Don't get me wrong, I like to rage out on the right-wing "talking points" on long drives, but news isn't about "talking points". If your news needs to be broken down into complex explanations, it's probably more propaganda then news.
Any VPN provider will not see HTTPS traffic. As long as you stay away from dedicated clients you don't have to worry about MITM. Your still using a more expensive and more difficult solution. It could make sense if you already have a VPS, but I know the bandwidth charges, for me, would quickly exceed the cost of a dedicated VPN provider, even a more expensive one.
I agree, but if your a true privacy advocate you should be willing to publicize this more. At the very least email me the name of the company so I can do some personal research and work on highlighting this and making illegal in the US as well as Europe.
I don't see why these posts keep getting so much traction, is it stupidity, malice, or ignorance?
Point by point:
1. ) VPS's are difficult to pay for discreetly, most VPN providers support methods of payment that are not linked back to you. Many will take gift cards from most stores at a slight premium, provide "gift-cards" to resellers, or allow cash payments (good luck).
2.) Few VPS's provide unlimited bandwidth until you get to higher price plans. Most paid VPN's provide unlimited bandwidth. Data Center bandwidth is not expensive and their model calls for no logging, which would make monitoring bandwidth for billing difficult.
3.) VPS providers log everything. They often provide a level of troubleshooting that requires them to maintain logs. Their business model requires logs. VPN providers do not log.
---a) The level of trust here is the same. If both are logging, both have your info. One is less likely to log, even if it's not a certainty. There is also anecdotal support to show many reputable VPN providers stand by their "no logging" guarantee.
4.) A VPS gives you one egress point, this egress point is probably linked to you and if not, you are still the only one using it. A VPN provider usually provides many egress options. You can change yours at will. Your traffic is mixed with others and probably not logged. Even if it is logged, identifying you is more difficult and requires legal work.
In conclusion, there are few reasons why a VPS with VPN is better privacy then a VPN from a VPN provider. The cost is more, the privacy is less, and the accessibility is lower when you use a VPS. Feel free to paste this with our without attribution next time you see these "just use a VPS" posts. If your making these posts, stop. We get it, your smart enough to setup a vpn server. Now show your smart enough to understand the different problems a VPN provider is handling.
Most of these flaws are in browser extensions and such. A company provided desktop client isn't necessarily a bad thing. I use the PIA android app because it supports some features that would be a pain to manage manually.
I also make sure they use openVPN and use that on my home router.
I think your misunderstanding. I resolver still queries an upstream DNS server. It will usually default to your ISP's, but you can use openDNS, google, or pipe it off to a VPN providers DNS. There is nothing that makes a resolver inherently safer.
I'd decrypt for a third party pledged to access only what the warrant is seeking. I don't think it's fair to decrypt and give blanket access for fishing expeditions.
I prefer a tcp/ip stack. It's too tempting and all but assures any attack vectors will use it.
I understand it much better then whatever communication stack is inside a dumb cell phone. As you said, they can still track your location, log your messages, phone calls, and metadata.
I wonder how these cars act around pedestrians. Do they edge uncomfortably close, or roll slightly in anticipation? I can think of several reasons someone might get angry. Computer run systems often follow exacting parameters which can seem too close to someone accustomed to human operators.
It would be easy to assume the car has an inattentive driver instead of a computer operator.
Yeah, my town is chasing things like IKIA, "destination dining", and entertainent like Top Golf. None of these contribute significantly to the city. One article I've read even said something about them expecting an influx of workers because these aren't jobs that pay enough for people in the community.
None of these contribute to the community beyond a "look at us", and they cost big in taxes. I think it's because the local government is mostly stacked with developer types. The bill is going to come due in a decade or so, the subdivisions we annexed to increase our population and become a city will also drain our tax base.
We'll see how it turns out, but I'm not optimistic.
Walmart doesn't ship milk. Although the Amazon listings for Milk are mostly scammy looking. Walmart has much better prices on powdered milk and shelf stable milk products.
US government is not the risk most VPN users are mitigating. File sharing is a civil issue and most of us are just trying to avoid being bundled into an advertisers portfolio by verizon, comcast, at&t, etc.
I don't know why the ISP's think it's their right and this should be a standard part of their business model, but as long as it is, I'll use a vpn.
Unlimited bandwidth for a way lower price. I use pia for about $30 a year. I get access to more exit points, and I trust them more then verizon or xfinity. They have no incentive to insert ads or share my browsing data with every advertiser, this is directly contrary to their business model. I'm sure they'd roll over for a warrant, but that's not the risk I'm mitigating.
Sure, it's un-possible that some previous time when you were younger, more optimistic, and less scared would loom in your memory as greater then it was. Got it.
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Don't get me wrong, I like to rage out on the right-wing "talking points" on long drives, but news isn't about "talking points". If your news needs to be broken down into complex explanations, it's probably more propaganda then news.
She's basically Jack Black's character from Envy, except not as successful.
It just feels wrong to punish rich young people with so much of their lives ahead of them.
Bullshit, bullshit and mover business as usual.
I had about a dozen Alix 2d3 boards, but I'm down to one and one newer APU. I gave away or sold them, none broke. They are great for network stuff.
Not sure I prefer a "more precise" location to give marketers.
Any VPN provider will not see HTTPS traffic. As long as you stay away from dedicated clients you don't have to worry about MITM.
Your still using a more expensive and more difficult solution. It could make sense if you already have a VPS, but I know the bandwidth charges, for me, would quickly exceed the cost of a dedicated VPN provider, even a more expensive one.
I agree, but if your a true privacy advocate you should be willing to publicize this more. At the very least email me the name of the company so I can do some personal research and work on highlighting this and making illegal in the US as well as Europe.
I don't see why these posts keep getting so much traction, is it stupidity, malice, or ignorance?
Point by point:
1. ) VPS's are difficult to pay for discreetly, most VPN providers support methods of payment that are not linked back to you. Many will take gift cards from most stores at a slight premium, provide "gift-cards" to resellers, or allow cash payments (good luck).
2.) Few VPS's provide unlimited bandwidth until you get to higher price plans. Most paid VPN's provide unlimited bandwidth. Data Center bandwidth is not expensive and their model calls for no logging, which would make monitoring bandwidth for billing difficult.
3.) VPS providers log everything. They often provide a level of troubleshooting that requires them to maintain logs. Their business model requires logs. VPN providers do not log.
---a) The level of trust here is the same. If both are logging, both have your info. One is less likely to log, even if it's not a certainty. There is also anecdotal support to show many reputable VPN providers stand by their "no logging" guarantee.
4.) A VPS gives you one egress point, this egress point is probably linked to you and if not, you are still the only one using it. A VPN provider usually provides many egress options. You can change yours at will. Your traffic is mixed with others and probably not logged. Even if it is logged, identifying you is more difficult and requires legal work.
In conclusion, there are few reasons why a VPS with VPN is better privacy then a VPN from a VPN provider. The cost is more, the privacy is less, and the accessibility is lower when you use a VPS.
Feel free to paste this with our without attribution next time you see these "just use a VPS" posts. If your making these posts, stop. We get it, your smart enough to setup a vpn server. Now show your smart enough to understand the different problems a VPN provider is handling.
Most of these flaws are in browser extensions and such. A company provided desktop client isn't necessarily a bad thing. I use the PIA android app because it supports some features that would be a pain to manage manually.
I also make sure they use openVPN and use that on my home router.
Connect it to PIA so all your traffic routes through a vpn.
I think AirVPN is the best service oriented privacy VPN.
I'd be more interested in taxing copyright after a set period. IP benefits from our society, it should contribute.
I think your misunderstanding. I resolver still queries an upstream DNS server. It will usually default to your ISP's, but you can use openDNS, google, or pipe it off to a VPN providers DNS.
There is nothing that makes a resolver inherently safer.
I've run a server on my comcast internet for years without a peep.
We'll see how quick apple is to patch this. It definitely shouldn't be out of their reach.
I'd decrypt for a third party pledged to access only what the warrant is seeking. I don't think it's fair to decrypt and give blanket access for fishing expeditions.
I prefer a tcp/ip stack. It's too tempting and all but assures any attack vectors will use it.
I understand it much better then whatever communication stack is inside a dumb cell phone. As you said, they can still track your location, log your messages, phone calls, and metadata.
I wonder how these cars act around pedestrians. Do they edge uncomfortably close, or roll slightly in anticipation? I can think of several reasons someone might get angry. Computer run systems often follow exacting parameters which can seem too close to someone accustomed to human operators.
It would be easy to assume the car has an inattentive driver instead of a computer operator.
Yeah, my town is chasing things like IKIA, "destination dining", and entertainent like Top Golf. None of these contribute significantly to the city. One article I've read even said something about them expecting an influx of workers because these aren't jobs that pay enough for people in the community.
None of these contribute to the community beyond a "look at us", and they cost big in taxes.
I think it's because the local government is mostly stacked with developer types. The bill is going to come due in a decade or so, the subdivisions we annexed to increase our population and become a city will also drain our tax base.
We'll see how it turns out, but I'm not optimistic.
Walmart doesn't ship milk. Although the Amazon listings for Milk are mostly scammy looking. Walmart has much better prices on powdered milk and shelf stable milk products.
US government is not the risk most VPN users are mitigating. File sharing is a civil issue and most of us are just trying to avoid being bundled into an advertisers portfolio by verizon, comcast, at&t, etc.
I don't know why the ISP's think it's their right and this should be a standard part of their business model, but as long as it is, I'll use a vpn.
Unlimited bandwidth for a way lower price. I use pia for about $30 a year. I get access to more exit points, and I trust them more then verizon or xfinity.
They have no incentive to insert ads or share my browsing data with every advertiser, this is directly contrary to their business model. I'm sure they'd roll over for a warrant, but that's not the risk I'm mitigating.
Sure, it's un-possible that some previous time when you were younger, more optimistic, and less scared would loom in your memory as greater then it was. Got it.
Ahh.. The wonderful mythical days of yore...
This needs a mod point.