I think someone who puts themselves on multiple transplant lists is doing a good job of seeing the world the way it is. He did do a good job of convincing people he did one thing, but he was not really doing anything of the sort.
The elimination of caps was done years ago as part of the ACA. As was frivolous cancellations, for things like filling out an application wrong. Of course they didn't notice your app was wrong until they were "almost" on the hook for a ton of money, tough luck for you.
While life isn't fair, our legal and ethical system does have a element of fairness designed into it. That's what i was referencing. "Do unto others..." seems to be the motto of those who clawed their way to a comfortable living with the ability to afford healthcare, I'm the one advocating change here.
I consider benefits as part of my salary when I consider jobs. It kind of sucks that they can be unilaterally changed on an annual basis. It also makes it hard to compare. This company offers $70k, but their insurance is per child and way more expensive. This company offer $60k, but their insurance has a "family" rate. This company covers 90% of your insurance costs, but none for your family. This company covers 75% of insurance costs for any plan.
I've see all these examples. It can make a huge difference in your take home pay.
If I as an employer were paying $250 for insurance and my employers were paying $250 as well, then I told my employees they could get their own insurance for $200, saving $50 of the $250 they were paying, I would feel obligated to pay the employees at least a portion of the $250 / month i was saving. I would probably pool it and give everyone a raise.
Does the threat of violence oppress you from strolling to work nude? Do you pay for groceries under the specter of a gun? Is violence the only thing that keeps you from running your sewage line into a creek that passes through your property?
It works fine, until you hit that cap you probably weren't aware of, brain tumor; leukemia, serious accident causing partial paralysis, failed kidney (actually your good their because you will automatically qualify for medicare), car rollover resulting in injuries and infections that eventually cause you to need a heart transplant (happened to an acquaintance); your screwed.
My point is, you are trying to protect yourself from catastrophic issues and you are only protecting yourself from bankruptcy (maybe), your not insuring care for yourself or the ones you love (the point of insurance).
Thanks for that. I am not in the individual insurance marketplace. I think obamacare is better then the alternative of doing nothing, but I really want a single payer plan. Insurance needs to be divorced from employment. If i have to pay for it anyway, why not make it a tax and do it right.
BTW, I have a pretty well fleshed out account for a sock puppet. I'm pretty sure my real name could be easily linked to this account. Unlike the AC who is calling me out and probably works for some GOP politician, or is too stupid to see the strings they are dancing at the end of...
So we've got young and middle aged people carrying the burden of health care costs for their elders (been that way as long as I've been alive), the least you can do is kick in for contraceptives and maternity care. It's only fair. It's not like fairness and consideration for others is a cornerstone of a functioning society or anything.
Too many people would rather burn it all down if it isn't done their way, or it benefits people they don't value.
So you had private insurance pre-obamacare? I am skeptical, but if so, you are lucky. What you don't realize is how unlikely it was that your insurance would have helped if something had seriously gone wrong.
Most pre-obamacare individual policies were the functional equivalent of the rock I keep in my pocket to ward off tigers. They made you feel good and may have actually helped with small emergencies, but they were useless when the serious issues that you thought you were covering actually came up.
mass quantities of blood for the 99% too, unfortunately, and it also seems to be a crap-shoot whether you end up with some sort of egotistical psycho in charge afterwards.
If we make it to the 2nd amendment as a corrective measure, we have failed.
_ Any single rail accident would spill far less oil than a spill or break in the oil pipeline._
Are you sure about that? Remember, that we are not just talking about rail, but also tankers that will take the oil across the ocean to China. Then, of course, the Chinese will refine it, using God knows what kind of environmental safeguards. Once it is refined, it will be loaded back into a tanker or pumped through Chinese pipelines. Still think this is a better idea than a single pipeline to US regulated refineries?
are you sure about your response? where is the evidence that pipeline spills are less then or equal to tanker spills? They're not.
There plenty of poor that live outside of slumville and even that guy doesn't want the only tree on his block killed by corrosive rain, or the river that runs through the city stinking of chemicals and unsafe to eat from. The rich can move their asses to a pristine area if they or their industry needs to fark up one spot they don't tend to care that much.
But far be it from me to burst your bubble of paternalistic safety.
Slashdot Mirror
I think someone who puts themselves on multiple transplant lists is doing a good job of seeing the world the way it is. He did do a good job of convincing people he did one thing, but he was not really doing anything of the sort.
The tragedy of convincing yourself you are always the smartest person in the room.
Wow, that's an impressive level of misinformation and poorly reasoned ideaology.
The elimination of caps was done years ago as part of the ACA. As was frivolous cancellations, for things like filling out an application wrong. Of course they didn't notice your app was wrong until they were "almost" on the hook for a ton of money, tough luck for you.
So, you support the ACA?
While life isn't fair, our legal and ethical system does have a element of fairness designed into it. That's what i was referencing. "Do unto others..." seems to be the motto of those who clawed their way to a comfortable living with the ability to afford healthcare, I'm the one advocating change here.
I consider benefits as part of my salary when I consider jobs. It kind of sucks that they can be unilaterally changed on an annual basis. It also makes it hard to compare. This company offers $70k, but their insurance is per child and way more expensive. This company offer $60k, but their insurance has a "family" rate. This company covers 90% of your insurance costs, but none for your family. This company covers 75% of insurance costs for any plan.
I've see all these examples. It can make a huge difference in your take home pay.
If I as an employer were paying $250 for insurance and my employers were paying $250 as well, then I told my employees they could get their own insurance for $200, saving $50 of the $250 they were paying, I would feel obligated to pay the employees at least a portion of the $250 / month i was saving. I would probably pool it and give everyone a raise.
btw, I find the irony in your sig amusing, "ethical infants" is a good description of the ACA haters.
I didn't say life was fair, I said we gave, you took. Time for us to take some now. If you don't like it, like you said, life's not fair.
Oh, wait, life's not fair when your on top, when someone else benefits, it's whine and cheese time.
Does the threat of violence oppress you from strolling to work nude? Do you pay for groceries under the specter of a gun? Is violence the only thing that keeps you from running your sewage line into a creek that passes through your property?
You live in a sad world. I live in a society.
It works fine, until you hit that cap you probably weren't aware of, brain tumor; leukemia, serious accident causing partial paralysis, failed kidney (actually your good their because you will automatically qualify for medicare), car rollover resulting in injuries and infections that eventually cause you to need a heart transplant (happened to an acquaintance); your screwed.
My point is, you are trying to protect yourself from catastrophic issues and you are only protecting yourself from bankruptcy (maybe), your not insuring care for yourself or the ones you love (the point of insurance).
Thanks for that. I am not in the individual insurance marketplace. I think obamacare is better then the alternative of doing nothing, but I really want a single payer plan. Insurance needs to be divorced from employment. If i have to pay for it anyway, why not make it a tax and do it right.
BTW, I have a pretty well fleshed out account for a sock puppet. I'm pretty sure my real name could be easily linked to this account. Unlike the AC who is calling me out and probably works for some GOP politician, or is too stupid to see the strings they are dancing at the end of...
Interesting and thoughtful response. thanks!
So we've got young and middle aged people carrying the burden of health care costs for their elders (been that way as long as I've been alive), the least you can do is kick in for contraceptives and maternity care. It's only fair. It's not like fairness and consideration for others is a cornerstone of a functioning society or anything.
Too many people would rather burn it all down if it isn't done their way, or it benefits people they don't value.
They probably do, your probably talking to a high functioning moron.
Any of those savings (which could be considered part of an employees salary) get passed on to the employee?
I've turned down jobs with small companies because the insurance was enough to wipe out a 20% pay increase, going from a midsize company.
/say yes to single-payer (you would if you saw what the economies of scale allow large companies to pay for insurance)
$240 a month is pretty close to $3k a year. Where you including your HSA payments?
So you had private insurance pre-obamacare? I am skeptical, but if so, you are lucky. What you don't realize is how unlikely it was that your insurance would have helped if something had seriously gone wrong.
Most pre-obamacare individual policies were the functional equivalent of the rock I keep in my pocket to ward off tigers. They made you feel good and may have actually helped with small emergencies, but they were useless when the serious issues that you thought you were covering actually came up.
today a straw man became a scarecrow
mass quantities of blood for the 99% too, unfortunately, and it also seems to be a crap-shoot whether you end up with some sort of egotistical psycho in charge afterwards.
If we make it to the 2nd amendment as a corrective measure, we have failed.
You mispelled "steal technologies"
-now with irony-
_ Any single rail accident would spill far less oil than a spill or break in the oil pipeline._ Are you sure about that? Remember, that we are not just talking about rail, but also tankers that will take the oil across the ocean to China. Then, of course, the Chinese will refine it, using God knows what kind of environmental safeguards. Once it is refined, it will be loaded back into a tanker or pumped through Chinese pipelines. Still think this is a better idea than a single pipeline to US regulated refineries?
are you sure about your response? where is the evidence that pipeline spills are less then or equal to tanker spills? They're not.
see what I did there...
wish I had a mod point for this...
Sure..., your music was the best ever...
whatever makes you feel young and hip is certainly the epitome of music...
There plenty of poor that live outside of slumville and even that guy doesn't want the only tree on his block killed by corrosive rain, or the river that runs through the city stinking of chemicals and unsafe to eat from. The rich can move their asses to a pristine area if they or their industry needs to fark up one spot they don't tend to care that much.
But far be it from me to burst your bubble of paternalistic safety.