Dude -- i'm uncertain about a lot of things that'll happen in the future... Will the earth implode, or be taken over by little green men? Will I get fired this afternoon if/when my boss finds out he's paying me to troll slashdot? I just don't know...
A ruler isn't going to increase certainty of these events which I can't forsee.
Re:Review is confusing
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· Score: 4, Funny
The reviewer allready answered this. Look in the table that precedes the review...
"summary: Big honking monoliths beam in from the future."
Er... This doesn't sound right...
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The Chronoliths
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· Score: 4, Insightful
"t's dated twenty years in the future..."
Okay, i'm with you so far...
"and each lauds another victory by a leader who does not currently exist."
So, teenagers are winning the wars fought in the future? I knew the dexterity I had built up with a gamepad would come in handy some day... My giant robot remote controlled robot can beat yours anyday!
Mr. Black does not have a business. He has a business idea. Even if he did have content up on his website (I'm under the premise he did not -- or only had a splash page, which didn't service his intended business idea), he had no operation in which his business was generating revenue.
Even if the above is false information, he had not registered his business' trademark which utilized or consisted of the word "canadian".
Now, how is that not cyber squatting (by text book definition)?
He could have had all the intent in the world, but under the terms of the.biz tld he does not have a claim to keep his domain.
Number of Trademarks held by Molson Canada that utilize the word "Canadian" alone or in part of a phrase: >= 1
Number of Trademarks held by Mr. Black that utilize the word "Canadian" alone or in part of a phrase: 0
The fact that trademark in question deals with beer and not pencils is null.
Since 1 > 0, said company, Molson has some sort of a claim, don't you think? The fact that they enforced their claim, before say -- the CPMA (Canadian Pencil Makers Association) Someone who doesn't own a trademark on a word/phrase and purchases the domain with no shown intent (he didn't even have content up!) for registering that name/trademark means they are a cyber squater.
Therefore it's entirely legit for somebody to publish a business directory called "Canadian"....
... and register the trademark of the CANADIAN business directory. If Mr. Black had done that before registering his domain, Molson would've had a harder time taking it away. He didn't, and as it turns out it was quite easy for Molson to strip him bare. it's his fault!
Dude, thanks! It seems that you're the only one that actually read what I posted.
It seems that in order to successfully defend an oppinion on this site, one must reiterate their point over and over to each and every person that replies to them.
The flag manufaturing industry (er...), isn't controlled by a single governing body. I could start making flags. I can't go making domains, that's ICANN's and it's accredited (or non accredited) registrars job. Since domains are controlled by a single source, the rules for the.tld are as follows. Registered businesses only, and dibs go to the trademark holder.
However, the store I own which is throwing the "sale of the century" cannot have a right to claim century.biz as their domain.... Why? Because that is Chrysler's (sp?) registered trademark.
Trademarks are only valid in the appropriate context.
That's my exact point! The.biz tld is for trademarks and registered business names. Which is why Chrysler gets century.biz and Molson get's canadian.biz.
Does anyone else understand what I'm saying? This is probably the most simple concept in the world.
But I believe that is why the.biz top level domain was created, to give holder or trademarked words first dibs on the domain!
.biz is strictly for trade mark holders to get the slogan they own in the domain, he should have used.ca, or registered his own trademark -- one that wasn't taken!
Thanks for someone modding me down without refuting my points. i love this community(tm).
Either way, they do own the trademarks on that single word. There is no other business which has the single word 'canadian' trademarked. doesn't anyone else understand what I mean? sure, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation owns the trademarks to CBC, and the phrase "Canadian Broadcasting Corporation", so they would be more than entitled to take cbc.biz or canadianbroadcastingcorporation.biz, but *NOT* canadian.biz, that word is trademarked and copyrighted by Molson Canada!
The.biz tld was meant for businesses to be able to get domains for their Registered(R) Trademarks(TM), wasn't it?
Molson corporation makes the 2nd most popular beer in canada which is called 'Canadian', don't they?
Mr. Black had "thought" of starting a business that was basically a glorrified yellow pages, right?
His corralation to why he thinks his business idea (nothing registered, started, or operating as of the ICANN decision) deserves the domain canadian.biz is that the country he lives in just happens to be Canada.
Yeah, I think cyber squatting is completely shitty -- but this d00d didn't even have a functioning business, or even content on his website. Molson owns the freakin' copyright, and registered trademark on the word for christ sakes! It a top level domain that's geared towards owners of copyrighted trademarks, so this is one case where I gotta be reasonable and say Mr. Black -- you don't have a case.
:s/Linux/Linus 10th word, 3rd paragraph. k thx bye.
and if you're thinking of flaming me for that and my other (many i'm sure) grammar, spelling, whatever errors, then that's the attitude i'm talking about.
Saying A Linux User Goes Back" means that the starting point of linux was a desire to switch away from MS.
I'm no history buff but I don't believe that Linux started devloping his kernel because he hated MS.
Statements the compare and contrast MS and alternatives, open sourced or not, GPL'ed or not, makes the d00d who wrote the essay feel the way he does regarding users of those alternative OS's.
We are our own worst enemy.
Those most poingt (sp?) part of the his story was summarized in this quote:
"Can you believe that? It's just a computer operating system, but somehow they think that it makes them better than those people who run systems such as Microsoft Windows! Elitism drives people away, as does saying "RTFM" or belittling people who choose a different distro from yourself."
Even the way taco Stated definitevly, almost as if it were an obligatory trade off for allowing it on the front page: "Some of his ponts are wrong". I'm sorry but it's that attitude which makes us all look like kids. there's nothing special about what we do, no more so than those doing simmilar things with closed source operating systems.
I first installed it around the same time as you, after a friend walked me though it. it was absolute ass-backwards to everything I had ever learned to do on a windows machine.
Over the years, I started learning new skills, software, and commands. Once I had a very thourough knowledge of the files, the configs, what does what, and what means what, I was able to accomplish most anything that I set out to.
This includes building, installing, configuring, and maintaining servers for most every protocol, keeping them safe with a firewall, and yadda yadda, everyone here does the same, i'm sure.
By far, the most rewarding part was only recently when I fell in love with the pre RC versions of KDE (cvs) that evolved into the current KDE 3.1.
My desktop is simply stunning. 1280x1024/w 24 bit color on my gForce2, running KDE 3.1. I used the very easy and menu driven font installer and installed all the.TTF fonts that were in my parents c:\winnt\fonts directory on their XP machine. Now all my fonts are gorgrous anti-aliased, and reminiscent of windows. I'm using the high perfomance liquid 0.9.5, with the keramik or glow window decors, and the light blue aqua color config. I'm also using the crystal icon theme by the very talented everaldo. Needless to say, when I use any Windows XP machine I smile a little bit thinking that everything about my desktop just *looks* better. The stability is improving with every release of KDE, and the interopability/drag and drop/whatever just works. file previews of pics, text, whatever, even if I hover the mouse over a movie, I get a preview window playing the movie until I move the mouse away.
I've never seen or used a windows computer that looked this good! A co-worker recently bought a g4, and osx was very pretty. It wasn't enough to make me wish I had one, as there are a lot of little *tweaks* and extras I've installed on mine to give it an edge over osx. However, there were some nice features of OSX that I wish my linux box had.
That said, everything you see done with windows *can* be done with linux, but you're right, I was installing all those kde versions from CVS, downloading and compiling on my own, configuring, and doing it over and over again everytime a new cvs version added a new feature.
Others have mentioned I'm sure by now that gentoo has a somewhat improved logic behind it's package management, and whatever, but that's okay. i'm happy with slack because it can do everything I want.
last point: I'm running a pII 300,/w 230 MB ram, and an 18GB scsi drive. loading KDE takes about 8 seconds, and everything after that, konquerer etc... is near instantaneous.
Looking at my desktop I realize that *nix desktops are advancing very well. they are in their infancy, but what OSX prooves is that even the "plug and just work" is possible on my platform of choice.
2nd "last point": the most powerfull message of your story was regarding the users. woop de do, we run linux. now let's grow up and start educating ourselves.
3rd "last point": one of the hardest things I had to do was get my cdrw working. using a fake scsi-ide adapter when I have a real adaptech adapter for my root partition was a pain. i was told to RTFM at leaast 50 times, but eventually after rebooting i saw the 2nd adapter, and xcdroast works. you gotta stick with it buddy, but if that's not an option (and no one should blame you), then you can take a break -- when you come back linux will have advanced just that little bit farther, and eventually it will be a viable alternative to the 'joe average' user -- and I whole heartedly agree that even though absoltuely everything is possible (i'm a good example of how sticking to it even if it takes 3 years *does* get you there), the jo average user will find it too daunting and realize that he can go install XP again, and the same night be doing what took me 3+ years to get right.
4th "last point": some of use (i fall into this category) are with it for the ideology. i think the way that linux and *bsd's were developed are the proper way to build/license/maintain operating systems and software.
a'ite, that was probably the funniest thing I have ever read on slashdot. i remember somwhere on this friggin' site ppl were bashing trolls (it might have been in the faq), anyway - a question was posed "why don't you just ban/block known trolls?", the response was something (quite awfully paraphrased) like 'well, in the beginining trolls were some of the most intelligent, funny, posts, and now the meaning has been taken out of context... since then I have been browsing with a threshold of 0. now I know why. gems like this are completely hillarious, and poke fun at our very nature... like c'mon folks -- if this gets a negative score i'll be very upset. let's look in the mirror, smell the coffee (since it's so close, and grow the hell up... there's such a thing as an anti troll i believe... most of the users on this site are anti-trolls, which are just as bad. MOD PARENT UP BECAUSE I HAVEN'T LAUGHED SO HARD IN WEEKS!
Did I mentioned that being text based it works great accross SSH connections. I've been using this program for years, and I have full history for hundreds of contacts going back to late 1999.
All in one window too! Everything is allways visible on the main screen.
CenterICQ is a text based console app which uses ncurses, and color themes.
It supports AIM, Yahoo! ICQ, MSN Messenger, and IRC.
cICQ has the best interface of any console app I have ever used, and the developer Konst, reponds to almost anything posting to the mailing list... I myself have had almost a dozen of the features I requested added to the program.
The program is completely stable, supports chat mode for all protocols, full history, ignore lists, contact groups, non IM contacts, collapsable groups, hide offline users, etc.... honestly -- this program has almost every worth while feature I've ever seen in any IM client -- not to mention that it supports every single protocol seamlessly, so the user (unless he/she organized contacts into groups based on protocol, wouldn't even know what protocol their contacts were using...Mbr> whatever, enough rambling... download this program, and support Konst's development!
Slashdot Mirror
Dude -- i'm uncertain about a lot of things that'll happen in the future... Will the earth implode, or be taken over by little green men? Will I get fired this afternoon if/when my boss finds out he's paying me to troll slashdot? I just don't know...
A ruler isn't going to increase certainty of these events which I can't forsee.
The reviewer allready answered this. Look in the table that precedes the review...
:)
"summary: Big honking monoliths beam in from the future."
Don't know how much more concise it can get...
"unknowableness" is a.k.a. uncertainty.
"t's dated twenty years in the future..."
Okay, i'm with you so far...
"and each lauds another victory by a leader who does not currently exist."
So, teenagers are winning the wars fought in the future? I knew the dexterity I had built up with a gamepad would come in handy some day... My giant robot remote controlled robot can beat yours anyday!
My Summation:
.biz tld he does not have a claim to keep his domain.
Mr. Black does not have a business. He has a business idea. Even if he did have content up on his website (I'm under the premise he did not -- or only had a splash page, which didn't service his intended business idea), he had no operation in which his business was generating revenue.
Even if the above is false information, he had not registered his business' trademark which utilized or consisted of the word "canadian".
Now, how is that not cyber squatting (by text book definition)?
He could have had all the intent in the world, but under the terms of the
Last ditch effort.
Maybe you're a programmer, maybe this'll help...
Number of Trademarks held by Molson Canada that utilize the word "Canadian" alone or in part of a phrase: >= 1 Number of Trademarks held by Mr. Black that utilize the word "Canadian" alone or in part of a phrase: 0
The fact that trademark in question deals with beer and not pencils is null.
Since 1 > 0, said company, Molson has some sort of a claim, don't you think? The fact that they enforced their claim, before say -- the CPMA (Canadian Pencil Makers Association)
Someone who doesn't own a trademark on a word/phrase and purchases the domain with no shown intent (he didn't even have content up!) for registering that name/trademark means they are a cyber squater.
Capiche?
Therefore it's entirely legit for somebody to publish a business directory called "Canadian". ...
... and register the trademark of the CANADIAN business directory. If Mr. Black had done that before registering his domain, Molson would've had a harder time taking it away. He didn't, and as it turns out it was quite easy for Molson to strip him bare. it's his fault!
If I had a mod point... I'd fling it in the morning...
:)
you deserve +1 funny d00d.
Exactly. What trademark? Mr. Black doesn't have one. Molson does.
Dude, thanks! It seems that you're the only one that actually read what I posted.
It seems that in order to successfully defend an oppinion on this site, one must reiterate their point over and over to each and every person that replies to them.
I love this community^(tm).
The flag manufaturing industry (er...), isn't controlled by a single governing body. I could start making flags. I can't go making domains, that's ICANN's and it's accredited (or non accredited) registrars job. Since domains are controlled by a single source, the rules for the .tld are as follows. Registered businesses only, and dibs go to the trademark holder.
THE TRADEMARK IS TAKEN! which is why he doesn't get the domain, and which is why he'd have to grab cbd or something.
Everything == GM, nowadays eh? thanks.
The rules for the registration of domain's with .com as their top level domain weren't as defined as they were with .biz.
.tm to mean trade mark because a trade mark can only be registered by a business, hence .biz.
TM is the country code for Turkmenistan.
We don't need
Shesh!
However, the store I own which is throwing the "sale of the century" cannot have a right to claim century.biz as their domain.... Why? Because that is Chrysler's (sp?) registered trademark.
.biz tld is for trademarks and registered business names. Which is why Chrysler gets century.biz and Molson get's canadian.biz.
Trademarks are only valid in the appropriate context.
That's my exact point! The
Does anyone else understand what I'm saying? This is probably the most simple concept in the world.
But I believe that is why the .biz top level domain was created, to give holder or trademarked words first dibs on the domain!
.biz is strictly for trade mark holders to get the slogan they own in the domain, he should have used .ca, or registered his own trademark -- one that wasn't taken!
Thanks for someone modding me down without refuting my points. i love this community(tm).
Either way, they do own the trademarks on that single word. There is no other business which has the single word 'canadian' trademarked. doesn't anyone else understand what I mean? sure, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation owns the trademarks to CBC, and the phrase "Canadian Broadcasting Corporation", so they would be more than entitled to take cbc.biz or canadianbroadcastingcorporation.biz, but *NOT* canadian.biz, that word is trademarked and copyrighted by Molson Canada!
The .biz tld was meant for businesses to be able to get domains for their Registered(R) Trademarks(TM), wasn't it?
Molson corporation makes the 2nd most popular beer in canada which is called 'Canadian', don't they?
Mr. Black had "thought" of starting a business that was basically a glorrified yellow pages, right?
His corralation to why he thinks his business idea (nothing registered, started, or operating as of the ICANN decision) deserves the domain canadian.biz is that the country he lives in just happens to be Canada.
Yeah, I think cyber squatting is completely shitty -- but this d00d didn't even have a functioning business, or even content on his website. Molson owns the freakin' copyright, and registered trademark on the word for christ sakes! It a top level domain that's geared towards owners of copyrighted trademarks, so this is one case where I gotta be reasonable and say Mr. Black -- you don't have a case.
exactly what I was thinking... great point. if i had mod points i would have given you one.
cheers!
:s/Linux/Linus 10th word, 3rd paragraph. k thx bye. and if you're thinking of flaming me for that and my other (many i'm sure) grammar, spelling, whatever errors, then that's the attitude i'm talking about.
Saying A Linux User Goes Back" means that the starting point of linux was a desire to switch away from MS.
I'm no history buff but I don't believe that Linux started devloping his kernel because he hated MS.
Statements the compare and contrast MS and alternatives, open sourced or not, GPL'ed or not, makes the d00d who wrote the essay feel the way he does regarding users of those alternative OS's.
We are our own worst enemy.
Those most poingt (sp?) part of the his story was summarized in this quote:
"Can you believe that? It's just a computer operating system, but somehow they think that it makes them better than those people who run systems such as Microsoft Windows! Elitism drives people away, as does saying "RTFM" or belittling people who choose a different distro from yourself."
Even the way taco Stated definitevly, almost as if it were an obligatory trade off for allowing it on the front page: "Some of his ponts are wrong".
I'm sorry but it's that attitude which makes us all look like kids. there's nothing special about what we do, no more so than those doing simmilar things with closed source operating systems.
I enjoy using gnu/linux.
/w 24 bit color on my gForce2, running KDE 3.1. I used the very easy and menu driven font installer and installed all the .TTF fonts that were in my parents c:\winnt\fonts directory on their XP machine. Now all my fonts are gorgrous anti-aliased, and reminiscent of windows. I'm using the high perfomance liquid 0.9.5, with the keramik or glow window decors, and the light blue aqua color config. I'm also using the crystal icon theme by the very talented everaldo. Needless to say, when I use any Windows XP machine I smile a little bit thinking that everything about my desktop just *looks* better. The stability is improving with every release of KDE, and the interopability/drag and drop/whatever just works. file previews of pics, text, whatever, even if I hover the mouse over a movie, I get a preview window playing the movie until I move the mouse away.
/w 230 MB ram, and an 18GB scsi drive. loading KDE takes about 8 seconds, and everything after that, konquerer etc... is near instantaneous.
I first installed it around the same time as you, after a friend walked me though it. it was absolute ass-backwards to everything I had ever learned to do on a windows machine.
Over the years, I started learning new skills, software, and commands. Once I had a very thourough knowledge of the files, the configs, what does what, and what means what, I was able to accomplish most anything that I set out to.
This includes building, installing, configuring, and maintaining servers for most every protocol, keeping them safe with a firewall, and yadda yadda, everyone here does the same, i'm sure.
By far, the most rewarding part was only recently when I fell in love with the pre RC versions of KDE (cvs) that evolved into the current KDE 3.1.
My desktop is simply stunning. 1280x1024
I've never seen or used a windows computer that looked this good! A co-worker recently bought a g4, and osx was very pretty. It wasn't enough to make me wish I had one, as there are a lot of little *tweaks* and extras I've installed on mine to give it an edge over osx. However, there were some nice features of OSX that I wish my linux box had.
That said, everything you see done with windows *can* be done with linux, but you're right, I was installing all those kde versions from CVS, downloading and compiling on my own, configuring, and doing it over and over again everytime a new cvs version added a new feature.
Others have mentioned I'm sure by now that gentoo has a somewhat improved logic behind it's package management, and whatever, but that's okay. i'm happy with slack because it can do everything I want.
last point: I'm running a pII 300,
Looking at my desktop I realize that *nix desktops are advancing very well. they are in their infancy, but what OSX prooves is that even the "plug and just work" is possible on my platform of choice.
2nd "last point": the most powerfull message of your story was regarding the users. woop de do, we run linux. now let's grow up and start educating ourselves.
3rd "last point": one of the hardest things I had to do was get my cdrw working. using a fake scsi-ide adapter when I have a real adaptech adapter for my root partition was a pain. i was told to RTFM at leaast 50 times, but eventually after rebooting i saw the 2nd adapter, and xcdroast works. you gotta stick with it buddy, but if that's not an option (and no one should blame you), then you can take a break -- when you come back linux will have advanced just that little bit farther, and eventually it will be a viable alternative to the 'joe average' user -- and I whole heartedly agree that even though absoltuely everything is possible (i'm a good example of how sticking to it even if it takes 3 years *does* get you there), the jo average user will find it too daunting and realize that he can go install XP again, and the same night be doing what took me 3+ years to get right.
4th "last point": some of use (i fall into this category) are with it for the ideology. i think the way that linux and *bsd's were developed are the proper way to build/license/maintain operating systems and software.
anyway -- cheers mate, it'll get there.
i hate silent cars though. they're too easy to walk in front of...
a'ite, that was probably the funniest thing I have ever read on slashdot. i remember somwhere on this friggin' site ppl were bashing trolls (it might have been in the faq), anyway - a question was posed "why don't you just ban/block known trolls?", the response was something (quite awfully paraphrased) like 'well, in the beginining trolls were some of the most intelligent, funny, posts, and now the meaning has been taken out of context... since then I have been browsing with a threshold of 0. now I know why. gems like this are completely hillarious, and poke fun at our very nature... like c'mon folks -- if this gets a negative score i'll be very upset. let's look in the mirror, smell the coffee (since it's so close, and grow the hell up... there's such a thing as an anti troll i believe... most of the users on this site are anti-trolls, which are just as bad. MOD PARENT UP BECAUSE I HAVEN'T LAUGHED SO HARD IN WEEKS!
kthxbye
I realize that so many ppl are lazy and want direct links, so here goes...
Screen Shots
Konst's HomePage for cICQ
Mailing List Archive
Did I mentioned that being text based it works great accross SSH connections. I've been using this program for years, and I have full history for hundreds of contacts going back to late 1999.
All in one window too! Everything is allways visible on the main screen.
CenterICQ is a text based console app which uses ncurses, and color themes.
It supports AIM, Yahoo! ICQ, MSN Messenger, and IRC.
cICQ has the best interface of any console app I have ever used, and the developer Konst, reponds to almost anything posting to the mailing list... I myself have had almost a dozen of the features I requested added to the program.
The program is completely stable, supports chat mode for all protocols, full history, ignore lists, contact groups, non IM contacts, collapsable groups, hide offline users, etc.... honestly -- this program has almost every worth while feature I've ever seen in any IM client -- not to mention that it supports every single protocol seamlessly, so the user (unless he/she organized contacts into groups based on protocol, wouldn't even know what protocol their contacts were using...Mbr>
whatever, enough rambling... download this program, and support Konst's development!
download link