Red Hat isn't the only company that is taking this approach. You can read here (albeit not much) about Dell's approach to the same thing.
It's a shotgun approach to R&D without the overhead. It gets your foot in the door before the company gains enought momentum to be attractive to competitors.
The market won't really care about something like this unless it pays off big, or the business is already operating in the red and doesn't target their investments. Then, it is like saying, "We don't know what to do! Somebody invent something! We're taking out a second mortgage for this! Hurry!"
Did anyone catch this quote from the Wired article?
"The advantage to making data public is that people can find your mistakes as quickly as possible," Scherer said. "By holding onto it privately no one knows and those mistakes would be propagated forward."
It seems that the principle advantage of open source software is a principle of open source information as well.
The click-through license is still a problem. The license clearly states:
a. Provided that you comply with all terms and conditions of this Agreement, including without limitation subsections (b)-(d) below, Microsoft grants to you the following non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free, non-transferable, non-sublicenseable license, under any copyrights or trade secrets owned or licensable by Microsoft without payment of consideration to unaffiliated third parties, to reproduce and use a reasonable number of copies of the Specification in its entirety
for the sole purpose of reviewing the Specification for security analysis. By way of clarification of the foregoing, the Specification is provided to you solely for your informational purposes (for review as specified above) and, pursuant to this Agreement, Microsoft does not grant you any right to implement this Specification.
Anyone recall the episode when Bender went to the Robot planet and the rest of the crew followed, and were tried by a robot judge? The progress bar labelled "Judging..." hit about 50% and the judge crashed.
The problem (one among many -- this app is built with Motif, for crissakes, the help engine (wxhelp) appears to be dynamically linked, and segfaults with lesstif, AND it doesn't work with an AWE32/64 worth a flip, and that RPM -- it's a tarball and a post-install script that installs the tarball, so you can't remove it with RPM which is just stoopid -- honestly, I see no improvement on my end from the older versions. OK, so I've got an AWE64. It's got great MIDI capabilities but this doesn't cut it.)
Where was I?? Oh! The problem is in the/usr/local/jazz/jazz.cfg file. Search for ALSA and you'll find a part which specified which driver to use. It's set to "2", which is the ALSA driver, change it to "1" to get it to work with OSS or OSS/Free.
Now that this is open source, maybe someone could port this to Gtk instead of the wxWindows/Motif beast and build in some support for the AWE.
I may give it a shot myself after I play around with Gtk a little bit.
Microsoft has been pushing their Internet Keyboard and Internet Keyboard Pro for coming up on a year now. They've got 10 and 17 "hot keys" respectively that are activated through driver software -- without it, the buttons are dead.
Microsoft has also been co-branding these with OEMs such as Dell for some time now. This is just more of the same.
If Apple was happy with its market share, it would market only to existing Mac users, but that's beside my point. The "Perfect OS" won't be enough, and I fear that we'll be standing graveside one day, sniffing about how the market killed a superior product once again.
Personally, I'd like to see Apple gain market share and influence so that Good Things like this are more widespread. But, their single-supplier strategy puts them at a disadvantage against the commodity-hardware world of Windows and Linux.
YES! I replied to this thread only for that reason! I tried to figure out why the Masters of Slashdot used a Disney logo, and it took about a solid minute of staring at it before I saw the "C". It's eerie.
I would suspect so. RH 6.2 is available in beta, so I doubt they'll put XFree86 4.0 into 6.2 My uneducated guess is that the 7.0 release will contain kernel 2.4 and XFree86 4.0.
Fuel cells don't have to run off hydrogen and oxygen. All you really need is a combustible substance and an efficient catalyst system. The methanol cells that depend on a human liver enzyme that were recently annouced (at least in principle, there is prototype) are pointing in the right direction.
Early DVD decoder cards for PCs were pretty much wide-open. You could change your region code at will. Now, more and more decoder cards have a little EPROM (or somesuch) that counts the number of region changes, and if it's changed around too much, it will stop allowing you to change the region code and you'll be stuck.
Some cards will set the region code based on the first DVD you play (more "user-friendly" that way), and if you happen to have a multi-region DVD, you're stuck thinking the damned thing doesn't work.
Decoder card manufacturers naturally don't like to advertise this, nor are DVD manufacturers hot to talk about zoning, because most people keep the player in one region and won't use DVDs from other regions.
The media types will one day discover that you can't increase profits by throwing roadblocks in front of your customers.
There was another robot-like vacuum cleaner mentioned earlier. This is more general-purpose, but what's really needed is a use for the beasts that will drive design. We're still in the phase where personal robots are being designed because they're interesting, but there's no real use for them yet. (At least none that the average consumer will see.)
This happened to PCs, it will happen to PRs as well.
They're accepting letters of interest, but you still have to meet their qualifications first. So, unless you've got scads of cash and years of trading experience, you'll still be rejected.
Exactly. If you're going to insist that people come in your front door, you set up a mechanism to force them to do so. Now when it comes to including other folks' content inline, that's a little different from having a link to that content.
Read the IPO announcement -- Thomas Weisel Partners LLC and E*TRADE Securities, Inc. are also underwriting it. So stop the anonymous whining, and go hang out at www.etrade.com, open an account, and wait for the IPO to show up. Then they'll let you know if you're qualified to participate. Last I heard, they don't check which way you voted.
It would be nice if Red Hat would have had a non-tradional IPO, the way some companies have. But, getting in on the ground floor means getting in early, not necessarily during the IPO. If it behaves like other IPOs, it will start low, run way overpriced, then come right back down.
If the company's stock is going to perform over time, it doesn't matter if you get in during the IPO or not. But, if you're wanting huge short-term speculative returns in the first few days -- then you'll need enough $$ to qualify for the IPO.
If you've only got a couple bucks to throw around -- wait for the price to stabilize.
I'm sorry, but that's a load of crap. They said *trademark* infringement. Expect it to be someone to be selling a computer-related product with the term "Red Hat" or "Redhat", os somesuch.
Remember that things contract when they're cold, and since boards are made of a variety of materials, you'll have a problem with warping and subsequent mechanical/electrical failures.
There are silicones and polymeric fluorocarbons that would meet that requirement, but they're not readily available. Regardless, condensation is going to be a big problem, as water will eventually become entrained in the cooling liquid causing corrosion, if nothing else. Besides, that mineral oil is NOT anhydrous to begin with.
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It's a shotgun approach to R&D without the overhead. It gets your foot in the door before the company gains enought momentum to be attractive to competitors.
The market won't really care about something like this unless it pays off big, or the business is already operating in the red and doesn't target their investments. Then, it is like saying, "We don't know what to do! Somebody invent something! We're taking out a second mortgage for this! Hurry!"
It seems that the principle advantage of open source software is a principle of open source information as well.
So you can look, but you can't implement.
The article can also be found here (page down), and there's quite a bit of related information there as well.
The site references this, but provides no link. You can visit it here. Quite a bit of information can be found there. Pictures, articles, etc.
Anyone recall the episode when Bender went to the Robot planet and the rest of the crew followed, and were tried by a robot judge? The progress bar labelled "Judging..." hit about 50% and the judge crashed.
"Reboot it!" "No, jiggle the cable!"
I'm waiting for the desktop theme.
Ladies, gentlemen, and guests of CowboyNeal:
$7,000 per day??? No damn way. Ain't nothin' on two legs worth $7,000 a day.
$70, we'll talk. But $7,000? I need a dual P-III all-SCSI system with a big ol' flatscreen first.
The problem (one among many -- this app is built with Motif, for crissakes, the help engine (wxhelp) appears to be dynamically linked, and segfaults with lesstif, AND it doesn't work with an AWE32/64 worth a flip, and that RPM -- it's a tarball and a post-install script that installs the tarball, so you can't remove it with RPM which is just stoopid -- honestly, I see no improvement on my end from the older versions. OK, so I've got an AWE64. It's got great MIDI capabilities but this doesn't cut it.)
/usr/local/jazz/jazz.cfg file. Search for ALSA and you'll find a part which specified which driver to use. It's set to "2", which is the ALSA driver, change it to "1" to get it to work with OSS or OSS/Free.
Where was I?? Oh! The problem is in the
Now that this is open source, maybe someone could port this to Gtk instead of the wxWindows/Motif beast and build in some support for the AWE.
I may give it a shot myself after I play around with Gtk a little bit.
Microsoft has also been co-branding these with OEMs such as Dell for some time now. This is just more of the same.
If Apple was happy with its market share, it would market only to existing Mac users, but that's beside my point. The "Perfect OS" won't be enough, and I fear that we'll be standing graveside one day, sniffing about how the market killed a superior product once again.
Personally, I'd like to see Apple gain market share and influence so that Good Things like this are more widespread. But, their single-supplier strategy puts them at a disadvantage against the commodity-hardware world of Windows and Linux.
YES! I replied to this thread only for that reason! I tried to figure out why the Masters of Slashdot used a Disney logo, and it took about a solid minute of staring at it before I saw the "C". It's eerie.
Perhaps, but a perfect OS that works its perfection on hardware available from a single supplier has the odds stacked against it from the start.
I would suspect so. RH 6.2 is available in beta, so I doubt they'll put XFree86 4.0 into 6.2 My uneducated guess is that the 7.0 release will contain kernel 2.4 and XFree86 4.0.
Fuel cells don't have to run off hydrogen and oxygen. All you really need is a combustible substance and an efficient catalyst system. The methanol cells that depend on a human liver enzyme that were recently annouced (at least in principle, there is prototype) are pointing in the right direction.
Early DVD decoder cards for PCs were pretty much wide-open. You could change your region code at will. Now, more and more decoder cards have a little EPROM (or somesuch) that counts the number of region changes, and if it's changed around too much, it will stop allowing you to change the region code and you'll be stuck.
Some cards will set the region code based on the first DVD you play (more "user-friendly" that way), and if you happen to have a multi-region DVD, you're stuck thinking the damned thing doesn't work.
Decoder card manufacturers naturally don't like to advertise this, nor are DVD manufacturers hot to talk about zoning, because most people keep the player in one region and won't use DVDs from other regions.
The media types will one day discover that you can't increase profits by throwing roadblocks in front of your customers.
There was another robot-like vacuum cleaner mentioned earlier. This is more general-purpose, but what's really needed is a use for the beasts that will drive design. We're still in the phase where personal robots are being designed because they're interesting, but there's no real use for them yet. (At least none that the average consumer will see.)
This happened to PCs, it will happen to PRs as well.
They're accepting letters of interest, but you still have to meet their qualifications first. So, unless you've got scads of cash and years of trading experience, you'll still be rejected.
Exactly. If you're going to insist that people come in your front door, you set up a mechanism to force them to do so. Now when it comes to including other folks' content inline, that's a little different from having a link to that content.
Read the IPO announcement -- Thomas Weisel Partners LLC and E*TRADE Securities, Inc. are also underwriting it. So stop the anonymous whining, and go hang out at www.etrade.com, open an account, and wait for the IPO to show up. Then they'll let you know if you're qualified to participate. Last I heard, they don't check which way you voted.
It would be nice if Red Hat would have had a non-tradional IPO, the way some companies have. But, getting in on the ground floor means getting in early, not necessarily during the IPO. If it behaves like other IPOs, it will start low, run way overpriced, then come right back down.
If the company's stock is going to perform over time, it doesn't matter if you get in during the IPO or not. But, if you're wanting huge short-term speculative returns in the first few days -- then you'll need enough $$ to qualify for the IPO.
If you've only got a couple bucks to throw around -- wait for the price to stabilize.
-W-
I'm sorry, but that's a load of crap. They said *trademark* infringement. Expect it to be someone to be selling a computer-related product with the term "Red Hat" or "Redhat", os somesuch.
Where did you get this RH suing VA BS?
-W-
Remember that things contract when they're cold, and since boards are made of a variety of materials, you'll have a problem with warping and subsequent mechanical/electrical failures.
There are silicones and polymeric fluorocarbons that would meet that requirement, but they're not readily available. Regardless, condensation is going to be a big problem, as water will eventually become entrained in the cooling liquid causing corrosion, if nothing else. Besides, that mineral oil is NOT anhydrous to begin with.
And you don't e-mail your SENATORS, you contact your REPRESENTATIVE. This is a House Bill, not a Senate bill.
sheesh.