It's funny, I always wondered why cellphones had always been banned in RF-sensitive areas. Back when I had a Verizon cellphone on CDMA, my frequency sniffer never reported any activity coming out of my cellphone, being spread spectrum (aka "We live under the noise"). Then I got a Nextel, and when I walk in the room, my sniffer chirps to indicate that it's capturing freqs off my phone. Totally different beast. My Nextel phone puts noise bursts on my tv from 8 feet away. It also does it in the car but from less than 6 inches. Still, my CDMA phones *never* did that sort of thing, and I suddenly realized why cellphones were historically banned from Intensive Care Units and airplanes. Scary stuff. I don't even like putting it next to my head or carrying it on my hip too much.
And by the way : It is very nice to have the same telephone number several stories under the ground or in singapour, hong kong or new york
Someone else who hasn't used Nextel! Nextel has (albeit, butt-ugly) phones that transparently roam between domestic (iDEN) and international (GSM) networks. I use my i730 in the US, but move my SIM card to the i2000plus when I need to go to Europe. I know you said "without changing phones" but a 20 second change on each end of the trip to keep the same number in 144 countries is hardly an inconvenience. I especially like being able to change my wife's phone over before I leave for Europe knowing that she's going to join me later in the week, and her phone will "just work (tm)" when she arrives (except of course, no PTT overseas). Nextel certainly started as a business-oriented provider, but its market is expanding.
Exactly. I was just going to say something along the lines of, "only to lose it like 222?" or "why don't we use our 900MHz and 1.2GHz allocations first." 900 has similar enough characteristics to 800, if you want something to play with in that area.
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Does anyone else have as many blue LEDs around them as thing guy says he does?
I think a lot of people missed the comment the author made about his job reviewing stuff. That means he's going to have TONS of new stuff all around him all the time.
But no, as for me, I remember being a little taken aback the first time I drove my car at night with the car charger for my Nextel i730 in the socket. My car has the accessory socket clear on the passenger side of the center console, nearly in front of the passenger's left knee. The first time I glanced out the passenger window I realized how freaking bright that blue LED is. It took a little getting used to, but now when I look out the passenger window at night, I have a bright blue dot right in the middle of my view. Thanks, Motorola, ya bastids. At least its not showing up in my mirror.
two-way walkie talkie feature.. every 30 seconds just because they have a message waiting?
Two different things. The parent was referring to someone in the theater actually using the two-way radio, and you read it as someone actually ignoring their message waiting indicator throughout the movie. Just as annoying but a whole new level of stupid.
Hey Nextel owners, PLEASE hit the black speaker button to turn off your loudspeaker! No, you are not required to use the speakerphone function with the 2-way radio.
If you lived in the Northeast US or Canada what were your memories of the August Blackout?
My wife and I were on the way to NYC for her birthday weekend in midtown. We were about an hour south on the NJ Turnpike at 4:18pm, when I checked in on 88 CBS -- everyone was going berserk. (Remember, that day is nicknamed "4:11" now due to the time it hit.) When we got to the Princeton area all we could see was a huge ass black cloud in the sky. (That's 8A to 13 if you're familiar!) Turned out the scrubbers failed at the Linden cogeneration plant and the flames were about 10 stories high coming out of the vents. We never made it to a Hudson River crossing. Instead we went to my office, a data center near the GWB to see if they needed a hand, but they had everything under control. The battery backups were fine and the generators were coming online, and I'm just an architect, not an operations guy. I would have just gotten underfoot.
So we went back home to PA and watched CNN in amazement, seeing people sleeping in the lobby of the hotel we were supposed to be staying at, and wondering if I was going to get reimbursed for Chicago (until they made the announcement that we would be). Went back 6 weeks later and had a great time.
It was the first time I apologized to my wife for being pissed that she made us late:)
I have a p390 S/390 card in an Intel server that I can give you if you're an IBM employee. Its kinda the opposite because in normal datacenters, the master console is running OS/2 and sits on one of the mainframe units, but in this case the Intel box is running OS/2 and the S/390 chip is on an MCA card that spans two slots.
In all seriousness, go load up Hercules and if you like it THAT much then resume your search.
I've got an '03 Murano that I'm winding up to hack. Got the stock GPS and the SAT-ready Bose. Nissan won't sell you a satellite cable for the '03s but there are ways to get them. OTOH, this place is about to release a device that fakes out the radio to accept aux audio in via the unused SAT radio port. The radio controls (next/prev channel, next/prev preset group, presets 1-6) are all passed through their adapter to accessories, and text data is returned to the head unit for display as if it were RDS text. My current idea is to run CAJUN as the jukebox since I'll be able to use the RDS text area to navigate the jukebox menus and browse the music collection. I'd like something no bigger than the new low-profile Linksys routers, with just power, data, audio, a PCMCIA slot, and an internal laptop drive bay. Any suggestions?
Efforts are also underway to document the pinouts of the RGB display so that hopefully an mp3car-like device could share the entire display with all the stock gear. Until then, the 1x20 text line will have to do. Finally, it would also be nice if I could eventually get NMEA GPS **in** since ham radio uses a protocol to place icons on GPS-based maps showing hams' current locations and those of important events. I'd like to have icons automatically appear on my map to indicate the locations of car accidents. That function currently works with Garmin units, but I seriously doubt it will ever work with my Zenrin unit.
Non-hams can try it out with a police scanner tuned to 144.390. If you hear data, you can decode it and display live position data yourself. Linux has had soundcard radio modems for years.
Don't worry, Evil, some of us are on the front lines driving Linux adoption in corporations, where actions by a single person can affect far greater numbers of systems at a time. If an executive ever asked me for the quickest and easiest way to see Linux for himself, on his own time, I'd look for a Knoppix burn that shows off a nice, clean corporate-quality desktop (without all the Star Trek KDE crap on the original) and be sure to say, "Here, you can keep this or copy it for others. Remember, you can do that with Linux."
and washing machines, ok that's tougher, but it certainly doesn't have to come from America
Point is, they are not guaranteed to spend former American $$ on American goods. Yes, they will spend some, but they will not spend all of it, and they have a lot less to spend on our goods to start with. It just may not be worth losing an American job saying, "don't worry, the Indian guy's only going to buy American goods anyway", that's all.
they then take the remaining 4/5 of profit and reinvest it back into another part of the economy
As others have said, there are always price wars in the downward direction, so there is no remaining 4/5ths of the profit. Those $$ disappear in reduced prices just so the provider can stay in business.
Looks like my original post started quite a discussion. 9 replies thus far, up to a +4 and now down to 0. For the record, I have not been affected by outsourcing.. well, in some way I have.. I have kept my job and keep getting raises thanks to it.. but I think it would bother me more if I actually knew some affected by it.
I guess my point is that even if some of the money shipped to India is used to purchase American goods, we're only talking about a portion of that money, and the starting point is only 1/5th of the amount normally given to American workers. Thinking this through..
Suppose 1 American is replaced by 1 or 2 Indians. Some (like me) would say that removes 100% of 1 American salary from the American economy. BUT, since only 20-40% of that salary is shipped overseas, that means 60-80% of that salary is still sitting somewhere on American soil, usually in the business owners' pockets, ready to be spent. Unfortunately, the produced goods are sold for less money (your original argument), wiping out the 60-80% of the original American salary that was lost. Now, of the 20-40% of the original American money that went overseas, yes a small percentage of it comes back in purchasing American products. End result, an American is replaced by a cheaper foreign substitute, prices are lower in America (even though the unemployed can't buy anything anyway), and perhaps the unemployed then band together to form their own, competing small businesses, complete with overseas help. If the unemployed have enough of an entreprenurial spirit, then maybe this can work.
Damn. I tried really hard to keep the word "American" out of my posts, because this is a real problem worldwide, not just here.
Outsourcing has allowed margins on wholesale goods and such to drop lower. If goods and services can be purchased for less it stimulates the economy and helps it grow
But when jobs are lost, the economy that suffers the job losses grinds to a halt. The cheaper goods you mention still need to be sold to someone, and unless the domestic landscape turns into factories and warehouses that only ship overseas, they aren't being sold to anyone. I don't care if a PC drops from $2,400 to $1,200 -- if I don't have a job, I'm not buying it!
Because they don't contribute their hard-earned money back into our* economy. The money doesn't flow in a circular fashion. Its a one-way flow outbound. When people spend money, they create jobs. The salaries of those heads of household are creating jobs wherever said heads of household live.
Hey Lumpy, could you please post your comments about your experiences doing this? I have a link in my journal to open a discussion if you have the time.. thanks!
I'm quite irritated over the fact that unlike Red Hat, they don't put out ISOs of their releases as soon as they release them
Same here.. I've often wondered why no one has been able to assemble the jigdo files that would be useful for building ISO's from the SuSE FTP sites. If I understand their rules correctly, you are allowed to redistribute SuSE ISO's so long as you do not charge for them. Doesn't this situation just beg for jigdo?
That's what we IBM'ers have been using on mainframe Linux for years. That's also the version that recently acquired the first level of Common Criteria Certification (the new Orange Book if you follow that sort of thing).
Bauhaus - 20 songs Joy Division - 85 songs Rage Against the Machine - 16 songs Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - 13 songs Ramones - 385 songs Happy Mondays - 55 songs The Cramps - 18 songs Lords of Acid - 38 songs Sisters of Mercy - 8 songs New Order - 130 songs Velvet Underground - 181 songs Ministry - 28 hits
but alas, no Alien Sex Fiend (WHAT?!?!), Big Black, Rapeman, or Wedding Present. Still, the above list hardly qualifies as "bubblegum pop", hip hop or country. Its not as bad as you think it is.
Every time a F/OSS project's box get's hacked, it's a single machine getting broken into
Not necessarily true. Remember the Debian compromise? The hackers used a weak password to run a privilege escalation exploit that had been in the kernel running in MILLIONS of computers. Turned into a major kernel patch.
Microsoft has really been acting a lot nicer towards FOSS folks about security lapses.
They're being sensible. They're the last ones who should say anything about lapses in security. Even if the lapses are with the admins doing a poor job of managing the system, which includes applying patches. The most upright, non-contentious thing Microsoft could say right now is, "see? EVERY OS needs vigilant care and feeding." People have been saying on/. for years now, "just wait until Linux gets more popular. It will become worthy of hackers' attention and we will start seeing many more high profile compromises." Well, we're reaching critical mass and it is taking off. And just as predicted, the attacks, vulnerabilities, and compromises are starting to roll right in.
Wasn't there a vulnerability that was discovered in the last couple of months that has been in there for 4 years? Its going to keep happening. We are entering a period of big time code cleanup. If people could just tighten up the damn web servers on critical projects, we might not have to air this out in public this way. I mean, christ, try out LIDS or something. Try *anything* for containment.
Finally, I think Sourceforge is setting themselves up for a big hit, in a way. I created a project there but ended up abandoning it before releasing anything. I asked them to delete the project since I couldn't get it off the ground, and I didn't want pose a threat to their servers by keeping an unmaintained PHP Nuke-based site up. I qualified for deletion never having released a file, but they believe that once started as Open Source, all projects should be allowed to live on forever.
And to answer the burning question:), I wanted to a build a router that automatically detected networks in use on one side and configured itself using ip aliasing to become the gateway for each detected network and seamlessly handle all traffic. I had to build dozens of servers at the time, each with static IPs on different subnets but I needed to install software on them from one file server sitting there in the lab. Having a router automatically detect new subnets as they showed up on the wire and adjust itself to route for those subnets would have been a godsend. Deleting stale routes after a while would have been a nice touch.
Just sniff for arps for a.1 address that's not getting replies (remember, highly controlled environment). Bring up a new ip alias running that new.1 address, and a new route for that subnet should be added automatically. Just make sure the file server has the far side of the autorouter as the default gateway. Hell, you could do it on just 1 NIC.. (but would you want to...)
Linux and the Free software community has grown to achieve business acceptance./. is like MTV, except the people who actually brought Linux to the corporate world don't realize that they're too old to keep coming back.
MTV doesn't have a single show aimed at 30 somethings (let alone 40ish and 50ish) so I can delete the channel from my favorites list. I can't quite do that with our beloved/. yet. Yet.
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And why is it necessarily Nextel at fault
It's funny, I always wondered why cellphones had always been banned in RF-sensitive areas. Back when I had a Verizon cellphone on CDMA, my frequency sniffer never reported any activity coming out of my cellphone, being spread spectrum (aka "We live under the noise"). Then I got a Nextel, and when I walk in the room, my sniffer chirps to indicate that it's capturing freqs off my phone. Totally different beast. My Nextel phone puts noise bursts on my tv from 8 feet away. It also does it in the car but from less than 6 inches. Still, my CDMA phones *never* did that sort of thing, and I suddenly realized why cellphones were historically banned from Intensive Care Units and airplanes. Scary stuff. I don't even like putting it next to my head or carrying it on my hip too much.
And by the way : It is very nice to have the same telephone number several stories under the ground or in singapour, hong kong or new york
Someone else who hasn't used Nextel! Nextel has (albeit, butt-ugly) phones that transparently roam between domestic (iDEN) and international (GSM) networks. I use my i730 in the US, but move my SIM card to the i2000plus when I need to go to Europe. I know you said "without changing phones" but a 20 second change on each end of the trip to keep the same number in 144 countries is hardly an inconvenience. I especially like being able to change my wife's phone over before I leave for Europe knowing that she's going to join me later in the week, and her phone will "just work (tm)" when she arrives (except of course, no PTT overseas). Nextel certainly started as a business-oriented provider, but its market is expanding.
Nextel needs to move to a next generation solution something with higher bitrates for data
It's coming.
Exactly. I was just going to say something along the lines of, "only to lose it like 222?" or "why don't we use our 900MHz and 1.2GHz allocations first." 900 has similar enough characteristics to 800, if you want something to play with in that area.
Does anyone else have as many blue LEDs around them as thing guy says he does?
I think a lot of people missed the comment the author made about his job reviewing stuff. That means he's going to have TONS of new stuff all around him all the time.
But no, as for me, I remember being a little taken aback the first time I drove my car at night with the car charger for my Nextel i730 in the socket. My car has the accessory socket clear on the passenger side of the center console, nearly in front of the passenger's left knee. The first time I glanced out the passenger window I realized how freaking bright that blue LED is. It took a little getting used to, but now when I look out the passenger window at night, I have a bright blue dot right in the middle of my view. Thanks, Motorola, ya bastids. At least its not showing up in my mirror.
two-way walkie talkie feature .. every 30 seconds just because they have a message waiting?
Two different things. The parent was referring to someone in the theater actually using the two-way radio, and you read it as someone actually ignoring their message waiting indicator throughout the movie. Just as annoying but a whole new level of stupid.
Hey Nextel owners, PLEASE hit the black speaker button to turn off your loudspeaker! No, you are not required to use the speakerphone function with the 2-way radio.
If you lived in the Northeast US or Canada what were your memories of the August Blackout?
:)
My wife and I were on the way to NYC for her birthday weekend in midtown. We were about an hour south on the NJ Turnpike at 4:18pm, when I checked in on 88 CBS -- everyone was going berserk. (Remember, that day is nicknamed "4:11" now due to the time it hit.) When we got to the Princeton area all we could see was a huge ass black cloud in the sky. (That's 8A to 13 if you're familiar!) Turned out the scrubbers failed at the Linden cogeneration plant and the flames were about 10 stories high coming out of the vents. We never made it to a Hudson River crossing. Instead we went to my office, a data center near the GWB to see if they needed a hand, but they had everything under control. The battery backups were fine and the generators were coming online, and I'm just an architect, not an operations guy. I would have just gotten underfoot.
So we went back home to PA and watched CNN in amazement, seeing people sleeping in the lobby of the hotel we were supposed to be staying at, and wondering if I was going to get reimbursed for Chicago (until they made the announcement that we would be). Went back 6 weeks later and had a great time.
It was the first time I apologized to my wife for being pissed that she made us late
cheapshots and "whitty" replies
;)
and don't forget typos..
btw, that's "witty"
I have a p390 S/390 card in an Intel server that I can give you if you're an IBM employee. Its kinda the opposite because in normal datacenters, the master console is running OS/2 and sits on one of the mainframe units, but in this case the Intel box is running OS/2 and the S/390 chip is on an MCA card that spans two slots.
In all seriousness, go load up Hercules and if you like it THAT much then resume your search.
I've got an '03 Murano that I'm winding up to hack. Got the stock GPS and the SAT-ready Bose. Nissan won't sell you a satellite cable for the '03s but there are ways to get them. OTOH, this place is about to release a device that fakes out the radio to accept aux audio in via the unused SAT radio port. The radio controls (next/prev channel, next/prev preset group, presets 1-6) are all passed through their adapter to accessories, and text data is returned to the head unit for display as if it were RDS text. My current idea is to run CAJUN as the jukebox since I'll be able to use the RDS text area to navigate the jukebox menus and browse the music collection. I'd like something no bigger than the new low-profile Linksys routers, with just power, data, audio, a PCMCIA slot, and an internal laptop drive bay. Any suggestions?
Efforts are also underway to document the pinouts of the RGB display so that hopefully an mp3car-like device could share the entire display with all the stock gear. Until then, the 1x20 text line will have to do. Finally, it would also be nice if I could eventually get NMEA GPS **in** since ham radio uses a protocol to place icons on GPS-based maps showing hams' current locations and those of important events. I'd like to have icons automatically appear on my map to indicate the locations of car accidents. That function currently works with Garmin units, but I seriously doubt it will ever work with my Zenrin unit.
Non-hams can try it out with a police scanner tuned to 144.390. If you hear data, you can decode it and display live position data yourself. Linux has had soundcard radio modems for years.
Don't worry, Evil, some of us are on the front lines driving Linux adoption in corporations, where actions by a single person can affect far greater numbers of systems at a time. If an executive ever asked me for the quickest and easiest way to see Linux for himself, on his own time, I'd look for a Knoppix burn that shows off a nice, clean corporate-quality desktop (without all the Star Trek KDE crap on the original) and be sure to say, "Here, you can keep this or copy it for others. Remember, you can do that with Linux."
Point is, they are not guaranteed to spend former American $$ on American goods. Yes, they will spend some, but they will not spend all of it, and they have a lot less to spend on our goods to start with. It just may not be worth losing an American job saying, "don't worry, the Indian guy's only going to buy American goods anyway", that's all.
they then take the remaining 4/5 of profit and reinvest it back into another part of the economy
As others have said, there are always price wars in the downward direction, so there is no remaining 4/5ths of the profit. Those $$ disappear in reduced prices just so the provider can stay in business.
That's cool, you're right. You did say that!
Looks like my original post started quite a discussion. 9 replies thus far, up to a +4 and now down to 0. For the record, I have not been affected by outsourcing.. well, in some way I have.. I have kept my job and keep getting raises thanks to it.. but I think it would bother me more if I actually knew some affected by it.
I guess my point is that even if some of the money shipped to India is used to purchase American goods, we're only talking about a portion of that money, and the starting point is only 1/5th of the amount normally given to American workers. Thinking this through..
Suppose 1 American is replaced by 1 or 2 Indians. Some (like me) would say that removes 100% of 1 American salary from the American economy. BUT, since only 20-40% of that salary is shipped overseas, that means 60-80% of that salary is still sitting somewhere on American soil, usually in the business owners' pockets, ready to be spent. Unfortunately, the produced goods are sold for less money (your original argument), wiping out the 60-80% of the original American salary that was lost. Now, of the 20-40% of the original American money that went overseas, yes a small percentage of it comes back in purchasing American products. End result, an American is replaced by a cheaper foreign substitute, prices are lower in America (even though the unemployed can't buy anything anyway), and perhaps the unemployed then band together to form their own, competing small businesses, complete with overseas help. If the unemployed have enough of an entreprenurial spirit, then maybe this can work.
Damn. I tried really hard to keep the word "American" out of my posts, because this is a real problem worldwide, not just here.
Outsourcing has allowed margins on wholesale goods and such to drop lower. If goods and services can be purchased for less it stimulates the economy and helps it grow
But when jobs are lost, the economy that suffers the job losses grinds to a halt. The cheaper goods you mention still need to be sold to someone, and unless the domestic landscape turns into factories and warehouses that only ship overseas, they aren't being sold to anyone. I don't care if a PC drops from $2,400 to $1,200 -- if I don't have a job, I'm not buying it!
Because they don't contribute their hard-earned money back into our* economy. The money doesn't flow in a circular fashion. Its a one-way flow outbound. When people spend money, they create jobs. The salaries of those heads of household are creating jobs wherever said heads of household live.
* - "our" doesn't only mean "American".
Why not run a free ddns client like no-ip.org?
Hey Lumpy, could you please post your comments about your experiences doing this? I have a link in my journal to open a discussion if you have the time.. thanks!
I'm quite irritated over the fact that unlike Red Hat, they don't put out ISOs of their releases as soon as they release them
Same here.. I've often wondered why no one has been able to assemble the jigdo files that would be useful for building ISO's from the SuSE FTP sites. If I understand their rules correctly, you are allowed to redistribute SuSE ISO's so long as you do not charge for them. Doesn't this situation just beg for jigdo?
You, sir, just made a fan.
You've never heard of SuSE Enterprise Edition.
That's what we IBM'ers have been using on mainframe Linux for years. That's also the version that recently acquired the first level of Common Criteria Certification (the new Orange Book if you follow that sort of thing).
Bauhaus - 20 songs
Joy Division - 85 songs
Rage Against the Machine - 16 songs
Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - 13 songs
Ramones - 385 songs
Happy Mondays - 55 songs
The Cramps - 18 songs
Lords of Acid - 38 songs
Sisters of Mercy - 8 songs
New Order - 130 songs
Velvet Underground - 181 songs
Ministry - 28 hits
but alas, no Alien Sex Fiend (WHAT?!?!), Big Black, Rapeman, or Wedding Present. Still, the above list hardly qualifies as "bubblegum pop", hip hop or country. Its not as bad as you think it is.
Every time a F/OSS project's box get's hacked, it's a single machine getting broken into
Not necessarily true. Remember the Debian compromise? The hackers used a weak password to run a privilege escalation exploit that had been in the kernel running in MILLIONS of computers. Turned into a major kernel patch.
Microsoft has really been acting a lot nicer towards FOSS folks about security lapses.
/. for years now, "just wait until Linux gets more popular. It will become worthy of hackers' attention and we will start seeing many more high profile compromises." Well, we're reaching critical mass and it is taking off. And just as predicted, the attacks, vulnerabilities, and compromises are starting to roll right in.
:), I wanted to a build a router that automatically detected networks in use on one side and configured itself using ip aliasing to become the gateway for each detected network and seamlessly handle all traffic. I had to build dozens of servers at the time, each with static IPs on different subnets but I needed to install software on them from one file server sitting there in the lab. Having a router automatically detect new subnets as they showed up on the wire and adjust itself to route for those subnets would have been a godsend. Deleting stale routes after a while would have been a nice touch.
.1 address that's not getting replies (remember, highly controlled environment). Bring up a new ip alias running that new .1 address, and a new route for that subnet should be added automatically. Just make sure the file server has the far side of the autorouter as the default gateway. Hell, you could do it on just 1 NIC.. (but would you want to...)
They're being sensible. They're the last ones who should say anything about lapses in security. Even if the lapses are with the admins doing a poor job of managing the system, which includes applying patches. The most upright, non-contentious thing Microsoft could say right now is, "see? EVERY OS needs vigilant care and feeding." People have been saying on
Wasn't there a vulnerability that was discovered in the last couple of months that has been in there for 4 years? Its going to keep happening. We are entering a period of big time code cleanup. If people could just tighten up the damn web servers on critical projects, we might not have to air this out in public this way. I mean, christ, try out LIDS or something. Try *anything* for containment.
Finally, I think Sourceforge is setting themselves up for a big hit, in a way. I created a project there but ended up abandoning it before releasing anything. I asked them to delete the project since I couldn't get it off the ground, and I didn't want pose a threat to their servers by keeping an unmaintained PHP Nuke-based site up. I qualified for deletion never having released a file, but they believe that once started as Open Source, all projects should be allowed to live on forever.
And to answer the burning question
Just sniff for arps for a
Linux and the Free software community has grown to achieve business acceptance. /. is like MTV, except the people who actually brought Linux to the corporate world don't realize that they're too old to keep coming back.
/. yet. Yet.
MTV doesn't have a single show aimed at 30 somethings (let alone 40ish and 50ish) so I can delete the channel from my favorites list. I can't quite do that with our beloved