So should the conference be held at all. It is after all premised on the use of IT rather than manual nethods to "harness the potential of knowledge and technology" and to "find effective and innovative ways to put this potential at the service of development for all."
There are pros and cons to the use of any methodology and it is open to anyone to make a recommendation based on whatever factors they wants as to which is appropriate in a given context.
IT users should after all be smart enough to be able to work out if the recommendation is a good one. Lots of bad ones are ignored. Hell, lots of good ones are ignored.
This is a far cry from torpedoing open-source
Sure, by itself it won't and there will be no one thing that does. You think all those strategists for Business Software Alliance, CompTIA etc. are sitting round trying to think of ONE BIG IDEA to sink open source.
But it is one straw and to ensure one straw dosen't finally do it each straw should be thrown away as soon as possible.
and its official position is that 'using free software to achieve the WSIS goals might get in the way of an intellectual property owner's ability to make a profit'; in other words, they want to make the world safe for capitalism."
That is not what the official position of the organization is. It is the article writer interpretation of the position. The quotes do not surround anything the official said but are part of a sentence in the article where the writer gives his interpretation of the official position.
Ann Coulter would be proud of your effort. But I'm going to hold/. to a slightly better standard than that.
I agree with the article but don't see the value in bad arguments.
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I think that is a bit simplistic. It's a more complex relationship where TV sells to advertisers, the attention of a percentage of the viewing population and said population agrees to watch in a particular timeslot if the show is any good and at the same time watch the ads.
For a particular percentage of a specific demographic they will pay $X. When Buffy moves from 14-25 to 25-45 it moves from $X to $X-y. Unfortunately Sarah and her co-stars aren't interested in taking less money for their performances or they don't want to move out of the prime timeslot to a late evening one so the show is cancelled cause $x-y isn't enough to make money out of it.
if you want to watch the shows you want to watch, pay for them... the best way to pay for your shows is directly, through pay channels: HBO, Showtime, etc, etc.
Fine but there is no mechanism for me to tell the studios or stations what I want until after the fact. Then I presumably get the choice of how much am I prepared to pay to keep Buffy on air and the benefits of intermediation rapidly become apparent. I'll just watch whatever comes on and if I don't like it I'll do something else.
A programmer trying to be his own contract lawyer makes as much sense as a lawyer trying to write and support a custom contact manager or billing system for his firm
Though that might explain some of the bills I seen from Lawyers.
This post is copyright (c) 2004 by Jakub Friedl under the GNU General Public License (GPL).
This is a nonsensicval comment. The post is copyright because you wrote it and it's not a copy of any other works. That arises from copyright law not the GPL.
The GPL is the licence under which you as the copyright holder allow other people to make copies of the work.
But in any case by submitting the work to/. you subject work to the conditions applicable to posting therein. These luckily enough run along the same lines as the GPL but there may be other sites where this is not the case.
I have the wedding photos in that big brown book over there on the shelf. The kids looked at them once. My mum has one framed on her mantlepiece (I think) and I expect the grandkids will stumble across them and laugh at how funny we looked. Eventually theu will disappear. At least I don't have to shift them from medium to medium for the next 40 years.
Why anyone would be that worried about wedding photos is beyond me. And video, christ anyone who thinks they have an interesting wedding video is very sad.
And I sure as shit am not digitising and indexing the honeymoon photos for anyone to find. They are for our eyes only thank you very much.
A store could build a list of every window shopper or person who walks through the front door by reading these tags and then looking up their owners' identities in a centralized database. No such database exists today, but one could easily be built.
Now that is a really big call. Maybe true if the database is one from the store that sold the merchandise but if I'm standing in front of the store that I've never been in why would they be able to interrogate a remote database to ask who I am. For a start how will that help them and secondly why the hell would the store I did buy the stuff from let a competitor know my name let alone my buying habits.
I found at the Register. At the end of the article there is a quote from a book from a few years ago that I think is the best rebuttal of this kind of shit. For those who aren't bothered to RTFA at The Register here's the quote:
The arguments for and against accurate and accessible WHOIS information were concisely covered by Milton Mueller in his book on ICANN "Ruling the Root" back in 2002. This quote from it (p.237) should provide food for thought.
"Just how radical a shift in the balance of power the intellectual property agenda for WHOIS represents was illustrated by an amusing exchange on a public email list between Judy Henslee, the US trademark manager for Harley-Davidson motorcycles, and an intellectual property lawyer, John Berryhill. Ms. Henslee was complaining about the limitations of the current WHOIS protocol on the INTA email list, and she concluded, 'The ability to produce (or at the very least, purchase) accurate lists of all domains owned by a single person or entity would be extremely helpful to the trademark owner.'
"Mr Berryhill replied: "Dear Ms. Henslee, I was sitting on my back porch this evening, and someone drove by riding a Harley Davidson motorcycle with a defective exhaust system. My community has strictly enforced noise and smog ordnances, and this person was clearly in violation of the law. I shouted at the rider, whereupon he rode across and damaged my lawn. I would like to bring a trespass against him, but I could not identify him. However, I can identify the make, model, year and colour of the hog. I went to your Web site, and I noticed that Harley Davidson does not include a readily accessible database of warranty registrations or, indeed, any other information that will assist me to identify the violator.
"As you surely can appreciate based on your comments concerning the WHOIS database, your provision of this information would certainly help in bringing this lawbreaker to justice, as well as anyone who uses a Harley Davidson product to violate the law. As I'm sure you're aware, despite the fine reputation enjoyed by Harley, and my own admiration for your machines, there is an element of the subculture associated with your company's product which has been known to demonstrate a pattern of unlawful behaviour such as gang activity and drug transportation. Many of them may own more than one motorcycle. So, I'm sure there is considerable demand for this data.
"Since there doesn't appear to be a convenient database, is there some way that I can arrange to purchase the names, postal addresses, email addresses, and telephone and fax numbers of people who own Harley Davidson motorcycles? If I send the description to you, will you help me identify the owner?" (R)
Its a pity we don't get to read the reply but it's quite possible there was none.
Some CIA analyst knows WMD reports to GWB are sexed up and tells NPR who splash it out. NPR don't do much fact checking and may have sexed up the story even more. Refuses to name source in any case. White House knows its X. X is to be outed and smeared and GWB chairs the meeting where it was decided to go ahead. Once his name is out WH claims he's a know nothing low level analyst when in fact he is a key senior WMD analyst. After questioning by Independant Counsel and seeing his past demolished and his future destroyed he freaks and suicides.
Independant Counsel does a report for Congress on who knew what and when and who ordered what and why.
NPR buys keywords so they can ??
You get the picture. Fortunately nothing like this could ever happen in the US so go back to sleep citizens, theres nothing to worry about.
Only the names have been changed to protect the writer from defamation action.
The original post basically said that he wouldn't rely on an Indian firm to put together a whole project. He didn't specify that it was because of language or cultural differences between the US firm commissioning the software and the Indian firm producing it. I (perhaps incorrectly) took that as a comment on the ability of Indians to do the whole job efficiently or because they would never be able to understand what was required. That is as much bullshit as the idea that US programmers write user friendly apps because they understand the users culture. You don't need to be American to understand the clients wishes. It doesn't seemed to have helped lots of American programmers.
I am not Indian.
Have a really nice day
Practicing for your new position at K-Mart are you. Don't forget to smile.
Is there any parallel here between the current gutting of commodity jobs in the IT sector and the gutting of manual labour from the agricultural sector at the start of the 20th century. At the turn of the century there wqas something like 25% of the workforce doing unskilled or semi skilled work down on the farm and more in direct support roles in rural townships. So maybe 40% of the total workforce. This is down to like 3% and 5% maybe now.
The displaced workers didn't get jobs as more highly trained farm workers. They went to new industries in new towns. Better? Worse? dunno, probably worse to start with but better in the long run.
And when they lost their farm job they may not have known what they were going to do next. Heck the industries they eventually worked in didn't exist when they lost their job. Certainly true for the jobs their kids would work in.
But sure, it's hard to grasp let alone appreciate the broad intergenerational and international sweep of capital and labour through emerging and dying industries when you haven't got enough to eat and the bank is about to kick you out of your house.
Ever read the Grapes Of Wrath. Read it again now.
What happened yesterday, happened again today. And it will happen again tomorrow.
Being unable to accept the consequences of your own actions is not a valid argument for denying the opportunity of actions to others
He's not unable to accept the consequences of his actions. He is unwilling to allow the actions of others to damage his circumstances and so he will do what he can to ensure it doesn't happen. If it does happen he will complain long and hard about what happened.
Your adamant application of the choice principle founders on the fact that in nearly all cases it is impossible to cleary identify all potential outcomes and assign and weigh risk factors before making a decision. If it were then there may be some justification to complete dismissal of complaints about outcomes.
But even then being able to accept responsibility for an action does not require you to accept the consequences of an action. In the extreme if I have alternative consequences that are all unpalatable I may accept responsibility for the choice but feel no compulsion to enjoy uncomplaining, the results of the choice.
Your theory also fails because you assume people are rational. That's right up there with 'Assume a spherical cow in a perfect vacumn'
But you have to ask yourself Are the truly poor REALLY happy. Sure they might look like they haven't a care in the world. All their basic needs are taken care of and they can relax and contemplate life, educate themselves without having to worry about material matters or the constant need to 'keep up with the Jones'.
But really happy. I think not. They have arguments with their spouse. Their kids act up. They get sick and have to visit the doctor.
Oh, apparently they don't have a spouse, children or illness. Hey maybe they are happy. How do I get poor.
Would I rely on them to design the whole product, interface, integration, and human interaction? Not likely
India seems to have developed nuclear weapons and a space program without total design and management being exercised by whites so I'd say you were talking through your racist hat on this one.
I'd be more concerned if white managers outside of project management [tried] to tie it all together. Then you'd see some bad management. Perhaps you should talk to some of the US based Indian project managers in your organization about how poor they are at management. I'm sure they would put you on the right track.
They are efficient coders because of the relative cost advantage they have over US based coders. Probably related to there being 4 times as many. US didn't have a problem that needed 4 times as many coders.
being devoid of western egos
I don't remember any part of Hindu that promotes loss of ego. In any case Indians have their own impediments with caste and family ties that probably cause as much organizational difficulties as individualism does in western organizations.
Agree with the rest but then I'm not a coder so it's 'your' job not 'our' job.
but it seems like once a property is claimed / is being used, the person who comes along later and takes it away is stealing.
Granted as a definition of stealing. But you then run up against the problem of how do you get redress.
If we take the American Indians as an example, they did in fact get their 'property' stolen by expanding white settlement but much later they relied on the government through the legal system to obtain redress for the theft. Without government they would still have had their land (theirs by right of first possession) stolen but they would have had no redress against the thiefs unless they had won the war.
Without a generally accepted system of recognition and enforcement of property rights (sometimes called a government) stealing is at best a moral concept. You could make a fine moral argument to support a stewartship concept of land ownership that allowed dispossession where the holder was using the land inefficiently or against the best interests of the community, however defined.
.But enough of this theory. Last one to the moon is a rotten egg... unless they have the bigger gun.
No of course not. Property is the thing. But you 'hold' the property against all others. Without agreement with other potential holders its only yours as long as you are there holding it. Soon as your gone I'll take possession. With agreement you have a form of governance and so perhaps governance is a pre requsite of ownership.
I agree with your general comment about non obvious ingredients but not your application to this situation.
I'd have thought the warning was akin more to one on nuts that says "Ingesting these nuts through your nose while driving may be hazardous". I mean they know its an iron and that irons are hot, that's their point. Be different if they grabbed a box at Walmart labled "Clothes Flattening Device" and they had never used an iron before.
You may "hold" territory on the moon but until it becomes subject to some legal system (the Moonish government maybe or even an Earth nation state or international treaty) that recognizes your title to the land based presumably on settlement you don't "own" anything.
And when that does happen you will be subject to it whether you signed up for it or not.
I brought a new Iron the other day and in capital letters in the instruction book I was told to never iron clothes while I am wearing them and that while I could use the shot of steam while the iron was in an upright position I should not forget the previous instruction about not ironing the clothes I'm wearing.
I think perhaps the kind of people who would do that do not or cannot read the instruction book anyway but until you realize that you can feel a little unempowered.
You Americans are so lucky. The Universal Service Obligation in force in Australia mandates 2400baud (2.4kbits/sec) as the min data rate. And I wrote that twice in different ways so you don't think I can't read geek numbers. It's not a joke.
And Telstra are happy to remind you of this if you should ever dare to question them.
There was an enquiry about whether it should be raised to basic rate ISDN 64k but the enquiry decided that Telstra would have ISDN available to just about everyone eventually so why mandate it. Just let market forces provide it in due course. Of course You have to pay for time connected (to Telstra) for the ISDN line and Data downloaded (to your ISP) so its little wonder it didn't become successful. Recently they have really pushed ISDN as an ADSL alternative and as a sop on the pricing they provide no charge connection and call time to an ISP for AUD$16.50 per month. You still pay ISP charges.
But Telstra now uses availability of ISDN as an excuse for not extending ADSL coverage to new housing which is generally serviced by fibre through RIMs. Every new network extension in Australia in the last ten years has been a fibre line through a RIM using pair-gain technology (probably with line conditioning given the length of some of the fibre runs). How unADSL friendly can it get.
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A Future Charges Planning exec at a station near you.
There are pros and cons to the use of any methodology and it is open to anyone to make a recommendation based on whatever factors they wants as to which is appropriate in a given context.
IT users should after all be smart enough to be able to work out if the recommendation is a good one. Lots of bad ones are ignored. Hell, lots of good ones are ignored.
This is a far cry from torpedoing open-source
Sure, by itself it won't and there will be no one thing that does. You think all those strategists for Business Software Alliance, CompTIA etc. are sitting round trying to think of ONE BIG IDEA to sink open source.
But it is one straw and to ensure one straw dosen't finally do it each straw should be thrown away as soon as possible.
That is not what the official position of the organization is. It is the article writer interpretation of the position. The quotes do not surround anything the official said but are part of a sentence in the article where the writer gives his interpretation of the official position.
Ann Coulter would be proud of your effort. But I'm going to hold /. to a slightly better standard than that.
I agree with the article but don't see the value in bad arguments.
I think that is a bit simplistic. It's a more complex relationship where TV sells to advertisers, the attention of a percentage of the viewing population and said population agrees to watch in a particular timeslot if the show is any good and at the same time watch the ads.
For a particular percentage of a specific demographic they will pay $X. When Buffy moves from 14-25 to 25-45 it moves from $X to $X-y. Unfortunately Sarah and her co-stars aren't interested in taking less money for their performances or they don't want to move out of the prime timeslot to a late evening one so the show is cancelled cause $x-y isn't enough to make money out of it.
if you want to watch the shows you want to watch, pay for them ... the best way to pay for your shows is directly, through pay channels: HBO, Showtime, etc, etc.
Fine but there is no mechanism for me to tell the studios or stations what I want until after the fact. Then I presumably get the choice of how much am I prepared to pay to keep Buffy on air and the benefits of intermediation rapidly become apparent. I'll just watch whatever comes on and if I don't like it I'll do something else.
on 64s and probably still does. Talk about bad for your eyes. It's a wonder we of a certain age can see at all.
Though that might explain some of the bills I seen from Lawyers.
This is a nonsensicval comment. The post is copyright because you wrote it and it's not a copy of any other works. That arises from copyright law not the GPL.
The GPL is the licence under which you as the copyright holder allow other people to make copies of the work.
But in any case by submitting the work to /. you subject work to the conditions applicable to posting therein. These luckily enough run along the same lines as the GPL but there may be other sites where this is not the case.
Why anyone would be that worried about wedding photos is beyond me. And video, christ anyone who thinks they have an interesting wedding video is very sad.
And I sure as shit am not digitising and indexing the honeymoon photos for anyone to find. They are for our eyes only thank you very much.
Now that is a really big call. Maybe true if the database is one from the store that sold the merchandise but if I'm standing in front of the store that I've never been in why would they be able to interrogate a remote database to ask who I am. For a start how will that help them and secondly why the hell would the store I did buy the stuff from let a competitor know my name let alone my buying habits.
Its a pity we don't get to read the reply but it's quite possible there was none.
The US GDP for 2003 was roughly $10,479Billion. Of this the entire software industry was $181Billion (2%) Imports in total were $1,200Billion
It seems there's still lots of people doing things for a living. Ask one if they need help.
People seems to forget that for most countries Domestic trade has always been and probably will continue to be the main focus of economic activity.
Independant Counsel does a report for Congress on who knew what and when and who ordered what and why.
NPR buys keywords so they can ??
You get the picture. Fortunately nothing like this could ever happen in the US so go back to sleep citizens, theres nothing to worry about.
Only the names have been changed to protect the writer from defamation action.
I am not Indian.
Have a really nice day
Practicing for your new position at K-Mart are you. Don't forget to smile.
The displaced workers didn't get jobs as more highly trained farm workers. They went to new industries in new towns. Better? Worse? dunno, probably worse to start with but better in the long run.
And when they lost their farm job they may not have known what they were going to do next. Heck the industries they eventually worked in didn't exist when they lost their job. Certainly true for the jobs their kids would work in.
But sure, it's hard to grasp let alone appreciate the broad intergenerational and international sweep of capital and labour through emerging and dying industries when you haven't got enough to eat and the bank is about to kick you out of your house.
Ever read the Grapes Of Wrath. Read it again now.
What happened yesterday, happened again today. And it will happen again tomorrow.
He's not unable to accept the consequences of his actions. He is unwilling to allow the actions of others to damage his circumstances and so he will do what he can to ensure it doesn't happen. If it does happen he will complain long and hard about what happened.
Your adamant application of the choice principle founders on the fact that in nearly all cases it is impossible to cleary identify all potential outcomes and assign and weigh risk factors before making a decision. If it were then there may be some justification to complete dismissal of complaints about outcomes.
But even then being able to accept responsibility for an action does not require you to accept the consequences of an action. In the extreme if I have alternative consequences that are all unpalatable I may accept responsibility for the choice but feel no compulsion to enjoy uncomplaining, the results of the choice.
Your theory also fails because you assume people are rational. That's right up there with 'Assume a spherical cow in a perfect vacumn'
But really happy. I think not. They have arguments with their spouse. Their kids act up. They get sick and have to visit the doctor.
Oh, apparently they don't have a spouse, children or illness. Hey maybe they are happy. How do I get poor.
India seems to have developed nuclear weapons and a space program without total design and management being exercised by whites so I'd say you were talking through your racist hat on this one.
I'd be more concerned if white managers outside of project management [tried] to tie it all together. Then you'd see some bad management. Perhaps you should talk to some of the US based Indian project managers in your organization about how poor they are at management. I'm sure they would put you on the right track.
They are efficient coders because of the relative cost advantage they have over US based coders. Probably related to there being 4 times as many. US didn't have a problem that needed 4 times as many coders.
being devoid of western egos
I don't remember any part of Hindu that promotes loss of ego. In any case Indians have their own impediments with caste and family ties that probably cause as much organizational difficulties as individualism does in western organizations.
Agree with the rest but then I'm not a coder so it's 'your' job not 'our' job.
Granted as a definition of stealing. But you then run up against the problem of how do you get redress.
If we take the American Indians as an example, they did in fact get their 'property' stolen by expanding white settlement but much later they relied on the government through the legal system to obtain redress for the theft. Without government they would still have had their land (theirs by right of first possession) stolen but they would have had no redress against the thiefs unless they had won the war.
Without a generally accepted system of recognition and enforcement of property rights (sometimes called a government) stealing is at best a moral concept. You could make a fine moral argument to support a stewartship concept of land ownership that allowed dispossession where the holder was using the land inefficiently or against the best interests of the community, however defined.
.But enough of this theory. Last one to the moon is a rotten egg ... unless they have the bigger gun.
No of course not. Property is the thing. But you 'hold' the property against all others. Without agreement with other potential holders its only yours as long as you are there holding it. Soon as your gone I'll take possession. With agreement you have a form of governance and so perhaps governance is a pre requsite of ownership.
I'd have thought the warning was akin more to one on nuts that says "Ingesting these nuts through your nose while driving may be hazardous". I mean they know its an iron and that irons are hot, that's their point. Be different if they grabbed a box at Walmart labled "Clothes Flattening Device" and they had never used an iron before.
And when that does happen you will be subject to it whether you signed up for it or not.
I think perhaps the kind of people who would do that do not or cannot read the instruction book anyway but until you realize that you can feel a little unempowered.
The last time someone told me I needed the latest virus patch I got into a shit load of trouble.
And they were from Microsoft.
You think I'm going to believe you. I hit that link and my soul belongs to some Romanian gangster.
I'm not that stupid.
You Americans are so lucky. The Universal Service Obligation in force in Australia mandates 2400baud (2.4kbits/sec) as the min data rate. And I wrote that twice in different ways so you don't think I can't read geek numbers. It's not a joke.
And Telstra are happy to remind you of this if you should ever dare to question them.
There was an enquiry about whether it should be raised to basic rate ISDN 64k but the enquiry decided that Telstra would have ISDN available to just about everyone eventually so why mandate it. Just let market forces provide it in due course. Of course You have to pay for time connected (to Telstra) for the ISDN line and Data downloaded (to your ISP) so its little wonder it didn't become successful. Recently they have really pushed ISDN as an ADSL alternative and as a sop on the pricing they provide no charge connection and call time to an ISP for AUD$16.50 per month. You still pay ISP charges.
But Telstra now uses availability of ISDN as an excuse for not extending ADSL coverage to new housing which is generally serviced by fibre through RIMs. Every new network extension in Australia in the last ten years has been a fibre line through a RIM using pair-gain technology (probably with line conditioning given the length of some of the fibre runs). How unADSL friendly can it get.
T1. Hah bloody hah.