All of these pictures were taken before she went to North Vietnam - the reason why a lot of people (myself included) don't like her. She wasn't seen as a traitor before that.
This is what whoever forged the picture wanted to accomplish. Associate Kerry with people's hated for her.
Yeah, he was there, but Jane Fonda wasn't. So he was "placed" next to her because the intent here is to discredit him by associating him with Jane Fonda, even though Fonda was the one inserted into the original image, with Kerry in it.
Even though an authentic photo (that you linked to) exists of the two of them, he is sitting three rows behind her in a crowd. You could hardly use that to insinuate an association there. Also, your picture was taken at a different event from the forgery, before her trip to North Vietnam, the reason why she is so hated and why you don't want to be associated with her. The forgery would have been much more damaging since it shows Fonda speaking and Kerry sitting next to her on stage.
Theft is as much a misnomer as piracy is. This is neither swashbuckling on the high seas, or stealing. The correct term is copyright infringement. Theft (and being a pirate on the high seas, as far as I know) is a criminal offense punishible by jailtime. Copyright infringement is a civil offense. It is NOT theft.
The Russians aren't perfect... They designed two of their own shuttles, which fell into Kazakistan's hands. One had holes drilled into it so it could never fly, and the other is a resturaunt.
I like the Russian designs for their simplicity and effectiveness in general, but at least we got to use our shuttles.
Yeah, several things have been removed from Enterprise for testing purposes, and the cockpit is also not installed.
I haven't been there yet but I'll go once Enterprise is fully restored. Seeing a space shuttle, an SR-71, the Wright Brothers plane, the Enola Gay, and all the other stuff, in person, has to be something beyond belief.
It was never equipped for space. It was just the test version. It could have been refitted for space in the early to mid 80s, but they decided it would be cheaper to build new ones. How it was handled since then has made it basicly impossible to ever use in space. The Smithsonian kept it in a hangar from 85-03, and is now being restored and on display in their new air and space museum, with the Enola Gay, an SR-71, a Concorde, and lots of other cool stuff. I'm going to go see Enterprise once its ready, it'll look great. Sure would be nice to see the Hubble in there next to it...
One of those Russian shuttles is a resturaunt now... The other had holes drilled in it so it couldn't be used. It's a shame.
Yeah, but I didn't count it in my argument since it was the prototype and is not used. But yes, there are 4. If you want to count the two that the Russians made, then there are 6. Kazakhstan owns them now, but I think they've been rotting for so long that they are unusable.
I wish they would/could use Enterprise but I don't think its possible anymore. If only to hear on the news, "The Starship Enterprise has docked with the International Space Station..."
Discovery is being overhauled, is it not? "Overhauled" as in, virtually permantely overhauled, right?
Discovery is fine. It was scheduled for a mission in summer 2003 before the Columbia accident.
You are vastly overblowing the risk of a mission to the Hubble. We have had 113 shuttle missions since 1981. We have lost two. Both could have been prevented and should not have happened. NASA is more safety concious than ever now and will not allow a similar situation to happen again. This is not safety issue. It's a money issue. They don't want to spend the money. If they don't want to spend the money on this, what makes you think they'll spend more money on the Webb telescope?
The James Webb space telescope, if it is not cancelled, was intended to augment Hubble, not replace it. They detect two different things, the Webb for mostly infrared, and the Hubble for mostly short wavelengths, visible to humans. Also, it is very hard to get even a little time on the Hubble. Having both would allow for twice the exploration. The current 6 year gap between Hubble going out of service and Webb operating is not the issue at all.
And you are massively overblowing the risks involved. First of all, we have 3 space shuttles, Atlantis, Endeavour, and Discovery. How do we risk one and a half space shuttles? The only thing that makes it 'riskier' than going to the ISS, is that you can't go from Hubble to the ISS. This is not exactly a suicide mission. And I bet the astronauts would be more than willing to go.
It would only cost 500 million to service the Hubble. Allowing the Hubble to burn up in the atmosphere would waste the billions that we've already invested in it.
That doesn't demonstrate new jobs. You are assuming that moving jobs overseas will save them money, which will cause the industry to grow, which will create more jobs at the higher end, like design jobs.
First of all, assuming that sequence of events will happen is a bit of a stretch. But for now I'll go with it. Lets say that somehow this causes greater demand for software and it creates 'design' or high end jobs here. Is that going to replace all the good paying jobs that were lost? You only need so many of those people. We can't just say that everyone will do that.
Moving these jobs overseas reduces some of their costs. It won't necessarily cause growth, and growth won't necessarily create new jobs. The possibility of growth only exists if there is greater demand. Reducing one of your costs doesn't mean you're selling more. It's just costing you a little less.
And who is to say that these higher end jobs won't go overseas themselves? The only things safe are jobs that require a physical presence. And those are going to be minimalized and marginalized as much as possible.
We're not moving burger-flippers. We're moving upper middle class technical jobs. Good paying jobs that you need a degree for.
and the economy focuses on new jobs
What new jobs? Not one person has demonstrated what these new jobs will be. They make references to new, "knowledge" based jobs. What the hell are those? The only jobs we're creating are low level burger flipping jobs, that we will soon have to compete with Mexican immigrants for if Bush has his way.
I agree that piracy didn't kill Dreamcast, but technical inferiority and broadband didn't either. Dreamcast shipped with a dialup adapter and you could buy a broadband adapter separately for $50. PS2 shipped with neither until recently and it still costs around that separately. The two things that killed Dreamcast were lack of 3rd party support (EA not making any games for DC hurt) and Sony's hype machine for PS2. When it launched, PS2's graphics weren't any better than Dreamcast, and even today it still hasn't lived up to the hype it generated.
Yeah, that looks like Kerona from Space Quest 1. Now we know what happened to Beagle 2, Roger Wilco must have picked it up and traded it in at Robots B We. Or he thought it was another death probe and dropped a giant bone on it.
Your 100% right. But Ferrari has a very small market (of very rich people). I think Apple would be better served by appealing to "the masses" and having a greater market share, while keeping their high end and high margin products as well. Right now iTunes is a major selling point for iPods. When there is more competition in the legal music download market, iPods will become the selling point for iTunes. If they don't increase their iPod market share, they'll eventually lose more of iTunes's market share.
...A very nice computer for what an iPod costs. I'll never buy one. It seems like a colossal waste of money to me. $300 for what amounts to a walkman? Geez. I'll stick to my $50 CD/MP3 player. 700MB of MP3s per CD. Stick that on your pricing chart. And I can jog with it too.
I like the Jobs quote about Macintosh towards the bottom of the article. "At the critical juncture in the late '80s, when they should have gone for market share, they went for profits." Looks like they're taking profits over market share right now. These prices are obscene.
Yeah. See? Theres a customer base right there. Sure, most of them are kids, but their irresponsible and negligent parents will probably buy it for them anyway.
...Make an AO MMO sex game where all you do is have sex with other people's characters. All the free publicity from the religous right, the far left, and Joe Lieberman crying bloody murder, will guarantee an instant hit. Even if the game sucks. And it most likely would. If anyone would buy a game like The Guy Game, or a Strip Poker game, or something like that where they just get some tits flashed at them, they'd sure as hell buy this. They can even charge monthly fees. And developers love those.
Now theres a game that should be eye-toy compatible. Or a killer-app for Xbox Live.
(I wouldn't play this game, but you have to admit, it would sell. Especially among Slashdot readers.)
...Is someone that bitches about snipers. You don't like being sniped? Do something about it. Kill the sniper. All this is, is a glorified "hey no sniping no fair thats cheating".
Personally, I think that the war against piracy is unwinnable, and that piracy will destroy the business as it is today;.
Piracy isn't destroying the movie industry, the movie industry is destroying the movie industry. The budget of the average movie is going up (how much money spent on making a movie is actually spent making the movie?) and the quality of the product is going down. And from television, to the VCR, to piracy, the internet, instant messaging, and even consumers themselves, they've always found someone else to blame. Pumping out the same old crap and hyping it up just doesn't work like it used to. Make better movies, make movies more efficiently and stop throwing money away, and sell the product at a reasonable price, and the industry will be just fine. Reasonable prices have defeated piracy time and time again.
Sorry, it doesn't. Read my other replies. This is not CNN where natural disasters and death tolls and stuff like that is reported on, this is a forum for tech news. A TLD -possibly- going away forever is tech news. Theres plenty of things that have huge death tolls that don't get reported here. Just because some people's lives were ruined, which is a great tragedy, doesn't mean that you can't comment on the TLD and the WIFI.
Taiwan:
"It is hard to predict what the ramifications to the computer industry will be. Most of the world's motherboards and a lot of chips come from there. Those machines can't be reset overnight if they survived."
1st Isabel Post:
"The folks at NASA, USGS, & NOAA flew flights gathering elevation data (including building tops) along the Outer Banks before and after Hurricane Isabel as part of the Eastern Coastal & Watershed Studies on hurricane and severe storm impacts."
2nd Isabel Post:
"Amateur Radio operators in North Carolina and elsewhere in the projected track of Hurricane Isabel are getting ready for action"
Do you see a pattern? Slashdot is not trying to report on the natural disaster itself. It is reporting the technological issues caused by it.
An ancient expression says that "to end a life is to end the whole world." The original poster's throwaway remark, "Although only one person died..." before talking about the death of a fucking domain name speaks for itself.
I take life and death very seriously. It makes me sad that one person died. But you know what? This isn't CNN. This is Slashdot. We don't report every natural disaster and every time a large group of people dies. We report tech issues. Losing a TLD is a major tech issue. People dying is sad and the seriousness of that should never be underappriciated. But we go somewhere else for that information. This isn't the forum for that.
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All of these pictures were taken before she went to North Vietnam - the reason why a lot of people (myself included) don't like her. She wasn't seen as a traitor before that. This is what whoever forged the picture wanted to accomplish. Associate Kerry with people's hated for her.
Yeah, he was there, but Jane Fonda wasn't. So he was "placed" next to her because the intent here is to discredit him by associating him with Jane Fonda, even though Fonda was the one inserted into the original image, with Kerry in it.
Even though an authentic photo (that you linked to) exists of the two of them, he is sitting three rows behind her in a crowd. You could hardly use that to insinuate an association there. Also, your picture was taken at a different event from the forgery, before her trip to North Vietnam, the reason why she is so hated and why you don't want to be associated with her. The forgery would have been much more damaging since it shows Fonda speaking and Kerry sitting next to her on stage.
Theft is as much a misnomer as piracy is. This is neither swashbuckling on the high seas, or stealing. The correct term is copyright infringement. Theft (and being a pirate on the high seas, as far as I know) is a criminal offense punishible by jailtime. Copyright infringement is a civil offense. It is NOT theft.
The Russians aren't perfect... They designed two of their own shuttles, which fell into Kazakistan's hands. One had holes drilled into it so it could never fly, and the other is a resturaunt.
I like the Russian designs for their simplicity and effectiveness in general, but at least we got to use our shuttles.
Yeah, several things have been removed from Enterprise for testing purposes, and the cockpit is also not installed.
I haven't been there yet but I'll go once Enterprise is fully restored. Seeing a space shuttle, an SR-71, the Wright Brothers plane, the Enola Gay, and all the other stuff, in person, has to be something beyond belief.
It was never equipped for space. It was just the test version. It could have been refitted for space in the early to mid 80s, but they decided it would be cheaper to build new ones. How it was handled since then has made it basicly impossible to ever use in space. The Smithsonian kept it in a hangar from 85-03, and is now being restored and on display in their new air and space museum, with the Enola Gay, an SR-71, a Concorde, and lots of other cool stuff. I'm going to go see Enterprise once its ready, it'll look great. Sure would be nice to see the Hubble in there next to it... One of those Russian shuttles is a resturaunt now... The other had holes drilled in it so it couldn't be used. It's a shame.
Yeah, but I didn't count it in my argument since it was the prototype and is not used. But yes, there are 4. If you want to count the two that the Russians made, then there are 6. Kazakhstan owns them now, but I think they've been rotting for so long that they are unusable.
I wish they would/could use Enterprise but I don't think its possible anymore. If only to hear on the news, "The Starship Enterprise has docked with the International Space Station..."
We have 2 space shuttles. We've lost two recently.
We have 3 space shuttles and have lost two in 18 years.
On top of that, a replacement will be ready sometime in 2007.
The current timeframe is a 2011 launch, and that is expected to be pushed back signifigantly, due to development and technological issues.
The Hubble is failing, and requires massive, extraordinary measures to save it.
The Hubble requires routine scheduled maintenance.
I think you are ignorant and mal-informed as to what the real reasons behind the NASA decision is.
You are the one who is ignorant and mal-informed if you think the real reason behind this decision is anything other than money.
Discovery is being overhauled, is it not? "Overhauled" as in, virtually permantely overhauled, right?
Discovery is fine. It was scheduled for a mission in summer 2003 before the Columbia accident.
You are vastly overblowing the risk of a mission to the Hubble. We have had 113 shuttle missions since 1981. We have lost two. Both could have been prevented and should not have happened. NASA is more safety concious than ever now and will not allow a similar situation to happen again. This is not safety issue. It's a money issue. They don't want to spend the money. If they don't want to spend the money on this, what makes you think they'll spend more money on the Webb telescope?
The James Webb space telescope, if it is not cancelled, was intended to augment Hubble, not replace it. They detect two different things, the Webb for mostly infrared, and the Hubble for mostly short wavelengths, visible to humans. Also, it is very hard to get even a little time on the Hubble. Having both would allow for twice the exploration. The current 6 year gap between Hubble going out of service and Webb operating is not the issue at all.
And you are massively overblowing the risks involved. First of all, we have 3 space shuttles, Atlantis, Endeavour, and Discovery. How do we risk one and a half space shuttles? The only thing that makes it 'riskier' than going to the ISS, is that you can't go from Hubble to the ISS. This is not exactly a suicide mission. And I bet the astronauts would be more than willing to go.
It would only cost 500 million to service the Hubble. Allowing the Hubble to burn up in the atmosphere would waste the billions that we've already invested in it.
That doesn't demonstrate new jobs. You are assuming that moving jobs overseas will save them money, which will cause the industry to grow, which will create more jobs at the higher end, like design jobs.
First of all, assuming that sequence of events will happen is a bit of a stretch. But for now I'll go with it. Lets say that somehow this causes greater demand for software and it creates 'design' or high end jobs here. Is that going to replace all the good paying jobs that were lost? You only need so many of those people. We can't just say that everyone will do that.
Moving these jobs overseas reduces some of their costs. It won't necessarily cause growth, and growth won't necessarily create new jobs. The possibility of growth only exists if there is greater demand. Reducing one of your costs doesn't mean you're selling more. It's just costing you a little less.
And who is to say that these higher end jobs won't go overseas themselves? The only things safe are jobs that require a physical presence. And those are going to be minimalized and marginalized as much as possible.
low paid, low skilled jobs are moved elsewhere
We're not moving burger-flippers. We're moving upper middle class technical jobs. Good paying jobs that you need a degree for.
and the economy focuses on new jobs
What new jobs? Not one person has demonstrated what these new jobs will be. They make references to new, "knowledge" based jobs. What the hell are those? The only jobs we're creating are low level burger flipping jobs, that we will soon have to compete with Mexican immigrants for if Bush has his way.
Shaq-Fu, Budokan, Techno Clash, umm... Def Jam Vendetta? Does Knockout Kings count?
Good luck EA. John Madden himself as a playable character wouldn't save this game.
I agree that piracy didn't kill Dreamcast, but technical inferiority and broadband didn't either. Dreamcast shipped with a dialup adapter and you could buy a broadband adapter separately for $50. PS2 shipped with neither until recently and it still costs around that separately. The two things that killed Dreamcast were lack of 3rd party support (EA not making any games for DC hurt) and Sony's hype machine for PS2. When it launched, PS2's graphics weren't any better than Dreamcast, and even today it still hasn't lived up to the hype it generated.
Yeah, that looks like Kerona from Space Quest 1. Now we know what happened to Beagle 2, Roger Wilco must have picked it up and traded it in at Robots B We. Or he thought it was another death probe and dropped a giant bone on it.
...I think the Xbox version will be Battlefield Grenada.
Your 100% right. But Ferrari has a very small market (of very rich people). I think Apple would be better served by appealing to "the masses" and having a greater market share, while keeping their high end and high margin products as well. Right now iTunes is a major selling point for iPods. When there is more competition in the legal music download market, iPods will become the selling point for iTunes. If they don't increase their iPod market share, they'll eventually lose more of iTunes's market share.
...A very nice computer for what an iPod costs. I'll never buy one. It seems like a colossal waste of money to me. $300 for what amounts to a walkman? Geez. I'll stick to my $50 CD/MP3 player. 700MB of MP3s per CD. Stick that on your pricing chart. And I can jog with it too.
I like the Jobs quote about Macintosh towards the bottom of the article. "At the critical juncture in the late '80s, when they should have gone for market share, they went for profits." Looks like they're taking profits over market share right now. These prices are obscene.
Yeah. See? Theres a customer base right there. Sure, most of them are kids, but their irresponsible and negligent parents will probably buy it for them anyway.
...Make an AO MMO sex game where all you do is have sex with other people's characters. All the free publicity from the religous right, the far left, and Joe Lieberman crying bloody murder, will guarantee an instant hit. Even if the game sucks. And it most likely would. If anyone would buy a game like The Guy Game, or a Strip Poker game, or something like that where they just get some tits flashed at them, they'd sure as hell buy this. They can even charge monthly fees. And developers love those.
Now theres a game that should be eye-toy compatible. Or a killer-app for Xbox Live.
(I wouldn't play this game, but you have to admit, it would sell. Especially among Slashdot readers.)
...Is someone that bitches about snipers. You don't like being sniped? Do something about it. Kill the sniper. All this is, is a glorified "hey no sniping no fair thats cheating".
Personally, I think that the war against piracy is unwinnable, and that piracy will destroy the business as it is today;.
Piracy isn't destroying the movie industry, the movie industry is destroying the movie industry. The budget of the average movie is going up (how much money spent on making a movie is actually spent making the movie?) and the quality of the product is going down. And from television, to the VCR, to piracy, the internet, instant messaging, and even consumers themselves, they've always found someone else to blame. Pumping out the same old crap and hyping it up just doesn't work like it used to. Make better movies, make movies more efficiently and stop throwing money away, and sell the product at a reasonable price, and the industry will be just fine. Reasonable prices have defeated piracy time and time again.
I think his point stands, mr. dafoomie. ;)
Sorry, it doesn't. Read my other replies. This is not CNN where natural disasters and death tolls and stuff like that is reported on, this is a forum for tech news. A TLD -possibly- going away forever is tech news. Theres plenty of things that have huge death tolls that don't get reported here. Just because some people's lives were ruined, which is a great tragedy, doesn't mean that you can't comment on the TLD and the WIFI.
Your last two links are the same. Anyway:
Taiwan:
"It is hard to predict what the ramifications to the computer industry will be. Most of the world's motherboards and a lot of chips come from there. Those machines can't be reset overnight if they survived."
1st Isabel Post:
"The folks at NASA, USGS, & NOAA flew flights gathering elevation data (including building tops) along the Outer Banks before and after Hurricane Isabel as part of the Eastern Coastal & Watershed Studies on hurricane and severe storm impacts."
2nd Isabel Post:
"Amateur Radio operators in North Carolina and elsewhere in the projected track of Hurricane Isabel are getting ready for action"
Do you see a pattern? Slashdot is not trying to report on the natural disaster itself. It is reporting the technological issues caused by it.
An ancient expression says that "to end a life is to end the whole world." The original poster's throwaway remark, "Although only one person died..." before talking about the death of a fucking domain name speaks for itself.
I take life and death very seriously. It makes me sad that one person died. But you know what? This isn't CNN. This is Slashdot. We don't report every natural disaster and every time a large group of people dies. We report tech issues. Losing a TLD is a major tech issue. People dying is sad and the seriousness of that should never be underappriciated. But we go somewhere else for that information. This isn't the forum for that.