changed, so i'll most likely go to the grave bitching, guns loaded and all. IMHO we need more people with constructive criticism. If history is any marker in this industry at least, opensource is where most of it happens. In public open forums no less.
As an analyst, I'd say her work (that I've read) is usually solid. I don't agree with all her conclusions, but remember - her job is to figure out what mainstream business is doing and is interested in. It's not to rave about one platform or another. And since mainstream business is on Windows, converting would incur costs and complications that don't exist if they stay on Windows. Some companies would save money by moving to Linux - some would not. Sometimes it's worth it for a business. Sometimes it's not. And sometimes she's spot-on - sometimes she's not.
I can understand that you might want to respect a previous relationship with a person based on that personal experience and basis. That is fair and respectful of that relationship and experience. It's the stand up thing to do and is simple common courtesy.
However, professionally there is nothing you can say to backup the above statement. It doesn't only tarnish my opinion of you. Which is of no matter in this topic but it also makes me believe you to be a troll of enormous proportion. I don't know you but I do know Laura Didio the analyst through what she has written.
Laura Didio has consistently been wrong, again and again. There is nothing wrong with being wrong, unless your job is that of an analyst. When those analysis are clearly wrong, consistently. Including being misleading, or outright blatant lies, people become vehement.
Would you not be angry if your stock analyst told you to "Strong buy" SCO stock? What happens if he or she repeatedly gave you incorrect information or even lied to you? You'd expect for them to be hastily terminated or you would look elsewhere. You'll also be sure to warn others not to associate or take information from said analyst because they've burned you before.
Do you expect no less from people who base business decision on what she might have reported?
I'm not saying that the flames in their extreme degrees are deserved, or, people calling her house at 11pm is appropriate. It is clearly digusting behavior that isn't necessary. However, why should anyone feel empathy for Laura Didio? Shes lied, shes been wrong and she simply continues on with no regard for the analysis she provides. This, for the same people who are to trust the analysis.
I respect your opinion regarding this situation and your note of courtesy. This, however isn't a matter of courtesy. It's a matter of truth.
The truth is, shes a horrible analyst, a liar and people are right to be angry. She continues to exhibit this behavior, again, with no regard at all for the truth.
Seriously, this is so void of legible response that it makes it painful to read.
Your conceptions are clearly misguided on the basis that you seem to not know what you are talking about.
This is obviously not a jab at you personally or professionally. I'm sure you are extremely qualified and good at whatever it is that you do.
However, you are clearly lost. Bill Gates personal life and his business acumen and behavior are two completely different things. Praising the man for his general charity doesn't expound to his or the companies he works for behavior in the computing industry. Please learn to seperate the two. That said you would do yourself good to try other operating systems.
Hosting via Windows is russian roulette. I say this because i've done the real life test myself. I'm no windows professional. Infact, in Dec of 1994 I stopped using windows when an OS/2 warp disk of mine died and an IBM engineer at the time gave me a copy of linux. There are so many black magic items in Windows that it would take an increasing amount of time for me to learn them all. Windows isn't easy to learn, it's easy to click alot of buttons and try to get it working but that doesn't enable me to understand what is going on or what is happening with my computer.
This has lead me to believe that windows administrators simply don't care about their systems enough to know how they work. They just want a patch or a quick fix or to press a couple of buttons and reboot. I've even extended myself to try and find a good windows administrator to learn from. I hate windows, but I'm clearly trying to understand where the low cost TCO and ease of use come from. If anyone is willing to help with this please feel free to contact me.
The documentation via Microsoft is often incorrect or not detailed. In most cases the behavior exhibited isn't what the documentation is really for and/or there are completely missing chunks of steps via documentation. An example of this would be smartcards. In Unix land, these problems are mitigated by having the source. Also, man pages usually are exacting, so my questions are answered. This isn't available via windows.
I switched over a heavily trafficed site to Windows based on contract purposes and it crashed, repeatedly. Why? I'm still amiss as to why. There was simply no way to fix this. Microsoft said they would look into this and I'm not sure if they ever did. My caring well ran dry way before that. I took the same site and put it on a Solaris box, that was in 2001. I haven't touched it since. It's still running from the time I powered it on, this is about 3 years and 9 months later.
So my experience with Microsoft has been the complete opposite. I'm not sure they've made a positive difference in the computing industry. Even with the low cost of hardware which can be traced back to hardware manufacturers and competition. Microsoft hasn't provided software that changes people lives or allows for general productivity in the work place. Computers are to be aids, tools to real life work. Has Microsoft changed my life or allowed me to be productive? To date, no, they've allowed me to be less productive. To get less work done. I spend more time fiddling with windows machines than trying to work on new interesting things. It annoys me.
In comparison, if I put a unix box up to do something. I walk away, and usually I don't come back. I go on to other things.
Unix/Linux/Open Source allows me to learn to enable productivity. It allows me to get my job done and go home and enjoy other things.
general jokster. In all honesty, who really cares what she has to say? Or for that matter, anything else coming from the Yankee Group in general. It's all joke, smoke and mirrors stuff.
You know what would be a good idea. A bunch of geeks getting together with a bunch of researchers in their respective fields. Creating honest, non-biased "this is the way it is" anaylsis and reports on TCO/Software/Hardware/etc. Sort of like Consumer Reports(tm) but with more detail and analysis of specific topics.
Laura Didio? Whatever.. If I want to run my business or anyone elses into the ground; I'll take her advice. Until then, I won't even pretend to RTFA.
No, it's not an entirely different matter. You're data is being routed through the hospital. It belongs and is in filing cabinets and areas that do not belong to you. You don't give up your privacy to your data though.
Just because you let others data pass through on your router (which I'd suspect would have to be at a major backbone somewhere for the sake of your example) doesn't mean you have the right to inspect that data. If you don't like that, shutdown your router. ISP's don't have the right, and unless you have a bonafied warrant neither do you.
As I will make it a point to keep my private data; private. By either encrypting those packets being sent over your router or by taking the appropriate steps to ensure my privacy.
This is my right granted to me as a citizen of the US. Maybe you live in a different country, in which case your view point would be understandable. If you're a US citizen; you're embarassing.
You are making absolutely no sense. The right to privacy doesn't only extend to your silly property succinct. Should I have the right to your medical records because i'm an employee at the hospital? Should I have the right to your credit record because I work for the waste removal company on behalf of the credit bureau?
Privacy isn't somehow bound by property only. It's based on the fact that somethings are private. IE: Between one person and another.
Your post isn't what will make you unpopular it's the fact that like most people nowadays you are willing to give up your rights to privacy based on such silly notions. Believing in all actuality that you are somehow taking the dry reasonable ground. When infact you are enslaving yourself and smiling at the same time.
All people like me can do is scratch our heads in amazement.
Yes..
True, how I forgot about wine I don't know.. The only major difference I can see here is that Mono is a compiler implementation based on a standard. Wine works at being compatible by replacing the native api through dll's. Never thought about it like that.
Doesn't matter though. I still don't trust Microsoft.
Made it real hard for all the terrorist who have hijacked airplanes in the last 20 years; real hard. So hard infact, the latest round of attacks involved them training to become pilots with id.
You prevent terrorism, not by doing a couple dozen stupid things but by making security an open process.
How does having to show id make it harder to accomplish terrorist goals? Name one instance where a terrorist having to show id stopped them from doing things of terrorist like nature.
Seriously.. People like you scare me.
Name for me one instance where someone has implemented an implementation of Microsoft's API?
1. The entire OS will be accessible through a set of managed APIs. This makes coding 10 times easier and faster, and raises productivity to unprecedented levels. This also makes buffer overflows and some other security issues a thing of the past.
.NET code on your machine. Kind of like applets, but the entire webapp will be built out of them. Just think about the possibilities there.
"Managed APIs". I can see where this is going already.
2. New, resolution independent, vector based, GPU-enabled UI engine. Two years from Longhorn release people will be buying 200+ DPI displays because things look a lot better on them. What's KDE/Gnome users gonna do? That's right, try to discern tiny non-scalable icons on these displays.
Gnome/KDE already support SVG. So gnome/kde have scalable fonts/icons.. right now, today. Not only that but work is already being done in this respect http://cairographics.org/introduction.
3. Completely new UI, including some significant paradigm changes.
PARA DIG EM! Yeah.. when I wanna be wowed by UI i'll use Enlightenement or OSX. Suprisingly nothing from Microsoft has ever impressed me in that department. I mean, the screenshots I've seen of gnome/kde/enlightenment/osx/xfce. Microsoft needs to hire new UI designers.. I mean, seriously.
4. Seamless integration of client and server side (that's what XAML is all about, IMHO). Your webapps will actually run sandboxed
Mozilla and XML. Thats what Mozilla is all about. Your webapps will actually run regular ole XML on your machine. Kind of like google mail, but the entire webapp will be built out of them. I'm living in the present by the way.. Just incase you were wondering.
5. Reliable Web Services - Indigo, web services that don't suck. More importantly, web service protocol that's supported by the majority of computers in the world (when most people upgrade). And you can bet your ass they will upgrade, just like a couple of years after W95 was released almost everyone ran W95.
Reliable Web Services? Web service protocol? So whats that called? HTMP? is that going to be ontop of HTTP? Making it more reliable and supported worldwide (after everyone switches from HTTP). Bet my ass i'll upgrade for a protocol, just like when I upgraded for ftp!
It's time to stop copying Windows XP, folks. It's time to start copying Longhorn. Gnome devs have already realised that.
What you say?! Stop copying XP and start copying Longhorn?! Why my lad, you can't copy what doesn't exist.
Seriously though, I hate Microsoft and if they had anything genuinely original coming out in Longhorn i'd probably be interested. Especially if it's good technology. To date, i'm hearing about stuff people have either already implemented or wrote about. Things that have been discussed by numerous people over the years. The innovation isn't happening at Microsoft, it's happening elsewhere. It's not even an attractive company to work for nowadays and i'd be hard pressed to say they've ever invented anything original.
I mean, if I wanted to do original shit i'd have to go to work for anyone other than Microsoft.
Who cares about what Gartner has to say? Do they write the code? They've never had a complete anaylsis on one subject either way. They look for trends, spit out some numbers, throw that shit into a report and release.
The problem with "standards" and geeks and all this in between middle man shit is that until you start learning to speak business lingo you are essentially screwed. Many times I've seen excellent technology and ideas get pushed to the side because a person lacked the skill, finese and communication skills to get their point across. Many a time i've seen NT replace *nix because someone was either too afraid to say something or they simply lacked any sort of finese.
I've seen good people, people who know better support proprietary formats/"standards" when there was simply no need for it. Why? Lack of communication, fear of reprisal and general stupidity.
Here are some rules. You're dumbass manager or IT director who knows jack shit got to where he or she is because they possess the skill that you don't. It's nothing special. That skill is communication. Here are some rules you can follow.
1. When you are going to present something technical. EG: Standards, formats, proposal as to why your company should switch to Firefox. Don't become religious. Drop a couple of points, maybe test the waters and try to get a few people to switch. If they don't want to, no problem. You're also going to need to write a report, something better than a Gartner analysis about all of the good and bad involved and don't try to sugarcoat any of it. You'll address all of the good points and assess the bad points for response. You must make sure to research your competition thoroughly and make it a point to know major flaws in your competition.
2. This is business, Firefox is free, this is an easy selling point, but IE is free too. You don't want to say the word "free". You want to say "the cost is going to be lower than what we currently spend in supporting "X" product by "X" percentage allowing my department to save "X" in cost annually while increasing productivity and allowing for resources to be better utilized in other critical areas.
3. Never underestimate your competition. If you have some Microsoft lover salivating at the chance to shoot you down by screaming at the top of their lungs. Let them, you; you keep your composure. Be sophiscated and knowledgable, able to refute point for point why "X" is a better product and why it would fit in your company.
4. Do this infront of people who matter. Your boss, if Microsoft lover will try and impede by shrugging it off or saying there is no time for this etc. Respectfully disagree, and shoot off your report to his/her boss. Make sure you CC him/her and also make sure that you state you discussed this with him/her and respectfully disagreed. However, because you've put effort into this you'd like another opinion. You're doing this because you think it could help your company save money, it's important to you because it will help you to concentrate more on your job and less on things that are permitting your company to waste revenue. You'd like to see things running smoothly and efficiently, lowering costs. As we are all aware, IT hardware/software is extremely expensive. You're looking for the greatest return for what is going to be spent. It's about how IT is valued in this company and you would like to take a serious look at your proposal maybe in a meeting or presentation etc. Even though I've discussed this with my boss it's important for me to give this another chance. etc
5. Have a plan. Fully vetted. Assess your situation and know your enemies, make them your friends and keep them as happy as possible. If they support you then your battle is already won. If you get the go ahead for the presentation or meeting. Have it already prepared, be ready to run with it at a moments notice. You don't want your competition to have any time to get a report/presentation or meeting together in place of yours. If you're asked if yo
Then i'm not missing the point, what you are saying is that honest customers will go buy the game instead of downloading it. Yes, instead of downloading 3 to 4 gigs on your cable modem which would take maybe take 4-5 hours; you go and buy the game. 10 gigs? Start the download, go to work, come home. 20 gigs? Start the download Friday night, go party over the weekend. 100 gigs? Throw the download into the background and come back in 3-5 days.
Which should also reinforce the point that increasing texture size will not stop piracy. Honest customers just go and buy the game. Yes, that is the way it works.
Yes it is as silly as it sounds. Gigs of data on a cable modem is nothing. The size of a file has never stopped piracy, you're just speaking in complete jest with no factual data to back your statement beyond the silly comment itself.
Gigs of data is nothing to a "pirate". They have terrabytes full of data trade in 24 hours nowadays. You think a 3-4 gig download is gonna stop someone from downloading software?
How long do you think it takes to download a gig on a cable modem?
Seriously, you aren't making a lot of sense. The people who pirate Half-Life 2 ARE ENJOYING the game they did not pay for.
The people who PAID for Half-Life 2 CANNOT PLAY. As the original parent said he's just going to be a smart consumer. What, are you asking him to go buy another copy of the game to try and get it working? Maybe buy Half-Life 3 and pray it works?
100% of the time people who pirate the software weren't going to buy it anyway. For the consumer who realizes it's easier to pirate than to buy a valid copy this is what will happen. Customers who want to buy copies of the game legally will turn to piracy. Why? Simply because it's easier and they won't have to put up with the bullshit.
Before DRM how did Valve make money? Can you get a clue? Here are ways Valve can make money besides DRM, offer a trinket with the boxed copy. Offer gold disc editions. Put random freebies in boxed copies. Press a few of the CD's with graphically signed copies from the coders who sweated over the game; throw them into random boxes. Put posters in the boxes, put random easter eggs in the program that reward verified boxed copies. Throw in 500 copies of rebates into a box which would essentially make the game free for those respective parties. One could go on and on. All of it would make their current fan base more loyal and low and behold doesn't involve any DRM. Not only that but because of the loyal fan base and freebies/goodies to be had fans may buy more than one copy. It's simply good business all around. The "pirates" are still going to steal the game. So you end up with a fiercely loyal fan base, happy customers and you can concentrate on making your next game even better. All for a couple of trinkets which probably amount to 10 times less that was spent on the stupid DRM system. When you treat your customers with respect and like law abiding citizens. Guess what? They come back, not only do they come back but hell, they'll extend thesmelves for you when you need it. They'll buy that extra cookie, or come into the shop with a couple of friends. In some instances they'll only buy whatever product from you and you alone. When you treat them like criminals, they'll act like criminals.
So will the parent pirate Half-Life 3? According to Valve; he is already a thief. However, as the consumer, Valve took his money, promised him service and that service is no where to be found. Someone here is the pirate and it's not the honest customer above who put down coin for the game.
If you were stolen from, you'd be upset too. Right?