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The Blues for LEDs

Corey Burger writes "Seems somebody rolled out of bed on the wrong side today. The Globe and Mail's Ian Johnson delivers up a rant about the ubiquity of the new blue LEDs."

475 comments

  1. Fat cat by baseinfinity · · Score: 3, Funny

    Sounds like this guy has too many new expensive gadgets that he should send to someone who appreciates it more.

    1. Re:Fat cat by p3d0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Exactly what I was thinking. If he doesn't like blue LEDs, then he didn't really need to buy a new monitor, handheld scanner, webcam, USB hub, Bluetooth access point, WiFi adapter, desktop volume control for his speakers, external hard drive, video editing peripheral, keyboard, home theatre, wireless music gateway, USB keychain drive, and portable MP3 player, all apparently in the "recent months".

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    2. Re:Fat cat by Xugumad · · Score: 4, Funny

      In particular, if he bought cheaper gadgets, maybe they'd have green or red LEDs...

    3. Re:Fat cat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      This chap is clearly just a ****. Anyone calling himself the 'chic geek' must be a ****. (I believe the mods should mark this as insightful)

    4. Re:Fat cat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...............but.......he's not buying those things for the blue LEDs.

    5. Re:Fat cat by mesach · · Score: 0

      See there is a problem with being Technosexual.

      He has to figure out how to color coordinate those Blue LED's with the rest of his repitoir(sp? m-w.com couldn't figure it out).

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    6. Re:Fat cat by SubtleNuance · · Score: 1, Interesting

      exactly what i was going to say. Ive seen plenty of devices with BlueLEDs. Funny, I just havnt bought anything since that 'fashion' changed (and they dropped in price as he mentioned). If this guy wasnt such a rampant, hyper-consumer. He's probably not, he's a tech-writer, he probably needs them for review but he is emulating a lifestyle. That lifestyle also finds their good fortuen stifflying... this guy with his fancy-blue-LEDs, Victorian house-wives with keeping up with coutoure or the Drama House.

      I'll feel sympathy for this guy when everyone's problems are so difficult.

    7. Re:Fat cat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That doesn't follow logically, at all. Please try to refrain from posting logical fallacies. Thank you.

    8. Re:Fat cat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you're clearly an asshat. Anyone who needs to beg for a mod must be an asshat. (I believe the mods should mark this as funny)

    9. Re:Fat cat by earthstar · · Score: 1

      Absolutely right!!!

    10. Re:Fat cat by gantrep · · Score: 1

      I agree. He's just a whiner. If it bothers him that much he could fix it with electrical tape. It's not the manufacturers' problem for making so many blue devices, its his for buying them and not liking them. In effect he's complaining about how much cool stuff he has. Most normal people like blue LED's and would gladly take all that hardware no matter the color.

      He's right that they're crazy cheap now though. I just agreed to outfit my friend's paintball gun with a couple. Bought them from cytechmods.com because oddly enough they were the cheapest supplier i found through froogle. .20 cents per LED. Pretty nice.

    11. Re:Fat cat by gantrep · · Score: 0, Redundant

      I think the grandparent is also an asshat. I believe the mods should mark this as redundantly redundant.

    12. Re:Fat cat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      repitoir(sp? m-w.com couldn't figure it out).

      It's spelt repertoire.

    13. Re:Fat cat by acariquara · · Score: 1, Funny
      I agree. He's just a whiner. If it bothers him that much he could fix it with electrical tape.

      Then again, what can't be fixed with all-powerful duct/gaffer/electrical tape?

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    14. Re:Fat cat by Sj0 · · Score: 1

      I bought a cheap set of speakers from Walmart a few months ago. Power light is brighter than my screen, so sadly this isn't something that is just for high end stuff.

      (as for your .sig, I'll vote for green when they come up with some decent ideas about how to run a country. I'll vote for the new Conservatives when they prove they can balance a budget, which probably won't be soon, since Mulroney, "conservative" as he was, racked up some of the biggest deficits in the history of the country. I won't ever vote for the NDP ("you guys shouldn't have balanced the budget! You should have spent that money which you don't have on social programs!"). Seems to me that childishness aside, the liberals have shown themselves to be the lesser of the political evils, the best choice for moderates, mild conservatives, though ironically perhaps not liberals...)

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    15. Re:Fat cat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it is I T.

    16. Re:Fat cat by Shakrai · · Score: 1
      Most normal people like blue LED's and would gladly take all that hardware no matter the color

      I guess I'm behind the times. The only blue LED toy that I have is the binary clock from Thinkgeek. I bought it for my office desk as a conversation starter (it works). Couldn't decide between red and blue -- went with blue just because. Haven't yet purchased another toy with blue leds. Not because they are too bright (though they do lean in that direction) but because I haven't had the chance yet.

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  2. Well... blue LEDs are okay... by oldosadmin · · Score: 2, Funny

    But do they run linux?

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    1. Re:Well... blue LEDs are okay... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmmm... if they run Linux, I'm sure I could imagine a beowulf cluster of those...

    2. Re:Well... blue LEDs are okay... by smchris · · Score: 1


      From my experience, no. Several computers and I don't _have_ any blue LEDs. So, one of those weird articles for me to read, at least.

    3. Re:Well... blue LEDs are okay... by kasperd · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm sure I could imagine a beowulf cluster of those

      Actually when I'm sitting next to our beowulf cluster I can see sixteen blue leds on the raid box connected to our fileserver running Linux. And can you imagine how distracting that can be? But hey, it looks cool.

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    4. Re:Well... blue LEDs are okay... by rsidd · · Score: 1

      My laptop (HP Pavilion ZE5300 series) has eight blue LEDs. And one green LED, for the AC-in indicator. It's insane. But it does run linux flawlessly -- everything works, even the winmodem with linuxant's payware driver.

    5. Re:Well... blue LEDs are okay... by A_Non_Moose · · Score: 2, Funny

      But do they run linux?

      Technically, Yes...or is it the other way around?

      I've got one of pogolinux's Storageware devices, running RH AS3 (versus the RH9 it came "with"...got the disks 3 days after the device. No matter, now).

      Anyway, this thing has 32 of those *BRIGHT* blue led's...16 are constatntly lit when the drives are powered, and the other 16 during access. With the drives all in raid 5, you can imagine the flashing.

      Also imagine the noise of 4 (guess on my part so far) 5K to 7.2Krpm fans going off. Yikes.

      The only other colors are a green led for network access, and IIRC amber for power.

      What still amuses me about this box is that the power and reset buttons are the size of #2 pencil leads. I suppose it reduces accidental resets/power offs, but the buttons being smaller then all the led's is quite funny/amusing.

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    6. Re:Well... blue LEDs are okay... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had a dream last night that I put linux on my luggage.

    7. Re:Well... blue LEDs are okay... by gantrep · · Score: 1

      My ZE4420 has 11. Power button, power indicator, caps, num, scroll, 5 on those silly internet keys i've never pressed, a green one to indicate it's on external power, and another blue one on the touchpad. I think hd activity is orange. They really not very bright though. Everything is behind some clear plastic that diffuses the blue quite a bit.

      This one almost runs linux flawlessly. The pcmcia doesn't work right in slackware, but besides that yeah.

    8. Re:Well... blue LEDs are okay... by rsidd · · Score: 1

      Make that 12 blue and 1 green LED I guess. I missed out quite a few in my case -- I have all the ones you mention, and my HD activity one is blue too.

  3. Why by flossie · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Why doesn't he just buy toys that don't have blue LEDs then. Manufacturers will respond quickly if toys with green LEDs sell better than blue ones.

    1. Re:Why by Neophytus · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Single-person boycotts don't work. Also, sometimes with the abundance of these things it's hard to avoid them.

    2. Re:Why by Ralph+Yarro · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Single-person boycotts don't work.

      Individuals deciding what they do and don't like then buying what they like and not what they don't is exactly how markets do normally work.

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    3. Re:Why by gbjbaanb · · Score: 4, Insightful

      no-one buys an item because of its LED colour, or if it has them ata ll - you buy by the spec/brand/etc. It just so happens that they all have blue leds nowadays, so telling him to buy a different product is useless advice.

      Telling him how to take theproduct apart and replace the led with a different colour one... now that's the kind of answer I like.

    4. Re:Why by fireman+sam · · Score: 5, Funny

      The Blue LED howto:

      Part 1 - dimming.

      1. Go to the hardware shop and pick up some masking tape.
      2. Cut a piece sufficiently large to cover the offending LED
      3. Place the tape over the LED
      4. Repeat from step 2 until the LED is sufficiently dim.

      Part 2 - Blocking

      1. Go to the hardware shop and pick up a nice hammer drill and a drill bit of similar diameter as the LED

      2. Turn the device with the LED off.
      3. Drill the shit out of the LED*

      *Or, drill the shit out of your eyes. Therefore, removing the need to block any other blue LEDS that you may have on your "look at me I am a techy" gadgets.

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    5. Re:Why by adamjaskie · · Score: 1

      Except it voids your warrenty. Luckily, the major things I have that don't have blue LEDs either are out of warrenty (IBM Workpad C3 docking station) or have no reason to ever be sent in for warrenty repair (Antec computer case) so I don't have to worry. The power light on my monitor stays green, though. I might put a dab of flat black paint over it, though. No reason to have it, really.

      The only blue LED I have any problem with is the one in my center channel speaker. It is crazy bright, and lights up most of my dorm room at night. This has caused me to turn off the speakers at night. That light was more distracting and disturbing to sleep than the fan noise from my computer with 10 fans.

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    6. Re:Why by Darkman,+Walkin+Dude · · Score: 0, Troll

      How the hell did this get an interesting modifier? Its Funny! Wokketey wok! *envisions lackwit mods going off buying drill bits of similar diameter to their eyes*

    7. Re:Why by Scodiddly · · Score: 3, Informative

      >2. Turn the device with the LED off.
      >3. Drill the shit out of the LED*

      4. Turn the device back on, and find out if the LED was actually part of an important circuit as well as being an indicator.

      Alternate step 3: Use black electrical tape to cover the LED. Peel it back off when you're taking the eBay photos a couple years from now.

    8. Re:Why by ejaw5 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Even better:

      1. Disassemble device
      2. Locate offending LED
      3. Apply heat (solder iron) and remove LED
      4. If so desired, replace it with an LED of different color using the solder iron and resin.
      5. Reassemble device

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    9. Re:Why by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      uh, but what he has been doing has been the opposite of acting any way sensibly, buying stuff he now says sucks because of the leds..

      he has been buying a LOT of hardware seemingly on the basis that 'it has bright blue leds' because otherwise you wouldn't end up with that much stuff that has them. the article author is claiming that you can't buy any hardware that doesn't have them.. but that is just bollocks. maybe if he didn't always go for the 'top of the line gimmicky looking crap' he could actually have some stuff that didn't come with useless annoyances.

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    10. Re:Why by AntiOrganic · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Then why can't I find a single pair of pants that don't have those fucking ridiculous "stonewashed" bleach stains all over them?

    11. Re:Why by secolactico · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Then why can't I find a single pair of pants that don't have those fucking ridiculous "stonewashed" bleach stains all over them?

      Cause you are not looking hard enough. Get out of the GAP and you might find plenty of denims in normal colors.

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    12. Re:Why by 1u3hr · · Score: 1
      Why not put a drop of white paint on the LED -- I assume they're not hot. And if they do blow up, the device will keep working.

      Anyone have an idea of the power consumption of these things? I used to worry about the effect on battery life on my portable short-wave when I was going into the bush for extended periods.

    13. Re:Why by jandrese · · Score: 2, Funny

      6. Throw it away when you realize you broke it.

      Ok, most of this time this isn't a problem, but have you see how small some of those LEDs are these days? Most people are inexperianced with their iron and are not willing to drop molten metal inside of their several thousand dollar home theature equipment.

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    14. Re:Why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Speaking of possible boycotts, here's something that Slashdot's not covering relevant to the topic at hand:
      Antec has received a patent for case fan LEDs." They received the patent January 20, and have started sending out C&D style letters not only to manufacturers, but to retailers that are selling LED fans from other manufacturers. These fans have been around for years now, with their roots in the modding community itself. The fact that Antec's gone out and claimed this as their IP is more than a bit ridiculous. The fact that they received a patent on it is worse - what exactly is non-obvious about sticking a few lights on something?

      Sorry for going slightly OT, but it's slightly annoying to see some random rant about blue LEDs on the front page after the editors rejected a submission of blatant patent abuse in the same field not even a day ago.

    15. Re:Why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      4a. Replace corresponding series resistor.

      Blue LEDs typically have a forward voltage greater than standard red/green/yellow ones. If you don't use a correctly-calculated series resistor, a lower voltage LED will receive more current and become a super-high-tech Black LED shortly after powerup.

    16. Re:Why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Then why can't I find a single pair of pants that don't have those fucking ridiculous "stonewashed" bleach stains all over them?"

      Go to Wal-Mart. They have tons of ordinary jeans and at decent prices, too. Or are you too damned good to shop at Wal-Mart?

    17. Re:Why by Lehk228 · · Score: 5, Funny

      ever hook up a stock LED to the power pack taken out of a polaroid camera.... LED went bright, then dim, then exploded hitting me above the eye with a chunk of plastic...

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    18. Re:Why by arctan1701 · · Score: 1
      no-one buys an item because of its LED colour


      yet i have returned an e-machines laptop because of this. it wasn't the color that really bothered my, it was the leds intensity. the led was positioned right below the screen and was the equivalent of having a very bright flashlight shining in your eyes as you worked. for some reason, i just didn't enjoy the thought of only using the upper left quadrant of the screen to work on a brand new laptop.

      the consumer should not have to modify his hardware (and likely void his warranty) just to make a device usable. and no, i am not walking around with duct tape on a brand new laptop. the replacement for this laptop can from a much more led considerate vendor.
    19. Re:Why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Go to Wal-Mart. They have tons of ordinary jeans and at decent prices, too. Or are you too damned good to shop at Wal-Mart?

      Don't go to Walmart. You're just as well off quitting your job and sending it overseas.

      FUCK WALMART.

    20. Re:Why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      doesnt work all the time. Blue LED's run at HIGHER voltages than a red or green led does.

      so therefore you can easily smoke a red led by putting in a Blue led's location.

      How about locate the LED and current limiting resistor and replace both with correct values.

      I personally increase the resistance on any Blue led's I see to dim them down.. I do agree that using a superbright led in a piece of tech-gear is stupid.

    21. Re:Why by thatnerdguy · · Score: 0

      Why wouldn't you turn off the speakers at night? You shouldn't need them unless your computer is your alarm.

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    22. Re:Why by SubtleNuance · · Score: 1

      Individuals deciding what they do and don't like then buying what they like and not what they don't is exactly how markets do normally work.

      Oh yes, the voting with your dollars argument. BS. Markets need control *other* than that provided by citizen spending. If the capital owners had as few votes as we all do than that might be a better system. But, alas, they do not -- they hold all the votes, and we can get stuffed.

      If people want to see the market change, they cant do it by their personal spending. Thats the dismissive answer from someone who disagrees... or wants to maintain the status-quo, to resort to the religion-of-free-markets as its own justification.

      in short, fuck markets.

    23. Re:Why by nevek · · Score: 1

      Leds have dropped from around 15$ a year ago to 1.75cdn at the local surplus store, (even though radio shack still charges 7$ for very dim ones)

      I put them in a few mice (replacing the red) it really looks great, although I hate to know that all the micemakers are soon going to release blue ones and make my conversions obsolete

      oh well the way of computers

    24. Re:Why by Ralph+Yarro · · Score: 1

      If your point is that companies can grow too powerful and that there are times when intervention to keep them under control and regulate them in the best interests of society as a whole then I agree with you.

      On the other hand, if you're suggesting that use of blue versus green or red or whatever color LEDs is an issue meriting such action then I think you're insane. There is no vast blue LED conspiracy and if companies find that consumers would rather buy products with non-blue LEDs then they will provide them.

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    25. Re:Why by InfiniteWisdom · · Score: 4, Informative

      4. If so desired, replace it with an LED of different color using the solder iron and resin.


      And watch your new LED smoulder after a while. Blue LEDs trigger at 3.2 volts as compared to 0.7 volts for red and green LEDs. You also need to place a larger resistance in series with it, which is at best hardto do on a PCB that wasn't designed for it.

      I vague recall seeing LEDs with curren-limiting resistances built in though somewhere, so make sure you use one of those.

    26. Re:Why by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 1

      no-one buys an item because of its LED colour, or if it has them ata ll - you buy by the spec/brand/etc. It just so happens that they all have blue leds nowadays, so telling him to buy a different product is useless advice.


      Actually, blue is used as a subtle marketing tool - blue LEDs make people think an item is "more expensive/higher end" than one with red LEDs. And part of branding is to convince you Berand X is btter than Y and get you to pay a premium for the name; and anything that helps that idea along is used to "build the brand."

      Manufacturers use blue to elicit that (often sub-concious) response. As blue LEDs, become less expensive, you'll see them move into cheaper stuff - and eventuall they will no longer be associated with higher end gear, just as red LEDs have - remember when an LED watch was expensive instead of a giveaway item?

      As for specs, mots consumers neither understand them but think they do- which is why manufacturers get into "spec wars" such as pushing 8megapixal cameras with tiny sensors that are actually, in many cases, have worse picture quality than say a 5 megapixel sensor of the same size, or a 6MP, but larger, sensor. Consumers see 8MP and immediately assume it's better than 5MP, so manufacturers build them and put 8MP in big bold letters on the box.

      then, of course, there is the "Make up a word taht people think means something good but really doesn't" such as "hypoallergenic"

      Of course, that's why MBAs get big bucks while programmers get laid off.

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    27. Re:Why by wtansill · · Score: 2, Informative
      Go to Wal-Mart. They have tons of ordinary jeans and at decent prices, too. Or are you too damned good to shop at Wal-Mart?
      Yes, actually, I am. I have better things to do than spend my hard-earned money at a store that deprives others of the right to earn a living wage, and kills off local small business in the process. Mall Wart is the Kudzu of the retailing world.
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    28. Re:Why by TheLoneDanger · · Score: 1

      If you are unwilling to drop molten metal inside of your thousand dollar home theater equipment, what are you doing here?

      It is my hope that every slashdotter has at least ruined more electronics than the average person will ever buy, or can explain he (she) hasn't because he (she) is intensely competent.

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    29. Re:Why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1.6V red
      2.1 green

    30. Re:Why by SubtleNuance · · Score: 1

      On the other hand, if you're suggesting that use of blue versus green or red or whatever color LEDs is an issue meriting such action then I think you're insane

      Ha, no, I agree with your former statement... not this one :)

    31. Re:Why by Fear+the+Clam · · Score: 1

      Black electrical tape also fixes that flashing 12:00...12:00...12:00 on the VCR.

    32. Re:Why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes. Humans are herd animals. They will accept
      wherever they are driven to. Markets are driven,
      what people think about is driven. Over the cliff
      they are driven. Got milk? Just say mooooooo.

    33. Re:Why by adamjaskie · · Score: 1
      Why wouldn't you turn off the speakers at night? You shouldn't need them unless your computer is your alarm.

      Well, DUH! It requires more EFFORT to turn the off. I am lazy.

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    34. Re:Why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can get "pure green" LEDs made with GaN that have about the same voltage drop as blue LEDs. (GaN is primarily used for blue LEDs though there are still some blue LEDs made with SiC.) These "pure green" LEDs are closer to primary green in color and, IMO, look better than the more typical (old tech) green LEDs which are something like a lime green or yellow green color. Anyway, if you replace a blue LED with a GaN green LED you don't need to replace the current limiting resistor. (Not a big deal to replace a resistor if you are going to the trouble of replacing the LED but anyway... :)

    35. Re:Why by irokitt · · Score: 4, Funny

      6. ....
      7. Profit!

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    36. Re:Why by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      So you'd rather shop at some huge chain mall store like Gap or Aberzombie which also makes all its clothes in Asian sweatshops, and charges 5x as much for them?

      Then don't complain about not being able to find clothes that don't follow the latest fad.

    37. Re:Why by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 1

      no-one buys an item because of its LED colour, or if it has them at all...

      I do, when buying an LED flashlight.

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    38. Re:Why by aastanna · · Score: 1

      Sometimes the choice is either work in a sweatshop, starve, or be a prostitute and probably die of AIDS. I have no problem with sweatshops, at least until the overall standard of living in the third world improves. When public pressure closes them it can cause serious damage to the workers. Besides, it's not like the west didn't have exactly the same living conditions when it was industrializing.

    39. Re:Why by sploxx · · Score: 1

      Rofl. +5 Informative for this! :)

    40. Re:Why by Malc · · Score: 1

      How about stop being a mindless drone and buy something other than denim? I haven't bought a pair of jeans for six years... it's quite easy.

    41. Re:Why by sploxx · · Score: 1

      Here is the math (long winded, but should be >| E=h*c/lambda, voltage difference per electron: U=h*c/(e* lambda).

      => pocket calculator => U_red approx 1.6V, U_blue approx 3.1V.

      Resistor for blue LED @ 5V supply voltage, 20mA current: (5-3.1)volts/(20mA) approx 100 ohm.

      Current through red led: (5-1.6)volts/(100ohm)=34mA.

      34mA through the LED. Most of my LEDs would out of spec. here, but very often, it works! No warranty! :)

    42. Re:Why by sploxx · · Score: 2, Informative

      Here is the math:

      Wavelength: Minimum @ 400nm (violet). =: lambda1.
      Maximum: 800nm (red) =: lambda2.
      Energy E=h*f, with f=c/lambda => E=h*c/lambda, voltage difference per electron: U=h*c/(e* lambda).

      => pocket calculator => U_red approx 1.6V, U_blue approx 3.1V.

      Resistor for blue LED @ 5V supply voltage, 20mA current: (5-3.1)volts/(20mA) approx 100 ohm.

      Current through red led: (5-1.6)volts/(100ohm)=34mA.

      34mA through the LED. Most of my LEDs would out of spec. here, but very often, it works! No warranty! :)

      (Repost because of formatting errors)

    43. Re:Why by Hays · · Score: 1

      Well said, I've had to resort to this dimming method with green LEDs, even.

    44. Re:Why by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "and kills off local small business in the process."

      You do realize that Walmart's killing off these other businesses because they're carrying what you want for the price you want, right?

      I can't speak for the former argument, but the latter is just plain thoughtless.

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    45. Re:Why by npsimons · · Score: 3, Funny

      Blue LEDs typically have a forward voltage greater than standard red/green/yellow ones. If you don't use a correctly-calculated series resistor, a lower voltage LED will receive more current and become a super-high-tech Black LED shortly after powerup.

      Ah, yes, the old "all diodes are light emitting . . . once" rule of electronics.
    46. Re:Why by Phs2501 · · Score: 1
      Otherwise known as an SED.

      (Smoke Emitting Diode.)

    47. Re:Why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      as compared to 0.7 volts for red and green LEDs.

      0.7 is the voltage drop across a regular silicon diode, not the light emitting kind. It's often said that red through green LEDs have a voltage drop of 1.7v, but that's not really correct either, just a handy shortcut.

      You also need to place a larger resistance in series with it

      Not "also." You need a larger resistor because the higher voltage will cause a higher current flow, which will make the LED burn very bright for not very long at all. The series resistor drops the current and takes up the extra voltage.

    48. Re:Why by Sj0 · · Score: 1

      You wear khaki cargo pants and cotton shirts. And emo glasses. That's 'cause you're so unique. You also probably write bad poetry or run an anticonsumer website or magazine, right? :P

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    49. Re:Why by rossifer · · Score: 1

      How about stop being a mindless drone and buy something other than denim?

      Because denim lasts for many years (as long as it hasn't been acid washed), denim is comfortable, denim is very low effort to keep clean (wash hot with plenty of detergent, spot treat on the grease stains after working on the car) and denim suits my casual style. Since it also suits my employer's casual dress code, I'm very happy with denim and at this point in my life, I only have three non-denim pairs of pants for the few occasions I attend where blue jeans are not appropriate.

      And since when does buying functional clothing make someone a mindless drone? If anything, those people buying fashion for fashion sake are the mindless drones. Here in LA, I call people who place style over substance "hipsters", "slicksters", or "place-holders" (I choose the pejorative based largely on observed personality).

      I haven't bought a pair of jeans for six years... it's quite easy.

      So what do you think is so superior to denim? Dockers? Not really a stand-out of independant style... Hand made wool suits? Pretty low scoring on the bang/buck scale. Push-up bustiers with frilly underthings? If so, I'll agree that you're definitely not following the majority with that one :)

      Actually, I'm in need of some new jeans right now. Probably going to head over to Ross (the store) and see what they've got in seconds and irregulars for blue jeans. If I don't find much I'll head over to Costco and see what they've got in my size. But I'm not buying them to fit into any mythical crowd. Certainly not in LA.

      Regards,
      Ross

    50. Re:Why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Be a man and use surface mount.

    51. Re:Why by OldSchoolNapster · · Score: 1

      The Gap also has normal colored denim jeans. I just bought some. Step in to the Gap before you tell people to get out of the Gap. IMHO the Gap is one of the few stores that consistantly stocks mostly stylish clothes. Shop for your jeans at Walmart and you might find yourself wearing "Grandma Jeans" although I guess they probably won't be stonewash bleached. If you haven't been to the Gap in a while, check it out and try a few things on. You might be surprised.

      I don't normally shill for corporations but I thought little tip on dressing well may be more useful to the Slashdot crowd than a discertation on why Linux is better than Windows.

    52. Re:Why by cbreaker · · Score: 1

      And let me guess, you don't own a TV and you're proud of it and tell everyone about it every chance you get?

      Jeans are comfortable and tough. They have lived through many generations of fashions and styles. I buy them because I like them, they fit good, they feel good, and they don't rip easily like most other materials.

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    53. Re:Why by deadsaijinx* · · Score: 0

      God damn it people, use your BRAINS!

      Walmart can kill off local small business because you buy your goods at a cheaper price from them. People shop at stores like walmart because they are more concerned with their own bottom line than Jerry's Pants & Things ...

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    54. Re:Why by thrash242 · · Score: 1

      Who cares about style? Especially corporate endorsed style? What kind of nerd/geek are you?

      The Gap has the stylish clothes because they regularly put out commercials saying what's stylish, like Old Navy: "Look, it's fleece vinyl crotchless cardigan capri biker pants! Brand-new from Old Navy!" Then soon after, everyone is wearing said ridiculous garments, until the next Old Navy or Gap commercial comes out.

      If you have a style, it should be something you come up with for youself, not something corporations and clothing designers ram down your throat.

      BTW, Wal-Mart also generally tries to keep up with styles, albeit in generic brands. I don't see Grandma jeans there unless they're in the Grandma section (Which is a section in which I do not shop).

    55. Re:Why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      > Use black electrical tape to cover the LED. Peel it back off when you're taking the eBay photos a couple years from now.

      Also, when tasking the e-bay photos, you might want to place the black electrical tape on any reflecting surfaces just in case you forget to put your clothes on when taking the photo like these people did.

    56. Re:Why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, the only people who would normally shop at Old Navy without advertising buy their clothes from Old Navy. The sole purpose of Old Navy commercials is to annoy everyone else to the point of suicide so Old Navy will become the dominate garment retailer by killing off the competition's customers.

    57. Re:Why by OldSchoolNapster · · Score: 1

      I am the kind of geek that can appreciate a cool shirt. I am not the only one. I have not been tricked by any commercials to wear certain clothes. I have learned to appreciate good clothes. Despite suggestions to the contrary, I have my own style, which includes my own favorite type of jeans. I am not saying you have to shop at the Gap to have style. I am suggesting that many geeks should broaden their horizons a bit and see what's out there.

      This doesn't just apply to clothes either. I say this as someone who has spent too much of his life locked in his room, hacking away at my computer. This summer, spend as much time away from your computer as possible. Get out. See the world. Go out on the weekends, check out a few bars, mingle with the populace.

      I'm not saying to ignore your inner geek, I know that's not possible or desireable. On the other hand, there is much more to life than being a good geek. This is not a "cooler than thou" post, it's just what I have learned from my own experiences, and now humbly present for your consideration.

      btw, I'm not trying to knock anyone for wearing Walmart clothes, just pointing out that the Gap tends to have cooler stuff, at least for my taste. I don't really care to follow what some massive corporation, Walmart shoves down my throat. Ever notice that their music selection sucks?

      To expand on what type of geek I am, I would add that while I do place some importance on my own clothes, I really don't care about anyone else's. I spend way more time on the computer than in any store, or to be honest anywhere else. I have grown weary of this one-track life and have started to appreciate things I once thought of as unimportant. Maybe I've just been online too long.

    58. Re:Why by thrash242 · · Score: 1

      Yes, Wal-mart's music selection does suck, but so do the selections of just about every store I've been to, which is why I don't do my music shopping anywhere but online or sometimes pawn shops. But then I listen to pretty unusual stuff that's not in the mainstream.

      I too have my sense of style. It's pretty geeky, actually. The only shirts I ever buy from stores like Hot Topic (which is somewhat closer to my style than the Gap, but still far off) are their Nintendo and video game shirts. I have a disdain for what most style-concious people wear, that's all. Lately I've been wearing some pretty worn (they didn't even come that way) jeans and various tech, game, horror, and music shirts. Pretty boring, yeah, but I'm not conserned that much with it.

      There's nothing wrong with having non-geeky interests, but to me, clothing and fasion is pretty shallow an interest to spend much time on.

      This summer, I plan to spend lots of quality time on the computer, reading, playing airsoft, restoring an old 30s radio, writing interactive fiction, playing GameCube games, and maybe start writing music again. So I don't just sit at the computer all the time either, but I don't do the bar thing, or socialize, or get in the sun or any of that (those things all give me headaches).

    59. Re:Why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      we once hooked one up to a neon sign transformer. a little unspectacular though....

    60. Re:Why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      "Part 2 - Blocking

      1. Go to the hardware shop and pick up a nice hammer drill and a drill bit of similar diameter as the LED

      2. Turn the device with the LED off.

      3. Drill the shit out of the LED"


      While were on the topic of tape, why not just use a bit of electrical tape to cover the LED instead of drilling it out. That way, you can also get the LED back if you want.

    61. Re:Why by InfiniteWisdom · · Score: 1

      0.7 is the voltage drop across a regular silicon diode, not the light emitting kind. It's often said that red through green LEDs have a voltage drop of 1.7v,
      You're right... its been a while since I took my electronics course.

      Not "also."
      I should have phrased it more carefully. The also was supposed to be "in addition to changing the LED"

    62. Re:Why by Frogbert · · Score: 1

      Okay seriously I like the suggestion but I have to point out that there is a common household substance that light CANNOT go through that is paticulary common around this time of year.

      Aluminum foil... A little dot of that under your masking tape and you'll save plenty of tape.

    63. Re:Why by MeanJeans · · Score: 1


      Should I throw in the SED joke - Smoke Emitting Diodes?

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  4. Best X-Box mod ever... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    So there.

  5. wtf by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    simple solution: don't buy things with annoyingly bright blue leds on them.

    or cover them with insulation tape.

    next

  6. What a wiener. by Niet3sche · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Shuji Nakamura is not to blame here any less than Henry Ford is to blame for cars clogging up the roads now.

    In any event, isn't unification what we're looking for now in computing? Isn't it a nice thing (that has spun an entire cottage-industry of mods and such) that we can get our computer "look and feel" to match our decor? To match itself, for that matter? Looking around my desk, I see some green, red, yellow, and orange LEDs. I would be tickled if they could all be more unified. With, of course, the exception of my HDD LEDs, which I like to be able to notice out of the corner of my eye.

    Sounds to me like someone's got a case of the (pre-)Mondays. ;)

    1. Re:What a wiener. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unity, grasshopper, does not lead to balance, nor to good taste in all things.

    2. Re:What a wiener. by Seehund · · Score: 2, Insightful

      But unification can defeat identification. I like that the LED on my monitor turns from green to orange when it enters a DPMS mode. On my computers, activity on the IDE and SCSI buses are indicated by different colours. My old mobile phone indicated "low battery" with its LED flashing red instead of green (the new one doesn't have any LED at all, so checking that it's really turned off in a dark cinema theatre requires more than a quick glance down my breast pocket).

      Some LEDs still do serve a genuine purpose other than to "look cool" and match the decor.

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    3. Re:What a wiener. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Sounds to me like someone's got a case of the (pre-)Mondays. ;)

      "When you really don't feel like starting the week, does anyone ever say, "sounds like a case of the mondays"?"

      "Naw man, shit, naw i believe you'd get your ass kicked sayin somethin like that..."

    4. Re:What a wiener. by Kent+Recal · · Score: 1

      I had one of these "flashing" phones (///), too and personally I found the permanently flashing LED annoying as hell.

      It's not like the LED ever stops flashing. There is no setup-option to make it only flash when SMS is waiting or battery is low.
      It just flashes on and on and frequently annoys the hell out of anyone sitting nearby, e.g. when it's laying on a table.

    5. Re:What a wiener. by chgros · · Score: 1

      You mean whiner.
      Unless I missed some kind of sausage metaphor.

  7. Mmmmm Blue by JazzXP · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm a fan of blue LED's, but I'm kinda getting sick of them, they're everywhere. Companies need to realise that there are other colours too... why don't we see more purple ones (I did have a burner that had a purple one, but that's the only device I've seen that came with one)? Or maybe a light green rather than the regular boring green?

    1. Re:Mmmmm Blue by baryon351 · · Score: 1

      I love the things too, myself. They're plain now compared to a couple of years ago, but that's ok. in time things will even out and return to a good mix

      My only problem with them is my eyesight doesn't allow me to focus on the things. I see a nice pinprick of green or red or orange LED... but a big fuzzy blob of blue for the blue ones!

    2. Re:Mmmmm Blue by adamjaskie · · Score: 1

      I would be a fan of a nice, muted blue LED. One that is still a nice cold blue colour, but is not a piercingly bright point source.

      /me goes at a 3mm blue LED with some sandpaper to see if it works.

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    3. Re:Mmmmm Blue by stmpynode · · Score: 1

      I have exactly the same problem with blue LED's and blue text. They turn super fuzzy and I can't stand looking at them.

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    4. Re:Mmmmm Blue by theancient2 · · Score: 1

      If you are getting tired of all of your blue LEDs, you may send the devices to me, at this address:

      123 Fake St.
      Toronto, Canada

      I haven't yet owned a single blue LED. I'd be disappointed if everyone went back to boring green by the time I can afford a new computer/monitor/phone.

    5. Re:Mmmmm Blue by jaoswald · · Score: 1

      Do you wear eyeglasses?

      This is probably a side-effect of your choice of light-weight polycarbonate, which has a higher chromatic dispersion than glass.

    6. Re:Mmmmm Blue by incom · · Score: 1

      Does it mean I'm obsolete if all I have are red/orange/green leds?

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    7. Re:Mmmmm Blue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      123 Fake St.
      Hey, that's my address!

      And blue is too popular now. In the case mod I'm doing, I will use green for power and red or orange for HDD. I will have blue LEDs in my Musketeer system monitor, though, but it looks classic. Just like my stereo (Pioneer SX-525).

    8. Re:Mmmmm Blue by Jester99 · · Score: 1

      In a circuitry lab my friends and I had to take last year, we were developing circuits to monitor when events occurred... Our circuits were all hooked to speakers so they'd beep whenever the event triggered them. A lot of us also added an LED that would blink on at the same time. So in the front of the lab, next to the giant case of resistors and the giant case of capacitors was a small box of LEDs. Most of us just fished out a red one or a green one and stuck it in.

      The professor was most amused by my friend, who deliberately grabbed the single purple LED and jammed it into his circuit. We think his grade was higher than ours only because it tickled the professor enough to watch that purple LED.

    9. Re:Mmmmm Blue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I'm tired of bwue. I wants purpuwl.

      How in the fuck is this +5 Insightful????

    10. Re:Mmmmm Blue by ShadowBlasko · · Score: 1

      Nope, its a personal thing. I have the same problem with some particular shades of neon. (Bromo blue to be exact).

      I have about 20/20 vision, but certian wavelengths of blue light appear to have halos or auras around them. At night (duh) backlit blue business signs are just a big blue blob to me. No problems with other colors, just the deeper blue ones.

      Whats really odd are the new "hyper bright" blue LED's that the Ohio State Highway Patrol are using on their rear light bars on their cruisers. When I come up on one of them at night, and they have someone pulled over, I honestly have to look far away from the light or it takes up my entire field of vision.

      So, if someone wants to find the exact wavelength of Bromo Blue neon, or those LED's the OHP is using, they can tell me what frequency it is that kicks my ass

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  8. Are there really that many? by Tango42 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Looking around, I can't see any blue LEDs. There is one blue light on my Bluetooth docking station, which might be an LED, but it's covered by a clouded plastic button, so I can't tell, and it certainly isn't bright. Does anyone else have as many blue LEDs around them as thing guy says he does?

    1. Re:Are there really that many? by cmacb · · Score: 3, Interesting

      "Does anyone else have as many blue LEDs around them as thing guy says he does?"

      Nope, not me.

      Doesn't it seem odd that everything this guy owns has blue LEDs? He must replace his entire collection of electronic devices every month or two. Must be nice. The only thing I have with a blue LED in it is a small flashlight that uses one AA battery and is almost as usefull as a full sized flashlight (except for the slight color distortion). These things are great.

      He's right though about manufacturers tending to over-use new technologies. People behind the scenes who market individual components such as this, bluetooth devices, dimmer switches, and on and on, seem to have a disproportionate impact on what finds it's way into our homes than we as consumers do. Do they use focus groups for design issues such as this, or do they just GUESS what will sell?

      Whatever they do often doesn't work for me. Which is why I changed from someone who has to have the latest version of everything (like the author of the article apparently) to someone who is quite happy to get last years model, maybe, and if the price is right.

    2. Re:Are there really that many? by a-dac · · Score: 1

      Just have one blue on my logitech speakers.

    3. Re:Are there really that many? by Otter · · Score: 1
      I'm even more backwards than you -- I don't believe I've ever even seen a blue LED. Unless those blue case illuminators in the ThinkGeek banners are LED based.

      In any case, I imagine the posting of this story here will have a salutary effect on the web poll on the same page: "Would you seriously consider adopting Linux for your desktop PC?"

    4. Re:Are there really that many? by dpbsmith · · Score: 1

      Maybe he's exaggerating a bit, but I certainly have noticed the annoying trendiness of overbright blue LEDs. There's one in my face right now on my LaCie d2 52x24x52x CD writer.

      The other day I was with a guy with a spiffy new cell phone where the whole thing lit up in bright blue. Stupid. Blue isn't a particularly easy-to-view color. He says he finds his cell phone screen hard to read because of it.

      I normally watch television in an almost-dark room. My Radio Shack powered indoor antenna has a blue led on it that is so bright that even when it is TURNED AWAY there is an annoying blue glow from where it reflects off the wall immediately behind it.

    5. Re:Are there really that many? by Tango42 · · Score: 1

      May I recommend duct tape?

    6. Re:Are there really that many? by LinuxHam · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Does anyone else have as many blue LEDs around them as thing guy says he does?

      I think a lot of people missed the comment the author made about his job reviewing stuff. That means he's going to have TONS of new stuff all around him all the time.

      But no, as for me, I remember being a little taken aback the first time I drove my car at night with the car charger for my Nextel i730 in the socket. My car has the accessory socket clear on the passenger side of the center console, nearly in front of the passenger's left knee. The first time I glanced out the passenger window I realized how freaking bright that blue LED is. It took a little getting used to, but now when I look out the passenger window at night, I have a bright blue dot right in the middle of my view. Thanks, Motorola, ya bastids. At least its not showing up in my mirror.

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    7. Re:Are there really that many? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just checked and I don't own a single blue LED anywhere in my house.

    8. Re:Are there really that many? by firebomb · · Score: 1

      sorry..i do :P

      i got 4 blue led fans in this pc, and the fan controller (4 knob controller) has 4 blue leds when its turn on.

      and my mouse has an annoying blue scroll wheel

      xbox also.

      i guess its not as much...but its blue by my choice

    9. Re:Are there really that many? by ianjk · · Score: 1

      I picked up a $29(US) Portland dvd player that has one that is so #*&%ing bright I had to use black duct tape to cover it up. It literally lit up the room while watching a movie with the lights off.

      My biggest beef with them is the kids that put them on their rims and windshield wipers...

    10. Re:Are there really that many? by dasmegabyte · · Score: 1

      A focus group is a rather expensive thing. It's also time consuming. So you can't have one for every design decision you want to make, unless you're an extreme programmer.

      On the other hand, looking around, seeing that the best selling devices have blue LEDs, and noticing that the cost difference is negligible, is very cheap and takes no time at all.

      Personally, I love blue LEDs, though they are sometimes a bit strong. I have a blue backlit receiver with a dimmer, and I find that, in the dark, the regular display is a bit too bright, but the dimmed version is about perfect.

      If you want to dim your own lights, just wire a nice resistor in series with the LED...

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    11. Re:Are there really that many? by Jeremy+Erwin · · Score: 1

      I have two devices with two blue leds-- a sonica and a pair of "EV" speakers. The LED on the speakers is so obnoxiously bright that it's usually covered with something-- a paperback novel, for instance.

    12. Re:Are there really that many? by Jane_Dozey · · Score: 1

      /me looks around, scratches head, puts on glasses and turns off the lights just to make sure.

      Nope, I have 2 green ones staring at me, 1 orange one whenever my HDD does something and if I turn on my speakers i have a red one 2. Other than that the only blue I can see is my jeans.

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    13. Re:Are there really that many? by Monkelectric · · Score: 1
      I realized how freaking bright that blue LED is

      The mod chip on my XBOX has a blue LED. It *literally* lights the entire room at night.

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    14. Re:Are there really that many? by cemaco · · Score: 1

      I can't afford to replace my gear so often. There are lots of greens and reds. God I hadn't realized how many till just now. I only find 3 blue. A set of his and hers Dell Axim Docking stations for myself and the wife, and one cell phone which actually has all 3 previosly mentioned colors.

    15. Re:Are there really that many? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think a lot of people missed the comment the author made about his job reviewing stuff.

      That explains it. He's just trying to get some free vacation by faking a case of MBLS (Multiple Blue Light Syndrome).

    16. Re:Are there really that many? by BrianMarshall · · Score: 1
      Do they use focus groups for design issues such as this, or do they just GUESS what will sell?

      Remember that Coke did a lot of consumer testing before bringing out "New Coke"... you're walking through the mall, someone asks you if you want to participate, you take a little sip of each (even though you are not actually thirsty at that point), and you pick the one which is sweetest.

      Unfortunately, after they bring out "New Coke" and you are thirsty, the last thing you want is something that tastes like super-sweet cough medicine.

      You do a focus group on your new device, maybe in a brightly lit area, and people like the light-sabre LED....

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    17. Re:Are there really that many? by bprime · · Score: 1

      I'll admit to having 3 or 4 blue LED's in my room (antec sonata...and a few peripherals), but there are things that are FAR FAR worse. Last week I built a computer for my friend's girlfriend (which to me seemed kind of like that story about the French guy with the big nose who writes someone else's chick love letters on her boyfriend's behalf, but never mind that).

      Check out the case - here . My GOD that thing is an eyesore, but she was insistend, because "IT'S PRETTY!!!". I convinced her to let me at least replace the two "rainbow" fans with some coolermaster blue LED ones, but still! she's using this computer for word processing, not running light shows! All she needed was some fricken' laser beams attached to it. Start das blinkenlights jokes now.

    18. Re:Are there really that many? by chickenrob · · Score: 1

      man, am I out of it. not a single blue, and my system is no small thing... about 20 some odd devices and counting... I had one cool blue led on this cheap phonic amplifier I bought for my church... It was a monitor amp so it put iton a rack on stage but always turned the rack to face out because the blue led had a pretty drastic effect makeing it look like we had the latest gear... It was as if the blue light was the source of power that glowed so bright and filler the room with fabulous sound.... little did they know it was the cheapest thing in that rack.

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  9. Bitch, bitch, bitch by Oligonicella · · Score: 1

    I've got an HP with a blue power button. I put tape over it. How hard is that? Lazy bastard can't self-modify his self-purchases?

    1. Re:Bitch, bitch, bitch by Niet3sche · · Score: 1
      I've got an HP with a blue power button. I put tape over it. How hard is that? Lazy bastard can't self-modify his self-purchases?

      Nah, like you said, he's too lazy. And HERE is where slashdot comes in, with my cottage-industry observation above - let's get someone to offer to "mod" his stuff for him! :)

    2. Re:Bitch, bitch, bitch by hyc · · Score: 1

      Both of my firewire drive cases have blue LEDs, and there's two years betwen when I purchased them. I didn't notice how bright they were right away, but when the room lights are off there are two piercing beams of light shining out. This is definitely a bit distracting since they're sitting on the same rack as my A/V gear, and they're very visible when I'm watching movies etc. But they make a pretty intense nightlight...

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    3. Re:Bitch, bitch, bitch by Derkec · · Score: 1

      Frankly, I'd much rather a green LED than a blue one that has a piece of tape over it. That's not nearly as slick. You're also proving his point that the blue ones are visually distracting and too damn bright. They make the end user take steps to address the intrusiveness. That's a problem.

  10. Then choose another device by GarthSweet · · Score: 5, Insightful

    First I don't believe his list of items. I buy a lot of high tech items and unless I just bought everything new yesterday and hunted around for blue LED versions of products, I don't think I could gather a list of devices so extensive, all with blue LEDs.

    That said....unless someone gives him all his devices for free then geesh just buy different devices! If you are getting all your devices for free and then you have the nerve to complain about the color of the LED then shut your friggin pie hole before I give you a punch in the throat.

    1. Re:Then choose another device by Idarubicin · · Score: 2, Informative
      That said....unless someone gives him all his devices for free then geesh just buy different devices!

      Ian Johnson writes a regular column for the Globe and Mail called The Chic Geek. He also edits the technology section of the paper.

      You can be certain that manufacturers regularly send him stuff in the hope that he will review it. Additionally, you can be sure that they will try to send him the 'sexiest' and most eye-catching products from their line--which is all the stuff with blue LEDs.

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    2. Re:Then choose another device by System.out.println() · · Score: 1

      That doesn't change the fact that he's getting free stuff. He should stop complaining.

      There are 2 possibilities:
      1) He's buying all this stuff himself. In which case, he shouldn't complain, because he picked the ones with the blue LED's.
      2) He's getting free shit from manufacturers. In which case, he shouldn't complain, because he's getting free shit. One of the other comments mentioned that he should share all his free toys with those of us who don't mind blue LEDs so much. I concur.

    3. Re:Then choose another device by cemaco · · Score: 1

      The man's job is to complain about his free shit. It's called reviewing them. You are just jealous because no one will pay you to play with all the new stuff.

    4. Re:Then choose another device by System.out.println() · · Score: 1

      Yes.
      Yes I am.

      OTOH this guy isn't really reviewing anything... he's just bitching about electronics in general. Had he mentioned a single specific model whose blue lights he didn't like it might be something of a review.... but he just made generalizations like "a USB hub".

  11. life? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    I think the writer of that article needs to get a life! Of all the things to gripe about geez...

    1. Re:life? by kistral · · Score: 1

      I think the writer of that comment needs to get a life! Of all the things to gripe about, geez...

    2. Re:life? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the writer of that comment needs to get a life! Of all the things to gripe about, geez...

  12. the LEDs are ok... by evanbd · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's those Xenon HID headlights I hate. You know, the ultra-bright, kinda bluish ones that blind you late at night as they come around the curve. Those seem bright enough to be unsafe.

    1. Re:the LEDs are ok... by DrLZRDMN · · Score: 4, Interesting

      those lights can be ok if they came with the car or were proffesionaly installed, when used properly they point to the ground more than regular lights and won't blind you like even a normal light but if some ricer who thinks their cool slaps them in and has them point straight forward its easy to hurt peoples eyes even at dim then there unsafe and should be banned for street use

    2. Re:the LEDs are ok... by Jin+Wicked · · Score: 2, Insightful

      those lights can be ok if they came with the car or were proffesionaly installed, when used properly they point to the ground

      Maybe, but if the guy behind you with those blinding lights is driving an SUV that sits way higher than your car and is tailgating you like mad (like they all seem to do here) having them point at the ground doesn't really help.

      In cars they aren't so bad unless the other driving is heading straight at you, but I swear nothing could make those things less blinding in most of these huge, high-sitting SUVs.

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    3. Re:the LEDs are ok... by jhtrih · · Score: 4, Informative

      "Ricer" refers to the "moding" of "import" cars for looks and zero performance gain. I believe there are be far more derogatory words one could use to insult on of asian decent.

      From the Urban Dictionary:
      Usually some 17-21 year old male with heavily modified "externals", "posing" in some Honda (typically a civic), giving a bad name to those real tuners who drive fast Hondas!

    4. Re:the LEDs are ok... by mog007 · · Score: 5, Funny

      but I swear nothing could make those things less blinding in most of these huge, high-sitting SUVs.

      I have a hammer that disagrees with that statement.

    5. Re:the LEDs are ok... by Jin+Wicked · · Score: 1

      I have a hammer that disagrees with that statement.

      If *I* had a hammer... well there's one on my wishlist, but right now the one I have is borrowed. I suppose I could always "take care of them" then wipe down the handle and blame it on the room-mate.

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    6. Re:the LEDs are ok... by saden1 · · Score: 1

      Rice boy has become universal. It doesn't apply just to Asians any more. Latinos, whites and even brothers can now be referred to as rice boys. The term as evolved.

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    7. Re:the LEDs are ok... by yomegaman · · Score: 1

      I agree, checking your rear-view mirror at night is like staring into the sun these days. It's like some sort of "arms race" to see which manufacturer can install the most blinding headlamps. Maybe I'm just getting old but I never used to have to flip the mirrow to the reflected view setting and I find myself doing it constantly now.

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    8. Re:the LEDs are ok... by Moloch666 · · Score: 1

      Even worse, you ever notice how much those lights flicker as the car bounces. At times I almost quickly move to the side thinking an emergency vehicle is behind me.

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    9. Re:the LEDs are ok... by Preposterous+Coward · · Score: 1

      Yeah, this happens to me all the time at stoplights -- I'll be practically blinded by the SUV headlights behind me being reflected off my sideview mirror. Recently I've tried jockeying the mirror around with the servos in an attempt to reflect the lights right back into the owner's face, but I haven't found the right angle just yet :-(

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    10. Re:the LEDs are ok... by nevek · · Score: 1

      HID means High Intensity Discharge, Those are found on very high end cars, its usually around a 2000$ option on some cars. They are basically a extremly high voltage spark, that is pure white, it is so white that it looks blue..

      Xenons are a pack of bulbs you can buy for around 30$ they only last around 6-7 months, and run off a bit higher voltage, (some will melt wirieng harnesses) They are just really bright white with a blue tint on the actual bulb.

      Its when people point these upward problems occur.

    11. Re:the LEDs are ok... by Voltronalpha · · Score: 1

      Yes the "blue" light headlights are in fact very irritating. I hadn't really know anything about the technical reasons behind the blue LEDs showing up in mass quantity, I have however chosen not to make a few purchases because of their invasiveness, in specific, the HP pavilion f1703 17 inch flat panel.

      Here is a picture of it with the power button off.



      Now when you turn on the power button located right in the center bottom of the screen it is illuminated bright blue for the whole switch and is so distracting you can't block it out. I had looked at the unit at a local Best Buy and hoped that in the digital menus it would have a way to turn that off, but no alas it did not and they (and HP) lost a sale because of the bad decision to make place a annoying light in my face where I would have to look constantly. Reading the article I would assume that the gentle man has a HP monitor with one of those power buttons, as it is roughly as he describes it the size of a quarter.

      Sure it looks like a cool device, but said looks make it unusable for any "useful" length of time and since I have the ability to exercise free choice I bought instead an entirely different monitor which low an behold has a teeny light green on LED and is orange when the monitor is inactive.

      Sometimes the best thing is not to screw with something that works perfectly well and has no good reason to change other than "because we can now"

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    12. Re:the LEDs are ok... by Voltronalpha · · Score: 1

      Here is the picture I was talking about, just imagine the power button being a bright LED blue.....

      http://ugr.e-nitiative.be/products/images/116188 62 .jpg

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    13. Re:the LEDs are ok... by iabervon · · Score: 1

      It's a really tempting idea, but on second thought, do you actually want someone behind you in an SUV to be blind?

    14. Re:the LEDs are ok... by puetzk · · Score: 1

      it never referred to the driver - it was 'rice' boy at first because the car in question was always a (Japanese) Honda Civic.

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    15. Re:the LEDs are ok... by dargaud · · Score: 1
      It's those Xenon HID headlights I hate. You know, the ultra-bright, kinda bluish ones that blind you late at night as they come around the curve. Those seem bright enough to be unsafe
      I can't agree more about forbidding those. Those things live a long lasting blind line on the retina as they pass. And their put thoe blue light in much smaller reflectors too, so the light is concentrated in one sharp spot. There should be a legal minimum surface area for reflectors.

      I bought a car last month (okay, two but the 1st one died within a week) and the salesman was giving me his pitch on various models: "And this one has those amazing blue xeon light..." I went off track and gave him an asshole rant he's gonna remember.

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    16. Re:the LEDs are ok... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Xenons are a pack of bulbs you can buy for around 30$ they only last around 6-7 months, and run off a bit higher voltage, (some will melt wirieng harnesses).

      More amps, not volts.

    17. Re:the LEDs are ok... by Enonu · · Score: 1

      What's yer hammer's name? Mine's Earl.

    18. Re:the LEDs are ok... by schovanec · · Score: 1

      I've had to point my side mirror at the ground because the guy tailgating me is hugging the centre line instead of driving in the middle of the lane. His headlight reflecting off the mirror and staring me in the face.

    19. Re:the LEDs are ok... by schovanec · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes. I read an atricle about that in Consumer Reports once I think. The reason is that the light fall-off at the edge of the "light cone" is much sharper with the HID lights than with conventional lights. This causes them to appear to flicker from bumps in the road.

    20. Re:the LEDs are ok... by danb35 · · Score: 1
      Xenons are a pack of bulbs you can buy for around 30$ they only last around 6-7 months, and run off a bit higher voltage, (some will melt wirieng harnesses)
      No, they run at exactly the same voltage as the stock bulbs--the same voltage as the rest of your car's electrical system. Some of them run at a higher wattage, which (since the voltage is the same) means more current, which is what sometimes melts wiring harnesses. The more-powerful bulbs are illegal for street use, but that doesn't seem to be enforced much (if at all).

      Oh, and the blue-tinted bulbs (not all Xenons are tinted) are just stupid. You're paying a premium price to get bulbs that, by measurement, produce less light, and produce it in a color range which is harder to focus on.

    21. Re:the LEDs are ok... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mine's "The Minister".

    22. Re:the LEDs are ok... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no HID and Xenon are very much the same thing.

      HID's apply and eletrical current thru Xenon gas, which creates an arc of bright light.

      the shitty bulbs for 30 bucks are just halogen bulbs w/ blue tint.

      all HID's/ Xenon systems have auto-leveling sensors in them, that aim the light to the LEGAL height. you only notice them because they are different on the road. if everyone had them you would be saying that the dimmer yellow lights are a pain because they distract you.

      besides brighter light is a good features, you can see things much better with them because the light range of them reproduces sunlight better then traditional bulbs. and goes further.

    23. Re:the LEDs are ok... by Jetson · · Score: 1
      I believe there are be far more derogatory words one could use to insult on of asian decent.

      Perhaps the worst is "banana". It's the Asian equivalent of "wigger", implying someone who is yellow on the outside and artificially white on the inside.

    24. Re:the LEDs are ok... by Malc · · Score: 1

      When fitted properly and implemented with a self-leveling system (now mandatory in many places), these aren't a problem. They're actually very nice to drive with as they invariably have the European spec cut-off which sweeps up at the edge and lights up the side of the road and road signs very effectively. What I hate in N. America (besides the really crappy out of date headlight illumination pattern) is the lack of enforcement of headlight alignment. I hate driving at night on multilane roads - so many cars have their headlights misaligned and pointing upwards in to my mirrors dazzling me. It's annoying and dangerours. Crack down on that and you'd also crack down on the misaligned HIDs. It's also about time the DOT spec was updated for the 21st century, and proper regulation enforced at the same time.

    25. Re:the LEDs are ok... by SmackCrackandPot · · Score: 1

      Absolutely. I thought it was just me, but something really, really pisses me off with those cars that have those headlights that are bluish-purplish when they go up a hill and are extremely bluish-white when going straight ahead. I do wonder if they are installed incorrectly, or if the driver couldn't afford the officially recommended set.

    26. Re:the LEDs are ok... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      but I swear nothing could make those things less blinding in most of these huge, high-sitting SUVs.
      I have a hammer that disagrees with that statement.
      Would the name of your hammer be MC?
    27. Re:the LEDs are ok... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If *I* had a hammer...

      I'd hammer in the morning.
      I'd hammer in the evening. ...all over those f*cking headlights.

    28. Re:the LEDs are ok... by gumbi+west · · Score: 1
      all HID's/ Xenon systems have auto-leveling sensors in them

      I have no idea where you got this idea... there may be some that are auto adjusting, but most you can adjust just like all other lights.

    29. Re:the LEDs are ok... by gumbi+west · · Score: 1

      My monitor at work has this problem. I just taped over the LED and now everything is fine.

    30. Re:the LEDs are ok... by gumbi+west · · Score: 1

      Please give it to this guy too...

    31. Re:the LEDs are ok... by Alcohol+Fueled · · Score: 1

      Oh my god, I HATE those headlights! I always see them on two kinds of vehicles. Either some little car that someone "tricked out" and added them on, or on big ass SUVs. They're TOO bright. I have passed cars with their bright headlights obviously on, and then passed one with the HID headlights on, and the HID lights were so much brighter. They suck, and whoever has them on their car should be forced to stare into them for an hour non-stop.

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    32. Re:the LEDs are ok... by Alcohol+Fueled · · Score: 1

      I have that HP flat panel monitor you're talking about. I don't find the blue LED in the bottom center of the monitor to be distracting at all. Whenever I am reading a website, I am usually looking high enough above the LED on the screen, usually to a point where I can't see it. I use the monitor daily, for a few hours at a time, and its not something that's majorly distracting. Except if you're sitting in a completely dark room, then it is a lot more noticeable.

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    33. Re:the LEDs are ok... by LMariachi · · Score: 1

      Self-leveling or not, bluish headlights have inherent problems beyond what can be measured in lumens. Bluish-white light is terrible for night vision, and has far more backscatter so it doesn't have to be pointing right at your eyes to be blinding.

    34. Re:the LEDs are ok... by weiyuent · · Score: 1

      It's those Xenon HID headlights I hate. You know, the ultra-bright, kinda bluish ones that blind you late at night as they come around the curve. Those seem bright enough to be unsafe.

      I know what you mean but I'll nitpick by claiming that, in fact, HID headlights aren't any brighter than incandescent ones. All headlights are designed to cast about the same amount of light onto the road ahead. The difference is that an HID beam is much more intense because the beam is narrower and more coherent (also by design).

      Such a tight beam profile isn't possible with incandescent bulbs regardless of reflector design because the filament-source is relatively large. A large Fresnel lens is needed to minimize the incoherence of the beam. HIDs, however, are much more like point-sources, so the beam can be precisely shaped as desired.

      Note that HIDs headlights could easily be designed to emit wider, more diffuse beam profiles similar to their incandescent predecessors, and I suspect that they eventually will be. For the moment however engineers are in love with the efficiency of a coherent beam, and stylists are in love with small headlights.

    35. Re:the LEDs are ok... by M.+Silver · · Score: 1

      I've had to point my side mirror at the ground because the guy tailgating me is hugging the centre line instead of driving in the middle of the lane. His headlight reflecting off the mirror and staring me in the face.

      I've had people do that on long trips... easing all the way left, then all the way right, and they track right along with you. Easing over onto the rumble strips generally differentiates the "Whoops, I was following their taillights instead of watching the road" folks from the "Ha ha, I can shine my headlights in their face" folks. In the latter case, I just slow down until they give up and pass and go play with somebody else. And let 'em sweat about whether I'm going to return the favor.

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    36. Re:the LEDs are ok... by T-Ranger · · Score: 1

      Ok, who else was wondering what Intel high end CPUs had to do with hard drives, and why Intel would put headlights on their hard drives?

    37. Re:the LEDs are ok... by gfody · · Score: 1

      banana?
      you mean twinkie

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    38. Re:the LEDs are ok... by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 1

      The problem is that when a car goes over the peak of a hill, even cars with factory HID lights will beam straight into human eyes.

    39. Re:the LEDs are ok... by JUSTONEMORELATTE · · Score: 2, Funny
      but I swear nothing could make those things less blinding in most of these huge, high-sitting SUVs.

      I have a hammer that disagrees with that statement.
      It's OK if your tools are talking to you, just please remember that you don't HAVE TO do everything that they say.

    40. Re:the LEDs are ok... by lifespan · · Score: 0

      There has to be a market for rear view mirror presets for that purpose. Here in Australia we have rear-pointing spotlights for SUV powertripping hockey Mums like this. Please Note: For the purposes of truth in advertising Australians are not allowed to refer to 4WD vehicles as SUV's as the owners are very rarely capable of anything sporty. Canyonero.....Canyonero.......

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    41. Re:the LEDs are ok... by arantius · · Score: 1

      I agree. Most of the time when I see a car with these new style headlights drive by, I just see some brightly illuminated ground, not the big glare of a classic headlight.

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  13. Cost by caston · · Score: 0
    I think the issue is that Blue LEDs used to be really expensive compared to the others.
    In Zone 3 (laser combat) there was 3 teams (red, yellow and green) but not blue becase the LED's very more expensive. So maybe in the years since it has become much cheaper to make them and people have started using them.

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    1. Re:Cost by Linker3000 · · Score: 1

      Blue LEDs are not THAT much more expensive than the other colours now, especially if you buy in bulk

      I used to have a role in electronics R&D and when the blue LED first became available (around 1983-4?) and they cost around 30UKP each for quantity, compared to plain red at around 0.08 each.

      Sometimes when I'm on a business trip to Middlebrough or Kingston upon Hull in the UK, I drop in to the local 'pound shop' type stores where LED key ring flashlights in various colours (high-brightness red, green, purple, blue or white) are all 1UKP each. Considering that the white and blue key rings are fitted with two CR1620 lithium batteries, it's actually also a good way to buy the batteries alone because they're normally about UKP1.99 each elsewhere!

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    2. Re:Cost by TheOnlyCoolTim · · Score: 1

      Do you have any idea what the hell possessed people to pay thirty pounds for an LED? Just curious...

      Tim

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  14. LED's by Hinkey · · Score: 1

    Did no one tell this idiot that he has a choice over what he buys? is it our fault that his dumb-a$$ went out and bought every periferal he could find that had a blue LED? No. So i therefor vote that we write an article about annoying article writers and how we have to read more and more of there articles. :)

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    1. Re:LED's by surprise_audit · · Score: 1
      Did no one tell this idiot that he has a choice over what he buys?

      Isn't it possible that he doesn't actually buy all the stuff he's bitching about?? A little clicking around on the GlobeTechnology web site produced this about "The Chic Geek" column that Johnson writes:

      The Chic Geek is dedicated to some of the more notable gadgets and technology the globetechnology.com team encounters, from awesome to oddball, during the course of its tech coverage.

      The author, IAN JOHNSON, is editor of Globetechnology.com and has been covering technology for more than a decade. An avid video gamer and gadget enthusiast who builds PCs and small networks for fun, he spends FAR too much time with computers, according to his wife and children.

      I wouldn't be at all surprised if some of his gadgets (maybe most of them) turned out to be freebies for review.

    2. Re:LED's by Hinkey · · Score: 1

      In that case he should be greatfull he doesnt have to pay for these things like everyone else :)

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    3. Re:LED's by surprise_audit · · Score: 1

      Yeah, that's kinda where I was going with that... :)

  15. It's just because they're new by yope · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's a matter of popularity. We've seen red, green, yellow and amber colored LED's since some 30 years now, they're "passe". Blue LED's on the other hand (as well as White and Cyan) are colors that have become possible just 10 years ago, and they where still very expensive and not really efficient. It's in the last 4 or 5 years, that techology has allowed cheap, efficient and bright blue LED's.... maybe that's why they seem to look so.... cool!

    1. Re:It's just because they're new by gumbi+west · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, pure greens are fairly new...this is the only reference I can find, but I recenly interacted with some people who work in a field where we were dieing for pure green LEDs for a long time, and they just recently got them.

  16. Has to be said by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I, for one, welcome our new blue LED overlords.

    or

    Imagine a beowulf cluster of these!

    or

    1. blue LEDS
    2. ???
    4. profit!

    1. Re:Has to be said by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't forget...

      In Soviet Russia blue LED's light you!

  17. I know by awx · · Score: 1

    I know what he means, and I totally agree with him. I try and fit filters over some of the brighter LEDs around.

    For example, my girlfriend's PC has a magnifier in the front that puts out a 4cm-squared window of blue light. We fitted some pink paper to it and it's now a very very muted glow that doesn't keep us awake.

    I don't need LEDs screaming out at me all the time - that's why my racks have dark smoked-glass doors.

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    1. Re:I know by Xugumad · · Score: 1

      Why do people leave computers on at night? Really? If you're doing processing, fine, good point, otherwise... huh? Is the 30 second boot time in the morning so terrible? We have limited fossil fuels, could people perhaps try saving them instead of finding ways to work around the problem?

    2. Re:I know by awx · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Bittorrent and ISO downloading. We're in the UK so we actually have to pay more than 10p/year for our power too.

      I also run a public-access VMS account service.

      That's why we have to leave our computers on. Perhaps you could consider that your usage patterns aren't the same as the next person's before you open your mouth... huh?

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    3. Re:I know by Xugumad · · Score: 1

      That's great, sorry, had expected the "It damages HDs when you power them up/down" argument, it's what I got back the last few times. If you're doing stuff with it, great, that's kinda what I meant by "If you're doing processing, fine, good point".

    4. Re:I know by cyt0plas · · Score: 0, Redundant
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    5. Re:I know by jcoy42 · · Score: 1
      Why do people leave computers on at night?

      Because turning sensitive electronic equipment on and off causes the components and traces to shrink and expand (due to heat), which causes them to fail faster.

      My favorite story was about a VMS system a local college had purchased. They got 2 at the same time, serial numbers off by one. One was put in production, the other in development. The production system was left on all the time, but the development system was frequently turned off. Over time, the production system had few hardware problems, but the development system had regular hardware failures. The development system cost far more than the production system.

      Think of it this way: When do light bulbs burn out? When they are left on? No. They usually burn out when you first turn them on.
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    6. Re:I know by realdpk · · Score: 1

      I've been thinking about this, and knowing how much power my computer uses (~200W), I figure it is more fuel-efficient and certainly cost-efficient to leave it on overnight than to have to buy replacement components slightly (or worse) more often.

      (When I say fuel efficient, I am referring to the fuel required to a) drive to the store to get the part, b) manufacture the component, c) ship the component to the store probably from overseas with those boats, etc. The "hidden" costs)

    7. Re:I know by awx · · Score: 1

      I've never heard that one before. The traces on a VAX/VMS system should be wide enough to withstand that. I call BS.

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    8. Re:I know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whatever. Call bullshit however you like, you know nothing about this. It's not the traces, though in modern CPUs this may start becoming a factor. It's the moving parts shrinking and expanding, wearing out and fatigueing. Solid state components are susceptible as well, but again, the effect is not as drastic.

  18. Signal Me a New One by qw(name) · · Score: 1


    Maybe I need a blue LED that screams, "HEY! YOU! Everything's NOT ok! I'm still on /.!

    Stupid Lameness filter...

  19. Funny you should mention that... by Mister+Transistor · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Just the other day, one of my friends just got a new Nextel and the mobile DC cigarette lighter plug has this annoyingly bright Blue LED on it. He's pissed, says it totally destroys his night vision and it's about 100x brighter than it needs to be to verify the cigarette lighter adapter is bottomed out.

    I remember when Blue LED's were first introduced in the April 1 issue of Byte Magazine (sometime around 1987 IIRC) as an April Fool's joke! Finally, two or three years later they were actually invented!

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    1. Re:Funny you should mention that... by nutznboltz · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I remember when Blue LED's were first introduced in the April 1 issue of Byte Magazine (sometime around 1987 IIRC) as an April Fool's joke! Finally, two or three years later they were actually invented!
      I remember the same thing about 3" disk drives. Is it worth going back through old April Fool's Day issues of Byte looking for what's next?
    2. Re:Funny you should mention that... by rgmoore · · Score: 1
      it's about 100x brighter than it needs to be

      I think that this is the real problem. It's OK that the blue LEDs are popping up everywhere, but there's no need to have ones that are bright enough to blind you. A new computer at my work came with a set of speakers that has a blue LED power light, and it was bright enough to be annoying to look at from all the way across the room. The computer was practically unusable with the speakers powered on because the light from this power indicator was so distracting. I eventually had to put a piece of red paper tape over it to mask most of the light; even several layers of ordinary masking tape wasn't enough.

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  20. They're so cool. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If a device has a blue LED in it, it MUST be good.

    1. Re:They're so cool. by TheRaven64 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Apple kit comes with white LEDs. The worst one is the one on the front which indicates the machine is in standby mode by gently pulsating. The problem with this is that it's really hypnotic. First the machine goes into standby mode, then my brain does...

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    2. Re:They're so cool. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But it (PowerBooks) don't come with HD activity LEDs! Or any useful indicator LEDs at all for that matter, except the purdy pulsating power LED. Gah! Idiots!

    3. Re:They're so cool. by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      I actually hadn't noticed that. When the machine is closed, I need to know whether it is off or in standby mode (which the power LED tells me), and how much power is left (which the row of LEDs on the battery tell me). I'm not sure what use a HD activity LED would be. If I want to know how much the hard disk is being accessed I can run activity monitor, which tells me far more than a flashing LED would.

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    4. Re:They're so cool. by Ben+Urban · · Score: 1

      If you run GNU/Linux you can set it so that that front LED also acts as your HDD LED. That's how mine is set up. (I think it's a kernel option.)

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  21. I feel so out-of-date by nutznboltz · · Score: 1

    I got to run out and buy some new stuff so I can be bothered by blue LEDs too.

    1. Re:I feel so out-of-date by doj8 · · Score: 1
      I'd have to go run out and buy something to even have any LEDs at home, let alone be bothered by them. I can't think of anything I own which has any. I must nearly be unique nowadays.

      For the record, I own a technology company, but I keep that stuff at work. At home, I don't have a TV, computer or any other electronics.

      Wait... Wait... My bread machine has a red LED. So, I guess I'm not unique. Oh well.

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  22. crap. by SinaSa · · Score: 1

    I side with this guy.

    Can you imagine how catastrophic it would be if the public got a hold of these "blue" LEDs?

    Those blue guys from the Intel ads would have a field day!

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  23. Other uses than indicators by Benm78 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    First of all, the amazingly bright blue LEDs described are really not a good choice for indicators. The problem is not in their color, but usually in their rather small 'viewing angle' - this results in an idicator that is blazingly bright when viewed head on, but hard to see from an angle.

    As for the color, the blue LED does mark the quantum barrier surpassed by nichia a decade or so ago.

    Now, roughly 10 years after the introducion of the first practical blue LEDs, we see a whole range of LED products based on the leap made at that time. For example, UV leds are becoming more and more common, and find applications in money checkers, forensics and scientific appliances.

    Also, LEDs are becoming very usefull light sources in torches, automotive (brake)lights, traffic signals etc. etc.

    Also, keep in mind that many other colors of LED are based on the work by Nichia.. new bright green leds are, white leds are (using a blue led and a phosphor), and also advances in red and yellow leds were achieved.

    I think that idicators are just an over the top use of a technology that will bring us more and more interesting light-emitting devices for all kinds of uses.

    1. Re:Other uses than indicators by cadelor · · Score: 1
      Hi,

      Also, LEDs are becoming very usefull light sources in torches, automotive (brake)lights, traffic signals etc. etc.

      Unfortunately this could start to become a problem for thouse of us trying to do something about light pollution also. Especially if and when LED's can be used for street and security lighting.

      However as with most forms of light pollution it will depend on how they are applied. Plastering them all over the side of a building = bad. Directing/shielding them so that no light can spill above the horizon = good.

      Cheers,
      ~Al
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    2. Re:Other uses than indicators by hyc · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Red LEDs are definitely great for brake lights. I've gotten really fond of amber LEDs for turn signals, even though they're still ridiculously expensive compared to incandescent bulbs. I converted my car's turn signals to LEDs here.

      I'll probably convert the tail lights pretty soon. Having to replace any signal bulb once is one time too many, I think.

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    3. Re:Other uses than indicators by kasperd · · Score: 1

      The problem is not in their color, but usually in their rather small 'viewing angle'

      The blue and green leds on my Compaq laptop have the same viewing angle, which is about 180 degrees. So while it might not apply to all blue leds, it certainly is possible to make a blue led with a large viewing angle.

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    4. Re:Other uses than indicators by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But isn't it hard to replace a bulb turn indicator with a LED one? This is because some of the older blinkers are bimetallic and only work with a bulb that needs lots of current. Since the LED bulb probably uses less current, then the replacement bulb might not blink. My Honda Accord however blinks so steadily that I think it uses some kind of timer, that would probably take the upgrade fine.

      Mark

    5. Re:Other uses than indicators by Rinikusu · · Score: 1

      Just curious, but how *do* you replace these LED's? Is it a removable strip? Do you have to replace individual LED's as they go bad? Pardon me for the ignorance, btw.

      I see a TON of Cadillac's with the LED strip on the back for brake lights where 50% or more of the LED's are out. Same with some of the newer SUV LED brake lights and the amber turn signals. Are they just using cheap/shoddy LED's? Or is there a wiring problem? Or do LED's also fail?

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    6. Re:Other uses than indicators by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They usually have groups of several leds wired in series where the gorups are wired in parallel. If one led fails in the group the whole group of leds will not light until that one is replaced. Look closer next time and you might notice a pattern of squares or lines that dont work because these groups had one failure. Wiring in series is a bad idea when it comes to something like your brake lights.

    7. Re:Other uses than indicators by Polo · · Score: 1

      I think LED lamps are more attention-grabbing (distracting)

      I was sitting behind a cadillac the other day in traffic and the brake lights and turn signals were really annoying me, but I didn't know why.

      Then I realized what was happening. My eyes reacted quite strongly to them because they were LED lights. It was the instantaneous on and off times. I guess your eye gives more neural feedback to the LED instant-on and instant-off than the "gradual" on and off of incandescent lamps.

      If you get a chance to be behind a car with LED turn signals, you'll see what I mean, especially in low-light situations (you won't be able tohelp it actually). Cars with incandescent lamps will have relatively gradual on and off sequences that doesn't "catch" the eye in the same way.

    8. Re:Other uses than indicators by Suidae · · Score: 1

      That sudden on-off blinking is exactly why my homemade geek clock fades the blue LEDs on and off, instead of blinking them like the ThinkGeek clock.

    9. Re:Other uses than indicators by hyc · · Score: 1

      "isn't it hard" - well, it's not as simple as dropping in a so-called "LED-replacement" bulb. The fact is, those bulbs are crap and don't provide anywhere near the amount of light that's needed.

      In my setup using 4 Luxeon stars for one turn signal, the stars draw enough current to produce a regular blinking pattern. When you're actually using enough LEDs to provide the equivalent amount of light as the incandescent bulb you're replacing, the amount of current drawn will probably be enough to trigger the blinker circuit, even if it's not as much as before. My Luxeons draw 550mA through the blinkers. Not as much as the 2.5A that the incandescents used, but enough. Of course, if I convert the taillights too, then the entire combo will not draw enough current by themselves, and I'll have to use a loading resistor in parallel to make up the difference.

      So it's not a straight drop-in, but it's not that tough to make it work, either.

      Btw, my car uses an electronic blinker control, but it still expects a minimum level of current. Just because you have an electronic control doesn't mean it will be immune to these changes; they're supposed to monitor the current level so they can detect burnt-out bulbs.

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    10. Re:Other uses than indicators by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 1

      Having to replace any signal bulb once is one time too many, I think.

      Yeah, spending $1 and five minutes every five years is such a chore vs. spending $100 and an hour converting over for a car that might only last 15 years.

    11. Re:Other uses than indicators by hyc · · Score: 1

      1) you have no idea how much trouble it is to get to the taillights (or any of the signal lights, for that matter) of a Ford Probe. Trust me, it takes longer than five minutes. Worse is the reassembly time, things never go back together the way they were originally seated...

      2) five years is too optimistic. Look around you on the road and see how many new/late-model cars are driving around with missing/burnt-out signal lights. It seems to me that either OEM signal bulb quality has really gone downhill, or the bulbs are being driven out of spec. Having 3 out of 4 front signal bulbs burn out within a few weeks of each other on my car after only 4 years tells me there's something systematically wrong here.

      3) since signal lamps are safety devices, it's better that they *never* fail.

      4) $100 is exorbitant yes, but I'm a bleeding edge tech-freak and a car fanatic so I'm willing to spend it. If you're not, that's OK, don't. In a few years all of the car manufacturers will have completely migrated to LEDs, LED production volumes will go up, and unit prices will go down. There are already a couple concept cars out there using white Luxeon arrays for headlights. (I think that's a dumb idea personally; HID is still the efficiency winner here.) Solid state lighting is going to completely replace small-incandescent in a very short time. In the time since I completed this project, the end of last year, the price of the Luxeons that I used has dropped 33%, from $15 to $10 each. That's a sizable drop in only 4 months. The price drops will only continue to accelerate.

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    12. Re:Other uses than indicators by toddestan · · Score: 1

      I don't get it. Don't you want the turn signals to grab your attention though?

    13. Re:Other uses than indicators by Polo · · Score: 1

      hmmm... why not have strobe lights as turn signals then? ;)

    14. Re:Other uses than indicators by po8 · · Score: 1

      I would write the G&M article off as crankery, except I'm sitting a foot away from a problem device.

      I bought a Edirol PCR-80 MIDI/USB "keyboard controller" a few weeks ago. The thing has a superbright blue power led behind a Fresnel lens of literally 1/4" diameter. The Fresnel lens spreads the light quite nicely (unlike the blue LEDs the parent poster talks about), and the LED is really amazingly bright: it will literally light up a large room by itself.

      Obviously, the LED would be a huge distraction to me and to the entire band while we were trying to play in the evening, so it had to be fixed. A friend and I put down about 5 layers of masking tape and black marker over the top of the LED, and you know what? You can still see it just fine. In fact, it's still arguably too bright, though now livable.

      What were the designers thinking? The keyboard also has a reasonable-brightness green LED display used to indicate parameter information, so the power LED (and this cracks me up) doesn't match the other LEDs and doesn't give any irredundant information! (This in spite of the fact that there is actually a legend above it that says in large capital letters "POWER INDICATOR".) It apparently was just put there because the designers hated me.

      I almost took the device back just because of the power LED. I'm still not sure I shouldn't have. So I guess I have some sympathy with Mr. Johnson's complaints on the matter.

  24. Red vs Green by archonit.net · · Score: 0

    My mother got a laptop which was literally covered in blue LED's... I understand they have low power consumption but I really wonder if they're not chewing up her processing power as the laptop is seriously slow!

    But seriously, there was a study a long time ago showing that green taffic lights were easier to spot than red, contrary to the article which states that red lights were swapped with green ones due to the fact they were less invasive. Conflict here???


    Are there any /.'ers out there with some opinions to be shared as to whether green or red is easier to spot?

    Why do I care?
    These sort of results matter for a whole range of issues, mainly for grabbing attention --- ala advertising (especially the one at the top right now which seems to use a lot of red in it to grab attention - but I hadn't noticed for quite some time. The default garbage green that slashdot uses seems to work better!).

    But honestly those purple lights modders use on their cases stand out a lot more imho. And they look wicked!

    1. Re:Red vs Green by Oligonicella · · Score: 1

      "But seriously, there was a study a long time ago showing that green taffic lights were easier to spot than red, contrary to the article which states that red lights were swapped with green ones due to the fact they were less invasive. Conflict here???"

      Keep in mind the function. Red means danger, here on Earth.

    2. Re:Red vs Green by archonit.net · · Score: 0

      Keep in mind the function. Red means danger, here on Earth Ignoring the sarcasm intended when traffic lights were designed there must have been more thought put into them than just 'Make it red to make them realise it's dangerous to go through'. Red was chosen because it was easy to spot - primarily. That is, safety first.

      We've been living in a society where red means stop for so long that we refuse to listen to alternative points of view such as 'why not green for stop?'. Call it insane but if green was used 200 odd years ago as the default for 'stop' then your frame of mind would have been different.. "Green means stop, here on earth".


      Just try to see outside the square for once! What you call 'normal' is totally backwards to some other cultures. And if you refuse to see that then your pure ignorance is an indication as to why there are so many problems in today's society.

    3. Re:Red vs Green by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      It has nothing to do with 200 years ago. Red means stop in nature to a lot of different animals, man included. There are many insects that have red markings under their wings that they show to tell predators "Watch out! I'm dangerous!". Animals use red to issue a warning. So red meaning stop is an ancient genetic memory shared throughout nature, not some convention that was invented 200 years ago. Dumbass.

    4. Re:Red vs Green by archonit.net · · Score: 0

      Red means stop in nature to a lot of different animals, man included


      And that's why bulls, famous for charging at red sheets, are colour blind - to red.... ?

      Double dumbass to you..... The average persons ignorance is amazing.

    5. Re:Red vs Green by jd142 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      But just as many animals use other colors. Poison arrow frogs are a good example. They come in a many range of colors: blue, green, orange, and red, jsut off the top of my head. Gila monsters are the most poisonous lizard in North America, and they're pale or bright pink. The idea is that bright colors act as warnings, not a particular color. At the risk of grossly over simplifying, animals tend to use either camoflauge to hide from predators or really bright colors to warn away predators. Either "you can't see me" or "here I am, but if you touch me you die".

      Here's the link to a GIS for poison arrow frogs:

      http://images.google.com/images?q=poison%20arrow %2 0frogs&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&safe=off&sa=N&t ab=wi

      Not that google should be taken as a true random sample, but out of the first 16 pictures, 3 are red, 3 are green, 4 are blue, and 4 are yellow and 2 are combinations of green, yellow, and blue.

      A GIS for poisonous snakes shows mainly brown, one bright yellow and one a really nice bronze sort of color. No true reds though.

      Because people are accustomed to red as a warning, they have a tendancy to remember re-inforcing examples. That seems to be what you have done here. SO watch it with the dumbass, dumbass. ;)

    6. Re:Red vs Green by Ashtead · · Score: 1

      Red generally means "Stop!" not necessarily "Danger" unless you translate "Stop!" as danger ahead. Which may or may not be accurate. Green could also mean "Danger" depending on your point of view. For example, green for crossing traffic does imply increased danger to a pedestrian.

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    7. Re:Red vs Green by eizan · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It might also be that red is the color of our blood-- it might be evolutionarily optimal to respond most strongly to the a color that is guaranteed to be emitted when we are badly injured.

    8. Re:Red vs Green by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What exactly is your point about bulls? They're not "color blind to red", they're color blind period. The capes could be any color. Red capes just stand out for the humans watching.

      Besides, why would a bull need to be afraid of red objects? They're definitely not prey animals; They have no need for warning signs.

    9. Re:Red vs Green by Oligonicella · · Score: 1

      Uh, no. *ANIMALS* and *PLANTS* use red to indicate danger.

    10. Re:Red vs Green by Oligonicella · · Score: 1

      Double dumbass yourself, moron. Bulls indeed can see red. Read more.
      Here's a page to get you started on your opsin education. http://www.gpcr.org/7tm/struct/1FDF_list.html

    11. Re:Red vs Green by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not if the pedestrian is paralell to the traffic with the green light, as is usually the situation at intersections.

    12. Re:Red vs Green by Crazy+Eight · · Score: 1
      It might also be that red is the color of our blood...

      So, uh... Mr. Spock would make green stop signs?

  25. It's Just a Fad by G4from128k · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm sure that blue LEDs will fade in time. They were cool because they were new and rare. But novelty, by defintion, cannot last. Just wait a few years and everyone will think that blue LED are just so so early 2000's.

    Of course, by then we'll have some other over-used new display technology. Perhaps consumer electronics makers will use OLEDs to form a glowing full-color brand name logos. Then the space around our desktops and dens will look like a miniture cityscape with tiny glowing neonesque billboards for all the brands that we buy.

    Oh, and wait 20-40 years and blue LEDs will be back as a retro fad. The aging youth of today will look back to this time and will revel in the glory days when devices only had a single simple little blue light.

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    1. Re:It's Just a Fad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course, by then we'll have some other over-used new display technology. Perhaps consumer electronics makers will use OLEDs to form a glowing full-color brand name logos. Then the space around our desktops and dens will look like a miniture cityscape with tiny glowing neonesque billboards for all the brands that we buy.

      The next fad seems to be RGB LEDs we are still only seeing them in cell phones and such right now however give them a few years and I am sure every appliance will be fading in and out all the colours of the rainbow.

    2. Re:It's Just a Fad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Then the space around our desktops and dens will look like a miniture cityscape with tiny glowing neonesque billboards for all the brands that we buy. "

      This is the coolest idea ever. Props to you for thinking of it.

    3. Re:It's Just a Fad by gumbi+west · · Score: 1

      There is the whole energy efficiency things too. New York for example is switching its stop lights to save energy.

  26. He hasn't seen by _mt99 · · Score: 2, Funny
  27. Nozzle Lights by Accipiter · · Score: 1

    I'm just annoyed with every idiot sticking the blue LEDs to their freaking washer nozzles on the hoods of their cars. It's annoying, pointless, and just plain stupid.

    Of course, then you have the morons that stick them on the valve stems on their tires too. Ugh.

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    1. Re:Nozzle Lights by SomeoneGotMyNick · · Score: 4, Interesting

      HEY!!!

      I stick valve stem lights on my tires.... My motorcycle tires, that is.

      I bought a set of white tire lights and replaced the LED's with 10000mcd whites and now my motorcycle can be seen more easily at night by traffic in the next lane.

      You'd be suprised how invisible you are on a motorcycle at night without sufficient side lighting. Now people can at least see rings of bright white light from my wheels. I've even noticed less of a tendency of people trying to pull over into my lane thinking nothing was there. Then again, if the morons would remove the supposedly "cool looking" dark filters off of their headlights, they might see the reflection off the chrome.

    2. Re:Nozzle Lights by panurge · · Score: 1
      On the contrary, I find it extremely useful that morons put "I am a moron" indicators on the front of their cars so I can see them coming at night.

      All I need now is the 500KW carbon dioxide laser that will allow me to take appropriate action.

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  28. I concur. Same problem with the sky by GillBates0 · · Score: 5, Funny
    Blue LEDs have a piercing clarity that draws the eye immediately, and which can mesmerize. They shimmer, they twinkle, and they can be incredibly intense for such tiny points of light -- they're really quite beautiful. The problem is they're suddenly everywhere.

    It really pisses me off.

    The Blue sky has a piercing clarity that draws the eye immediately, and which can mesmerize. And at night, the stars shimmer, they twinkle, and they can be incredibly intense for such tiny points of light -- they're really quite beautiful. The problem is they're suddenly everywhere.

    Sorry...I must've rolled out of bed the wrong side too.

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    1. Re:I concur. Same problem with the sky by laejoh · · Score: 0

      Sorry...I must've rolled out of bed the wrong side too.

      Still beats rolling out the correct side of the wrong bed!

    2. Re:I concur. Same problem with the sky by dalutong · · Score: 1

      i would like to know, honestly, whether you came up with that sig yourself. or, if you didn't, where you got it. quite original. congrats on it if it is yours. congrats on finding it if it isn't.

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  29. I'm with him by Craig+Ringer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I tend to agree with the guy, personally. Blue LEDs, because they're usually stupidly bright, get really irritating, really fast.

    There are great uses for them - for example, my new keyring light is one, and I can not only see to open doors etc but could probably blind a mugger permanantly as well ;-)

    I think the use of super-bright blue LEDs for indicator lights is rather silly, though. I've replaced a couple in hardware I own, and put electrical tape over a couple of others I can't easily replace, because they were really god dammn annoying.

    My PC sits in the living room (connected to the TV), and I used to have to put something in front of it if we were going to watch a film to avoid blinding anyone on the opposite side of the room. The power LED produces almost as much light as my 19" monitor. This is stupid.

    As for posters who say "don't buy things with blue LEDs then" - (a) often you don't know until you've installed it, and (b) it's downright stupid to have to select devices based on whether or not the power light will drill a hole through your skull, instead of minor things like reliability or required features.

    1. Re:I'm with him by robotoverflow · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's one thing to be able to cover up your own LEDs but try going to a LAN Party where no-one else thinks that blue HDD activity floodlights are a stupid idea.

      Now that the damn things are all the rage the only game I ever get to play is Disk Activity 3: Arena

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    2. Re:I'm with him by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm with you. I bought a computer case which nowhere did I get an indication that the LED was blue. I would have probably bought it anyway unless I knew how tight the beam focus was. The damn thing was bright enough to shine through a layer of diffuse celophane tape AND two layers of masking tape. It would still project a visible beam onto the opposite wall.

    3. Re:I'm with him by DMNT · · Score: 1
      I tend to agree with the guy, personally. Blue LEDs, because they're usually stupidly bright, get really irritating, really fast.

      I guess that engineers haven't noted the simple fact that the eye is most sensible for blue light and least sensible for green light. Therefore green led next to blue led looks much weaker compared to the blue led with the same intensity (and thus the same power). Red colour is special in the sense that it doesn't make your pupil shrink (and that's one reason it's used in car taillights). I find green colour best, red is for warning, green stands for "everything OK" or "action". And maybe I'd prefer yellowish-green over true green.

      For possible solution they should use less power for those blue leds (if they have to use them for "coolness" factor). I remember I once read from a physics book that 5 simultaneous photons are enough for a nerve cell in retina to react for blue wavelength.

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    4. Re:I'm with him by gumbi+west · · Score: 1

      You can also use clear tape to tape a piece of white paper over the LED (or several), this is drastically decrease the intensity, but still let you see the LED if you look directly at it.

  30. Cheap blue LEDs by adamjaskie · · Score: 2, Informative

    I recently bought a whole bunch of blue LEDs for $0.45 each from LSDiodes.com. This was a whole lot cheaper than ANY other place I could find. They shipped promptly, too. I got my diodes about 4 days later. They are on the west coast, I am in Michigan's Upper Peninsula, so thats pretty good. Equals the fastest shipping I have gotten from Amazon.com. Other places wanted like $2.75 for a blue LED. LSDiodes has 3mm, 5mm and two different sizes of surface mount: Tiny and miniscule.

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  31. LEDs by MikeyG79 · · Score: 1

    I look around my desk, and don't see any blue LEDs, got green and red. Think the only blue LED I own is in my car radio.

    Also, it's not the color of the LED that effects it's viewing angle, it's the design of it. Look at the EverLED

  32. cycle 4 by ZHaDoom · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Its the cycle of technologie. Invent/expenisve/affordable/plaster it everywhere/anoyance/praticality.

    My bluetooth usb hub just got some electical tape to cover its flashing blue light. For a long time I was wishing I didn't have usb port in the frount of my case.

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  33. Just unscrew it... by FerretFrottage · · Score: 2, Interesting
    and replace it with a black light party light bulb.....hummmm now I'm off to be the inventor or the first black light LED

    damn Black light LEDs

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  34. Holy Hesu on a Half-shell... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He doesn't like the colour blue? Here's a hint: hit Jameco, buy LEDs and a soldering iron. Open the hardware and void the warrantees. Clip. Solder. Done. Sheeesh...

  35. Would you like that in blue, or blue? by Zooka · · Score: 1

    His rant doesn't fall on deaf ears here. Went to buy a case fan a couple weeks ago from a major electronics retailer (B.B.). (normally i buy parts online, but i had a gift card...) Anyhow, all I wanted was a decent black 80mm fan. They had 3 different brands/kinds of suitable 80mm fans. All of them were clear plastic with blue LEDs... no variety of colors, no black...

    I love it how the store figures that since blue LEDs are all the rage, that it's all they should sell. *rolleyes*

    (oh well, at least it goes well with the bright blue LED on the front of my Chieftec case...)

  36. Just a huge RANT by p0rnking · · Score: 1

    I'm not to sure what is worse ... the Globe publishing this guy's rant, or it making the "front page" of /.
    I thought /. was "Stuff that matters"? This is just one huge rant all about nothing.
    But I'm sure that anyone who has RTFA, did notice the poll that is on the same page ...

    "Would you seriously consider adopting Linux for your desktop PC?"

  37. the problem is that Industrial Designers LOVE them by gemtech · · Score: 1

    I've worked at Fitch and NPI, and all of the industrial designers love them. A major client wants them on every consumer appliances that we've designed. They're different, it's a fad. Anybody know about the eye's response to blue, as opposed to red/green/orange? Is that the attraction?

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  38. Bluetooth devices by vurg · · Score: 1

    Almost all of the bluetooth enabled gizmos I've seen have that blue LED. I had a Sony Ericsson T68i that has that flashing blue LED, but I think SE stopped using it in their newer models. My SE T610 doesn't have it. Maybe they found out that it's annoying? The Logitech Z680 speakers that I have also has a small blue LED (it's not bluetooth though). Here in Canada the flashing bright blue lights are reserved for snow-plowing vehicles and you can't pass these slow movers.

  39. forgot one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In Soviet Russia, blue LED lights YOU!!!

  40. I wholeheartedly agree by otter42 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ian Johnson, I feel your pain. Why, just the other day, my butler Jeeves remarked to me, "Sir, I find myself incapable of sleeping ever since you installed your 100" plasma computer monitor. The blue LED keeps me up all night."

    And I'm regretting giving the cleaning staff new blue-LED-equipped brooms last week. Those hundreds of dancing broom-handles put me in such a dreadful mood. How can I concentrate on exploiting those massively regressive tax-cuts when all those lights keep dancing in my brain?

    Indeed.

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    1. Re:I wholeheartedly agree by Have+Blue · · Score: 3, Funny

      Try chopping up all the brooms with an axe. Just be sure to never, ever tell them to fetch water.

    2. Re:I wholeheartedly agree by AndroidCat · · Score: 1
      Cleaning staff?? I thought you were supposed to strap the brooms to the backs of developers to get the floors sweeped? Oh wait...

      I knew there was a downside to outsourcing all those developer jobs!

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    3. Re:I wholeheartedly agree by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wtf, there is no 100" plasma monitor.

  41. Hey, we are hackers, aren't we? by SharpFang · · Score: 1

    I'm "outdated" it seems because I don't suffer from the "too many blue LEDs" syndrome, but how hard would it be to i.e. apply a drop of white paint (or even whiteout) or at least rubbing it with sandpaper, as result simultaneously decreasing brightness and solving the "low visible angle" problem by scattering the light? And if you think that's not ellegant solution, just solder a resistor in the device in line with the LED, decreasing the brightness to pleasant level.
    Yeah, the only blue LED I have on my desk (in mouse) is lined with a potentiometer so only pleasant dim blue glow is visible in darkness.

    One of characteristic properties of hackers seems to be that while they solve hard problems at once, they tend to complain about the simple ones indefinitely.

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  42. slowest day on /. by szo · · Score: 1

    ever

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  43. They're everywhere? by finker · · Score: 1

    The only one I have is on the front of my computer speaker and it's currently covered with black hockey tape because the thing used to annoy the hell out of me at night. At any rate, I don't know where this guy goes shopping, but I hardly see blue LEDs anywhere.

  44. Shuttle SB75G2 by ticklemeozmo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    As far as expensive gadgets go, the Shuttle SB75G2 has a blue power LED that lights up my ENTIRE LIVING ROOM when pitch black. The room is lit with a ghastly blue hue just enough to where you can navigate after shutting out all the rest of the light.

    This guy is right on target with this new "blue" craze because it's starting to take the coolness out of all the things I've custom modded with blue LEDs :(

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    1. Re:Shuttle SB75G2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same goes for my cheap Logitech 2.1 speakers..

    2. Re:Shuttle SB75G2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Dude, have you lost your coolness because of a colour? That sucks dude, I mean forget AIDS and wars and shit, you don't have a blue LED coolness thing now, that is hella worse man.....

    3. Re:Shuttle SB75G2 by tmortn · · Score: 1

      I have a barebones Ice Cube and it is the same way.. only with the clear casing over all the aluminum the whole freaking box lights up too. I like it but it can be a bit much from time to time and I kind of wish they had put a switch for the CPU light on the case.

      http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/handhelds/652 a/

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    4. Re:Shuttle SB75G2 by datadood · · Score: 1

      You could re-mod everything with UV leds. Now that would be cool!

    5. Re:Shuttle SB75G2 by chamenos · · Score: 1

      The problem with UV LEDs is that they have a short lifespan. The UV light that the LED emits tends to break down both the LED die itself and the resin most low-power LEDs are usually encased in.

  45. It'll be interesting to look back on by tarka69 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Every now and then I have a look around me and wonder what will look really dated in a few years; you know, those little things that mark a particular time and look completely daft to look back on.

    Things from today:
    • Blue LEDs (natch)
    • Swoopy-sketch logos (e.g. the Java logo
    • Beige-fucking-everything

    Care to add?
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    1. Re:It'll be interesting to look back on by finker · · Score: 1

      "Beige-fucking-everything"

      You must be an Apple zealot/owner, eh?

    2. Re:It'll be interesting to look back on by vadim_t · · Score: 1

      Huh? Seriously, beige is horribly ugly. I mean, switch used to look prettier than my computer. So I bought a Lian Li case. Pretty, and much more comfortable inside than the old ugly beige one.

    3. Re:It'll be interesting to look back on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Beige everything has been here for a long time, and already looks dated. Not that I care.

  46. Blue LEDs are sooooo last year by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Red LEDs are this year's colour to be seen with.

  47. my a mac by goombah99 · · Score: 1
    I HATE blue LEDs too. Actually what I hate are bright LEDs but blue LEDs are to the human eye much brighter and more distracting.

    Not that mac makes everything But apple does not festoon their products with leds or other distractions. even the look and feel uses color to atrract your eye to points it needs to go. That's one reason the brushed metal look is good despite it's detractors. Compare it to MS fisher price or many of the linux polka dot themes.

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    1. Re:my a mac by balloonpup · · Score: 1

      But apple does not festoon their products with leds or other distractions. ...ah, what about the big glowing apple on the back of their laptops? Or the throbbing power indicator during standby that can light up an entire room? Apple isn't exempt from such a rant, either. Not to say that I don't like Apple products, mind you, I just hate the throbber. See masking tape solution above to take care of it, though...

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    2. Re:my a mac by balloonpup · · Score: 1

      Whoops...the preview button's the one on the right. How about that...

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    3. Re:my a mac by Crazy+Eight · · Score: 1

      I like the pulsing LED on the hinge of a sleeping TiBook. It's really functional and isn't obnoxious. I think they did well with the LEDs in the power cable too in that it turns orange when the battery is charging. I share your distain for the glowing logo though, and I think the hinge LED might be driven with a duty cycle as it seems to have a flourescent light/CRT type of shimmer.

    4. Re:my a mac by balloonpup · · Score: 1

      I don't mind it so much on the TiBook in its smaller fashion...but things such as the G3 are a bit too much. Where I used to work, we had a whole pile of them in a particular office...it was creepy in there with the lights off, all these macs throbbing in unison! Eee!

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  48. good to see /. delivering well targetted ads... by soliptic · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... I saw this story accompanied by a ThinkGeek add for a "cool new LED clock" - blue, naturally :)

  49. Blue light... so shiny... by yalla · · Score: 5, Funny

    Have you ever stood in front of a SUN Fire 6800 cabinet? They have a big sucker of a SUN logo illuminated by those blue LEDs...

    So shiny... Happy happy happy... Must drool and watch... can't resist...

    I'm still waiting for the Octalus-like big mouth with needle-sharp fangs coming out of the cabinet snatching for my head :-)

    Yalla.

    --
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  50. This line got me... by DissidentHere · · Score: 4, Funny

    I don't need a bright blue blast visually screaming "HEY! YOU! EVERYTHING'S OK! I'M STILL ON!" all day long.

    The article was worth it because this line reminded me of Homer's Everything's OK Alarm:

    BEEEEEEEP, BEEEEEEP, IT WILL KEEP GOING, BEEEEEEP, BEEEEEEEP, EVERY 5 SECONDS, BEEEEEEEP, BEEEEEEEP, UNLESS EVERYTHING'S NOT OK, BEEEEEEEP.

    Now I'm going to spend all day searching through Simpsons tapes trying to find that episode.

    At any rate, hasn't this guy heard of duct tape?

    --
    "None of us are as dumb as all of us." - meeting mantra
    1. Re:This line got me... by NotWulfen · · Score: 1

      http://www.snpp.com/episodes/5F21

      The Wizard of Evergreen Terrace
      Production code: 5F21
      Original Airdate on FOX: 20-Sep-1998

    2. Re:This line got me... by eyeye · · Score: 4, Informative

      There really are alarms like that, I had a brief stay at a nuclear plant that beeped constantly.

      The theory is if an alarm fails it might not go off, but if it beeps constantly then you will notice if it fails.

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  51. I know what he means by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I built a set-top box to play dvd's and record TV out of a shuttle box - it has a bright blue power-on led which leads the eye while I'm watching a DVD ...

    I'm going to cover it, but it does seem a pity 'cuz it's so bling!

  52. So block it if it annoys you by Julian+Morrison · · Score: 1

    Go color over it with permanent marker or something. Or stick tape over it. C'mon, this isn't rocket science!

  53. I'm amazed by jgrumbles · · Score: 1

    How do people like him get a paycheck for writing a rant on blue LEDs? Hell, even if he didn't get a paycheck, who the hell gave his article the ok to get published? I'm sure there are better things to rant about than how Blue LEDs annoy someone...get a life.

  54. Nice advertisement by SuperBanana · · Score: 1, Troll
    recently bought a whole bunch of blue LEDs for $0.45 each from[long-winded advertisement snipped]

    Yeeesh, this has to be the most blatant advertisement i've ever seen posted as a comment.

    Blue LEDs vary anywhere from 23 cents to $2.45 depending upon brightness, lifetime, wavelength, and so on. Quoting a price without any of those specifications is worthless.

    Digikey and any of a number of other electronics suppliers will always beat the guy-who-thought-he-could-live-off-selling-LEDs places, especially if you order more than 10 units, because you get a nice quantity discount. They don't nail you on shipping, either.

    For the same reasons, bragging about how fast you(oops! Them, I mean, sorry!) ship things without specifying methods is pretty silly too. Oh, and Digikey stocked, when I looked...7 sizes and 10 voltages of radials in various combinations. At least that many SMD types, and still more panel-mount types...

    1. Re:Nice advertisement by adamjaskie · · Score: 1

      Advertisement? Its a review. I am not affiliated with them in any way, other than purchasing several LEDs from them. I am a college student at Michigan Tech. LSDiodes is a small company in Oregon or some such place. It was simply BY FAR the cheapest place to buy LEDs I could find, looked reasonably reputable, so I chanced my $18 on them. Is there something wrong with writing a review?

      You must think that everyone that posts a review of a movie or of a CD was somehow involved in the production of that movie or CD.

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  55. LED TVs? by harlows_monkeys · · Score: 1

    OK, so now that there are red, green, and blue LEDs...where's the LED TV?

    1. Re:LED TVs? by clearscreen · · Score: 2, Informative

      one word : Jumbotron

    2. Re:LED TVs? by krray · · Score: 1

      If you ever get a chance to see one ... they're almost amazing:
      LED TV's

    3. Re:LED TVs? by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      I'm surprised the G&M guy didn't bitch about the damned bright outdoor signs. Those are literally an eye-sore. Especially when it's Elron Hubbard on the side a Cthurch or pictures of happy Dianetics users.

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    4. Re:LED TVs? by tinkerton · · Score: 1

      a guy who was working on blue LED's told me over a year ago that the problem with LED TV's, or in fact any LED display , was that the blue LED's made them horribly expensive. So his company was trying to make cheap blue LED's, which would open up a huge market.

      kinda curious what the status is now.

  56. Re:Has to be said ... more like by LiMikeTnux · · Score: 1

    1. sell prodcts with blue LEDS
    2. piss off some retard
    3. sell other colors
    4. ???
    5. profit!

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    yap
  57. Too much blue? by guttergod · · Score: 0

    ... or just a slow day on the newsfront??

    --

    Apple built a platform for their ideas, Google built one for everyone's.

  58. LEDs by nukeade · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Blue LEDs aren't the only ones that can be irritatingly bright - I was in Prague a couple of weeks ago, and the LEDs on the thermostat were so bright that they lit up the hotel room at night! I had to put a sticker over them so that they would stop burning my retinas so that I could sleep. He's right - why do they need such bright lights for something that I don't normally care about, e.g. the mood of the heating system at the time?

    My theory is that it's a selling point on the sales floor - I imagine that a lot of customers, like me, gravitate towards the shiniest and/or brightest option.

    ~Ben

  59. I have exactly two... by MadAnthony02 · · Score: 1

    I own lots of electronics, but the only things I have with a blue LED is my RePlay TV 5060 and my Playstation 2. My monitor, printer, speakers, audio compnents, tv, router, switch, network card, zip drive, ect all have the standard red, orange, or green. My Apple Powerbook has the apple white blinking "snore" indicator when it's asleep.

    Granted, my iPod does have a blue backlight, as does my Nextel, but neither is an LED

    1. Re:I have exactly two... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Granted, my iPod does have a blue backlight, as does my Nextel, but neither is an LED"

      I think you'll be surprised to learn that those backlights are often actually LEDs under the case. I know for a fact that the iPod backlight works in this manner, and although I don't know for sure about your phone, many cellular telephones use the same backlighting technology.

    2. Re:I have exactly two... by dthree · · Score: 1

      I find the replay's blue led annoying, they don't belong on home theater equipment.

      The worst one I've seen is on the Canopus ADVC-100. Not only do they have a blinding blue LED on it, but there is tiny, red writing RIGHT NEXT to the LED. On a black case, this is illegible unless you turn the unit off and shine a bright spotlight directly on it.

      --
      "I forgot my mantra."
  60. They're everywhere! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...and there's one on a USB keychain drive attached to my car keys.

    ding, ding, ding! We have the answer: Geek.

  61. We need a system by IshanCaspian · · Score: 1

    I propose that we all agree on a simple system, whereby each color of LED has a specific meaning.

    For example:

    Green - power on
    Red - Something's wrong, or something you need to notice (e.g. hard drive light)
    Blue - User has done something really stupid and deserves to have his eyeballs burned out

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    But there is another kind of evil that we must fear most... and that is the indifference of good men.
  62. Can't do that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it would violate the DMCA

  63. Paint by nurb432 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Paint works well too...

    Even a sharpie marker..

    Choose a blue color and you can still have your light, at a reduced amount of luminosity..

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  64. Blue is low contrast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This guy has a good point, because blue is essentially the most useless color for an LED. Why? Because the way our eyes work, they provide the least amount of contrast possible. That's why you shoule NEVER EVER make a blue backlight. Am I the only one who has noticed that green and amber backlights are wonderful, while blue ones are crap?

    My girlfriend just got a blue LED clock, and the damn thing makes the room glow at night even on the DIM setting. I really hope this fad ends soon.

    aQazaQa

    1. Re:Blue is low contrast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      my car's headunit has a motorized face, and the display on the inside uses blue leds. it's not bothered me yet.

  65. Any other color? by Sad+Mephisto · · Score: 1

    What color would be better than a blue one? How do you think?

    1. Re:Any other color? by Sj0 · · Score: 1

      Well, off the top of my head (and the edge of my desk), comparing the blue power light on my speakers to the others, I'd say green is an option, as is amber, and even red. They're all nothing compared to the Blue power light behemoth on my cheap speakers from walmart.

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      It's been a long time.
  66. Re:the problem is that Industrial Designers LOVE t by ChrisMaple · · Score: 5, Interesting
    The eye is relatively insensitive to deep blue. As an approximation, sensitivity is 10 times greater to yellow-green light. Sensitivity is also low for deep red. To find a graph, look for "luminous efficacy".

    The attraction is that for many years blue LEDs were nearly impossible to fabricate. Next, they were expensive and inefficient. Next, just expensive. Now, the old problems are gone and they have the highest light output per watt of all LEDs, and they're filling a pent-up demand dating back three decades.

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  67. his own fault... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...wenn zu viel watchen der blinkenlights

  68. I have 72 blue LEDs on my watch... by Weavus · · Score: 3, Interesting

    One of the best waste of money I have found in a long time. Its even a feature of the watch that blue LEDs are the second most expensive LEDs you can get.

    Pimpin aint easy watch by PIMP

    A note that came with the watch said the battery only lasts 6-9 months if I need to know the time 15 times a day but who cares when you have such a rockin wrist peice.

  69. You know, I can ALMOST sympathise with him. by meatspray · · Score: 1

    I had a ericson T68i. When you turned the bluetooth on it had this beautiful brilliant blue led. The led was great. You could see it from a hundred feet away. Which is fine until you try to go to sleep or a movie. It would light through a bluejean pants pocket and uncovered, provide a strong enough strobe to illuminte a small room brightly (every 7 seconds).

    It was neat. I'm not so sure it was good that I was advertising that my phone was spewing bluetooth. The newer 616 has no flashing indicator for power or bt and I can't say that I've ever had a problem telling if it was on.

    1. Re:You know, I can ALMOST sympathise with him. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try visiting a planetarium sometime when there's a room full of fourth graders with blinking blue LEDs on their shoes. You'll get a fair approximation of the night sky over Las Vegas.

  70. Avoiding the Real Evil in the World by Bob9113 · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    I think we all know what really motivated this editorial. It's so obvious as to be as blinding as the blue LEDs he pretends are so bad. He is clearly afraid of tackling the true evil in the world. I'm talking, of course, about the two truly evil consumer products. Products so vile and twisted that one barely should speak their name. I'm speaking, of course, of Saran Wrap and packing tape.

    There. I've said it. We all know about it, but we all blithely wander through our days pretending these products weren't spawned from a twisted and sociopathic mind. Have you ever tried to use one of these products? The instant a section of either of these clear plastic "miracles of modern technology" comes away from it's little cardboard spool and tiny metal teeth (don't get me started on those sweater-eating life-ruiners), it becomes a slithering cellophane serpent, bent on destruction; maliciously bent on one brief instant of contact with itself. One tiny touch and it bonds to itself with a monomaniacal intensity rivalled only by Madonna's attempts to remain relevant to teenagers.

    What a weight off my mind. I simply couldn't stand the way we all ignore this problem any longer. I've kept this bottled up inside me for so long, I had forgotten what it feels like to think about anything else. I feel... so... free! You know what I'm going to do? I'm going to go to the supermarket, get the biggest bag of Kett'l Kook'd potato chips they have, and continue my hunt for the elusive potato chip that looks like Vincent Price.

  71. Can't read the article, but by xrayspx · · Score: 1

    I couldn't agree more with the idea. My new laptop is festooned with blue lights and it looks like a toy. The thing would look much more sharp without blue glows every couple of inches.

  72. Simple solution... by TechnoWeenie · · Score: 1

    This problem can be solved the same way I fixed the check engine light on my car... Duct Tape!

  73. 3 years ago, it was the opposite.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I swapped plain ol' leds for premium-priced blue ones not so long ago.. Now the reverse?

    Why the hell do humans always take a good things way to damned far? Huh?!

    Soda pop, sex, religion, blue leds, and on and on..

    1. Re:3 years ago, it was the opposite.. by BillX · · Score: 1

      I think Dr. Seuss foretold this.

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  74. Moron by djupedal · · Score: 1

    If the power went out unexpectedly, I'd probably realize it since the screen would go black -- the "on" LED isn't telling me a whole lot I don't already know.

    But if the display is sleeping or in low power mode and/or the computer is hung...?

    1. Re:Moron by Sj0 · · Score: 1

      Or if the high voltage portion of the monitor is damaged. It's nice having SOMETHING to tell you the screen is running when you're trying to isolate a dead component, and you're not sure if the monitor even has power. :)

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  75. Simple Solution by ajs318 · · Score: 1

    A link in another story mentioned the use of colour filters, and that gave me a brilliant idea.

    How about if we have a whip-round, get every Slashdot reader to send in a few coppers, then and maybe we could afford to buy Ian Johnson some brown- or yellow-tinted sunglasses. These will admit less blue light than red or green, so Johnson's poor eyes will be spared.

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  76. LED lighting by linuxpyro · · Score: 1

    On the front of my case there's one small blue LED that's lit whenever my comp is on. It doesn't seem like much, but when I turn off the lights in my basement, this one LED just about lights up one of the walls. Yeah, they may get overused, but they are neat. I'm planning on getting my entire basement lit with LEDs (various colors, mostly white though), as I like their light quality, and as they are extremely efficient.

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  77. Typical /. Overreaction by Iron+Fusion · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think some of you people need to take this article a little less seriously/literally. It was a hyperbolic rant intended mainly for the amusment of newspaper readers and the venting of a minor annoyance, not some sort of manifesto on How Things Should Be.

  78. Apple, while we're on the subject by uncadonna · · Score: 1

    Is there any way to turn off the sexy flashing white lights on the Airport base station?

    I realize there must not be many people in a studio apartment with Airport (it's a long story) but I have to cover the thing up with a plastic bucket to get any sleep...

    The "sleep" light on the iMac has the same problem.

    Masking tape 1) is most un-Applish and 2) won't really work because these lights are recessed in translucent plastic casing.

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    mt
  79. A little proud of our collection? by swtaarrs · · Score: 1

    This article seems more like a chance for him to brag about all his fancy new toys than a true rant...

  80. Note to Ian by Mr2cents · · Score: 1

    Note to the LCD manufacturer: If the power went out unexpectedly, I'd probably realize it since the screen would go black - the "on" LED isn't telling me a whole lot I don't already know.

    But if the screen is black, is it because something broke or because the power was cut? A power led tells you without the need for a voltmeter.

    --
    "It's too bad that stupidity isn't painful." - Anton LaVey
    1. Re:Note to Ian by Phenris+Wolfe · · Score: 1

      How many people actually fix monitors when "something broke"? My experience is that usually when it is broken, you end up replacing the monitor.

    2. Re:Note to Ian by Sj0 · · Score: 1

      Yeah....most people are pussies. I mean, who WOULDN'T just LEAP at the chance to play around with high voltage compoents which can put the hurt on just about anyone? Personally speaking, that's the kind of rush I PAY to BUNGEE JUMP for. If I can get it for free and fix my monitor in the process, it's just good economics, you know?

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  81. Tin foil pen cap by krygny · · Score: 1

    "I even got a pen the other day, one of those giveaways with a company logo, and it has a blue LED on the top that lights up as you write."

    Begs the question, could the light be sensed from a distance to determine what is being written?

    --
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  82. Chiq complainer by madchris · · Score: 1

    I suppose one who calls himself a "Chiq Geek" would need to find something totally useless to complain about. Up here in Cannuk land, the Glob and Mule is revered by the pseudo-intelligencia and otherwise tolerated as the typical news rag it is. With so much going on in our TechWorld of great importance, one would think a 'journalist' could find a subject not quite so silly to write about. Or maybe it's just me: I got the Easter Bunny Blues... today.

  83. Hosfelt is selling UV LEDS by LM741N · · Score: 1

    They look real pretty and put out long wave UV, so you won't have to worry about your cornea being burnt up. www.hosfelt.com

  84. Re:imagine trying to sleep with theses LEDs by parawing742 · · Score: 1

    My roommate at college has a G4 and the blue glowing LED light on the front on the monitor is bright enough to light up the room at night. Problem is that you can't easily cover it up because these Macs have a clear plaster layer on top of the LED which spreads the light even farther. We had to use a half-roll of black tape to try and get some of the light covered. You'd think that someone at the Mac R&D would realize that there are people that use these things in their bedroom.

  85. I agree... by RoloDMonkey · · Score: 1

    Although I agree with other posters that say that this sounds like the rant of a spoiled little boy with too many toys, I do have one exception.

    My car stereo came with a big triangular blue LED on the power button. It stays on whether the power is on or off. Although I have gotten used to it, everyone who gets in the car remarks on how distracting it is.

    Worse is that the light reflects of the windshield exactly where the mirror is. So if I am looking the mirror just right, one eye is seeing a blue reflection, and the other eye is seeing the image in the mirror. More than once I've done a double take, thinking I've got a cop on my tail. Really annoying.

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  86. I tue hate blue. by Sociodemographic · · Score: 1

    Mainly for the same reasons as already mentioned, they just stand out too much. Novelty at first, an annoyance later. My Cell Phone has a blue LED backlight for the display, and sometimes at night it is a little hard to read, because it is so bright, it really does kill your night vision. I am a bigger fan of the white LEDs, they look cleaner, and don't hurt your eyes as much. At least for me they don't.

  87. Blue Power-on LEDs and Smoke Alarms by mtDNA · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Like the guy says, having a bright blue LED power-on indicator on your monitor is incredibly annoying, especially since it's so obvious when the monitor is powered off.

    It's kind of like having a smoke alarm that beeps _unless_ it smells smoke, isn't it?

    BTW - a bunch of people have suggested putting several layers of masking tape over LEDs. It's easier (and tidier) to just put a little dot of tinfoil and a piece of transparent tape.

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    1. Re:Blue Power-on LEDs and Smoke Alarms by Spuffin · · Score: 1
      Like the guy says, having a bright blue LED power-on indicator on your monitor is incredibly annoying, especially since it's so obvious when the monitor is powered off.
      I think the power indicator LED is there for troubleshooting reasons. Most monitors with them have a button which has no difference from on or off. When you push the button, the LED comes on instantaneously, notifying you that your button pushing had an effect and the monitor is working. Without that LED people may push the button more than once, possibly turning the monitor back off, or they may think the computer is locked up since they should be seeing an image. I can't say that I've ever been bothered by my monitor's LED but perhaps mine is not as bright as yours?
  88. That's hillarious by redwoodtree · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Nice!

  89. I agree with this guy.. by zogger · · Score: 2

    .. I love blue leds-in my flashlights, I have several now with these, and I hope much cheaper replacement home lighting is to follow with them. I prefer the other colors for data indicators. Blue IS too intense for the background indicators.

    Of course, he forgot his early geek training, his monitor annoyance is easily fixed with duct tape....

  90. Re:For the President Only by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now will all the Democrats just shut the fuck up?

  91. No kidding by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 3, Informative

    I got an M-Audio Firewire 410 soundcard and the blue LED was beyond obnoxious. It was MUCH brighter than the red and green LEDs on the thing, by several times. Since it is the power LED, it was ALWAYS on. Also, if you powered the unit down, but left it connected to Firewire, it would proceed to blink at you, very frequently. I had put a peice of masking tape over it to dampen the light (and I could still see it through that). Finally, however, it just broke, and I'm not sending it in for service.

    It's not the use of blue LEDs that bothers me, it's how damn bright most of them are. An indicator that my gear is turned on is nice. An indicator that my gear is turned on that I can see from outside at night (makes the room glow blue) is more than just a bit of overkill.

    1. Re:No kidding by CharlieG · · Score: 1

      Hey, I like how my monitor works

      OFF - No LED
      Standby - Yellow
      On, working properly - Green
      Not working - RED

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    2. Re:No kidding by Eastree · · Score: 1

      >It's not the use of blue LEDs that bothers me, it's how damn bright most of them are.

      The brightness is not the only issue. What is also being overlooked is the visibility of certain bandwidths of visible light. Blue light appears far brighter than red or green. Green is very noticeable as well, but it's not as harsh in darker rooms. Red is not quite as noticeable as green, but in the dark it does not spoil night vision.

      Any way, I'll get back to blue LEDs. Yes, they're being made way too bright simply for power indication. This is partially due to the fact that even at the same brightness, the blue LEDs would seem much brighter than most other colors (excluding light ambers and yellows -- the exact hue can have extreme differences). Dim blue LEDs should be used in stead of bright or even regular-brightness LEDs.

    3. Re:No kidding by APL+bigot · · Score: 1

      I got an M-Audio Firewire 410 soundcard and the blue LED was beyond obnoxious. It was MUCH brighter than the red and green LEDs on the thing, by several times. Since it is the power LED, it was ALWAYS on. Also, if you powered the unit down, but left it connected to Firewire, it would proceed to blink at you, very frequently. I had put a piece of masking tape over it to dampen the light (and I could still see it through that). ...

      It's not the use of blue LEDs that bothers me, it's how damn bright most of them are.


      Well, this is Slashdot. Just hack the damn thing. Increase the value of the series resistor to dim the light. Or replace the blue LED with a green or yellow. (And maybe adjust the resistor value if necessary.)

      If you don't know which end of a soldering iron is the handle, ask a real hacker for help!

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    4. Re:No kidding by Garak · · Score: 1

      Yea blue LED's were being used on sound gear before I've seen them anywhere else. I got a great sounding little power amp for my studio montiors and it has the brightest little blue led I've ever seen. It lights up my bedroom at night so bright I can do shadow puppets on the wall. At work we have these mackie subs which also have the bright led's on em, a little gaff tape helps but then you can't tell if its on or not. Alittle dim green or red led is enough.

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    5. Re:No kidding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the blue LED was beyond obnoxious... Since it is the power LED, it was ALWAYS on

      Yeah, they should have made it so the fail LED only comes on when there's no power.

    6. Re:No kidding by MntlChaos · · Score: 1

      If you don't know which end of a soldering iron is the handle, ask a real hacker for help!

      Ooh! I know! It's the pointy thin end, right?

    7. Re:No kidding by operagost · · Score: 1

      The red doesn't mean it's broken, just that it's not receiving any signal. That could mean you're computer's in suspend mode, whereas in standby it's still receiving a small signal on one of the pins to keep it "warmed up".

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    8. Re:No kidding by RickL · · Score: 1

      On my keyboard at work, I have an annoyingly bright, flashing LED on my keyboard that indicates when I have email. Depending on my mood (and how much I want to avoid email), either the colored end or the tanslucent end of a Post-it note flag. Also, it doesn't leave adhesive on the keyboard.

  92. Re:the problem is that Industrial Designers LOVE t by spectecjr · · Score: 1
    The eye is relatively insensitive to deep blue. As an approximation, sensitivity is 10 times greater to yellow-green light. Sensitivity is also low for deep red. To find a graph, look for "luminous efficacy".

    *cough*
    "Blue" Cone Distinctions

    The "blue" cones are identified by the peak of their light response curve at about 445 nm. They are unique among the cones in that they constitute only about 2% of the total number and are found outside the fovea centralis where the green and red cones are concentrated. Although they are much more light sensitive than the green and red cones, it is not enough to overcome their disadvantage in numbers. However, the blue sensitivity of our final visual perception is comparable to that of red and green, suggesting that there is a somewhat selective "blue amplifier" somewhere in the visual processing in the brain.

    The visual perception of intensely blue objects is less distinct than the perception of objects of red and green. This reduced acuity is attributed to two effects. First, the blue cones are outside the fovea,[1] where the close-packed cones give the greatest resolution. All of our most distinct vision comes from focusing the light on the fovea. Second, the refractive index for blue light is enough different from red and green that when they are in focus, the blue is slightly out of focus (chromatic aberration). For an "off the wall" example of this defocusing effect on blue light, try viewing a hologram with a mercury vapor lamp. You will get three images with the dominant green, orange and blue lines of mercury, but the blue image looks less focused than the other two.


    [1] Which means that averted viewing will pick up blue better than direct viewing... which means that blue will tend to distract you if you look away from it.
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  93. One good thing about blue LEDs by BitwizeGHC · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Giant LED-based video walls no longer look like plates of hurl. I remember seeing these things on television years ago and they all had this orangey tint because the entire blue end of the spectrum was essentially verboten. Nowadays we have vibrant full-color ads on our blimps and in our stadiums.

    (Imagine UT2k4 on one of these! Driven by a Beowulf cluster of Power Mac G5s!)

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  94. Can't stand the truth, can you? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >Now will all the Democrats just shut the fuck up?

    Americans who accurately understand the meaning of patriotism will continue to speak out until the incompetent Republicans are finally held responsible for their ineptness, hypocrisy, negligence, and general stupidity.

    Impeach the dumb fuckers. No one has ever deserved it more than Bush and Cheney. No one has ever deserved jailtime more than they do.

  95. The what dept? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    if-thats-your-biggest-problem-you're-doing-allrigh t dept.

    But need to work on spelling before you're really alright.

  96. Kill 'em, you whiner! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Kill the damn LEDs, I say. Even a piece of tape nicely blots out the useless and annoying LEDs.

    I usually code late nights in total darkness, except small light from monitor with contrast turned so down it doesn't irritate my eyes. Even monitor power LEDs shine like beacons then, so I just taped them up. No more shining lights.

    I've also encountered LEDs in power supplies and motherboards (a flashing trio in a chipset cooling fan was the worst one), but I just cut their power connector. Though cutting wires voids the warranty.

    Network card and switch activity LEDs are nice, though. Nothing is quite like having your room throb at the speed of your downloads. :-P

  97. Thanks, now I'm depressed by John+Jorsett · · Score: 2, Funny

    I just went on a walking tour of the house, and I don't have a single thing with a blue LED in it. My crap is ancient. I'm poor. Jesus.

  98. News for Nerds?! by tundog · · Score: 1

    What does this have to do with technology. Yeah, blue LEDs are new. Big deal. You could have just renamed this article "Colors I dislike".

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  99. Hard to do by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 1

    First off, most devices don't advertise it. It's not like you always have the oppertunity of seeing a device operate before you buy it. Second they are often less annoying in pictures than in real life. My sound card had (it's broke now) a blue power led. In the pictures, it looked the same as the red and green LEDs. When I actually got the thing, it was apparent that the glowing lights were photoshoped in since the blue power light was about a million times brighter than the other lights.

    However most importantly, there are plenty of cases where there exists no alternative that has all the features you want, or the alternatives ALSO feature blue lights. Like one of my synthesizers, an Edirol SD-20. It also has a blue power light, though the same brightness as the other lights so it doesn't bug me. I didn't have a choice though, I wanted this synth. I didn't want an "equivilant" Yamaha or Korg or something, I wanted the Roland sound. I'm not going to buy something with a different sound just because this one has a blue LED.

  100. Go to Sam's Club by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 4, Informative

    They sell pants under their own brand called Member's Mark. They are nice, plain, dark blue jeans. They are also well made and like $13/pair.

    1. Re:Go to Sam's Club by Crazy+Eight · · Score: 1

      "Member's Mark"? Just what kind of club does Sam have?

    2. Re:Go to Sam's Club by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Guess what, I used to work for Sam's and the jeans they brand as Members Mark are actually manufactured by Calvin Klein. This could be a good or bad thing depending if you like them too.

    3. Re:Go to Sam's Club by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 1

      I'm not suprised, I have a pair of CK jeans and they look and feel the same. I never much cared, they seem well made and more importantly they look like jeans should. I am really sick of all the BS styles that kick around these days. Jeans are meant to be blue (hence the title Blue Jeans) and not faded, splotched, dirty looking, etc.

    4. Re:Go to Sam's Club by celery+stalk · · Score: 1
      Jeans are meant to be blue (hence the title Blue Jeans) and not faded, splotched, dirty looking, etc.

      Unless they got that way because..*gasp*..you wore them! Then, it's ok.

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  101. Ati Radeon 8600 "eyecandy" by Tei · · Score: 1

    For some reason my 3D card come with a some plastic glass and color leds that blink all the time. I never shutdown my computer and is always open, so in the nighs can see my computer 3D card is still alive ?:/ I dont understand the Ati designer, but hee... the card is good!

    Can anyone info why this hellish leds blink all the time inside my 3d card?

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    1. Re:Ati Radeon 8600 "eyecandy" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The lights blink because most people with killer 3D cards have case windows. what I don't understand is the tiny green LED on the bottom of my hard drive. It's just an ordinary 40GB HDD, and I can think of no good reason for tiny green lights on it.

  102. Yep it's an advertisement by foldedspace · · Score: 1

    The store looks like a good place to get a couple of LEDs. I loved the little tutorial on circuit design.

    Digikey is horribly awkward. Who the heck needs 1000 1.0 Ohm 5% 0.10 Watt resistors? PDF catalog shopping is just so wrong too. Minimum orders, etc... Obviously not meant for the hobbiest.

    Personally I'm getting tired of all bright (or super or ultra) LEDs. It's a great idea if they're used for illumination and not a status indicator lamp. My frickin Logitech mouse and Dell keyboard both have annoyingly bright LEDs in them. Why? Color is irrelevant, it's the intensity that bothers people.

    I have tons of electronics plastered with LEDs in my house and at work and there's not a single blue LED among them. The article's author is regretting a fad he hopped on or something? I don't know anyone with ANYTHING that contains any blue LEDs (off the top of my head) either. I guess it's kind of like fake gold trim on a car. Some people like it...

  103. Re: logitech speakers by mellonhead · · Score: 1

    I have logitech speakers on my desk and at night, the blue led is nearly blinding. I have to angle it away from me.

  104. Let's help this guy out... by drewhearle · · Score: 1

    Seems somebody rolled out of bed on the wrong side today
    Great, let's make him feel better by slashdotting his server...

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  105. Re:tax cuts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wait... wouldn't regressive tax cuts be tax cuts that targetted the poor more than the rich? Like a sales tax supposedly does?

  106. I don't like blue LEDs... by daveschroeder · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...when I see them along with red LEDs on a Crown Victoria in my rearview mirror.

    Seriously though, more and more companies are starting to use LEDs for warning lighting on emergency vehicles. They don't draw huge amounts of power like incandescent systems, sometimes requiring additional batteries and/or heavy duty alternators; they don't require high voltage triggers like like strobe systems; and they've gotten bright enough to handle about any application other than illumination. It's taken a while for the blues to get bright enough to useful for these tasks; some early iterations are barely visible next to their red counterparts in daylight (though they've gotten to the point now where some of these LED systems are so bright they seem to be giving you eye surgery).

    One interesting thing if you look at the pricing: blue and white still often cost more than double the price of red, amber, or green.

    1. Re:I don't like blue LEDs... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      more interesting still, its amazing for watch fat, sexless jobless poor welfare using jackoff fuckers like yourself constantly espouse about shit you know nothing about and nothing you say has any value to anyone whatsoever. shut your god damn, stupid motherfucking fuckheaded pig fucking cakehole you mac loving pigdog swinehundt fucker. shut the fuck up.

  107. They are so effective in blinding peple... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    ...that here in Brazil, those bad/mad drivers install these blue leds close to the license plate to blind policemen, avoiding tickets.

    And there is no legislation to avoid these lights yet.

  108. The color is fine. Brightness is the problem by Animats · · Score: 4, Informative
    On the annoyance front, there was a fad about a year ago for really bright power-on indicators. I have a Shuttle PC and a DVD player that will light up a dark room with their blue power-on LEDs. That's excessive.

    The color, though, is correct. The standard NEMA rules for indicator colors, used on industrial gear for decades, are

    • GREEN Normal status.
    • AMBER Abnormal status. Operator should be aware that an amber lamp is lit.
    • RED Trouble status. Operator should take action to make the red light go out.
    • BLUE or WHITE On, or other non-specific meaning.
    So blue and white are actually the default colors. Red should be used only for trouble indicators. We're still getting over the cheap red LED glut of the 1980s, when everything had red LEDs.

    Anything that rackmounts should follow these rules. It's not only annoying, but a headache, to have red lights for non-trouble conditions in a rack of equipment. IBM always has.

    1. Re:The color is fine. Brightness is the problem by topham · · Score: 1

      My Girlfriend bought a DVD player about a year and a half ago, it's one of the 'cheap' ones. Plays anything and works well.

      The only complaint? The Blue LED light on either side of the disc tray. They always glow. Does not matter what mode the player is in, it glows forever. They are bright and annoying. We've considered opening the unit up and replacing the LEDs.

    2. Re:The color is fine. Brightness is the problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The standard colors, unfortunately, are designed for people with fairly good color vision. I, personally, have a hell of a time distinguishing between Green, Amber, and Red LEDs (positioning of the LEDs and the kinds of plastic filters can have a significant impact on recognition). Blue, on the other hand, is much easier to distinguish. Now, if I had to distinguish between blue and purple LEDs, I'd probably be pretty unhappy too.

      I can barely describe my sigh of relief on seeing my first Juniper router light up. :-)

    3. Re:The color is fine. Brightness is the problem by (C)0N0(R) · · Score: 1

      I occasionally need to work in poorly lighted phone/data rooms/closets. Often LEDs on a panel emit enough light to make the label of the light unreadable (without employing LED flashlight from utility belt.) I like the backlit labels, and a 'remote' map of the ports in use, rather than at the port itself. A good friend of mine is about as color blind as one can be. He sees only shades of grey. We often work on telecom systems, and just can't use the color coding, he can only spl it pairs- I will have to see if he can differentiate LEDs by their brightness.

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    4. Re:The color is fine. Brightness is the problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      "RED Trouble status. Operator should take action to make the red light go out."

      *Smash, Smash* Red lights gone, back to quake.

    5. Re:The color is fine. Brightness is the problem by illumin8 · · Score: 1

      Sun has recently started using Blue LEDs to represent another condition: Safe to remove/unplug.

      This is highly useful in situations where a system board needs to be removed while the system is in operation. Dynamic Reconfiguration allows you to map out the system board that is in use, and the blue LED on the system board lights to let you know that it has been powered down and is safe to remove.

      I'm all for using blue LEDs to represent a different type of status than standard (green-power, yellow-attention, red-emergency), just please don't use them for power indicators... annoying.

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  109. The 'Silver Bullet' Bush needed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.buzzflash.com/buzzscripts/buzz.dll/sub3

    Memorandum to 9/11 Commission Members from THE President of America

    Here is the letter that we needed to stop 9/11, but Osama, that inconsiderate S.O.B., never sent it to me, even though I once sent him an autographed picture of me sitting in front of that pick-up truck without an engine that Karl has me pose in down on that ranch we bought just before being appointed President.

    Dear Mr. Bush,

    We are going to hijack four airliners, on Sept. 11, 2001, and fly them into the World Trade Towers and the Pentagon.

    Oh, I forgot to mention, we would be hijacking them from Boston Logan Airport and another airport to be determined. I'm sorry I can't be more specific. (I know you prefor more specific information, but we have some details to work out yet. We will send you the names of the hijackers when we have reconfirmed our four teams and the flight numbers.)

    Hope this helps.

    With Sincerest Regards,
    Osama

  110. I feel his pain... by Call+Me+Black+Cloud · · Score: 1

    ...just in a smaller way. I bought some new speakers for my desktop. The center channel speaker, the one that goes atop the monitor, has all the controls: power, volume, fader, etc. There's also a power light...a blue LED power light. At first I thought it was very cool. My tech budget is low and my only other possession with a blue LED is a freebie keychain/flashlight from a conference.

    After setting up the speakers I quickly discovered why the blue LED is suited for a flashlight - the damn power light was blinding! The angle of the speaker, perfect for directing sound to my ears, was also ideal for shining the blue light into my eyes. I ended up covering the light with electrical tape and making a pinhole in the tape.

    Wow, that has to be the most I've written about such a trivial thing. "Hey everyone, come read my blue LED story! Chapter 1 is now online!" :)

  111. A way to turn them off? by danila · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Why can't the manufacturers include an option to turn that shit off? Most of the devices usually have some way to change the settings, either an on-screen menu or a computer control panel applet. It should be rather simple to add a "disable LED indicator" option. I have an ADSL modem and a switch, sitting on the table. Honestly, I don't care about what these devices are doing 99.99% of the time. And in those rare cases when I do care, I can usually afford 30 seconds to enable the LEDs. To think of it, I probably can use the program on the PC they are connected to to find out how they are doing. So the manufacturer can save the cost of those LEDs and make the product less annoying.

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    1. Re:A way to turn them off? by Gregb05 · · Score: 1

      screwdriver. should take about 12 seconds, and the thing's not coming back on.

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  112. What a frickin moron by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have a simple solution for this man's problem. Perhaps his single digit IQ keeps him from this kind of revolutionary thought...

    When shopping for a new device or peripheral, find one that doesn't have a frickin blue LED and buy it instead.

    Sheesh...

  113. White LEDs by bigberk · · Score: 1

    I personally think blue LEDs are pretty cool, mind you I don't have a ton of fancy electronic gadgets around the house (and I don't own a cell phone).

    But what I'm really after are some nice, super bright white LEDs. Does anyone know where I can get them (in small volumes) for cheap? I want to build a lamp for my bicycle.

    1. Re:White LEDs by Luxury+P.+Yacht · · Score: 1
      Try Mouser Electronics. I have ordered white LED's from them in the past. Be sure to search their online catalog as the URL I provided only points to a portion of the LED's they carry.

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  114. Blue LED's go away by visionsofmcskill · · Score: 1
    While many of you are bashing the poor author, i have a personal story to relate unto the subject.


    A very short story


    I just bought a Small Form Factor PC.

    It has a Blue Power Led button on the front

    The PC looks cool, and is usefull ON TOP of my desk

    The PC is in my room, no other or better place for it

    The power light is VERY VERY bright at night

    My fiance hates it, she cant sleep with it on

    I agree

    the PC is a server, i cannot turn it off at night

    A post-it now covers that damn blue light

    The light still shines thorugh, though yellow and blue make green

    and green is less piercingly obnoxious


    Bottom line, those lights which are most notable in key chain flashlights, cellphone number panels, and my PC's powerlight are really really really bright and very annoying. I hate the number panels cell phone lights the most... if youve ever been in a dark bar when someone gets a call on one of those things you know what i mean. And the power light can by itself light my entire room at night.... NO JOKE, it's that bright.

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  115. What is he talking about? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't see any blue LEDs around my house.

    • Telephone? nope.
    • VCR? nope.
    • MicroVAX? nope nope nope.

    Blue LEDs don't exist because it is still 1988 at my house.

  116. You know... by applef00 · · Score: 1

    ...I don't entirely disagree with what he's saying. The biggest gripe I have about LEDs of any color is their overuse. The one I hate most is on my JVC DVD player. When it's on, there's a green LED. When it's off, that green LED... changes to red? Why in the world do I need an indicator that tells me "alert! This device is now off!" It's rather distracting when I'm trying to watch TV and I've got this glaring red eye below. Other devices with LEDs don't bother me that much; I'm not generally staring in their direction. But LEDs on devices which, by their design or fuction, implicitly stay in your field of vision--or just on the periphary--ought to be toned down a skosh.

  117. It's not really solstice without blue. by AnotherBlackHat · · Score: 1

    But without the blue, the holiday lighting just wouldn't be the same.

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  118. Re:Fat cat - OT, but FYI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...his repitoir(sp? m-w.com couldn't figure it out).

    BTW, it is repertoire

  119. Silly Blue LEDs on Rusted Out Honda Accords by BigBlockMopar · · Score: 4, Funny

    If he doesn't like blue LEDs, then he didn't really need to buy a new monitor, handheld scanner, webcam, USB hub, Bluetooth access point, WiFi adapter, desktop volume control for his speakers, external hard drive, video editing peripheral, keyboard, home theatre, wireless music gateway, USB keychain drive, and portable MP3 player, all apparently in the "recent months".

    Ignoring the quantity of his purchases, it *is* really annoying that so many different devices, presumably from different manufacturers, would all be so-festooned.

    But what really irks me is the idiots who put blue lights all over their cars - usually silly little Honda cars with 3" diameter coffee can exhaust tips (despite the 1" diameter pipe coming from the puny little 1.6L engine).

    Blue side markers, taillights, parking lights? Non-conformant with SAE (Society of Automotive Engineers, look closely at your taillight lenses) standardized coloring and therefore dangerous. Illegal. Police should be cracking down on these the way they used to crack down on 50's hot-rodders who were putting the blue dots into their red taillights.

    LEDs (especially blue) on calipers, brake rotors, rims, windshield washer nozzles - what are you, stupid? It might have looked a little neat the first time someone did it, but now it's every home-boy who doesn't know how to put on a baseball cap who is doing it. Why would you spend your money being a brainless clone, when instead you could save it to put a real motor into your Civic? (Now, if you've got a Civic with a 4-bolt mains Chevy 350 under the hood, *then* I'll be impressed - takes a little more skill to do that than to put silly lights on the car.)

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  120. Simple low-cost low-tech solution... by Gnascher · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...and you can probably pick it up at virtually any local hardware store, or even an auto supply store.

    It is called black tape. Very unobtrusive, electrically inert, and completely opaque. It does leave a little gummy mark when it eventually falls off, but that's ok. Just cover it with more black tape. :)

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    1. Re:Simple low-cost low-tech solution... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      dude, i wish i still had some mod points ... you are so right.

    2. Re:Simple low-cost low-tech solution... by pod · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but then you can't tell at a glane whether your shit is on or not. And as much as people here bitch about it, the colour of the LED is rarely the deciding factor when buying gear, at least it shouldn't be, or you deserve all the trouble you'll get.

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  121. Shuji Nakamura is not sole inventor of LED by lhpineapple · · Score: 2, Informative

    "I've got a bone to pick with Shuji Nakamura."

    I hate how people keep crediting Nakamura as the sole inventor of the blue LED. Yes, he did make the first working blue LED, but Dr. Theodore Moustakas here at Boston University developed the buffer-layer process for GaN months before Nakamura.

    Here's an article.

    Dr. Moustakas is an awesome professor too. He loves to teach and does it well. He deserves so much more credit.

    1. Re:Shuji Nakamura is not sole inventor of LED by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From the linked article:
      Considering the size of the blue LED market, these sublicenses have the potential to be very lucrative for the University.

      So *HE'S* the guy to blame for the high price of blue LEDs. Thanks a lot!

  122. Speakers by utlemming · · Score: 1

    My Logitech speakers have blue leds. All I have to say is that I want to shoot the person that put them in the design. Sure the speakers are great, but it is distracting and it actually hurts my eyes. I had to put tape over the blue led just so I could scan around my desk without hurting my eyes. Just like another poster said, the blue led does do a really good job at lighting my bed room. I would have rather not had a led than a piercing blue one.

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  123. Black Sharpie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    .. works every time. :)

  124. Only a matter of time... by BillX · · Score: 1

    10 years from now, the kiddies of tomorrow will be sick of Blue LEDs and they will be a fad long-dead. But what will replace them? I don't suppose that red/amber/green will make a triumphant comeback. I'm waiting for the kiddies to start modding their Blue LED gear with those fiery red-orange neon indicator lamps for that retro look. How they're going to generate 80VAC from a cordless mouse is anyone's guess, but for most plug-in-to-the-wall gear this should not be a problem. Personally, I'm waiting for the triumphant resurgence of the eerie "radioactive" glow of tuning-eye tubes in place of those *lovely* blue LED level meters.

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  125. The sad part by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What is truly saddening here is that this guy is getting paid to deliver such exaggerated rants that could be otherwise be found written for free on sites like Slashdot.

    If this guy can get away with earning a living this way, there may be hope for many of you afterall. And if you can't rant, maybe you can found a company that makes snap-on LED covers to block the incredibly blinding glare that these things put off. Or if you have no talent in that area either, you could try to make a living by suing companies that use blue LEDs in their products, claiming permanent loss of sight from these intensely bright devices.

    And this brings to an end my rant regarding a guy getting paid to rant about something that isn't all that big a deal in the first place

  126. Flashy Lights are a good thing! by MacFury · · Score: 1
    What you don't realize is that flashy do nothing lights do something...get you sluty girls.

    Chris Rock said it best, "Guys don't get flashy cars because guys like flashy cars. They get flashy cars because girls like flashy cars."

    1. Re:Flashy Lights are a good thing! by operagost · · Score: 1

      I don't know what you're talking about. They don't like flashy cars, they like pussy cars - like what a gay man would drive. Today's women feel their feminism threatened by a throaty big-block engine with a Roots blower sticking out the top. All burnouts are rape!

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    2. Re:Flashy Lights are a good thing! by BigBlockMopar · · Score: 1

      What you don't realize is that flashy do nothing lights do something...get you sluty girls.
      Chris Rock said it best, "Guys don't get flashy cars because guys like flashy cars. They get flashy cars because girls like flashy cars."

      By the time you need a car with silly little lights on it to get laid, you're too pathetic to be allowed to procreate.

      I used to enjoy taking those guys out at traffic lights. They'd be sitting there at the traffic light, girlfriend in the passenger seat, and I'd pull up in a 1980 Chevette with a hood scoop on it. The hood scoop got them really riled up, they'd think I was a poseur (like they are) with a "tuned" Chevette that they could easily blow away. What they didn't know was that there was a Buick 3.8L V6 stuffed under the hood and that the Chevette was pulling 12.8s on the 1/4 mile.

      Heheheh...

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  127. xoxide blue ad by chocolatetrumpet · · Score: 1

    In spite of the new bane, blue, xoxide is running this ad on arstechnica.

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  128. dude... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it's a f*cking little blue light.

  129. Rotate it so it faces downward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >the mobile DC cigarette lighter plug has this annoyingly bright Blue LED on it.

    gewg_

  130. Put an ambient-light-sensing photocell in series by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > the use of super-bright blue LEDs for indicator lights is rather silly

    Day intensity / night intensity

    gewg_

  131. Solution by Cynikal · · Score: 2, Funny

    This product might be the solution you need

  132. Imagine! by shadewind · · Score: 1

    Imagine a beowulf cluster of those! (well someone had to, honestly)

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  133. what a show-off.. ! by mantera · · Score: 1


    I only have one device that has a blue LED. If you don't like blue LEDs, don't but them; I personally avoid them. I think in one way what struck me about this article is that either this guy has a lot of high end devices bought at some time, or a lot of recently bought gear, and he's showing off all his "my" this and "my" that.

  134. Black electrical tape by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The author needs to rediscover the wonders of applying black electrical tape over the annoyance. Such tape also neatly solves the problem of the flashing 00:00's on VCR clocks.

    1. Re:Black electrical tape by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Such tape also neatly solves the problem of the flashing 00:00's on VCR clocks.

      So does setting the clock!

  135. DON'T Go to Sam's Club by theglassishalf · · Score: 1
    Wal*mart owns Sam's club. And Wal*mart blows.

    (mind you, I didn't actually look through that site much, so it might blow too...but I know that Wal*mart drives down wages for millions of people, and use their clout in very...well...bad ways. And low-wage workers are bad for the economy. And shopping there makes you part of the problem.)

    -Daniel

    1. Re:DON'T Go to Sam's Club by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wal*mart also drives down prices, which benefits millions of people. Gosh, economics is complicated. It goes all 'round in linked circly things. I think I'll just stop thinking about it and rely on sloganeering. Wal*mart is bad, you say?

  136. Re:Mmmmm Blue, Green, Red, Turquoise or whatever by acariquara · · Score: 0
    What about RGB ones? I've seen one in a girlish casemod. Bright pink. Ugh.

    Anything trying to be really ubercool should come with one plus a software or a slider (or 3?) to adjust the fsck of it.

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  137. What is the thing with blue LEDs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What is the deal with blue LEDs? People in the ricing scene love them but I don't know why.

    Look pretty normal to me, just blue?

    Anyone care to elaborate

  138. Re:Barbells and computers by unitron · · Score: 1
    "I'm exercising with barbells and reading /. at the same time."

    I thought that reading /. was considered exercising with dumbbells. :-)

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  139. Airplane 2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Buck Murdock: Oh, cut the bleeding heart crap, will ya? We've all got our switches, lights, and knobs to deal with, Striker. I mean, down here there are literally hundreds and thousands of blinking, beeping, and flashing lights, blinking and beeping and flashing - they're *flashing* and they're *beeping*. I can't stand it anymore! They're *blinking* and *beeping* and *flashing*! Why doesn't somebody pull the plug!

  140. Agreed by DiscoOnTheSide · · Score: 1

    I've only owned two things that had blue LEDs. My Sony Ericcson T68i (it had a green/red LED showing service/charge/battery status and a blue one to indicate bluetooth status. It blinked every 2-3 seconds. Now I have a set of Logitech Z-640 5.1 speakers and on the center speaker is a mass of controls, and in the middle is a blue LED with the intensity of a thousand suns. It can litterally light up my side of the dorm room.

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  141. Why are they hard to make? by Robmonster · · Score: 1

    From the article:- Blue LEDs are much more complicated to design and produce than red, green or orange LEDs, and until recently that made them expensive

    Does anyone know WHY blue LED's are more expensive to make? Why are they more difficult to get working? I didnt think the colpour would make much of a difference.

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  142. Note to Article Author by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 1
    Take the one on my monitor, for example. It's a big sucker about the size of a postage stamp, and of course it's centred just below the screen where it's impossible to ignore. Note to the LCD manufacturer: If the power went out unexpectedly, I'd probably realize it since the screen would go black -- the "on" LED isn't telling me a whole lot I don't already know.

    Note to article author: A small piece of black electrical tape.

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  143. Finally!!!!! by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 1
    Finally I can build my original Star Trek communicator as detailed in The Starfleet Technical Manual. The previous lack of blue leds has frustrated me for decades in this endeavor.

    Of course, the fact that a modern cell phone does much more in a much smaller space does leave something to be desired.

    So does anyone know how to get my cell phone to chirp like a Communicator when I flip it open?

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  144. The Design of Everyday Things by SnakeStu · · Score: 1

    The subject of this post is the title of a book I've wanted to read for some time (you can find it at Powell's), which this "rant" about blue LEDs brought back to mind. Some design decisions are made for the wrong reason and some things are designed very poorly -- this goes for physical products as well as software. [I was tempted to insert "Microsoft" in there, but there are plenty of others to blame for poorly designed software -- not me, of course. ;-)]

  145. Ok, so... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...how much did you get paid to post that? heh heh...

  146. Re:Fat cat - and petty by cbreaker · · Score: 1

    There's some petty editorials out there, but give me a BREAK. This one has got to be one of the most petty ones I've ever seen.

    It looks to me like it was more of a show off of all this guys's stuff, pretending it was an article about blue LED's.

    I mean, with all the other more important shit he could be putting his energy into, it's lame to dwell on something so ridiculous.

    If the light is too damned bright, put a peice of fucking tape over it and get on with your life.

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  147. Nokia 3650 by acariquara · · Score: 0
    I have recently traded in my Nokia 7650 for a 3650. While the 7650 had a nice, white led behind the menu button and the keypad, the 3650 has superbright mini blue leds all over its round one.

    I tried to count them right now. Oh boy. Yellow specs all over the page. Cannot type. Seizure warninnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn nnnnddj

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  148. This guy is.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    not too bright, unlike the lights he bought

    personally i have a blue led on my comptuer tower that used to light up my entire room...naturally i leave my comptuer on all the time so i thought to myself, how can i fix this...i put a piece of duct tape over the led, the led still shines through but at the power of the other led types making it not bright at all but still visible.

  149. Gah by Quo_R · · Score: 1

    I notice that none of my technical gadgets have any blue LEDs. I feel so left out and behind..

  150. Yup, I tape a lot of LEDs "shut" by ckedge · · Score: 2, Informative

    My bed is only 8 inches off the ground so when I'm in bed at night my PC and all the stuff that go with it shine directly in my eyes. They're not blue LEDs, but they were still annoying as hell.

    So I've used little bits of white electrical tape (match the case colors) to block them all out. Even the drive activity LED got covered over, at nights when it was going on-and-off it was exteremely annoying.

    Now all I see are tiny dull green-yellow or orange spots, not a huge spotlight shining across the room. So I can still see the lights even during the daytime, but they are no longer the equivalent of little spotlights in the darkness.

    Did the same thing to the LED on the speaker on the fridge in the kitchen, it was annoying at 2am when going for a glug of milk in the pitch black apartment to be blinded by the LED on it.

    Here's a question - why do so few other people in the world use the BRAINS (you know, those huge amazing things that only we humans have) to SOLVE their problems instead of bitching about it all the time? Everyone always seems so supprised whenever I trot out some tiny little thing that I've done to solve a problem or make a job easy. It's not rocket science.

    1. Re:Yup, I tape a lot of LEDs "shut" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Everyone always seems so supprised (sic) whenever I trot out some tiny little thing that I've done to solve a problem or make a job easy. It's not rocket science.

      I'd now like you to trot out a tiny little thing that will solve the problem of getting a manned mission to Mars, and make easy the job of returning those explorers safely to Earth.

      Oh, what, you have a problem with rocket science? Sorry, brainiac, didn't mean to infringe on your ego.

  151. Screw NEMA. They're hypocrites. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just went to their site.

    I get a: [code=CANT_CONNECT] 500 Server Error. The entire display is black and white. This seems to run contrary to their own guidelines. I see absolutely no amber or red to indicate abnormal status or trouble status.

    NEMA should dogfood their own 'standard'.

  152. Electrical Tape by Danny+Rathjens · · Score: 1

    I used electrical tape on the two devices with annoying bright blue leds that I own(braun electric shaver and logitech speaker set). Since they are both black, the little squares of electrical tape I used to cover the leds are barely noticeable.

  153. My monitor. by shawn(at)fsu · · Score: 1

    Has a bright blue LED indicator that blinks when the power cord is connected is turned off. I often pull the cord out when I want to sleep. So annoying. Sorry I just wanted to yell about my VPR Matrix monitor.

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  154. I FUCKING HATE SUVs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    if you FUCKING drive one around the city YOU ARE A FUCKING TURD.

  155. Heh by TheOnlyCoolTim · · Score: 1

    I think my friend has that case.

    And I have a sonata...

    Tim

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    1. Re:Heh by bprime · · Score: 1

      haha then you'll enjoy this - check it out my sonata 120mm air intake with 6 1/2 chrome filter, chrome handles, and an 8 port network switch in the top of the thing (two of the ports come out of the back). i 3 my case :D (please ignore the quasedila in the background)

  156. I completely agree with him. by penginkun · · Score: 1

    Blue lights really hurt my eyes, and LEDs are even worse because of their intese brightness.

    I have similar complaints about those ultra-bright blue headlights so many luxomobiles have these days. They're great if I'm behind them, but put them in front of me and I'm almost completely unable to see (and thus unable to drive).

    Bright blue light are incredibly painful for me. My eyes ache just thinking about it. I just hope the fad fades fast.

  157. Hey you : OUT of the gene pool ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Cars don't get you laid, period.

    Confidence gets you laid.

    And if you think that some car accessory will give you confidence, you are one pathetic fool.

  158. mod parent up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    mod parent up as pete seeger fan. that's an option, right? well it should be

  159. my experience by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I keep a G4 in my bedroom with an external firewire hardrive attached, and between the annoying pulsing white power button during sleep and the amazingly bright blue LED on the enclosure, I was having trouble falling asleep because of all the light pollution. And I'm not hypersensitive, and can usually sleep fairly well even in half-assed darkness. Even duct tape didn't solve the problem, as the light still seeped out through the clear plastic on the outer shell of the HD enclosure. I ended up having to open it up and disconnect the LED, voiding the hell out of my warranty I'm sure.

    Do LED's just have one set brightness? I really don't understand them at all. I'm guessing that soldering a resister or anything in there couldn't tune things down a bit...

  160. my blue LEDs by Eil · · Score: 2, Informative


    I have exactly two blue LEDs, and I had them easily 3 or 4 years ago when they were "expensive". It's a long story, but suffice to say I've been a fan of LEDs and their different colors and uses since childhood. I have a full-tower Antec case and I've never really been a fan of case-modding (I like beige just fine, thankyouverymuch), but I once happened to see some blue LEDs from the same online store that I bought my CPU fan from and bought a pair on a whim.

    I soldered them in, replacing the green and amber power and HDD LEDs respectively, and turned it on. Looking, of course, directly into them. BIG MISTAKE. I felt like I was temporarily blinded for several minutes. The HDD one is not a big deal since it only flashes occasionally and never stays continuously lit for more than a second or two, but the power LED is on ALL THE TIME and if I turn off the lights it can illuminate an entire half of the room all by itself.

    Fortunately, the LED bezel in the case directs most of the beam straight ahead, so it hasn't been that big a deal, though I've been tempted more than once to figure out the current and voltage and solder a resistor in series just to tone it down a bit.

  161. LED replacement strategy. by evilviper · · Score: 2, Informative

    In reality, the color isn't too much of a problem. The problem is that they are so high powered.

    While I will admit, the fact is that certain colors appear more piercing than others (due to how much they scatter), the power is the real issue. He mentions that he is bothered by RED LEDs, but in reality, Red is the most gentle color there is. Back when I was making my own home-made LED flashlights, I quickly discovered that red is an awful color to use, because it scatters so much that there's very little light left where you are pointing it. Blue worked well, but too well. It's soo powerful that you loose your night vision, and since LEDs weren't as bright as regular bulbs, you needed your night vision, otherwise the LED flashlights were useless.

    Green/Amber are the best colors. No loss of night vision, but enough light to iluminate.

    I have a solution to this problem though. What we need is an indicator that is not self-lit at all. Back before LEDs, most applications used a colored piece of plastic/metal to indicate status. What we need is something like that, but updated so they can be a drop-in replacement for LEDs.

    I'm thinking maybe a tiny canister, with 3 tiny, colored, magnetized ball-bearings. A simple electro-magnet could move any of the 3 to the display window.

    So, it would be just as simple as the multi-colored LEDs, extremely low power, and almost as small. As an added bonus, you won't see these status indicators when all the building lights are out, and you WILL be able to see them when it is bright out. If you've ever tried to see if your LED is on while it's in direct sunlight, you know what I'm talking about, and certainly see the advantage of this idea.

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  162. If I may borrow some quotes from Dennis Leary... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If I may borrow some quotes from Dennis Leary...
    "Shut the fuck up."
    "Life sucks, get a fucking helmet."

  163. In his other life... by heironymouscoward · · Score: 1

    He's a reviewer for "Blue LED Lover" magazine.

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  164. 4RED and 1BLUE LED = hope for 3rd world by dutchtommy · · Score: 2, Informative

    Recent research in Japan has led to the developement of PINK LED lights (4 red to 1 blue) in growing plants. It seems that the low power, high yield (400% higher growth in some instances) are a savior for some countries of the future. LED use so little power, hook them up to solar/wind and you can grow huge amounts of food in low light, basements, attics, etc without the problems of:Heat, replacing bulbs, power supply, cooling of housing from bulb/halogens. This will lead to great developement for 3rd world countries, cold countries, and home 'weed growers' to grow with impunity. GOOD JOB NAKA!

  165. old and new by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    old and busted: blue leds
    new hottness: purple leds

  166. With all due respect... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Macs go to sleep, not in to standby mode (let alone hibernate).

    Thank you, most sincerely, for your understanding and kind attention to this important detail.

  167. Can't Sleep by Nalgas+D.+Lemur · · Score: 1

    A friend of mine has some form of Shuttle case he uses for his MythTV setup, and, naturally, it came with a piercing, blindingly bright, blue LED to let everyone within half a mile know whether it's on or not. Occasionally, I end up sleeping on the futon ten feet away from it if I'm over there late at night and not heading home until the next day, and I honestly can't sleep in the same room unless I cover the light up with something.

    I'm the kind of person whose eyes are sensitive enough to light that I use a single 40W bulb to light my room at home and read by, and in the past, I've used only a 25W bulb at times. This trend for bright, flashy indicator lights on everything these days (including the pulsating white one on my iBook to let me know it's asleep...I have to stick it underneath the bed or put a book in front of it to sleep while it's sleeping) is literally kind of painful sometimes.

    As an added bonus, I have Keratoconus, a fairly uncommon cornea problem, so all these excessively bright little lights on everything are wonderfully smeared all over the place in my vision, which makes them even more annoying and drives me absolutely nuts.

    I love little blinking lights all over the place on my hardware as much as the next guy, but lately, they've been getting pretty ridiculously obtrusive. There are only so many little lights that are actually necessary, and they don't need to be all that bright to be noticeable or useful.

  168. Blue LED almost blinded me :P by krumms · · Score: 2, Funny

    When I first got my new system, I was looking for the power button on the front of my subwoofer. Noticing the little button, looking directly at it, I pushed it in and was blinded by a furious, burning blue LED right above the fucking power button.

    Now I like it, because even when I turn the lights off the blue glow of the subwoofer is good reading light.

  169. The solution by Hognoxious · · Score: 0
    Take the one on my monitor, for example. It's a big sucker about the size of a postage stamp, and of course it's centred just below the screen where it's impossible to ignore.
    Duct tape is your friend.
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  170. FYI - sensitivity may be a bigger problem... by signal7 · · Score: 1

    I spent some years doing television service. The statistic that really stuck in my head was that blue was only 11% of the picture. The implication is obvious - the eye is a lot more sensitive to blue than either of red or green(don't know who came up with the reverse statistic and posted that the eye is less sensitive to blue - must be a typo). Consequently it makes sense that blue led's emitting the same number of lumens would appear to be brighter. One other factor stuck in my head from that experience(in aligning the picture, anyway) was that it's pretty difficult for the eye focus blue into sharp edges - it wants to scatter and it therefore looks fuzzy no matter how good the focus of the blue gun is.

    That said, I've looked around my desk. I have 6+ computers and not one of them has a blue LED. Not even my monitor or keyboard. I didn't do this on purpose, so either I live a charmed life or this guy has bad karma.

    The easiest solution to any overbright LED? Black Gaffer's Tape. The adhesive is a lot easier to deal with than duct tape, and it's fully opaque. One layer, and you've effectively converted it into a black emitting diode.

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