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OQO Price And Release Date Set

captainJam writes "After more than 2 years of development, the OQO is finally set to be released in October for a price tag of $1899. Initially the unit will only be sold through OQO's website. Those grumbling about the price should take into consideration that the OQO is by far the smallest and lightest XP capable handtop with a touchscreen, slide-out keyboard and Transflective display."

134 comments

  1. but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    can it run linux?

    1. Re:but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly - I cant say I am in the slightest bit interested unless I have the choice of installing a decent operating system.

    2. Re:but... by klausner · · Score: 4, Informative

      YES. According to early reports it should be able to run anything that has been ported to a Transmeta processor. Like, oh, Linux.

    3. Re:but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      can it run linux?

      More than likely it can. Whether it will be practical or not... Um... Well, YMMV.

      I had been waiting for this, but since I got tired of waiting, I recently got a regular laptop and installed Linux on it. On the bright side, I'll be able to wait for the price to come down, and the Linux developers to come up with a decent understanding of the hardware before I get my first one.

    4. Re:but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait
      unless I have the choice of installing a decent operating system

      You do: Windows XP. It's the best one out there.

    5. Re:but... by Misinformed · · Score: 0, Troll

      yes but don't use GNOME, a single icon would take up the entire screen

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    6. Re:but... by Miffe · · Score: 1

      I have never understanded that argument. The default KDE Panels and Icons are bigger than Gnome's. Except if Fedora.

    7. Re:but... by hopethishelps · · Score: 1
      YES. According to early reports it should be able to run anything that has been ported to a Transmeta processor.

      The processor is not the problem. Linux runs on many kinds of processor. The devices are the problem. Are there drivers for all the devices?

      It's clear that the machine is a hostile environment for Linux - there are only 2 mouse buttons. Made for MSFT crap. Nothing to see here, move on.

    8. Re:but... by Misinformed · · Score: 0, Troll

      Fuck you, you fucking fuck.

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    9. Re:but... by TWX · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "It's clear that the machine is a hostile environment for Linux - there are only 2 mouse buttons. Made for MSFT crap. Nothing to see here, move on."

      Uh, chord-middle anyone?

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  2. What? by Anonymous+Writer · · Score: 2

    So soon?

  3. i'd get that... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...if i had money.

  4. The size is nice, but by Tibor+the+Hun · · Score: 5, Funny

    Too bad it runs XP.

    "Hey y'all, check out the 1900 bucks of spyware I gots!"

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    1. Re:The size is nice, but by klausner · · Score: 5, Informative

      According to this article, an OQO VP says the unit "will run whatever OS would run on a PC, so yeah, Linux should run just fine."

    2. Re:The size is nice, but by dspisak · · Score: 1

      When I ran into Jory Bell earlier this year at CES he said that some folks had Linux running on their OQO's. The screen and keyboard on that device is really what makes the magic happen in my opinion as they make for good input devices in that small a constranied area.

    3. Re:The size is nice, but by multiplexo · · Score: 1
      Yes, but you'll have 1900 dollars worth of attractively packaged and extremely portable spyware!

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    4. Re:The size is nice, but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Too bad it runs XP."Hey y'all, check out the 1900 bucks of spyware I gots!""

      Yeh y'all, check out the 1900 games I can run!

  5. Who cares about the price by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 4, Insightful

    People who use this will have it bought for them by their companies, anyway.

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    1. Re:Who cares about the price by Saint+Stephen · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Spoken as a guy deeply in his companies back pocket.
      Don't rely so much on your company. The world is going outsource, open-source, individual.

    2. Re:Who cares about the price by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      Could you please fit more buzzwords into your posts?

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  6. Linux potential by PuppiesOnAcid · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I think devices like these have the most potential for the public using Linux. Each one has virtually the same hardware, so there would be no discrepencies with drivers. Appears to be an all around handy little box, and the price is fairly reasonable in my opinion.

  7. I for one.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I, for one, welcome our smallest and lightest overlords yet.

  8. Re:Mirror by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    can i have his ip address so i can nuke his service provider and rid the internet of him?

  9. [Sarcasm]Only 1899[/Sarcasm] by SerpentMage · · Score: 5, Insightful

    [Sarcasm]Gee whiz for only 1899USD you get a unreadable screen, with an underpowered CPU, too small harddisk, and battery life that does not exceed many lightweight notebooks![/Sarcasm]

    On a serious note, what I do not understand about these companies, like the Tablet PC companies is that these devices are ideal complementary devices. Price the device at less than 1K and people will buy these devices. Price them near 2K and they will be niche devices that people will look at, comment as interesting, and move on.

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    1. Re:[Sarcasm]Only 1899[/Sarcasm] by Erwos · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I thought it was obvious that they were aiming for corporate executives, not /. geeks.

      If you're making a a few hundred thousand bucks a year, an OQO is cheap. Hell, people spend six hundred bucks on a graphics card - is it really THAT crazy to see them spend a couple grand on a new super-small computer?

      Dynamism hasn't gone out of business, you know?

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    2. Re:[Sarcasm]Only 1899[/Sarcasm] by Coryoth · · Score: 2, Insightful

      On a serious note, what I do not understand about these companies, like the Tablet PC companies is that these devices are ideal complementary devices. Price the device at less than 1K and people will buy these devices. Price them near 2K and they will be niche devices that people will look at, comment as interesting, and move on.

      I agree - few people are going to interested in such a device as their primary computing device - it just doesn't have the power, screen real estate, or usability (keyboards reamin about the best means for inputting textual data) of a lightweight laptop.

      The advantages it offers are notable - its small, lightweight, and is fast and easy to use for small/quick tasks. It's those features that made palm pilots and the like popular. But those sorts of features make it ideal, as the previous poster said, as a secondary or complementary device - something you can have readily on hand for those moments when you don't need to do serious computing work (which tends to require screen size, processor power, and keyboard for input). As long as these devices are priced equivalently to lightweight laptops, they'll remain niche items.

      The things that would bring these devices into the mainstream despite the cost are

      (1) An effective input system - be that stunningly good handwriting recognition, quality subvocal speech recognition, or something we haven't thought of yet.

      (2) A means to have the display size not bound by the immediate size of the device - be that through a projected display, a collapsible/foldable display or something else cunning.

      Until those features are provided, it's an expensive toy.

      Jedidiah.

    3. Re:[Sarcasm]Only 1899[/Sarcasm] by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 1

      Price the device at less than 1K and people will buy these devices. Price them near 2K and they will be niche devices that people will look at, comment as interesting, and move on.

      Ever considered that, to design, develop, manufacture, market, sell and support these devices, you have to sell them for near 2K if you want to stay in business?

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    4. Re:[Sarcasm]Only 1899[/Sarcasm] by EpsCylonB · · Score: 1

      The things that would bring these devices into the mainstream despite the cost are

      What exactly is a mainstream use for these devices ?, why would everyone want one (even non geeks).

      I think these are obviously speciality items, if need a small computer at your hand at any time then this is for you. But most people don't have any use for such a device.

    5. Re:[Sarcasm]Only 1899[/Sarcasm] by EpsCylonB · · Score: 1

      I think the parent posters point is that if you cant design, develop, manufacture, market, sell and support at a more affordable price point then you will be just as likely to go out of business.

      Why develop something no one wants ?

    6. Re:[Sarcasm]Only 1899[/Sarcasm] by base3 · · Score: 1

      Guess that it isn't a very good business plan if they won't sell at $2k, then, is it?

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    7. Re:[Sarcasm]Only 1899[/Sarcasm] by dspisak · · Score: 1

      You obviously haven't held an OQO in your hand and used it. I have.

      Yes the screen is small, but its got a better resolution then any PDA screen I have seen. The screen is transflective too and works well in sunlight. More then I can say for a LOT of the PDAs out there.

      Underpowered CPU compared to what? Your O/C'ed desktop? Yeah, that would work really well for a PORTABLE device. Have fun carrying around your backpack full of lead-acid batteries to power your device.

      20GB is too small only if you intend on loading it up with your entire MP3 collection. However 20GB is just fine for putting on a copy of Office, your entire Outlook PST and other apps and some e-books and some music. You're not going to play games on this so thats not something to worry about either.

      As for the battery life, I'd like to see a lighteight notebook that fits in your pants pocket and has all the features of this device.

      A tablet PC is not a complementary device. Its a freaking laptop. It does everything a regular laptop does and then a bit more. More people are buying laptops as their only computer today then they ever have been. While yes you could argue that a laptop doesnt provide the full performance experience of a desktop the percentage of that experience you get with laptops today is enough that most average users are more then happy with the laptop and could care less about owning a desktop.

      As far as your comments to pricing goes, seriously do you have any idea how expensive it is to make a laptop? Yes there are some components that are modular and inexpensive to get but most things that go into a laptop cost much more because of their reduced size or their low power focus, or worse are custom desgined just for that laptop. The smaller you make something the more customized any piece of hardware going into it must be and therefore more expensive it will be.

    8. Re:[Sarcasm]Only 1899[/Sarcasm] by dspisak · · Score: 1

      I think it's obvious people have wanted a small nearly full-functioned computer in this kind of form factor. It reminds me of the Psion 5 series, just smaller and updated for current tech. I mean, I would rather have something like this then have a PDA because then I would have access to a much larger library of software to run on it. But thats just me, I don't claim to be everyone.

    9. Re:[Sarcasm]Only 1899[/Sarcasm] by SerpentMage · · Score: 1

      Sure you will sell SOME, but the question is if you can make a business of it. I find it interesting how you are making the comparison, "If you're making a few hundred thousand bucks a year an OQO is cheap". These days there are not that MANY people making that kind of money, or at least those that have that kind of disposable income. These days people actually have budgets and have to account their monies spent.

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    10. Re:[Sarcasm]Only 1899[/Sarcasm] by SerpentMage · · Score: 1

      Nope have not held an OQO in my hand. In fact if I did I would say, "COOOL", then ask for the price, and promptly put the device down again. Regarding underpowered CPU. My PowerBook is actually very powerful, has lots of diskspace, REALLY long battery life, and if you get the 12" size is pretty darn small.

      My point about the Tablet is that people who would want a tablet, do not just want the tablet. They will want the notebook first and tablet second. This is why essentially all Tablet makers switched to a rotating clam shell design. So by wanting the tablet second, it is a nice to have complementary device. More important are the notebook features.

      Lets say that I like the OQO and want to buy one. Ok, here is my pricing. I do without a desktop and second notebook. The OQO is my only device. In that case at my desktop I will need an additional screen, keyboard, and mouse. Most likely also a secondary harddisk, and DVDROM/Writer. Add these things and you have another 1K added to the price tag.

      Ok, lets say that OQO is not your primary device. Then you either need a desktop, or notebook. In that case you are probably looking at another 1K minimum.

      In either scenario the OQO is a complementary device that is nice to have. If the OQO is a primary device then it is specific to a vertical market much like the UPS computer.

      Looking at it from any perspective the OQO priced at 1899 USD is too expensive to be mainstream where a company can earn a half decent living.

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    11. Re:[Sarcasm]Only 1899[/Sarcasm] by Coryoth · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What exactly is a mainstream use for these devices ?, why would everyone want one (even non geeks).

      I think these are obviously speciality items, if need a small computer at your hand at any time then this is for you. But most people don't have any use for such a device.


      I think that's extremely shortsighted. Being able to have a powerful versatile computer that had the features I mentioned (large screen size, and powerful input system) on hand at all times would become indespensible as software technology grew to meet it. Imagine being able to sit and watch a film on a decent sized screen wherever you are. Be able to video conference with friends anywhere any time. But it goes further if you get creative - imagine a restaurant offering a fully interactive menu with pictures, and ability to order throught he system, that you can pull up over the restaurants wifi network. Imagine having an extremely powerful notebook and calculator on hand at all times whenever you want to jot something down. Imagine having a wikipedia accessible anytime you want whenever you want to look something up. These are just whatever random ideas occurred to me quickly, many, many more are possible. The key is having a powerful enough system that it is worth having, and having the systems sufficnelt ubiquitous that you can readily assume that a lot of people will have one on hand.

      Jedidiah.

    12. Re:[Sarcasm]Only 1899[/Sarcasm] by NanoGator · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "On a serious note, what I do not understand about these companies, like the Tablet PC companies is that these devices are ideal complementary devices. Price the device at less than 1K and people will buy these devices. Price them near 2K and they will be niche devices that people will look at, comment as interesting, and move on."

      Hopefully I can clear this up a bit:

      Re OQO: Why would anybody want it? Listen man, it wasn't all that long ago people were getting modded up here for saying "People really don't need computers more than 500mhz". In the corporate case, this is definitely true. At my previous company, I watched a number of execs buy laptops, and the big factor that they cared about was size. Why? They travelled around, A LOT. A laptop, even a small one, is not so easy to use on a plane. If they could just stuff it in their pocket, they'd be mucho happy.

      Nearly all the execs at this place had Palm Pilots, but they couldn't leave the laptop at work because they still needed it. (Sadly, this was usually for PowerPoint. Heh. I shoulda been a PowerPoint artist instead of a Lightwave artist. :P) I can honestly see them wanting this thing. Would they buy it? Eh... not sure really. Not sure if they'd understand what it is. Get over that hurdle, and it really could be a hot niche item.

      Re TabletPCs: TabletPCs are full fledged laptops with a Wacom digitizer aboard. The price of those things is mostly justified there. I know. I have one. Now, you're right that people might look at them and move on. It's cool to have the stylus and all, but you are paying extra buckage for a feature that not all may use effectively. However, for those that need them, they're pretty slick. I have one because of that digitizer. A 12" Wacom tablet is like $400. (Boy, that price dropped recently, I remember when those were a lot closer to $1,000!) Not only do I have that 12" tablet, but I also have a screen right UNDER it!
      Man that's great for painting. But yes, you are right, this isn't for everybody.

      Yes, the OQO and the TabletPC are a little spendy. But that is to be expected. New technology stuff ALWAYS comes out at a high price. It's for early adopters willing to spend it. It'll come down. Heck, TabletPCs have come down significantly. Remember when laptops were just nice to have items? They couldn't compare to desktops. Now LOTS of people have them. My point here isn't to shoot you down. You bring up good points. I just wanted to help alleviate some of the frustration here.

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    13. Re:[Sarcasm]Only 1899[/Sarcasm] by qopax · · Score: 1

      a screen, keyboard/mouse, hard drive, and dvd writer costs one thousand dollars? really? hmm, i must've been getting my stuff off the black market cause it's at most half that price

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    14. Re:[Sarcasm]Only 1899[/Sarcasm] by gotih · · Score: 1

      certainly not mainstream, i'm a geek and i live out of my backpack. i write internet applications, usually on friend's computers after booting them with a live cd. my last laptop (a too-large, dell inspiron 5000) finished its life with the case cracked in 17 places and most accessories including pcmcia, cdrom, and floppy, failing (fortunately usb still worked). the main reason was that this laptop was too big for me to provide it with the extra care a piece of electronics requires.

      so a tiny little computer which i can protect in a metal case lined with foam is exactly what i need. i'll carry a cheap usb keyboard and mouse and hook it up to a display whenever one is around.

      that said, the price is kinda high for me and i'd like to try out the competetion too.

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    15. Re:[Sarcasm]Only 1899[/Sarcasm] by cybpunks3 · · Score: 1

      Why is it that Dell can sell PDAs at 624MHZ (which is probably fast enough to run Windows 2000 if it were x86 based) for less than $500 but when you throw a hard drive and a few other ports and switch to x86 suddenly the price skyrockets?

      The next Dell PDA is going to be VGA resolution also.

      The price gap between PDA and subnotebook is a constant but the performance gap is shrinking.

    16. Re:[Sarcasm]Only 1899[/Sarcasm] by cybpunks3 · · Score: 1

      This is starting to get to be an old argument. Haven't hardware designers been working on low-power small-size for a while now?

      Don't laptops use off-the-shelf components from 3rd parties such as the processor and the graphics subsystem? Aren't these produced at a high enough scale to be as affordable as desktop equivalents? How much custom work is really necessary anymore besides the wiring on the board and the casing?

      I think the main thing with price is PERCEIVED value. The public is used to thinking of notebooks as these ultra-rare ultra-high-tech things when they are now becoming mainstream consumer items.

      It's like not that long ago people were used to paying $1,500-$2,000 for a new PC. Then finally we entered into the sub-$1,000 PC era with companies like eMachines and the other PC vendors were forced to follow them to the bottom.

      Now we're finally starting to see sub-$1000 notebooks but some companies still want to charge an ultra-premium for their hardware because they feel the market will bear it.

      It's not a given that the price they want is truly reasonable.

  10. So what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This smells like nothing more than a press release. *yawn*

  11. Seven word review: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Hardware: Tiny delight.
    Operating System: Utter shite.

    1. Re:Seven word review: by Erwos · · Score: 2, Informative

      I see you've never actually tried running Linux on a real slate-style tablet. I have.

      XP Tablet Edition is much, much better than Linux if you're actually trying to be productive with the thing. I know that's a minor heresy to admit on /., but the current Linux handwriting recognition (Xscribble being the best I've seen) software just doesn't compare in accuracy or ease of use. xvkbd fills some of the gaps, but you aren't going to write essays with it.

      If you want to run Linux for Free software reasons on it, I can respect that. But, really, Linux simply isn't there yet on tablets. It's a bitch to set up, and you'll be cursing at the handwriting recognition the whole time.

      Trust me, as crappy as XP is, it's the right choice for one of those.

      -Erwos

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    2. Re:Seven word review: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Trust you? How can I trust you? I dont' even know you!

      BTW- my name is Anonymous. Mr Coward if you prefer...

  12. looking for the specs by frovingslosh · · Score: 1

    I'm at the site now, but it seems slashdotted. I want the specs, particularly the screen resolution. (I'm wondering what the screen res is for this "smallest handtop device", particularly since it can run XP and XP made a lot of VGA monitors obsolete when it insisted on greater than VGA as it's lowest supported resolution.)

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    1. Re:looking for the specs by frovingslosh · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Answering my own question, I found a working link. But the screen resolution is 800x480, when my copy of XP tells me that it needs at a minimum 800x600. Something sure as hell stinks! Is this little outfit getting a special build of XP (seems unlikely)? Why does the retail, full price version of XP insist on a minimum 800x600 display if XP can really run on less (obviously it can, there is no reason an OS needs a larger display, but it really stinks if MS put a limitation in the retail version that obsoleetes your hardware that they will wave for certain OEMs.)

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    2. Re:looking for the specs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      From http://www.oqo.com/hardware/specs/:

      * 1GHz Transmeta processor
      * 20GB hard drive (shock-mounted)
      * 256MB DDR RAM
      * Dimensions: 4.9" x 3.4" x .9"
      * Weight: 14 ozs
      * 800 x 480 W-VGA 5" transflective display (indoor/outdoor readable)
      * 3D accelerated graphics with 8mb video RAM
      * QWERTY thumb keyboard with mouse buttons and TrackStik®
      * 802.11b wireless
      * Bluetooth® wireless
      * 4-pin FireWire® (1394)
      * USB 1.1
      * 3.5mm stereo headphone jack
      * Microphone
      * Digital pen
      * Removable lithium polymer battery
      * Battery life up to three hours, depending on usage
      * OQO docking cable includes:
      o 3D accelerated 1280 x 1024 VGA video output
      o Additional USB
      o Additional FireWire (1394)
      o Ethernet
      o DC power
      o Audio out

      additional features

      * Active hard drive protection that safely parks hard drive heads upon detecting freefall
      * Screen that slides on rack and pinion mechanism to reveal thumb keyboard
      * Shift, control, function and alt keys that have smart-lock with LED indicators
      * Thumbwheel allows for traditional scrolling as well as enhanced features
      * Ambient light sensor that automatically adjusts backlight to appropriate level
      * External antenna connector for 802.11b (in addition to built-in diversity antennas)

      included accessories

      * Power cord & AC adaptor
      * Docking cable
      * Desktop stand
      * Digital pen
      * Carrying sleeve
    3. Re:looking for the specs by Erwos · · Score: 1

      "Is this little outfit getting a special build of XP (seems unlikely)?"

      Does "Tablet Edition" count as a special build?

      -Erwos

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    4. Re:looking for the specs by typhoonius · · Score: 1

      Windows can run at a hell of a lot of weird resolutions that are simply hidden from the Display control pannel applet. It'd get ridiculous if they crammed in every video mode your graphics card is capable of, so obviously, you have to draw the line somewhere. Many of the dialogue boxes, toolbars, and so forth in XP are huge compared to their Windows 95 counterparts. 640x480 is damn near unusable in Windows 2000, and I'd assume XP isn't much different.

    5. Re:looking for the specs by R.Mo_Robert · · Score: 1

      Windows XP can run on 640x480; it's just hidden by default because they don't want you to. (And you really shouldn't either, because it won't be pleasant.) It is still accessible with List All Modes (Advanced > Adapter). That said, the other poster has mentioned Tablet Edition.

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    6. Re:looking for the specs by frovingslosh · · Score: 1
      And you really shouldn't either, because it won't be pleasant

      What you "should" do is highly dependent on the application. As a general desktop this might be true, although I doubt that there is any reason I can't use a display at 640x480 under WinXP that was quite suitable at 640x480 under Win 3.1 (heck, XP even has more colors, so the display will look better, not worse. But that asside, there are many times when the computer isn't a desktop computer, it's away in a corner somewhere as a server, or is running some dedicated application where 640x480 would be just fine. Yet I had been lead to believe that I could not even install WinXP unless it had at least an 800x600 monitor (and maybe I can't since I would need to get it installed before I could get at these advanced adapter settings). What a disservice to the paying customer, just because some Microsoft geek has unlimited resources and a fancy 23 inch monitor.

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    7. Re:looking for the specs by AsmordeanX · · Score: 1

      Using Powerstrip you can force XP to run even at 320x200, although it is basically impossible to use.

    8. Re:looking for the specs by pkhuong · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      It doesn't run TPC Edition: it doesn't have an active digitizer, so MS won't sell it to them (avoids "Ohnoes, i have to lift my hand when i write", i guess). IIRC, it was supposed to ship with XP Home.

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    9. Re:looking for the specs by pkhuong · · Score: 1

      Oh, and i seem to remember that resolution >= 1024x768 is another requirement to get TPC Edition.

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    10. Re:looking for the specs by EndlessNameless · · Score: 1

      When lacking a video driver, WinXP loads the VGASave service, which provides full 2D drawing support (albeit without hardware acceleration) at 640x480, and it will automatically try to up the resolution to 800x600 on the first boot. (It asks if it's ok, and then it pops up one of those "Changed screen resolution, can you read this? / Yes button / No button" boxes.) It subsequently boots to 800x600 until a video driver is loaded that supports another resolution.

      And while you can work the GUI at a lower resolution than 800x600, it isn't easy. By default, buttons and bars are bigger, which leaves less usable space. I think the 800x600 requirement is one of those that simply makes things easier for the 99% of end users who don't really know what an operating system is. Kind of like the memory requirements for Windows 95/98... you could boot 95 with less RAM than required, but it would be so incredibly slow as to be not worth the trouble.

      I think this is done largely because some casual users assume that a "required" system should make the software optimally functional. While this does result in some bloating of the minimum system specs, it probably greatly reduces support headaches for people who will not understand that the commonly-provided list of recommended system specs is supplied over and above the list of required specs for a reason.

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    11. Re:looking for the specs by cybpunks3 · · Score: 1

      I heard that the hardware can do some kind of scrolling thing to simulate a full 800x600 display so nothing gets cut off.

  13. Overpriced? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    For that price, I can get like 20 junk computers and build a Beowulf cluster. I don't see the point in this.

    1. Re:Overpriced? by Chess_the_cat · · Score: 3, Funny

      Can you fit a Beowulf cluster in your pocket?

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    2. Re:Overpriced? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes.

    3. Re:Overpriced? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      ...or are you just pleased to see me?

  14. The O-- what ? by clarkie.mg · · Score: 4, Funny

    The OGO, the OJO, the OKO and the OQO ...

    OhGOd !

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    1. Re:The O-- what ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The OGO, the OJO, the OKO and the OQO ...

      LOL! OQO?!

  15. Touch screen doesn't cut it anymore by melted · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I can buy a mighty fine Tablet PC for less than that. Sure it will be a bit larger, but it has a _tablet_ behind the screen. I can actually write on the damn thing and it recognizes my chicken-scratch.

    1. Re:Touch screen doesn't cut it anymore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe that the OQO has a genuine Wacom digitizer behind it's screen. So it CAN recognize your chicken scratch. I think the only reason they don't include WinXP Tablet Edition right on the OQO is that it doesn't actually meet Microsoft's tablet certification specs for screen and digitizer resolution. I have heard beta testers that verified WinXP Tablet Edition DOES work on the device...

    2. Re:Touch screen doesn't cut it anymore by pkhuong · · Score: 1

      No. Touch Screen. But that hasn't stopped people from installing TPC on their U50, it's just that MS won't let manufacturers put TPC on devices with touch screens.

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  16. Hmm by Erwos · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Some intitial thoughts:
    1. 256mb isn't terribly good. 512mb would be better. That said, it's _probably_ acceptable for the kind of usage they're talking about.
    2. Who are they aiming this at? Photos seem to indicate business execs, which seems reasonable - they're the sort that actually use PDAs, and probably don't require huge amounts of multimedia power.
    3. Docking _cable_? For nineteen hundred bucks, I expect to see an integrated docking bay, one with a slot that I can slide the OQO into. Specs mention some kind of desktop stand, but that sounds kinda cheesy, to be honest.
    4. They need to make it a little more obvious that you're supposed to being using a Bluetooth cell phone with this thing for Internet access on the go.
    5. Battery life seems like it's on the low side - 3 hours just isn't all that long anymore.
    6. Security? If the corporate executive is using this thing, chances are he has some confidential info on it. An OQO seems easy to steal - is there any built-in encryption support?

    So, cool idea, but a little too expensive. I could see this becoming something of a status symbol in the corporate world, though. "Think that's a PDA? Well, take a look at THIS!" Surprisingly, I think they've addressed their target market pretty well - replaces the Blackberry, PDA, and laptop.

    -Erwos

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    1. Re:Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      battery life of three hours is not bad considering what they fit into something that is not much bigger than an iPod, and does way more.

    2. Re:Hmm by gl4ss · · Score: 2, Informative

      then you could like the flybook.

      higher specs, more 'innovative', 3g, looks nicer to use.. and it's cheaper.

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    3. Re:Hmm by ssimontis · · Score: 1

      My ideas for a mobile device are probably quite a few years away, but I think these features would be really cool: 1. Hologrpahic Keyboard: This way you could get the full sized keyboard and have it anywhere you wanted. 2. Built In Projector: This way the mobile device would be great for on the go presentations, and the projector could also function as a larger screen. It doesn't need to be a state of the art $1000 projector, just one that can get maybe 15-20 inches so it can be like a normal computer. Not sure how this would work in the real world, but sounds cool in theory, at least to me.

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    4. Re:Hmm by CommanderData · · Score: 1

      Well, your "holographic" keyboard is basically a reality right now. Canesta has developed the hardware to project a keyboard on a flat surface and detect when you press down on each key. It is compact enough to be built into existing PDAs. I really wish someone would put out a PC based handheld or PDA with that technology built in!

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    5. Re:Hmm by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 1

      3 hours run time is not too bad, compared to the nitwit magnets called Pentium 4 laptops, where 1 hour is considered good.

      The specs are very good for a PC that is about the size of a pack of 3"x5" cards, just under 1" thick.

    6. Re:Hmm by jdkane · · Score: 1
      OQO seems easy to steal - is there any built-in encryption support?

      The Windows XP Professional OS supports encryption of data for users, however I believe OQO comes with XP Home Edition, and I'm not sure if the encryption feature is available there -- my memory seems to indicate it isn't, and I'm too lazy to look it up, so if somebody knows different, please reply. Thanks.

    7. Re:Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This thing is a heck of a lot bigger than an iPod. Like about 4x iPod's I think.

  17. 1899USD? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    werent these originally supposed to be priced at somewhere between $800-1200?

  18. MS tax ? by InodoroPereyra · · Score: 3, Insightful
    This is a recurrent but valid question. From the preview:
    The OQO comes with XP Home, but on account of the companies large interest in marketing towards mobile professionals, XP Professional will most likely be an option as well. OQO CEO Jory Bell confirms that the x86 architecture is capable of being used with any x86 based OS, such as Linux.

    Further talks have revealed that some OQO employees have already tested out Linux on the device with success.

    It's all good. So, can I buy it with no OS, with the cost of windows XP deducted from the total price ? Or do I have to pay the MS tax, even if I don't plan on using Win XP on it?
    1. Re:MS tax ? by drigz · · Score: 0

      As long as you don't agree to their EULA when you first boot it up, you can apply to MS for a refund. I saw a guide on what to do somewhere, I can't remember off the top of my head where though - try google.

    2. Re:MS tax ? by Erwos · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "As long as you don't agree to their EULA when you first boot it up, you can apply to MS for a refund. I saw a guide on what to do somewhere, I can't remember off the top of my head where though - try google."

      Wrong. Microsoft's EULAs for Windows on OEM computers almost always direct you to go to the OEM for the refund. So, really, this is an issue to settle with OQO themselves.

      Ask before you buy. And if you don't like their answer, don't buy.

      -Erwos

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    3. Re:MS tax ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even doing this does not save you much. It is usually about 30-50 dollars for each MS piece. OEM pricing is VERY nice from MS. If you think you are going to get 100+ from doing that think again.

  19. These are really neat but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Were beta testing them at work and they are really neat. They are way overpriced considering thier limited use. Ours is missing the WI-FI and the touchscreen and if the battery is not improved its very weak. For the money I would just go buy a lightweight notebook.

  20. Wikipedia stub by antimatt · · Score: 3, Informative

    The Wikipedia article needs some serious work. Calling all knowledgeable nerds.

    1. Re:Wikipedia stub by Querty · · Score: 1

      Hmmm, seems pretty accurate to me. What do you consider missing?

    2. Re:Wikipedia stub by antimatt · · Score: 1

      The article consists of four general sentences. Nothing is inaccurate as far as I can tell; it's just lean on details in a "where's the beef?" sort of way.

      I myself don't have anything useful to add to the article. Hence the cry for help.

  21. I heard it ships with Duke Nukem installed... by mrklin · · Score: 2, Funny

    Kills two vaporwares with one product release!

  22. Re:expose by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    You know, some of us actually left their parent's basement and need to make their own money, strange as it may seem to you.

    Fine, but keep it the fuck away from Slashdot. Go to ebay or buy a GoogleAd you fucking dumbass. This is a news site not fucking Amazon.

  23. I think so... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think so,

    As for the GPU:
    http://www.siliconmotion.com/ch/sm722.htm

    And transmeta cpu's are also supported by linux, if i recal correctly.

    So i gues it should (in theory,) work with OSS products.

    But i find the price tag a litle steep, halve the price and i wil be interested.

    My input ;).

    1. Re:I think so... by dasmegabyte · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Of course the price is high, this is the first one. The first device of its kind, in its size, with its robust feature set. It's new, it's revolutionary and nobody has one. Some people will buy that kind of thing regardless of price -- developers will buy it to design software for it, rich technophiles will buy it just to have one and people who have been waiting for JUST such a device, saving their pennies, are waiting in the wings to buy one. I won't doubt if they're sold out for a year, even if the thing doesn't work! The first SLR digital cameras were like that -- they cost THOUSANDS of dollars and people would snatch them up left and right. Because a few thousand dollars was PEANUTS compared to the time saved by these things.

      However, if the thing is even moderately popular, expect to see scads of poorly made clones some time next year, followed by the introduction of a new "entry level" model.

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    2. Re:I think so... by TWX · · Score: 1

      Scary that the entry level version will probably be at least a third more powerful than this one, while the new high end model will likely blow this one out of the water. They can market the entry level one at $999 and the high end one at $1999, increasing their profits for those that feel that they must have the high end one, and making a lot on those who feel that they need one, even if it's the low end model.

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    3. Re:I think so... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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    4. Re:I think so... by dasmegabyte · · Score: 1

      This post violates my copyrights Now I can never release my "Best of Dasmegabyte.org" DVD set, featuring out takes and shocking interviews with the penis pill spammers who comment on my articles. I expect restitution to the tune of $10 US, which reflects the money I would have received marketting said DVD to my mom.

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  24. Why then did Sony killed U-50 and U-70 ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This thing is DoA. Sony tried this concept already and failed; there is no market for this. PDA's are just as capable and 15% of the price. This is typical /. whiz-bang, gadget-hype for products w/o a future. See also: NeXT and Cray.

    1. Re:Why then did Sony killed U-50 and U-70 ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Almost, except that PDAs don't sell for shit either. All of this stuff is nothing but executive toys. They sell a few thousand units and that's it. It's pure niche toys.

  25. Quite cool. by bbum · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I played with an OQO at Foo camp. It is the real deal.

    The display is impressively clear in both low light and direct sunlight. As a whole, the produce is very well engineered and the UI felt relatively snappy.

    It does run Linux and uses the same hard drive internally as an iPod. Battery life is fairly decent, given computing power, and the battery is designed such that you can upgrade to a higher capacity battery that is simply thicker than the original (making the entire unit thicker).

    The screen is also touch sensitive and there is a stylus slot in the top of the unit. As such, one could definitely read email, browse the web, navigate meetings/schedules/calendars, and read documents without having to pop it open to use the keyboard.

    The keyboard certainly does not have the feel of a full sized board, but is surprisingly usable for the size.

    One of the neatest features is the "docking cable". Basically, OQO will provide a cable that has all of the various different ports -- usb, firewire, video, etc... -- hanging off of it.

    The unit has a cradle that you can leave on your desk. It has VGA out. So, in combination with a bluetooth keyboard/mouse and an external monitor, you can drop the OQO into the cradle and it "just works".

    Certainly not a primary machine for gamers or developers, but a damned nice little device for folks that want a portable computing device that offers a more real computing experience than a palm device, blackberry, or the like.

  26. zerg by Lord+Omlette · · Score: 1

    Those grumbling about the price will get a laptop from Averatec for about half the price.

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    1. Re:zerg by pkhuong · · Score: 1

      Or a (AMD!) tablet PC for the same price :)

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  27. its nice to see,,, by maxdamage · · Score: 1

    some vaporware that may actualy materialize... it it too soon to call half-life 2 vaporware?

  28. $1899!?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's 3-4 times what I would pay for one.

  29. Active hard drive protection that safely parks... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    > * Active hard drive protection that safely parks hard drive heads upon detecting freefall

    *That* is freaking cool. The longer the fall, the more time it has to react, and the bigger the mess that it just avoided. There have been times that I've experienced that slow-motion "aww crap, this is gonna be expensive" feeling, and finally someone builds hardware that can protect itself in these case. Very nice.

  30. HALVE the price? by StarKruzr · · Score: 1

    It probably costs more than $950 just for the individual components. Be realistic.

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  31. That's great but... by Rocky1138 · · Score: 1

    ... how does one put software on this device? There's no CD-ROM drive! I didn't see anything like that in the video, either. Any ideas?

    1. Re:That's great but... by pkhuong · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Network. USB.

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  32. The price... by StarKruzr · · Score: 1

    ... will descend after enough corporations splurge on this to recover OQO Inc.'s costs. Expect it to be $1600 by the middle of next year.

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  33. No offense, man by StarKruzr · · Score: 1

    But you're insane if you think just the COMPONENTS of this thing run the company $542 in cost.

    What the hell is the matter with you? There are PDAs that cost $600 that aren't a quarter as capable as these things are.

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    1. Re:No offense, man by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hehe, ever heard of the sharp zaurus??

  34. transflective backlight by LordMyren · · Score: 1

    whats the deal with them having an adjustable backlight on a transflective display?

    i thought most transflective displays had no backlight.

    1. Re:transflective backlight by gildesh · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well, looking at the word "transflective" I can only guess that it's a mixture of "reflective" and "transmissive", meaning that it relfects some light in order to illuminate the display, but has a backlight to boost the output.

    2. Re:transflective backlight by michaeldot · · Score: 2, Informative

      As far as I understand, all transflective screens have backlights.

      How else would you see them in the dark?

      The difference is that when used outside a transflective screen doesn't compete with the sun and uses natural light to illuminate the display. So the backlight isn't needed in bright light, but is in low light.

  35. I'm torn, because it doesn't stand a chance... by Dzimas · · Score: 1

    Lets be realistic. This thing is really cool, and I'd love to have one. But I'm not about to shell out $1900 on it. I suspect most others will react the same way, with a "cool, but..." response. It begs the question: "DIDN'T ANYONE DO ANY MARKET RESEARCH ON PRICE POINT?" I suspect that it wouldn't be terribly positive. Now, if the price was $999 things might be different. It might become my favourite travelling toy. As it is, I'd rather have a Blackberry or Palm for those times I leave my real machine behind.

    1. Re:I'm torn, because it doesn't stand a chance... by nerk88 · · Score: 1

      Why is it that people always complain that something is too expensive. I'm certain they did do market research as to the price point, but I suspect they also want to make money. Those minature components are not cheap, and this is a very capable device.

      As an owner of a desktop, laptop, palm and office laptop, I would seriously consider this kind of thing as a replacement for a lot of my stuff. Not to mention a small powerfull devise to use with a digital camera.

    2. Re:I'm torn, because it doesn't stand a chance... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Market research??? Please child!

      It is as simple as ABC, and as easy as 123... charge as much as viable until another uPC enters the fray.

      As demand rose, so did its launch price. The price will fall once competition sets in. It is all economics dude... now pass me another dubie.

  36. How much does OQO pay for 'news' ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mandrake community 10.1 torrent is out for non-club members. No mention of that though. But hey, a vapor company has vapor product available "some time soon" !

  37. Watch out! by paronomasia5 · · Score: 1
    I almost placed an order with these guys 2 years ago!!! I was a huge transmetta buff and wanted a small laptop. They wanted to happily take my deposit, and ship me the unit when it came out in the fall of 2002! Anyways, I didn't bite.

    anyways 2 years later, they are still claiming to have a unit "coming out in the fall".

    If you want a tiny palmtop pc, check out the sony u-series, available in japan, or via dynamism.com importers.

    The latest of the incredibly popular U-series, the 1.2 pound Sony Vaio U70/U50 is the lightest PC on the market. Among its many features: multiple quick-launch buttons on its glowing panel, transflective touchscreen TFT and fin-shaped stylus, pointing stick, scrolling control, external foldable keyboard, corded remote control, 1ghz processor, 20gb HDD, Windows XP, and much mor

  38. Re:expose by 0x0d0a · · Score: 1

    You know, some of us actually left their parent's basement and need to make their own money, strange as it may seem to you.

    I wonder what would have happened if someone like you had managed to make Steve Jobs ashamed enough not to start Apple Computer in his parents' garage.

  39. Oqo vs. Zaurus and Starcraft on the John by SoupIsGood+Food · · Score: 1

    I dunno. If what you need is a pocketable Linux workstation, the newest Zaurus, at $600 or so, is probably a much better option. It will even run X-windows apps with a little work and recompilation. Is the Oqo worth $1200 in convienience? Will recompiling the apps you need for the Zaurus cost you more than $1200 in billable time? It's unlikely.

    I suppose if you're tied to proprietary apps, or just want to compile x86 code while sitting on the airplane toilet, the Oqo is a fine choice.

    Windows users tied to windows-only vertical apps but requiring high mobility (FSTs, sales reps, etc.) will adore this thing. It will also let you play Starcraft while sitting on the airplain toilet.

    "Nuclear launch detected!"

    1. Re:Oqo vs. Zaurus and Starcraft on the John by Hanno · · Score: 1

      The newest Zaurus, at $600 or so, is probably a much better option. It will even run X-windows apps with a little work and recompilation.

      Then you can have mine, if you wish. The Zaurus is the most expensive completely useless toy I ever bought.

      Will recompiling the apps you need for the Zaurus cost you more than $1200 in billable time? It's unlikely.

      I did spend way more than that time trying to get OpenZaurus / OPIE running on that thing. It still doesn't really run. OZ / OPIE is highly unstable. The official Zaurus Linux distribution comes with a rather useless set of PIM applications, so that doesn't cut it.

      I use Linux on a daily basis and administrate several servers, some of them using funky hardware. But I haven't been able to install Linux in a satisfying configuration on the Zaurus.

      I would exchange the Zaurus for an x86 compatible PDA any day, running standard Debian.

      Yes, I know that the Zaurus can be used with ARM Debian. But now try to connect a mouse, a keyboard or similar devices on it...

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  40. Price vs. Capabilities by stibles · · Score: 1

    Of course everyone wants it all for cheaper, but there are a few things to consider here.

    1. This is supposed to replace a laptop and a pda for an executive. This is not a primary machine for someone who is coding or gaming. Email, Word, Excel, Web browsing, etc. These are the target apps, so the specs speak to that.

    2. This is a new class of device. The price point is obviously high relative to PDAs because it's NOT a PDA.

    3. This is Rev. A hardware. It's been two YEARS in the making. How long before they rev the hardware and discount these Rev A models? (Bigger HD, 11g instead of 11b, 512MB instead of 256, etc.)

    4. Gimme this form factor with a 1ghz G3 running OS X and I'm a buyer. Windows does nothing for me and the last app I would ever run on a Winbox is Outlook, but I guess to each their own. Linux is an option, but doesn't the touchscreen need drivers?

    LAST - This isn't news. But that guy from Handtops.com (the only two links in the summary are to Handtops.com) is a shameless huckster. I liked the site until he started shamelessly promoting it without any real news.

    1. Re:Price vs. Capabilities by michaeldot · · Score: 1

      4. Gimme this form factor with a 1ghz G3 running OS X and I'm a buyer. Windows does nothing for me

      The story goes that the company's founders used to be associated with Apple's laptop department. They came up with the idea of the tiny laptop and offered it to Steve Jobs, who rejected it as being unsuited to Apple's product mix.

      (Understandable - at the time Apple would still have been recovering from the fallout of everyone sniping at the Cube. Not much encouragement around to try radical form factors again.)

      Often ex-Apple people do come to market with some excellent concepts, so it will be interesting to see how it goes. But think what could have been: the functionality of this OQO combined with the styling and sheer sexiness of the iPod, and the power of a user-friendly Unix.

    2. Re:Price vs. Capabilities by stibles · · Score: 1

      What really gets me is that the Transmeta chip can emulate other processors but they've never written the code. If only they'd code it to emulate a PowerPC chip...

      I recognize that you'd still need the Apple OpenFirmware to install OS X, but at least we'd be one step closer.

      I'll bet that given the consolidation we've seen in the PDA market and the "lack" of support in Garnet (PalmOS 6) for the Mac platform (yeah yeah Missing Sync yada yada yada), Ol' Stevie is kicking himself for sending these guys out-of-house.

  41. Ultraportables by ultrapcs · · Score: 2, Informative

    Hello All. Here is a nice web site that discusses the new class of portable computers ultra pcs : http://ultraportables.net/ or http://u-pcs.com/

  42. Re:fp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    HOW the FUCK did you know my NAME????

  43. Damn by xombo · · Score: 1

    I guess I'll have to release another of my children into slavery and sell some stem cells.

  44. Re:expose by quinto2000 · · Score: 1

    Re your signature:

    Don't you think it's a little limited to suggest that the only time we can engage in a critical discussion of the administration is during an election? Not only that, but I feel that elections are the most inconsequential of the ways that I can participate in our democratic institutions. How much weight does one vote have? You should re-read Anthony Downs.

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  45. "hehe!" by StarKruzr · · Score: 1

    Yes, in fact I own one. Again, it's not a quarter as capable as an OQO.

    No USB
    No Firewire
    No hard drive (HELLO, MCFLY?!)
    No x86 processor

    Do I really need to compare specs on these things?

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  46. Slashdot IS spyware? by JamesR2 · · Score: 1

    I have seen too many /. threads turn into an OS flamefest. I submit that /. must be a bot that causes discussion to go off-topic to this beyond-tired rant. Comments?

  47. mods on crack?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    how is this flaimbait?? It answers the question asked! Guess I better post AC too in case this is modded 'Petunia'...