I would take the time to build a case from your reply and tear down your evidence.
But I think you can see the case yourself.
Basically you have supplied a test, given to an unspecified demographic, under unspecified teaching conditions, in an unspecified community. There are so many wide open variables, that unless you tie some down I can't give that any more validity than me claiming Einstein's Theory of Relativitiy was standard early 20th century journalism.
You managed to answer the question without proving your point. Tell me, is it a public school that had this?
How long had this public school been in existance?
Was this test of regular difficulty for 8th grade final exams in that era?
Did the students pass it more often than 50% of the time?
How large was the community serviced by this public school?
Answer those and I might believe the test, then again the teacher might have taught specifically for that test, explaining the questions that seem a bit contrieved for 14 year olds. That would negate your point entirely.
See, changing the definition mid argument doesn't win you any points. I meant exactly what I said, not what you said. There is no way to improve your goverment if you only pay attention to your own.
Watch your average sales clerk when for some reason they are unable to use a calculator or cash register.
In defense of sales clerks, when I worked in high school I often went into this brain dead state where I couldn't do anything except push buttons and give change. It makes the mind numbing job go faster.
When I was in this state, I had severe difficulty doing arithmatic. Normally I'm extremely quick with numbers.
since it was all free? I mean, the government paid for it, but it was free! And all the doctors were women! It was like a democrat's wet dream. But then the Berlin wall came down, and the USSR collapsed in on itself... and we learned the truth. They had third-world style hospitals and most people never got the care they needed. But obviously that was something that was specific to the USSR, and the same thing would never happen here, right? So let's just suck up the money from the people that work for a living, and give it a try! After all, the only thing we have to lose is our lives!
What? I support healthcare for all. I also support privatized healthcare. I also work in the healthcare industry, and realize the current insurance cartels are a major scam. It doesn't really matter anyway, since I didn't talk about healthcare in my reply.
How about taxes? Since YOU said you like to go back 500 years for reference, maybe you'd like to know that the Founding Fathers specifically stated that Congress "no tax shall be laid unless in proportion to the census". Oh, and about the 16th amendment? Before the Democrats passed it in 1913, the Supreme Court found it Unconstitutional. Imagine that. So, Federal Income Tax is Unconstitutional [britannica.com]. While we raise the federal income tax, we should also probably raise the state income tax... just in case there isn't enough money being drained out of "working families" pockets.
I must ask, what about my reply led you to think I wasn't a "so called" (at least by todays standards) confederate.
Education? Well, let's consider. Here's a test that was actually given to 8th graders in 1895. Can you pass it now? Can you get over 50%? Maybe our current education system isn't working then. Maybe it's time to hold children accountable for what they know, and what they don't know. If they can't pass a test, they don't pass the grade. Period. I don't see what's so hard about that. If more than 50% of the class doesn't pass a test, then fire the teacher. No more teacher's unions and whining about money. There are PLENTY of people out there looking for jobs as teachers that would be more than happy to show you how much children can learn.
I could easily pass the parts that are held important today. Several of the questions refrenced specific knowledge that isn't important today. Unfortunatly you seem to not realize our current education system is institutionalized day care. Once you do, it will all make sense.
I'm not saying thats the way it should be, I'm saying thats the way it is.
Environment? The earth, according to all kinds of scientists, is over 10,000,000,000 years old. Do you REALLY think that us driving SUV's is going to kill the environment? The earth has survived earthquakes, tornados, hurricanes, meteor showers, explosions, fires, radiation from the sun, UV rays, etc. Do you really think using 0.0005% more gasoline to get from point A to point B is REALLY going to make Mother Nature shiver in her boots?
No I don't think all life will be extinguished by SUV's. I do however feel there will be negative enviromental consequences, and recognize there will be definite economic consequences.
I also understand that sometime in the next 100 years the middle east will start to dry up. At which time we will make the switch for pure economic reasons. This is why I don't worry about it too much.
So you're still looking at the early half of the 20th century to base your political opinions? Maybe it's time to jump into this century.
Um, are you saying you don't look so far back as the last 100 years to form opinions? I would consider it fundamental to at least have basic knowledge of the last 500 years of political history...
Utter nonsense. As another poster said, SCO can complain about and even spread FUD about the GPL all it likes - that's freedom of speech there, buddy - and it's still protected by the freedoms it grants.
Yes, but it's a precious small step away from slander, if they never intend to take it to court.
A thief sells me a stollen VCR in a clean electronics store. I have no possible reason to suspect it is stolen. It has a serial number w/o a single scratch mark on it.
Slashdot Mirror
You've apparently never upgraded to the "new" Windows "platform".
1/2 because our taxes are lower
Are you sure about that?
1/2 because expensive educations are better and they pay back in productivity.
Bullshit.
So can you tell what button widget has the focus?
I sure as hell can't.
I have a TiBook on the desk next to me.
Try to talk about the issues, not the person.
I totally agree.
I love osx.
I wish they would make it keyboard navigatable. That little tidbit would make it a perfect interface.
This post could trigger a train of events, leading to NUCULEAR(sic) WAR, and the EXTERMINATION OF THE HUMAN RACE.
Then again, it probably won't.
I would take the time to build a case from your reply and tear down your evidence.
But I think you can see the case yourself.
Basically you have supplied a test, given to an unspecified demographic, under unspecified teaching conditions, in an unspecified community. There are so many wide open variables, that unless you tie some down I can't give that any more validity than me claiming Einstein's Theory of Relativitiy was standard early 20th century journalism.
How arrogant can you get?
Jesus...
It's kinda wet...
The full brief is online.
They have an extremely solid case. Even if those patents don't pass, a few thousand other infringment casses are possible.
I wouldn't worry about it.
You managed to answer the question without proving your point. Tell me, is it a public school that had this?
How long had this public school been in existance?
Was this test of regular difficulty for 8th grade final exams in that era?
Did the students pass it more often than 50% of the time?
How large was the community serviced by this public school?
Answer those and I might believe the test, then again the teacher might have taught specifically for that test, explaining the questions that seem a bit contrieved for 14 year olds. That would negate your point entirely.
See, changing the definition mid argument doesn't win you any points. I meant exactly what I said, not what you said. There is no way to improve your goverment if you only pay attention to your own.
So that means we shouldn't look for new transportation or fuel now I assume?
Watch your average sales clerk when for some reason they are unable to use a calculator or cash register.
In defense of sales clerks, when I worked in high school I often went into this brain dead state where I couldn't do anything except push buttons and give change. It makes the mind numbing job go faster.
When I was in this state, I had severe difficulty doing arithmatic. Normally I'm extremely quick with numbers.
Since public schools were just forming around 1895, I'm assuming that came from an elite college prep school..
If I had the time or will, I bet I could find a college prep test with similar questions.
since it was all free? I mean, the government paid for it, but it was free! And all the doctors were women! It was like a democrat's wet dream. But then the Berlin wall came down, and the USSR collapsed in on itself... and we learned the truth. They had third-world style hospitals and most people never got the care they needed. But obviously that was something that was specific to the USSR, and the same thing would never happen here, right? So let's just suck up the money from the people that work for a living, and give it a try! After all, the only thing we have to lose is our lives!
What? I support healthcare for all. I also support privatized healthcare. I also work in the healthcare industry, and realize the current insurance cartels are a major scam. It doesn't really matter anyway, since I didn't talk about healthcare in my reply.
How about taxes? Since YOU said you like to go back 500 years for reference, maybe you'd like to know that the Founding Fathers specifically stated that Congress "no tax shall be laid unless in proportion to the census". Oh, and about the 16th amendment? Before the Democrats passed it in 1913, the Supreme Court found it Unconstitutional. Imagine that. So, Federal Income Tax is Unconstitutional [britannica.com]. While we raise the federal income tax, we should also probably raise the state income tax... just in case there isn't enough money being drained out of "working families" pockets.
I must ask, what about my reply led you to think I wasn't a "so called" (at least by todays standards) confederate.
Education? Well, let's consider. Here's a test that was actually given to 8th graders in 1895. Can you pass it now? Can you get over 50%? Maybe our current education system isn't working then. Maybe it's time to hold children accountable for what they know, and what they don't know. If they can't pass a test, they don't pass the grade. Period. I don't see what's so hard about that. If more than 50% of the class doesn't pass a test, then fire the teacher. No more teacher's unions and whining about money. There are PLENTY of people out there looking for jobs as teachers that would be more than happy to show you how much children can learn.
I could easily pass the parts that are held important today. Several of the questions refrenced specific knowledge that isn't important today. Unfortunatly you seem to not realize our current education system is institutionalized day care. Once you do, it will all make sense.
I'm not saying thats the way it should be, I'm saying thats the way it is.
Environment? The earth, according to all kinds of scientists, is over 10,000,000,000 years old. Do you REALLY think that us driving SUV's is going to kill the environment? The earth has survived earthquakes, tornados, hurricanes, meteor showers, explosions, fires, radiation from the sun, UV rays, etc. Do you really think using 0.0005% more gasoline to get from point A to point B is REALLY going to make Mother Nature shiver in her boots?
No I don't think all life will be extinguished by SUV's. I do however feel there will be negative enviromental consequences, and recognize there will be definite economic consequences.
I also understand that sometime in the next 100 years the middle east will start to dry up. At which time we will make the switch for pure economic reasons. This is why I don't worry about it too much.
Any other questions?
No, and I didn't ask those to start with.
Well you'd know that the US didn't exist 500 years ago, right?
Oh I'm sorry, I forgot the only place that had political history was the US...
The rest of the world are heathens without gorverment..
Seriously, wtf?
So you're still looking at the early half of the 20th century to base your political opinions? Maybe it's time to jump into this century.
Um, are you saying you don't look so far back as the last 100 years to form opinions? I would consider it fundamental to at least have basic knowledge of the last 500 years of political history...
No wonder we elect such shitty leaders.
Wow, you mean people can't be clumped into two political groups when dealing with thousands of independent issues?
Who would have thought...
It is a circus!
I'm assuming the origional poster and all the mods who modded this up have a MBA from a well known university?
Utter nonsense. As another poster said, SCO can complain about and even spread FUD about the GPL all it likes - that's freedom of speech there, buddy - and it's still protected by the freedoms it grants.
Yes, but it's a precious small step away from slander, if they never intend to take it to court.
It is clearly defamation of character.
Finding Nemo was an example of a great film.
The Hulk wasn't.
What could the moral of this story possibly be? I can't figure it out.
A thief sells me a stollen VCR in a clean electronics store. I have no possible reason to suspect it is stolen. It has a serial number w/o a single scratch mark on it.
I have no obligation to return it.
Wow, I take it you are close friends with some homeless people, and they shared these facts with you?
If not, those are some crazy steriotypes.
If a bank robber buys some groceries from me with stolen money, I have no obligation to refund the bank.