No - Streambox VCR's phone home thing triggered only on first-run, and was used to count the # of beta-testers. Enter a real email and it would add you to the beta test mailing list. Edit yer registry instead, and it would never phone home for that first time. Streambox Ripper did/does same thing.
Also, (not your message) it never converted from rm to mpeg, only lets you download pnm, rtsp, and mms streams of whatever is streaming. very cool.
finally, the great streambox vcr underground site seems to be down, but some half-ass mirrors exist here and there-- google for vcr underground and streambox vcr underground if you want the program and cracks.
On the one hand, I agreed with many of your assessments. On the other, I just wanted to point out my own.
My main point, which I did not emphasize that well, was that once things do flare up, it is not easy to go back - perhaps impossible.
Here in the USA, things have flared up.
. As you mentioned, before the latest incident, when you were there, things were great and hopeful. People saw the potential for peace. Jews and Arabs (that you came across) did not hate eachother. Since then, things have changed. And I submit that the fear of the other race was always there, just hidden.
This was why I mentioned the anti-arab sentiment here in the states. A few weeks ago, I would have been really surprised to see customers at the local 7-11 screaming at the asian(!) guy behind the counter who was speaking in (i dunno, mandarin or something) to "speak english in america, or go back to your fucking country!" I would have been surprised to hear about muslims being killed. I wasn't so surprised yesterday.
My point again: One path to go down at this point is the one the Israeli's went down. I do not look at this as a good example. I do not want to be in Mexico with my girlfriend, writing on/. about the terrorist troubles in certain hectic places in the US, and how I hope she never goes back to America.
I am not an Israeli citizen, but spent a few weeks in Israel last october, visiting my brother who was studying at university in jerusalem for a year. So this is just a quick tourist take on your interesting points.
A couple things:
1) You didn't mention it, but I can pretty well guarantee you didn't pass through customs fitting the profile of 'single male arab, travelling alone'. What I mean is, you have a lot of freedoms in this kind if setup, if you don't fit a certain profile.
Point: Look at number of attacks on anyone the local (US) idiots think might be arab (eg my girlfriends jamaican professor was verbally attacked yesterday by someone who thought he was the devil/pakistanian).
2) One thing you may have noticed in Israel was the degree of freedom you had, but one thing I noticed was that while walking from my brothers apt. to his girlfriends place in the Old City (Jerusalem) 3 times in two weeks we were stopped and shielded by local police while they checked out potential bomb threats.
3) Feeling free is nice. But that TINY country spends an INCREDIBLE amount of energy trying to stop terrorist bombings, and they FAIL. How do you think that will work out here? Do you see every other bus you take here in the states having multiple army soldiers on it, let alone multiple undercover intelligence agents?
And assuming this would work as well as it does in Israel (quite well - they only get bombed bi-weekly instead of daily), how do you think our citizens would react towards arabs or whoever's race they thought might be behind the bi-weekly bombings?
You can look at Israel as an example of how to conduct security without impinging unduly on (insert one race/creed) people's rights, but I look at it as an example of how to exacerbate problems until you're stuck in a situation where everyone wants to kill their neighbors (even though their beliefs are very similar).
But I am not so hopeful.
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I am not an Israeli citizen, but spent a few weeks in Israel last october, visiting my brother who was studying at university in jerusalem for a year. So this is just a quick tourist take on your interesting points.
A couple things:
1) You didn't mention it, but I can pretty well guarantee you didn't pass through customs fitting the profile of 'single male arab, travelling alone'. What I mean is, you have a lot of freedoms in this kind if setup, if you don't fit a certain profile.
Point: Look at number of attacks on anyone the local (US) idiots think might be arab (eg my girlfriends jamaican professor was verbally attacked yesterday by someone who thought he was the devil/pakistanian).
2) One thing you may have noticed in Israel was the degree of freedom you had, but one thing I noticed was that while walking from my brothers apt. to his girlfriends place in the Old City (Jerusalem) 3 times in two weeks we were stopped and shielded by local police while they checked out potential bomb threats.
3) Feeling free is nice. But that TINY country spends an INCREDIBLE amount of energy trying to stop terrorist bombings, and they FAIL. How do you think that will work out here? Do you see every other bus you take here in the states having multiple army soldiers on it, let alone multiple undercover intelligence agents?
And assuming this would work as well as it does in Israel (quite well - they only get bombed bi-weekly instead of daily), how do you think our citizens would react towards arabs or whoever's race they thought might be behind the bi-weekly bombings?
You can look at Israel as an example of how to conduct security without impinging unduly on (insert one race/creed) people's rights, but I look at it as an example of how to exacerbate problems until you're stuck in a situation where everyone wants to kill their neighbors (even though their beliefs are very similar).
The purpose of terrorism is to strike terror and fear of further attacks in the minds of those targeted. That goal has backfired. Government leaders are calling for retribution, the public is clamoring for blood...
Having spent some time last year visiting my brother who was living in Israel,I would have to disagree.
First off, there are many reasons for terrorism, and who knows exactly what these people wanted as an outcome.
Secondly, people usually clamor for blood when they are afraid of what might happen if they don't (that's often the point of war, our justice system, and all retribution in general).
Third, look again at Israel - a country that deals all the time with terrorism. On their TV and other media they constantly replay the footage and latest attack news, and they constantly clamor for more blood, and they are constantly afraid of more terror and further attacks. How does this point to the terror attack here having backfired?
Just because our leaders are calling for retribution, and the people want to kill those who did it, does not mean we are doing anything unexpected from those who masterminded this tragedy.
True, I think most Americans are now clamoring for blood along with the politicians, but how in any way does that make us unafraid of more attacks? How does that make their intent a backfired one?
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No - Streambox VCR's phone home thing triggered only on first-run, and was used to count the # of beta-testers. Enter a real email and it would add you to the beta test mailing list. Edit yer registry instead, and it would never phone home for that first time. Streambox Ripper did/does same thing.
Also, (not your message) it never converted from rm to mpeg, only lets you download pnm, rtsp, and mms streams of whatever is streaming. very cool.
finally, the great streambox vcr underground site seems to be down, but some half-ass mirrors exist here and there-- google for vcr underground and streambox vcr underground if you want the program and cracks.
Scott,
/. about the terrorist troubles in certain hectic places in the US, and how I hope she never goes back to America.
On the one hand, I agreed with many of your assessments. On the other, I just wanted to point out my own.
My main point, which I did not emphasize that well, was that once things do flare up, it is not easy to go back - perhaps impossible.
Here in the USA, things have flared up.
. As you mentioned, before the latest incident, when you were there, things were great and hopeful. People saw the potential for peace. Jews and Arabs (that you came across) did not hate eachother. Since then, things have changed. And I submit that the fear of the other race was always there, just hidden.
This was why I mentioned the anti-arab sentiment here in the states. A few weeks ago, I would have been really surprised to see customers at the local 7-11 screaming at the asian(!) guy behind the counter who was speaking in (i dunno, mandarin or something) to "speak english in america, or go back to your fucking country!" I would have been surprised to hear about muslims being killed. I wasn't so surprised yesterday.
My point again: One path to go down at this point is the one the Israeli's went down. I do not look at this as a good example. I do not want to be in Mexico with my girlfriend, writing on
I am not an Israeli citizen, but spent a few weeks in Israel last october, visiting my brother who was studying at university in jerusalem for a year. So this is just a quick tourist take on your interesting points.
A couple things:
1) You didn't mention it, but I can pretty well guarantee you didn't pass through customs fitting the profile of 'single male arab, travelling alone'. What I mean is, you have a lot of freedoms in this kind if setup, if you don't fit a certain profile.
Point: Look at number of attacks on anyone the local (US) idiots think might be arab (eg my girlfriends jamaican professor was verbally attacked yesterday by someone who thought he was the devil/pakistanian).
2) One thing you may have noticed in Israel was the degree of freedom you had, but one thing I noticed was that while walking from my brothers apt. to his girlfriends place in the Old City (Jerusalem) 3 times in two weeks we were stopped and shielded by local police while they checked out potential bomb threats.
3) Feeling free is nice. But that TINY country spends an INCREDIBLE amount of energy trying to stop terrorist bombings, and they FAIL. How do you think that will work out here? Do you see every other bus you take here in the states having multiple army soldiers on it, let alone multiple undercover intelligence agents?
And assuming this would work as well as it does in Israel (quite well - they only get bombed bi-weekly instead of daily), how do you think our citizens would react towards arabs or whoever's race they thought might be behind the bi-weekly bombings?
You can look at Israel as an example of how to conduct security without impinging unduly on (insert one race/creed) people's rights, but I look at it as an example of how to exacerbate problems until you're stuck in a situation where everyone wants to kill their neighbors (even though their beliefs are very similar).
But I am not so hopeful.
I am not an Israeli citizen, but spent a few weeks in Israel last october, visiting my brother who was studying at university in jerusalem for a year. So this is just a quick tourist take on your interesting points.
A couple things:
1) You didn't mention it, but I can pretty well guarantee you didn't pass through customs fitting the profile of 'single male arab, travelling alone'. What I mean is, you have a lot of freedoms in this kind if setup, if you don't fit a certain profile.
Point: Look at number of attacks on anyone the local (US) idiots think might be arab (eg my girlfriends jamaican professor was verbally attacked yesterday by someone who thought he was the devil/pakistanian).
2) One thing you may have noticed in Israel was the degree of freedom you had, but one thing I noticed was that while walking from my brothers apt. to his girlfriends place in the Old City (Jerusalem) 3 times in two weeks we were stopped and shielded by local police while they checked out potential bomb threats. 3) Feeling free is nice. But that TINY country spends an INCREDIBLE amount of energy trying to stop terrorist bombings, and they FAIL. How do you think that will work out here? Do you see every other bus you take here in the states having multiple army soldiers on it, let alone multiple undercover intelligence agents?
And assuming this would work as well as it does in Israel (quite well - they only get bombed bi-weekly instead of daily), how do you think our citizens would react towards arabs or whoever's race they thought might be behind the bi-weekly bombings?
You can look at Israel as an example of how to conduct security without impinging unduly on (insert one race/creed) people's rights, but I look at it as an example of how to exacerbate problems until you're stuck in a situation where everyone wants to kill their neighbors (even though their beliefs are very similar).
The purpose of terrorism is to strike terror and fear of further attacks in the minds of those targeted. That goal has backfired. Government leaders are calling for retribution, the public is clamoring for blood...
Having spent some time last year visiting my brother who was living in Israel,I would have to disagree.
First off, there are many reasons for terrorism, and who knows exactly what these people wanted as an outcome.
Secondly, people usually clamor for blood when they are afraid of what might happen if they don't (that's often the point of war, our justice system, and all retribution in general).
Third, look again at Israel - a country that deals all the time with terrorism. On their TV and other media they constantly replay the footage and latest attack news, and they constantly clamor for more blood, and they are constantly afraid of more terror and further attacks. How does this point to the terror attack here having backfired? Just because our leaders are calling for retribution, and the people want to kill those who did it, does not mean we are doing anything unexpected from those who masterminded this tragedy.
True, I think most Americans are now clamoring for blood along with the politicians, but how in any way does that make us unafraid of more attacks? How does that make their intent a backfired one?