Nope.... It's about using extra computer resources to make sure that things work right, even when faced with someone trying to not make it work right. One part of having more CPU power is being able to use that CPU power for things that we wished we could have in the past, but couldn't because we didn't have cycles to spare - sometimes in the form of features (bloat) or sometimes in the form of stability, easier to understand code (remember, *especially* in OSS, other people will need to be able to look at your code and understand it - readable/understandable code is one of the main primaces for peer review).
As the user said, 10% slowdown on many apps isn't that big of a deal if you are spending that 10% making sure that it can't be hacked or used to spread virii. Going from 10 seconds to 11 seconds to do some task is hardly noticable. Granted, going from 200 to 220 seconds may actually be noticable, but when you get to going from 60 minutes to 66 minutes, it will probably again not be noticable (unless you have some quota to meet) because you would have planned to do other things during that time anyway and would have come back to the task when you were ready to deal with it again - often after the task had already been completed for a while.
There is a time and place to have code run at the most optimum speed possible just as there is a time and place to have code run as secure as possible. Knowing when and where for each is a part of being a programmer as opposed to just being a hack.
Computer Languages are not that difficult to learn (for me at least - YMMV). If you can understand what is going on under the hood (since you know C, I would assume that you know something of it) then it all falls out in the end. BTW: this is why I think all programmers should have to learn assembly language of some flavor. Once you understand things at that level, there is no "magic" to programming.
I programmed in C/C++ for about 15 years as well. It took me less than a week to pick up C# and Java. The framework for each itself took a little longer (two weeks to do the things I needed). I had already started being productive in writing a J2EE app within two weeks of being asked to do so (the designs were already done) after not having known what the acronym J2EE even meant.
Buy a book or find a good online reference, know how to use various search engines, draw parallels with what you have done before (not implementation-wise but design-wise), find example code to look at and run to observe, and pick a smaller/simpler section of functionality you want to implement to start with.
I don't know the order of release or anything, but I remember my 4th grade teacher getting us to read a book called "Jack's Tales" that was similar to this movie. I remember really liking the book. I haven't seen the book since =/
North Korea isn't supposed to have vehicles to reach the USA, or are they lying too?
Also, the UN has shown that it really has no power other than to kill trees (for documents).
There are lots of reasons Bush wants to remove Saddam from power, not just one.
In any case, when Saddam had an arsenal of nuclear weapons and other WMD and it was proven that he had them (at that point, there is no reason to hide them), what would you recommend doing then? What if 100% of the UN and the Security Council said that he should be removed then? Guess what... you're too late. You can't do anything then without tremendous losses.
Liberals who would rather ignore what is going on elsewhere have done as much to endanger the citizens of the USA as anyone else. I can only imagine Gore's response to the 911 attacks... probably offer Osama some money and a few bombs to not do it again.
Doesn't matter that it's Mandarin. It's second to *anyone* and this is nothing new? It's human nature to want to be #1. Why would any other nation/whatever feel any different? If you can't be #1, you want to at least be tied for #1. You also wouldn't like anyone trying to keep you from being #1.
Yes, but what you fail to also remember is that when those people had USA support, they were (maybe feigning) support for the USA. After they were helped by the USA to get into power, they decided that they got what they wanted then turned on the USA. It's not like they were always anti-USA and were helped by USA anyway.
Osama bin Laden is a good example of that. As long as the USA was giving him weapons and aid to help fight out the USSR, he was a lovey-dovey buddy of the USA. Since the USSR threat faded, he had to have someone else to hate to stay in power (or he always hated the USA but was willing to whore himself out for weapons/aid) so he turns on the USA.
What it means is that the USA needs to do better background checks before helping folks get into power.
Yes, the USA (and others) supported Saddam at one point. After he was firmly in power, he decided to turn against them all. I guess, in your opinion, we should just say "oh well, you win some and lose some" and let him continue to develop WMD. Eventually, he *will* have nuclear weapons and then what will the rest of the world do? I'd rather deal with it now than when he may have enough WMD to hurt even more civilians of other countries.
Yup... I was going to post the same thing. It's already hard as hell to sell software for Linux and other OSs that are driven by OSS as it is. People simply want it all for free and they'll either wait or write their own clone of it. The money you make in the OSS world is through support or through customization on-site.
Having this won't do anything at all. As someone else said, this thing was thought up by programmers, not businessmen.
Yep, this was my method as well. I did *all* the homework and then before each exam, I reworked *all* the homework that we were assigned since the last exam. Before the final, I reworked all the homework given since the beginning of the class. It took a bit of time but my grade was 99.8%.
First, I read the article. I'm curious to where the survey was taken... looks/sounds like it was at LinuxWorld. Now, here are some claims made that I'd like to see the numbers on.
"Even on Intel, Linux outperforms Windows."
and
"Let's say one company installs two Linux servers, but the company next door chooses five Windows servers to handle the same load."
and
"The irony here is that Windows gets an unfair market-share boost because it is inferior to Linux and requires more installations to do the same work. "
I've never seen anything supporting these claims. Post proof or simply fall into the "fanboi" bin.
First, I read the article. I'm curious to where the survey was taken... looks/sounds like it was at LinuxWorld. Now, here are some claims made that I'd like to see the numbers on.
"Even on Intel, Linux outperforms Windows."
and
"Let's say one company installs two Linux servers, but the company next door chooses five Windows servers to handle the same load."
and
"The irony here is that Windows gets an unfair market-share boost because it is inferior to Linux and requires more installations to do the same work. "
I've never seen anything supporting these claims. Post proof or simply fall into the "fanboi" bin.
From another poster:
"What's more, a lot of the UNIX/Linux UI work that is going on today *is* innovating, just not by throwing out 30 years of history. There are elements that have been absorbed from Windows, some from MacOS, some from Motif/CDE, some from NeXT, even some from mostly non-graphical "environments" like EMACS, which in turn both influenced and drew from the LISP Machines."
Hmmm.... seems your definition of "innovation" is different from mine and is more in the line of what/.ers typically accuse Microsoft of doing.
Heh, I have no problems with either PL/SQL or T-SQL. There's no magic behind either one.
My main issue is featureset. For things that we do, MySQL just won't cut it. It gets closer but as slow as some of the features are put in, I might be an old man before it can be usable for what we do.
I read VIA chipset with Geforce4Ti4800 in the first one along with the "not finalized drivers, etc" stuff.
Anyway... I agree, I think it would be cool to own one, but I honestly have no real use for 64-bits at home right now other than the cool factor. A faster clocked Athlon or P4 would be just as useful to me. The Banias at higher clockspeeds (I already have machines faster than the P4@2.2GHz at home) would be interesting as well because of the low heat generation.
Here is the link. Unfortunately, many of them are in languages that I can't speak or read. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8 &oe=UTF -8&q=athlon64+benchmark
Yeah... like the Barton that has a higher PR rating than the 2800+/333 T-Bred but the T-Bred beats it in most of the benchmarks you find...
I've seen the 3dmark2001 scores (high 7000s - far from spectacular) and some of the other more "real" benchmarks. All have been fairly unexciting and been "explained away" by using a variety of statments from #include
I'm just not going to go crow about performance figures that are still fantasy *especially* when they are based simply and completely on some numbering scheme used for marketing that has already been proven to be inaccurate, and especially when I've seen plenty of evidence already that seems to say that there will be only modest speedups on existing IA32 code. To be honest, I'm as excited about Banias in a desktop as much as the Opteron or Athlon64 because it means that I may be able to have practically silent machines again:)
Nothing that I've seen on the 'net even hints that the Opterons will be that much of an increase in speed over the Athlon that exists today running at near the same clockspeed. The best figure that I've seen is only 20% improvement in speed in 64-bit mode because of the new registers.
The best database server comparison I've seen in a while is http://www.anandtech.com/IT/showdoc.html?i=1747 which shows that while the AthlonMP can keep up with the non-HT Xeons that are clocked near its PR rating, the Xeons are walking off from that point just by virtue of clockspeed, even before you add in HT.
Remeber, 64 != 32x2 in this case. Clock for clock, the Opterons are probably not going to be *that* much faster than an Athlon on many things. Personally, I'll be impressed if we see a 33% speed improvement at the same clock speed and I would bet that we could attribute a lot of that to FSB speed increases over the AthlonMP.
The Opteron's ace probably isn't going to be a huge performance increase. It's going to be that it can address a lot of memory.
Of course, it doesn't help that we train everyone else in the world for free so that they can compete better, including giving them good quality code to study for OSs and applications.
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How about reading the article before you post? It helps prevent foot-in-mouth disease.
"And it would be both unlikely and counterproductive for the Linux kernel or the system library to be rewritten in Perl, Java, or Python."
Nope.... It's about using extra computer resources to make sure that things work right, even when faced with someone trying to not make it work right. One part of having more CPU power is being able to use that CPU power for things that we wished we could have in the past, but couldn't because we didn't have cycles to spare - sometimes in the form of features (bloat) or sometimes in the form of stability, easier to understand code (remember, *especially* in OSS, other people will need to be able to look at your code and understand it - readable/understandable code is one of the main primaces for peer review).
As the user said, 10% slowdown on many apps isn't that big of a deal if you are spending that 10% making sure that it can't be hacked or used to spread virii. Going from 10 seconds to 11 seconds to do some task is hardly noticable. Granted, going from 200 to 220 seconds may actually be noticable, but when you get to going from 60 minutes to 66 minutes, it will probably again not be noticable (unless you have some quota to meet) because you would have planned to do other things during that time anyway and would have come back to the task when you were ready to deal with it again - often after the task had already been completed for a while.
There is a time and place to have code run at the most optimum speed possible just as there is a time and place to have code run as secure as possible. Knowing when and where for each is a part of being a programmer as opposed to just being a hack.
Computer Languages are not that difficult to learn (for me at least - YMMV). If you can understand what is going on under the hood (since you know C, I would assume that you know something of it) then it all falls out in the end. BTW: this is why I think all programmers should have to learn assembly language of some flavor. Once you understand things at that level, there is no "magic" to programming.
I programmed in C/C++ for about 15 years as well. It took me less than a week to pick up C# and Java. The framework for each itself took a little longer (two weeks to do the things I needed). I had already started being productive in writing a J2EE app within two weeks of being asked to do so (the designs were already done) after not having known what the acronym J2EE even meant.
Buy a book or find a good online reference, know how to use various search engines, draw parallels with what you have done before (not implementation-wise but design-wise), find example code to look at and run to observe, and pick a smaller/simpler section of functionality you want to implement to start with.
Yup, this is a good movie, too.
I don't know the order of release or anything, but I remember my 4th grade teacher getting us to read a book called "Jack's Tales" that was similar to this movie. I remember really liking the book. I haven't seen the book since =/
Yup... Groundhog Day is without a doubt, IMO, Bill Murray's best flick. I also think it is just an all around great movie.
Holy cow! All this time, I was afraid to tell folks that I liked this movie for fear of being made fun of. I never knew that others liked it too! =)
It's been done for a while. Check out
u ll Abstracts/Brunett1063/Index.htm
http://www.supercomp.org/sc98/TechPapers/sc98_F
to see about the Tera Multithreaded computer. 128 hardware threads per single cpu. It was interesting and was actually built (I saw a few).
Not really. The G3 and G4 are significantly different, from the number of pipeline stages to bus optimizations.
P .p df
quick search shows up:
http://e-www.motorola.com/brdata/PDFDB/docs/G4W
http://www.byte.com/art/9704/sec5/art4.htm
http://cad.iaingibson.co.uk/g4_architecture.htm
North Korea isn't supposed to have vehicles to reach the USA, or are they lying too?
Also, the UN has shown that it really has no power other than to kill trees (for documents).
There are lots of reasons Bush wants to remove Saddam from power, not just one.
In any case, when Saddam had an arsenal of nuclear weapons and other WMD and it was proven that he had them (at that point, there is no reason to hide them), what would you recommend doing then? What if 100% of the UN and the Security Council said that he should be removed then? Guess what... you're too late. You can't do anything then without tremendous losses.
Liberals who would rather ignore what is going on elsewhere have done as much to endanger the citizens of the USA as anyone else. I can only imagine Gore's response to the 911 attacks... probably offer Osama some money and a few bombs to not do it again.
Yeah... Bush may not be great but I dance in the streets every time I think about Gore not being President.
Doesn't matter that it's Mandarin. It's second to *anyone* and this is nothing new? It's human nature to want to be #1. Why would any other nation/whatever feel any different? If you can't be #1, you want to at least be tied for #1. You also wouldn't like anyone trying to keep you from being #1.
Yes, but what you fail to also remember is that when those people had USA support, they were (maybe feigning) support for the USA. After they were helped by the USA to get into power, they decided that they got what they wanted then turned on the USA. It's not like they were always anti-USA and were helped by USA anyway.
Osama bin Laden is a good example of that. As long as the USA was giving him weapons and aid to help fight out the USSR, he was a lovey-dovey buddy of the USA. Since the USSR threat faded, he had to have someone else to hate to stay in power (or he always hated the USA but was willing to whore himself out for weapons/aid) so he turns on the USA.
What it means is that the USA needs to do better background checks before helping folks get into power.
Yes, the USA (and others) supported Saddam at one point. After he was firmly in power, he decided to turn against them all. I guess, in your opinion, we should just say "oh well, you win some and lose some" and let him continue to develop WMD. Eventually, he *will* have nuclear weapons and then what will the rest of the world do? I'd rather deal with it now than when he may have enough WMD to hurt even more civilians of other countries.
What buyers? Just sit back and wait on the expiration date and get it for free. If that is too far off, just clone it.
Yup... I was going to post the same thing. It's already hard as hell to sell software for Linux and other OSs that are driven by OSS as it is. People simply want it all for free and they'll either wait or write their own clone of it. The money you make in the OSS world is through support or through customization on-site.
Having this won't do anything at all. As someone else said, this thing was thought up by programmers, not businessmen.
Yep, this was my method as well. I did *all* the homework and then before each exam, I reworked *all* the homework that we were assigned since the last exam. Before the final, I reworked all the homework given since the beginning of the class. It took a bit of time but my grade was 99.8%.
"Us Free Software users provide valuable bug reports and feedback to the developers."
Yeah... and those folks who work at Mandrake feed their families with this.
First, I read the article. I'm curious to where the survey was taken... looks/sounds like it was at LinuxWorld. Now, here are some claims made that I'd like to see the numbers on.
"Even on Intel, Linux outperforms Windows."
and
"Let's say one company installs two Linux servers, but the company next door chooses five Windows servers to handle the same load."
and
"The irony here is that Windows gets an unfair market-share boost because it is inferior to Linux and requires more installations to do the same work. "
I've never seen anything supporting these claims. Post proof or simply fall into the "fanboi" bin.
First, I read the article. I'm curious to where the survey was taken... looks/sounds like it was at LinuxWorld. Now, here are some claims made that I'd like to see the numbers on.
/.ers typically accuse Microsoft of doing.
"Even on Intel, Linux outperforms Windows."
and
"Let's say one company installs two Linux servers, but the company next door chooses five Windows servers to handle the same load."
and
"The irony here is that Windows gets an unfair market-share boost because it is inferior to Linux and requires more installations to do the same work. "
I've never seen anything supporting these claims. Post proof or simply fall into the "fanboi" bin.
From another poster:
"What's more, a lot of the UNIX/Linux UI work that is going on today *is* innovating, just not by throwing out 30 years of history. There are elements that have been absorbed from Windows, some from MacOS, some from Motif/CDE, some from NeXT, even some from mostly non-graphical "environments" like EMACS, which in turn both influenced and drew from the LISP Machines."
Hmmm.... seems your definition of "innovation" is different from mine and is more in the line of what
Heh, I have no problems with either PL/SQL or T-SQL. There's no magic behind either one.
My main issue is featureset. For things that we do, MySQL just won't cut it. It gets closer but as slow as some of the features are put in, I might be an old man before it can be usable for what we do.
I read VIA chipset with Geforce4Ti4800 in the first one along with the "not finalized drivers, etc" stuff.
Anyway... I agree, I think it would be cool to own one, but I honestly have no real use for 64-bits at home right now other than the cool factor. A faster clocked Athlon or P4 would be just as useful to me. The Banias at higher clockspeeds (I already have machines faster than the P4@2.2GHz at home) would be interesting as well because of the low heat generation.
Some of these I found on the web by doing a search on Google using
/ /www.blanos.com/benchmark/bprint.cgi
8 &oe=UTF -8&q=athlon64+benchmark
athlon64 benchmark
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=8313
http:
Here is the link. Unfortunately, many of them are in languages that I can't speak or read.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-
Yeah... like the Barton that has a higher PR rating than the 2800+/333 T-Bred but the T-Bred beats it in most of the benchmarks you find...
:)
I've seen the 3dmark2001 scores (high 7000s - far from spectacular) and some of the other more "real" benchmarks. All have been fairly unexciting and been "explained away" by using a variety of statments from #include
I'm just not going to go crow about performance figures that are still fantasy *especially* when they are based simply and completely on some numbering scheme used for marketing that has already been proven to be inaccurate, and especially when I've seen plenty of evidence already that seems to say that there will be only modest speedups on existing IA32 code. To be honest, I'm as excited about Banias in a desktop as much as the Opteron or Athlon64 because it means that I may be able to have practically silent machines again
Nothing that I've seen on the 'net even hints that the Opterons will be that much of an increase in speed over the Athlon that exists today running at near the same clockspeed. The best figure that I've seen is only 20% improvement in speed in 64-bit mode because of the new registers.
The best database server comparison I've seen in a while is http://www.anandtech.com/IT/showdoc.html?i=1747 which shows that while the AthlonMP can keep up with the non-HT Xeons that are clocked near its PR rating, the Xeons are walking off from that point just by virtue of clockspeed, even before you add in HT.
Remeber, 64 != 32x2 in this case. Clock for clock, the Opterons are probably not going to be *that* much faster than an Athlon on many things. Personally, I'll be impressed if we see a 33% speed improvement at the same clock speed and I would bet that we could attribute a lot of that to FSB speed increases over the AthlonMP.
The Opteron's ace probably isn't going to be a huge performance increase. It's going to be that it can address a lot of memory.
Of course, it doesn't help that we train everyone else in the world for free so that they can compete better, including giving them good quality code to study for OSs and applications.