Couldn't use any imagination couldja? "Hey look, I can shoot holes into his post instead of understanding his point."
Didn't occur to you that mass-transit would be first to get not only rations of oil, but new energy technologies as well. Some people can't afford to just turn around and buy a new $20,000 car could they?
Funny, you just illustrated exactly what was wrong with that article: Your response, just like that article, assumed everything'd remain constant. Never taking into account that things change.
It's kinda like saying "If we all keep breathing air, we'll run out of oxygen in 12 years!", without realizing that trees would turn the Carbon Dioxide back into O2.
... Nasa has launched it's first space vehicle built to suck all the air off of an oxygen-rich planet and contain it in a giant bag for delivery back to Earth. In memory of 9-11, the ship was modeled after the Statue of Liberty.
Due to recent events, insiders at Nasa are publically questioning a last-minute design change where engineers added an external switch to the vacuum generator. One engineer, who refused to be identified, was quoted as saying "Anybody with a ring from a Crackerjack box could throw that switch. There's no way that ship's coming back full."
...as long as we pretend like nothing's ever going to change.
Let's be realistic here: Let's say that we know Petroleum is going to dry up a year from now. What's going to happen? We're either going Fuel Cell shopping, or we're going to get bus tickets. We'll get by.
We may 'consume' but we're hardly going to cause the race to go extinct over it. It's not like we're selling 'Perri-Air'.
The game runs just fine until it starts raining, then the cops come after me with the helicopter.
Unless P4s behave better with Nvidia drivers. I've heard of other cards with 'special optimizations for P4'. No idea if Geforce 4s are part of that or not, though.
I'm running a 1.2 gig Athlon at 640 by 480 by 16, it goes pretty slow too. When things are clear, it goes relatively smooth. Once it starts raining, I get like 5 fps. Seriously. I'm running a Geforce 4 MX.
Heh that's funny because I am in Oregon. The area I'm talking about is just south of Portland on I-5. There's ALWAYS cops with laser out there.
I didn't know that about Oregon law, though. I appreciate you pointing that out because I'm originally from Kansas. I had this idea stuck in my head that you had 7mph margin of error there. Glad I didn't test it.
Hmm... I wonder if they can legally pass judgement on what is considered 'speeding'. Wouldn't the state gov't step in? Okay, I'm cluess about law, but in a wierd way I could see the state saying "nope, you can't penalize for something that we penalize people for." Is there any basis for what I'm thinking here? (Please be kind, I'm trying to learn here.)
If not, I could imagine Walmart having a EULA placed at the entry way. "By entering this doorway, you agree to abide by our rules. Should you get caught shoplifting, you agree that we can cut off your hand....". Heh.
It wouldn't be that bad unless the site got slashdotted. Most of GTA3's slowdown comes from drawing the graphics, not from calculating stuff. A faster video card would = smoother frame rate.
Too bad the game's not as fancy as Quake when it comes to settings. It does NOT degrade gracefully.
It wouldn't take much horsepower to get Apache to spit out a page within 90 seconds.
Heh. I was being silly. Seems like every time there's a story like this, some users here immediately go into "I dont care how painful it is, I'm going to avoid ever needing it" mode.:)
My company has a real use for this, unfortunately NDA prevents me from talking about it. Let's just say that if you ever want to do anything in real time, there's no such thing as 'too much bandwidth'.
According to Sony, it can serve a quarter of a billion "hello world" pages to itself. Based on that number, it's the most powerful web server in the world.
(Anybody who remembers Sony's 'The PS2 can handle 66 million invisible polys a second' marketing will find that amusing.)
Thanks for posting the LART link, I'm looking at it now.
I envisioned that the pages would be served up from a small 8-meg RAM disk.
You bring up an excellent point about the limitations of the machine. I wasn't picturing a huge site in my mind, I was picturing something like a small 'brochure' kind of site. Don't they make a 40-gig hard-drive for the PS-2, though?
Heh Just today I was playing with the cruise control in my car. The speed limit was 55, so I set it to 60 and stayed in the middle lane. I still had people tail gating me. I eventually relented and did it manually, despite the fact that the area I was driving through is a well known speed trap.
It doesn't sound like they're giving anybody the opportunity to challenge the claims. It's a touchy issue. At least when a police officer pulls you over, you know exactly where you are and what conditions caused you to do what you did. But if you return your car after 3 days and find that you have been fined for doing 70 in a 50 zone, how are you going to remember that you passed a semi?
I haven't developed my opinion on using GPS to fine people using rental cars yet, but I will go on record as saying they need to let people know beforehand. So many things are taken for granted these days. Anybody who makes a change like that without being super obvious and up front about it is not being ethical in the slightest.
"Another bizarre, ridiculous and completely useless application of the technology."
Only if you have no imagination. At work, there's a rack-mount web server that's basically an appliance that somebody bought for used for $300. They say it originally cost over $2,000. The nice thing about this type of appliance is that it has few parts to go bad on it. However, it does suffer from lack of features. (It's basically just an HTTP server, no PHP support etc...)
Well, they got Apache running on a PS2. That means that PHP and all those other fun features of it will (presumably) work as well. I don't think it's too far away from burning a DVD, popping it in the PS2, turning it on, and boom you have a webserver running. The neat thing is that this $199 (new, and will always get cheaper) device should, in theory, stay up to date with Apache.
PS2's will eventually go the way of the Dreamcast, and will reach ridiculously low ($50) prices. Personally, I'd rather set one of those things up once and reboot once in a while rather than having to maintain a machine with failing hard-drives and so on. If the thing breaks, buy it with one of those 1 year warranties for $20 and have them swap out with a new one. Heh. I bet you can't get a web appliance with that kinda guarantee! Setup is a breeze!
I'm tempted to look into how to build a PC that boots off a flash card so I can remove all of the moving parts from it. That'd last forever, I bet. Actually, if anybody knows of a good place to find that info, fire a link to me. (I'll do a Google search later, but I'd much rather hear from somebody who's gone down that road.) In the mean time, I have finally found an interesting use for a PS2!
"You too can have a server farm for web serving, and GTA3."
Well you don't really need a PS2 running Linux to do that. Just use a Windows 2000 box running Apache, then you can serve web pages while playing GTA 3.
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Then you got big bones in your ass and stomach!
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Hey dudes, I responded to this guy's post, but I'm the one who got modded up. I think the actual +1 Funny should go to him instead of me.
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"They said that the new 'Camilla' processor will be out in q4 of 2002."
Oh man. Hehe. There's going to be like 3 people who get that joke. *snicker* At least Gonzo will finally get some work.
Couldn't use any imagination couldja? "Hey look, I can shoot holes into his post instead of understanding his point."
Didn't occur to you that mass-transit would be first to get not only rations of oil, but new energy technologies as well. Some people can't afford to just turn around and buy a new $20,000 car could they?
Funny, you just illustrated exactly what was wrong with that article: Your response, just like that article, assumed everything'd remain constant. Never taking into account that things change.
It's kinda like saying "If we all keep breathing air, we'll run out of oxygen in 12 years!", without realizing that trees would turn the Carbon Dioxide back into O2.
Hey, I don't feel bad. The card cost me only $150, and I have a fully accellerated dual monitor setup to boot.
:)
I was running a Matrox G550, and the 3d on it was HORRID. *Not dissatisfied*
... Nasa has launched it's first space vehicle built to suck all the air off of an oxygen-rich planet and contain it in a giant bag for delivery back to Earth. In memory of 9-11, the ship was modeled after the Statue of Liberty.
Due to recent events, insiders at Nasa are publically questioning a last-minute design change where engineers added an external switch to the vacuum generator. One engineer, who refused to be identified, was quoted as saying "Anybody with a ring from a Crackerjack box could throw that switch. There's no way that ship's coming back full."
...as long as we pretend like nothing's ever going to change.
Let's be realistic here: Let's say that we know Petroleum is going to dry up a year from now. What's going to happen? We're either going Fuel Cell shopping, or we're going to get bus tickets. We'll get by.
We may 'consume' but we're hardly going to cause the race to go extinct over it. It's not like we're selling 'Perri-Air'.
Hmm maybe I'm wrong then.
:)
The game runs just fine until it starts raining, then the cops come after me with the helicopter.
Unless P4s behave better with Nvidia drivers. I've heard of other cards with 'special optimizations for P4'. No idea if Geforce 4s are part of that or not, though.
Or I'm just wrong.
Yeah, Brazil's the same way. Everything there is really cheap (like food, etc) but anything that has some technology to it... bah forget it.
Where are you? Australia?
(Seriously interested, not being sarcastic)
I'm running a 1.2 gig Athlon at 640 by 480 by 16, it goes pretty slow too. When things are clear, it goes relatively smooth. Once it starts raining, I get like 5 fps. Seriously. I'm running a Geforce 4 MX.
I'm sure it's my card.
That's really cool! Thanks man! :)
Heh that's funny because I am in Oregon. The area I'm talking about is just south of Portland on I-5. There's ALWAYS cops with laser out there.
I didn't know that about Oregon law, though. I appreciate you pointing that out because I'm originally from Kansas. I had this idea stuck in my head that you had 7mph margin of error there. Glad I didn't test it.
Hmm... I wonder if they can legally pass judgement on what is considered 'speeding'. Wouldn't the state gov't step in? Okay, I'm cluess about law, but in a wierd way I could see the state saying "nope, you can't penalize for something that we penalize people for." Is there any basis for what I'm thinking here? (Please be kind, I'm trying to learn here.)
If not, I could imagine Walmart having a EULA placed at the entry way. "By entering this doorway, you agree to abide by our rules. Should you get caught shoplifting, you agree that we can cut off your hand....". Heh.
If you're having that problem, I suggest you remove 'NetBEUI' from your nervous system and go for a lighter protocol. ;
It wouldn't be that bad unless the site got slashdotted. Most of GTA3's slowdown comes from drawing the graphics, not from calculating stuff. A faster video card would = smoother frame rate.
Too bad the game's not as fancy as Quake when it comes to settings. It does NOT degrade gracefully.
It wouldn't take much horsepower to get Apache to spit out a page within 90 seconds.
Heh. I was being silly. Seems like every time there's a story like this, some users here immediately go into "I dont care how painful it is, I'm going to avoid ever needing it" mode. :)
My company has a real use for this, unfortunately NDA prevents me from talking about it. Let's just say that if you ever want to do anything in real time, there's no such thing as 'too much bandwidth'.
I can get by just fine without 10-gigabit networking. All I haveta do is wait longer for the data!
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Heh I figured it was something like that. I was goin for a +1 Funny. Wasn't that funny tho. Oh well... :)
According to Sony, it can serve a quarter of a billion "hello world" pages to itself. Based on that number, it's the most powerful web server in the world.
(Anybody who remembers Sony's 'The PS2 can handle 66 million invisible polys a second' marketing will find that amusing.)
"Now I can set up a webserver on my PS2 and visit it with my Dreamcast! Once they get the Xbox running linux, we'll be all set."
Three web-servers?
Can't the Dreamcast handle the load of both your friends visiting it? Heh.
Thanks for posting the LART link, I'm looking at it now.
I envisioned that the pages would be served up from a small 8-meg RAM disk.
You bring up an excellent point about the limitations of the machine. I wasn't picturing a huge site in my mind, I was picturing something like a small 'brochure' kind of site. Don't they make a 40-gig hard-drive for the PS-2, though?
Heh Just today I was playing with the cruise control in my car. The speed limit was 55, so I set it to 60 and stayed in the middle lane. I still had people tail gating me. I eventually relented and did it manually, despite the fact that the area I was driving through is a well known speed trap.
It doesn't sound like they're giving anybody the opportunity to challenge the claims. It's a touchy issue. At least when a police officer pulls you over, you know exactly where you are and what conditions caused you to do what you did. But if you return your car after 3 days and find that you have been fined for doing 70 in a 50 zone, how are you going to remember that you passed a semi?
I haven't developed my opinion on using GPS to fine people using rental cars yet, but I will go on record as saying they need to let people know beforehand. So many things are taken for granted these days. Anybody who makes a change like that without being super obvious and up front about it is not being ethical in the slightest.
"Another bizarre, ridiculous and completely useless application of the technology."
Only if you have no imagination. At work, there's a rack-mount web server that's basically an appliance that somebody bought for used for $300. They say it originally cost over $2,000. The nice thing about this type of appliance is that it has few parts to go bad on it. However, it does suffer from lack of features. (It's basically just an HTTP server, no PHP support etc...)
Well, they got Apache running on a PS2. That means that PHP and all those other fun features of it will (presumably) work as well. I don't think it's too far away from burning a DVD, popping it in the PS2, turning it on, and boom you have a webserver running. The neat thing is that this $199 (new, and will always get cheaper) device should, in theory, stay up to date with Apache.
PS2's will eventually go the way of the Dreamcast, and will reach ridiculously low ($50) prices. Personally, I'd rather set one of those things up once and reboot once in a while rather than having to maintain a machine with failing hard-drives and so on. If the thing breaks, buy it with one of those 1 year warranties for $20 and have them swap out with a new one. Heh. I bet you can't get a web appliance with that kinda guarantee! Setup is a breeze!
I'm tempted to look into how to build a PC that boots off a flash card so I can remove all of the moving parts from it. That'd last forever, I bet. Actually, if anybody knows of a good place to find that info, fire a link to me. (I'll do a Google search later, but I'd much rather hear from somebody who's gone down that road.) In the mean time, I have finally found an interesting use for a PS2!
Cheers.
"You too can have a server farm for web serving, and GTA3."
Well you don't really need a PS2 running Linux to do that. Just use a Windows 2000 box running Apache, then you can serve web pages while playing GTA 3.
You can't do that on a PS2!!!