Though I agree with you that Slashdot's really bad about sensationalism (like the 'vulnerability' in XP SP2 last week), in this case I wouldn't say it's so bad, though. They put 'quotes' around the moneymaker part of that headline. At least when I read the headline, I didn't panic even though my family's not too far from there.
"What's the point... the turn out for voting is always at an all time low... the system is flawed... we need a better system to elect people to power."
The only people that should be allowed to vote are the people that take personal responsibility for the safety of man-kind. That way, when the arachnids come, we can fling all the pretty rich kids at them!!!
"You are stupid sack of dog shit. It's not even worth countering your claim because it's beyond idiocy. Please kill yourself, you child raping pile of baboon jism. If all you ideological Party-loving hacks would just die, this country might have hope."
"On a serious note, what I do not understand about these companies, like the Tablet PC companies is that these devices are ideal complementary devices. Price the device at less than 1K and people will buy these devices. Price them near 2K and they will be niche devices that people will look at, comment as interesting, and move on."
Hopefully I can clear this up a bit:
Re OQO: Why would anybody want it? Listen man, it wasn't all that long ago people were getting modded up here for saying "People really don't need computers more than 500mhz". In the corporate case, this is definitely true. At my previous company, I watched a number of execs buy laptops, and the big factor that they cared about was size. Why? They travelled around, A LOT. A laptop, even a small one, is not so easy to use on a plane. If they could just stuff it in their pocket, they'd be mucho happy.
Nearly all the execs at this place had Palm Pilots, but they couldn't leave the laptop at work because they still needed it. (Sadly, this was usually for PowerPoint. Heh. I shoulda been a PowerPoint artist instead of a Lightwave artist.:P) I can honestly see them wanting this thing. Would they buy it? Eh... not sure really. Not sure if they'd understand what it is. Get over that hurdle, and it really could be a hot niche item.
Re TabletPCs: TabletPCs are full fledged laptops with a Wacom digitizer aboard. The price of those things is mostly justified there. I know. I have one. Now, you're right that people might look at them and move on. It's cool to have the stylus and all, but you are paying extra buckage for a feature that not all may use effectively. However, for those that need them, they're pretty slick. I have one because of that digitizer. A 12" Wacom tablet is like $400. (Boy, that price dropped recently, I remember when those were a lot closer to $1,000!) Not only do I have that 12" tablet, but I also have a screen right UNDER it! Man that's great for painting. But yes, you are right, this isn't for everybody.
Yes, the OQO and the TabletPC are a little spendy. But that is to be expected. New technology stuff ALWAYS comes out at a high price. It's for early adopters willing to spend it. It'll come down. Heck, TabletPCs have come down significantly. Remember when laptops were just nice to have items? They couldn't compare to desktops. Now LOTS of people have them. My point here isn't to shoot you down. You bring up good points. I just wanted to help alleviate some of the frustration here.
"Honestly, I would give anything to get away from the Internet for two weeks. A disconnection, though probably disorienting for a couple days, would be so pleasant.
Unfortunately, since all my work (read: paychecks) come from the computer, I can't do that."
It kind of bugs me that the term junkie has reared it's ugly head. I think about my own reasons for using the net a lot, and it occurs to me that there really isn't anything 'bad' about it. I participate on a 3D art community. Staying in tune with that has been quite beneficial to my career, plus I've made good friends out of it. If I had missed those key moments, I wouldn't have what I value today.
It's a little different, like in your case, where the internet creates work for you. When I had a tech support job, I wanted weeks away from a phone and email. Why? Because when that stuff arrived, it was more unpleasantness. But what about when it's all good? What if my phone rang with freelance job offers?
I think about others out there as well. Some people are looking for love. Some people are looking for information about their particular interests. All good things.
Eh. I guess I'm only responding because of what Slashdot's summary of the article said. Yeah I wanna be on the net constantly, but gimme a break, if I hadn't done that I wouldn't be at the job I love right now.
"And, just how many games will ever use that much space?"
Why is this in the slightest bit relevent? Sony's providing the platform, the developers figure out what to do with it. Less restrictions are a good thing, not some +5 interesting bitching point.
I see what you're saying. Believe me, I understand that aspect of being a geek. I would just expect them to do that with something they already have, as opposed to spending $150 on it when it'd likely be a superior game machine to a *Nix machine. Ya know?
I dun wanna be nitpicky about it, nor do I want to look down at somebody for doing that (hope it doesn't come off that way) I just wanted to understand.
" But I guess I'm in minority who actually appreciate this DVD and don't care much about who bloody fires first.:-)"
Well, you're not standing too far away from me. I don't have a problem with the special edition DVDs. (maybe I'm biased since I do digital FX for a living?)
Normally I roll my eyes at nitpicks like this. Unfortunately, though, I have to side with those that are annoyed by it. It really did make the his character more interesting (especially Han's surprise return at the end) plus it added credibility to the whole "this is a dangerous place to be" mood that bar was in.
I imagine you already see that, but I thought it was worth mentioning just in case. It was one of those changes that George shouldn't have made. I think a lot of us are annoyed simply because we saw what could have been. hehe.
"You don't ride trains. I'm not sure if they would be allowed on airplanes... but there are places where it is inappropriate to "holla"."
Why is this 'offtopic'? Come to think of it, why is the parent post +5? It's meant to be silly and fun, plus people'll find fun uses for it. If it's bundled with the system (or is it integrated? One site I read said that but I'm not sure if they precisely meant 'no cartridge required') then what's the harm? I remember playing with walkie talkies that only had a line of sight range, if that. Heh.
"Who here wants to make a betting pool for how long until linux is hacked onto it?"
Sorry if I'm being unimaginitive, and I hope this doesn't sound inpolite, but why would somebody do this? I'm not trying to shoot it down or anything, I really just can't imagine.
"But really, for most people, Outlook is an email program... That's why the lite version has email, but no scheduling..."
That's not true. People (well, companies anyway) pay money to get Outlook's scheduling features, plus Exchange's side of the equation. Outlook Express isn't free of scheduling because that's the least popular feature of Outlook (why would MS give that away?), rather it was felt Windows needed to come with a mail client of some sort. So they borrowed some components of the Office version of Outlook and put it into OE. They even share some DLLs. I made the mistake of uninstalling OE once and it broke OL. (Lame!)
"Fair enough, but out of curiosity, please tell me, what do Excel, Outlook, C, Pascal, and Java do?"
Outlook basically means "to look at the future". MS's Outlook is a time organizer. At a glance, you can look at your schedule for the coming weeks etc. Calendar, to do list, etc. (Note: I'm talking about Outlook, not Outlook express.)
This isn't an attempt to shoot down your post, but Outlook actually is fairly descriptive.
"Yes, it did occur to me, and I was curious why the poster chose Opera. He left IE because of the ads, so why did he choose Opera which still has some ads rather than Mozilla which has none?"
Yes, I'm posting in this thread again:
IE ads are typically popups that flood your task bar. Opera's ads take up about a row's worth of space up in the title bar. Despite this, Opera and IE offer nearly the same real-estate. (Opera's bar WITH the ads is the same size as IE's bar, but Opera cuts in a little bit in order to accomodate the equivalent of Tabs.)
The ads are there, but they are Google's text ads. No flashing, no sound, none of that. They're not taking up more space. They're not causing pop-ups. And you get the benefits of Opera's well done UI.
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Though I agree with you that Slashdot's really bad about sensationalism (like the 'vulnerability' in XP SP2 last week), in this case I wouldn't say it's so bad, though. They put 'quotes' around the moneymaker part of that headline. At least when I read the headline, I didn't panic even though my family's not too far from there.
"What's the point... the turn out for voting is always at an all time low... the system is flawed... we need a better system to elect people to power."
The only people that should be allowed to vote are the people that take personal responsibility for the safety of man-kind. That way, when the arachnids come, we can fling all the pretty rich kids at them!!!
"You are stupid sack of dog shit. It's not even worth countering your claim because it's beyond idiocy. Please kill yourself, you child raping pile of baboon jism. If all you ideological Party-loving hacks would just die, this country might have hope."
"Another Party-Loving Dumbass (Score:1, Insightful)"...????
"...and that it dies after 100,000 write cycles?"
Well, in Sony's case, few would actually get that far.
"On a serious note, what I do not understand about these companies, like the Tablet PC companies is that these devices are ideal complementary devices. Price the device at less than 1K and people will buy these devices. Price them near 2K and they will be niche devices that people will look at, comment as interesting, and move on."
:P) I can honestly see them wanting this thing. Would they buy it? Eh... not sure really. Not sure if they'd understand what it is. Get over that hurdle, and it really could be a hot niche item.
Hopefully I can clear this up a bit:
Re OQO: Why would anybody want it? Listen man, it wasn't all that long ago people were getting modded up here for saying "People really don't need computers more than 500mhz". In the corporate case, this is definitely true. At my previous company, I watched a number of execs buy laptops, and the big factor that they cared about was size. Why? They travelled around, A LOT. A laptop, even a small one, is not so easy to use on a plane. If they could just stuff it in their pocket, they'd be mucho happy.
Nearly all the execs at this place had Palm Pilots, but they couldn't leave the laptop at work because they still needed it. (Sadly, this was usually for PowerPoint. Heh. I shoulda been a PowerPoint artist instead of a Lightwave artist.
Re TabletPCs: TabletPCs are full fledged laptops with a Wacom digitizer aboard. The price of those things is mostly justified there. I know. I have one. Now, you're right that people might look at them and move on. It's cool to have the stylus and all, but you are paying extra buckage for a feature that not all may use effectively. However, for those that need them, they're pretty slick. I have one because of that digitizer. A 12" Wacom tablet is like $400. (Boy, that price dropped recently, I remember when those were a lot closer to $1,000!) Not only do I have that 12" tablet, but I also have a screen right UNDER it!
Man that's great for painting. But yes, you are right, this isn't for everybody.
Yes, the OQO and the TabletPC are a little spendy. But that is to be expected. New technology stuff ALWAYS comes out at a high price. It's for early adopters willing to spend it. It'll come down. Heck, TabletPCs have come down significantly. Remember when laptops were just nice to have items? They couldn't compare to desktops. Now LOTS of people have them. My point here isn't to shoot you down. You bring up good points. I just wanted to help alleviate some of the frustration here.
"ith the Internet to unite fanboys worldwide, he could face organized boycotts, negative reviews, and negative word of mouth advertising."
Yeah! That's how we took down Microsoft!
"2 weeks without slashdot?!?! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooo....."
I was about to post how great it'd be to get away from Slashdot for a couple of weeks... then I realized I volunteered to visit.
Crap. It's just like smoking. >:I
"Honestly, I would give anything to get away from the Internet for two weeks. A disconnection, though probably disorienting for a couple days, would be so pleasant.
Unfortunately, since all my work (read: paychecks) come from the computer, I can't do that."
It kind of bugs me that the term junkie has reared it's ugly head. I think about my own reasons for using the net a lot, and it occurs to me that there really isn't anything 'bad' about it. I participate on a 3D art community. Staying in tune with that has been quite beneficial to my career, plus I've made good friends out of it. If I had missed those key moments, I wouldn't have what I value today.
It's a little different, like in your case, where the internet creates work for you. When I had a tech support job, I wanted weeks away from a phone and email. Why? Because when that stuff arrived, it was more unpleasantness. But what about when it's all good? What if my phone rang with freelance job offers?
I think about others out there as well. Some people are looking for love. Some people are looking for information about their particular interests. All good things.
Eh. I guess I'm only responding because of what Slashdot's summary of the article said. Yeah I wanna be on the net constantly, but gimme a break, if I hadn't done that I wouldn't be at the job I love right now.
"I refuse to make a joke about that!"
Is that why your teeth are chipped?
"Why does Microsoft feel the need to try to dumb down everything that has to do the PC."
Have you gone shopping for a game lately? I've been out of touch about video card specs lately, now it's like "uhh... well I hope it works."
There's a difference between 'dumbing down' and 'making things easier'.
"And, just how many games will ever use that much space?"
Why is this in the slightest bit relevent? Sony's providing the platform, the developers figure out what to do with it. Less restrictions are a good thing, not some +5 interesting bitching point.
"How come I can't swim in air?"
Because you're not missing the ground.
I see what you're saying. Believe me, I understand that aspect of being a geek. I would just expect them to do that with something they already have, as opposed to spending $150 on it when it'd likely be a superior game machine to a *Nix machine. Ya know?
I dun wanna be nitpicky about it, nor do I want to look down at somebody for doing that (hope it doesn't come off that way) I just wanted to understand.
Thanks!
" But I guess I'm in minority who actually appreciate this DVD and don't care much about who bloody fires first. :-)"
Well, you're not standing too far away from me. I don't have a problem with the special edition DVDs. (maybe I'm biased since I do digital FX for a living?)
Normally I roll my eyes at nitpicks like this. Unfortunately, though, I have to side with those that are annoyed by it. It really did make the his character more interesting (especially Han's surprise return at the end) plus it added credibility to the whole "this is a dangerous place to be" mood that bar was in.
I imagine you already see that, but I thought it was worth mentioning just in case. It was one of those changes that George shouldn't have made. I think a lot of us are annoyed simply because we saw what could have been. hehe.
"I didn't buy a GBA because it would just be too embarrassing to be seen playing games on it in public."
You must be really borderline if a Gameboy is what you need to accessorize with.
"You don't ride trains. I'm not sure if they would be allowed on airplanes... but there are places where it is inappropriate to "holla"."
Why is this 'offtopic'? Come to think of it, why is the parent post +5? It's meant to be silly and fun, plus people'll find fun uses for it. If it's bundled with the system (or is it integrated? One site I read said that but I'm not sure if they precisely meant 'no cartridge required') then what's the harm? I remember playing with walkie talkies that only had a line of sight range, if that. Heh.
"LCD screens can't shatter?"
Not easily, no.
"Who here wants to make a betting pool for how long until linux is hacked onto it?"
Sorry if I'm being unimaginitive, and I hope this doesn't sound inpolite, but why would somebody do this? I'm not trying to shoot it down or anything, I really just can't imagine.
"But really, for most people, Outlook is an email program... That's why the lite version has email, but no scheduling..."
That's not true. People (well, companies anyway) pay money to get Outlook's scheduling features, plus Exchange's side of the equation. Outlook Express isn't free of scheduling because that's the least popular feature of Outlook (why would MS give that away?), rather it was felt Windows needed to come with a mail client of some sort. So they borrowed some components of the Office version of Outlook and put it into OE. They even share some DLLs. I made the mistake of uninstalling OE once and it broke OL. (Lame!)
"SO what would you call the 13th mailclient? MailD, DMail, LetterSend, MailSend, SendMail, ShipMail, MassMail, LetterHead are all used up, what next?
Also, these are very easy to distinguish, right?"
You're right. They should call it "You've Got Mail", "Message in a Bottle" or "The Messenger" instead.
"Unbelievable. You actually got modded up for that troll."
Few trolls are phrased in the form of a polite and resaonable suggestion. I'm surprised his post was modded down while yours was modded up.
"Fair enough, but out of curiosity, please tell me, what do Excel, Outlook, C, Pascal, and Java do?"
Outlook basically means "to look at the future". MS's Outlook is a time organizer. At a glance, you can look at your schedule for the coming weeks etc. Calendar, to do list, etc. (Note: I'm talking about Outlook, not Outlook express.)
This isn't an attempt to shoot down your post, but Outlook actually is fairly descriptive.
"@!#?@!
You're"
Well it's a good thing you came along and corrected his mistake. His post didn't originally make any sense!
"No it doesn't. Don't be an asswipe: spreading FUD like that is a lousy tactic."
Uh, did you reply to the correct post? The parent post to your says this:
"Opera already does that if you enable the Google TextAds feature... with Google, no less."
This is true. Did you mean to hit reply to somebody else, or could you elaborate what you are disputing?
"Yes, it did occur to me, and I was curious why the poster chose Opera. He left IE because of the ads, so why did he choose Opera which still has some ads rather than Mozilla which has none?"
Yes, I'm posting in this thread again:
IE ads are typically popups that flood your task bar. Opera's ads take up about a row's worth of space up in the title bar. Despite this, Opera and IE offer nearly the same real-estate. (Opera's bar WITH the ads is the same size as IE's bar, but Opera cuts in a little bit in order to accomodate the equivalent of Tabs.)
The ads are there, but they are Google's text ads. No flashing, no sound, none of that. They're not taking up more space. They're not causing pop-ups. And you get the benefits of Opera's well done UI.