If it locks for 20 seconds without cpu usage... sounds like a hardware problem, one of my linux boxes used to do that, but reading the dmesg log showed a disk problem and the 20 seconds pause was while it reset the scsi bus.. As for a dual cpu box appearing faster than a single, thats normal.. theres less latency with multiple cpus, even if the cpus are slower.
Thousands of registers might make batch processing faster.. but it would make context switching (switching between different processes) very slow... you`d effectively be building a machine that could do one thing at a time very quickly, but the performance increase wouldn`t be worth the difficulty of implementing it like this.. I can imagine certain ASICs having large sets of registers, for tasks where it`s appropriate.
No, there was no 64bit version of NT.. Altho it did run on a 64bit processor (Alpha) it used what DEC called "taso" which emulates 32bit pointers and address space. sizeof(int) is 4 on virtually every unix platform, including 64bit ones... sizeof(long) is usually 8 on 64bit platforms (atleast solaris, digital unix, irix and linux/alpha) and 4 on 32bit platforms
However a lot of linux drivers are 64bit clean, and have long worked on 64bit Alpha, PPC and Sparc machines running Linux.. Many PCI nic and scsidrivers for instance work flawlessly across different architectures including 64bit ones. I myself have an Alphastation with a number of pci cards using drivers intended for 32bit x86 machines, which work perfectly well.
What`s more, 64bit windows is something new, so your far more likely to encounter non 64bit clean code in windows apps, Contrast this to unix apps.. where 64bit systems have been available for years and so a majority of programs can already compile cleanly on a 64bit platform.
SSL benchmarks really benefit from 64bit platforms, my 6yr old alphastation still runs very well on those benchmarks... On a side note, openssh on solaris doesn`t like being compiled as 64bit, it screws up the wtmp logging for some reason
Windows NT has always been a 32bit platform however, even the version for the alpha processor used hacks to make the processor appear to be a 32bit one, the alpha, like the itanium, is a 64bit design from the ground up and has no 32bit compatibility mode atall, however it can emulate 32bit x86 and 32bit vax in software. Linux on amd64 doesn`t need to emulate 32bit x86, since the amd64 architecture can execute 32bit x86 code natively. However alpha linux can emulate 32bit x86 code with a tool called em86 Aside from that, the grandparent poster is correct, linux is far more mature as a 64bit platform... linux has been 64bit on the alpha for years, ultrasparc too but not quite so long, and i believe there are 64bit mips and ppc ports too.
buy an sgi indy for $5 from ebay, similar hardware... the n64 devkit ran on the indy.. but you can have way more ram and an hd, and when you get bored of linux you can always try netbsd or irix.
True, drives are unreliable.. especially low end ones, but if your willing to pay the premium for flash ram.. why not consider premium drives (read: SCSI) and redundancy systems such as raid
A few minutes? consider that people still running 2.0.x kernels are likely to be running them on very old hardware, and a few minutes becomes a few hours.
It works fine, i can even paste into a web browser like this one, and its much easier than windows or macos... i just select the text with the mouse and hit the middle button to paste it.
www.ipv6.digital.com has been up since 1996, i dont think its up anymore since they moved their websites to the hp servers... altavista was made available via ipv6 around the same time too
DEC hardware, like the personal workstation series has padding on edges to help prevent vibration, and large fans with plastic guides to guide the airflow over the important components. I imagine a lot of other higher end hardware is like this, it`s only really on the cheaper x86 machines that manufacturers cut back on nice little touches like this to reduce cost.
that all you fucking Intel fanboys can suck my third testicle. If you're too cheap to buy CRAY, then you're too cheap to buy good memory and fast disk arrays, so you whine and complain when your crappy hardware craps out on you. My Cray X1 with 4096 CPUs and 65536 gig of RAM will stomp on anything you cheap bastards can build with Intel shit. You think your so hot with your 32bit 3ghz processor when you dont realise that any system with less than 128 cpus is just a joke.
But, atleast if you buy a quality pre-assembled system, care will have been taken towards build quality and airflow within the case, not so with a collection of parts, unless you want to spend all week looking through different combinations of cases , fans and motherboards to find one where the air flows properly and the cpu isnt stuck in a hot poorly ventilated corner with a small fan recirculating the hot air back onto it, or with components sitting above the fan and restricting airflow.. I HATE fans that just blow down onto the cpu, i would much prefer a flow of air in the front, over the cpu and out the back.. i dont want some little fan recirculating the hot air back onto the cpu..
Solaris 2.5.1 was also available for PPC, but sun dropped support for it after that 1 version, it would be nice to get a copy and a machine to run it on tho... So anyone selling one, feel free to reply
And Intel chips are consequently more expensive, if you want rock solid reliability you dont buy intel tho, you buy DEC, SUN, IBM or HP.. proper server-class chips that are rock solid. Infact, most of these chips dont have tiny little fans blowing down on the cpu, they have larger fans (bigger fans are more reliable) generating a flow of fresh air into the case, over the cpu and out again
Indeed, Amiga had that problem too, a lot of games designed for the 68000 based A500 used the upper 8 bits of the address registers to store other data, and this resulted in a crash on a 68020 cpu such as that found in the A1200, even tho it was the stripped down 'EC' version which could only address 16mb of ram, it still had 32bit addressing. However, you were violating Commodore and Motorola's programming guidelines if you did this, properly written software worked all the way up to the 68060
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If it locks for 20 seconds without cpu usage... sounds like a hardware problem, one of my linux boxes used to do that, but reading the dmesg log showed a disk problem and the 20 seconds pause was while it reset the scsi bus..
As for a dual cpu box appearing faster than a single, thats normal.. theres less latency with multiple cpus, even if the cpus are slower.
Thousands of registers might make batch processing faster.. but it would make context switching (switching between different processes) very slow...
you`d effectively be building a machine that could do one thing at a time very quickly, but the performance increase wouldn`t be worth the difficulty of implementing it like this..
I can imagine certain ASICs having large sets of registers, for tasks where it`s appropriate.
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No, there was no 64bit version of NT.. Altho it did run on a 64bit processor (Alpha) it used what DEC called "taso" which emulates 32bit pointers and address space.
sizeof(int) is 4 on virtually every unix platform, including 64bit ones... sizeof(long) is usually 8 on 64bit platforms (atleast solaris, digital unix, irix and linux/alpha) and 4 on 32bit platforms
However a lot of linux drivers are 64bit clean, and have long worked on 64bit Alpha, PPC and Sparc machines running Linux.. Many PCI nic and scsidrivers for instance work flawlessly across different architectures including 64bit ones.
I myself have an Alphastation with a number of pci cards using drivers intended for 32bit x86 machines, which work perfectly well.
What`s more, 64bit windows is something new, so your far more likely to encounter non 64bit clean code in windows apps, Contrast this to unix apps.. where 64bit systems have been available for years and so a majority of programs can already compile cleanly on a 64bit platform.
SSL benchmarks really benefit from 64bit platforms, my 6yr old alphastation still runs very well on those benchmarks...
On a side note, openssh on solaris doesn`t like being compiled as 64bit, it screws up the wtmp logging for some reason
Windows NT has always been a 32bit platform however, even the version for the alpha processor used hacks to make the processor appear to be a 32bit one, the alpha, like the itanium, is a 64bit design from the ground up and has no 32bit compatibility mode atall, however it can emulate 32bit x86 and 32bit vax in software.
Linux on amd64 doesn`t need to emulate 32bit x86, since the amd64 architecture can execute 32bit x86 code natively. However alpha linux can emulate 32bit x86 code with a tool called em86
Aside from that, the grandparent poster is correct, linux is far more mature as a 64bit platform... linux has been 64bit on the alpha for years, ultrasparc too but not quite so long, and i believe there are 64bit mips and ppc ports too.
But if noone buys them, then only the current inventory will remain unsold... If people buy them, then they will be forced to manufacture more.
buy an sgi indy for $5 from ebay, similar hardware... the n64 devkit ran on the indy..
but you can have way more ram and an hd, and when you get bored of linux you can always try netbsd or irix.
True, drives are unreliable.. especially low end ones, but if your willing to pay the premium for flash ram.. why not consider premium drives (read: SCSI) and redundancy systems such as raid
A few minutes? consider that people still running 2.0.x kernels are likely to be running them on very old hardware, and a few minutes becomes a few hours.
But if they had macs, you wouldn't hear from these pseudo-friends atall.
Scenario 4: Windows 1.0 outperforms Linux 2.6 on an 8086 with 640kb ram, Linux failed to boot atall.
It works fine, i can even paste into a web browser like this one, and its much easier than windows or macos... i just select the text with the mouse and hit the middle button to paste it.
www.ipv6.digital.com has been up since 1996, i dont think its up anymore since they moved their websites to the hp servers... altavista was made available via ipv6 around the same time too
Well, i dont think you could fool anyone with monochrome copied money so theres no need to stop anyone doing it.
DEC hardware, like the personal workstation series has padding on edges to help prevent vibration, and large fans with plastic guides to guide the airflow over the important components. I imagine a lot of other higher end hardware is like this, it`s only really on the cheaper x86 machines that manufacturers cut back on nice little touches like this to reduce cost.
Alpha (despite not being developed for years) and Power are still very much competitive.
that all you fucking Intel fanboys can suck my third testicle. If you're too cheap to buy CRAY, then you're too cheap to buy good memory and fast disk arrays, so you whine and complain when your crappy hardware craps out on you.
My Cray X1 with 4096 CPUs and 65536 gig of RAM will stomp on anything you cheap bastards can build with Intel shit. You think your so hot with your 32bit 3ghz processor when you dont realise that any system with less than 128 cpus is just a joke.
But, atleast if you buy a quality pre-assembled system, care will have been taken towards build quality and airflow within the case, not so with a collection of parts, unless you want to spend all week looking through different combinations of cases , fans and motherboards to find one where the air flows properly and the cpu isnt stuck in a hot poorly ventilated corner with a small fan recirculating the hot air back onto it, or with components sitting above the fan and restricting airflow..
I HATE fans that just blow down onto the cpu, i would much prefer a flow of air in the front, over the cpu and out the back.. i dont want some little fan recirculating the hot air back onto the cpu..
Solaris 2.5.1 was also available for PPC, but sun dropped support for it after that 1 version, it would be nice to get a copy and a machine to run it on tho... So anyone selling one, feel free to reply
And Intel chips are consequently more expensive, if you want rock solid reliability you dont buy intel tho, you buy DEC, SUN, IBM or HP.. proper server-class chips that are rock solid. Infact, most of these chips dont have tiny little fans blowing down on the cpu, they have larger fans (bigger fans are more reliable) generating a flow of fresh air into the case, over the cpu and out again
Indeed, Amiga had that problem too, a lot of games designed for the 68000 based A500 used the upper 8 bits of the address registers to store other data, and this resulted in a crash on a 68020 cpu such as that found in the A1200, even tho it was the stripped down 'EC' version which could only address 16mb of ram, it still had 32bit addressing.
However, you were violating Commodore and Motorola's programming guidelines if you did this, properly written software worked all the way up to the 68060
Infact, microsoft didnt release a 32bit windows atall until well after other companies (DEC, SGI, maybe others?) had released 64bit OS's and hardware.