You know, that would be a good poll, "How many terminal windows do you keep open at a time?" (0; 1; 2; 4; 8; Until I run of processes; What, you mean like DOS?)
It is about 4 for me, because I like to keep them all in the same workspace. This naturally means that the more screen I have, the more terminals I have. Mmmmmm, CLI....
First of all. this does not look like Jackie Chan, even if you could spell it right, and second, I told you already that your sampling technique sucks. The only shading you have attempted consists of using semi-colons to show that his left leg is farther away than his right. Is this the best you can do??
Added to this, you haven't even managed to produce enough images to keep them unique in your posts. Maybe we should call you "microlion," huh?
Yeah, and you didn't put the apostrophe in the right place in your post, but do you see us wasting space complaining about it? Oh, I guess we do. Great discussion board we have here.
In the movie 2010 (brrr...) at least, HAL stood for Heuristic ALgorhythm (pardon spelling). But the movie was so bad in general that it could easily be different in the book.
[wow, there are a lot of idiots posting today, not you, the ones that replyed to you]
I think the point is to make it stable without consuming power. Your solution is fine if you want RAM like memory, but not if you are trying to get a bigger hard drive.
Good point about it not stopping at the center. I never thought of that, and I think a whole lot of science fiction writers miss it as well.
At some point I will do the math for [1g black hole versus density of particles it will encounter] and [time it takes to explode due to hawking radiation], but right now I am too overworked already.
This reminds me of when I had a subscription to Nintendo Power. Every few months, they would have a back of the issue tow pager about some "educational" or "organizer" cartridge that would be coming out soon. There was one you could get for the gameboy that had a datebook, note keeper, alarm clock, etc. These articles were usually headed with something like "Look! Nintendo Can Make Stuff That Is Not Just For Fun" to which I would reply "And no one buys it because they bought the thing to play games!"
Perhaps this is not a parralel situation, but that's what I thought of.
You are right, if the sun turned into a black hole, Earth would go on happily orbiting because the gravitational effects out here would not change. [Perhaps the added spin of the sun would make a bit of a difference, but I don't know what is conserved in this case]
However, there is a large difference between a 1g block of steel and a 1g black hole if you are trying to keep it sitting on a table [or in any other non-vacuum]. The steel and the hole will have the same gravitational effect if you are 2cm away from the center of each, but anything very close to the hole WILL get sucked in, because the gravity DOES make the escape velocity rise to above the speed of light as you move towards it. If you "set" your 1g black hole down on the table, it would not and could not be supported and would fall straight thru any matter in its way until it got to the center of the earth. As it went and once it was there, it most definitly continue to suck matter in. Perhaps the rate of suck would be very small at first, since particles have to get real close in order to be trapped, but the more that it eats, the more it sucks.
On the other hand: A 1g black hole would evaporate (read: explode) very quickly due to hawking radiation.
And: They are not making black holes anyway, that is just an analogy, RTFArticle.
My guess is that if the black hole you dropped into the earth were big enough to have a net gain in mass as time progressed (ie it is not evaporating faster than it eats), then you would not get "a century or so." Since the growth of the hole would most likely be fit by y=x^x or some other god-awful function, we'd either be completely safe, or quickly dead.
On the other hand, I am basing this on almost no information. Can anyone point us to a well thought out mathematical model of this?
People with high karma get automatic +1's to any comment they do not specifically designate "No Score +1 Bonus." That's why there is no reason specified for his score.
uhm, ok, let us review significant figures. You just quoted a number to six decimal places, or one part in 400,000, but prefixed it with the word "about."
It occurs to me that you could be using "." to mean "," but if you want me to accept that, you had better use the correct abbrviation for kilometer, which is km, not KM (Kelvin Mega?).
As others have said, you also oughta be more precise when you talk about light speed in an opaque medium.
Yeah, and when your exhasustive method starts blowing away perfectly legitamate posts because they make reference to the new RIT5 encoding method (or ATA13 drives or something) you'll feel really clever. There is no way you will institute a filter that will catch all trolls and only trolls. Even catching a few trolls and only trolls is a challenge. The best you can do is search for posts that repeat the same long string over and over again. This is the only troll catcher I can think of that isn't likely to start tossing good posts.
With over 5,000 students on the net at once in your dorm, hmmmm, i'll take that as an acceptable exageration you'd think you were the only is there an ommited word here? or maybe that "the" was accidentally inserted on a cable modem high on crack. Confused by earlier errors, bailing out.
...the idea that you do NOT have an entitlement to recreational internet usage in your college dormitory.
I think I have said it before, but I'll say it again. Colleges already give students more than they need to survive and study. We have rec centers, snack bars, telephones, bathtubs, a TV on each floor (in some places) and so on. None of these are necessary and all of them cost the school money. So why do they do it? Because they are part of life and they keep people happy. The internet is not all that new and special anymore, it is on its way to becoming fully integrated into "the way life is." In twenty years, the suggestion of limiting bandwidth will sound a whole like a suggestion now of having no telephones or no campus post office.
Unfortunately you do, and you will, until you're in your mid-30s to early 40s. Then life's circumstances will cause you to endorse some of those ideas, as well as provide you with the resources to enforce your own "outdated" ideas on the generation younger than you.
Oh, so it is a vicious cycle and there is no way to fix it, I guess we are all just wasting our time trying to update the world.
You're right! You don't! Rush out right now and purchase a home and your own bandwidth and you won't have any restrictions whatsoever. I would have suggested renting an apartment, but that would entail living under a landlord's outdated ideas as well. You'll still have to contend with outdated community standards, zoning boards, and city, county and state governments, but generally speaking they'll keep out of your way as long as you spread your cash around evenly.
Even ignoring the sarcastic suggestion of bribing everyone in the world in order to live in peace, the amount of money it would take for all college students who want to use the internet to find an apartment and get DSL would be so much larger than the amount of money it takes to simply give them full access to a campus network makes this a silly suggestion. Either everyone pays X to get ethernet, or.1% of people who can afford it pay 100X to get a private connection while everyone else gets nothing. Which of these sounds more fair to you?
I really had forgotten how downtrodden and oppressed our younger generation is..
Please don't call this old argument. I know you walked barefoot twenty miles thru the snow uphill both ways to school (which didn't have an internet connection) everyday, but that doesn't mean we have to. We should be able to benifit from what is avaliable without having to work around unreasonable restrictions to get at it.
We found lots to do -- sports, studying, drinking, sex, and on and on.
Ummmmm, aren't you listening? The woman is advocating strictly single sex rooms as well as restricting internet use. Please don't respond with an argument like "Well, people always have and always will find ways around those rules." the point is that we shouldn't have to live under the rule of people who hold outdated ideas.
Likewise, we don't need to live under the rules of people that think bandwidth is so precious that it should only be used for academic purposes. We don't really need phones either, but the college somehow manages to provide us with them...
Except.... Most large colleges and universities have a fast connection. If I am downloading my porn at 100k/s, that means that someone downloading educational material is also getting about 100k/s. Since most educational material comes in the form of text, this is extremely fast. In fact, for 99% of academic work, I would say that 5k/s is more than sufficient. Given this, there really is no reason to restrict "other" downloads, since they do not significantly hamper "legitamite" ones. Remember also that the avaliable bandwidth has historically increased even faster than CPU speed, so even if it is congested now, wait a bit and it won't be.
Add to this the additional headaches your suggestion would cause. Everyone would have to be educated about the new method and a lot of the non-geeks would take a while to undersatand. I would be pissed that the people who barely touch their computers are wasting an allotment of throughput that I could be using. Sysadmins would have to use valuable hours making sure the bandwidth sharing system was working and that no one was getting around it. Trust me, no one would like it.
It is too bad you know... People describe high school like that and long for the freedom of college. Now there are people trying their hardest to make us describe college the same way. At least we can be assured that such efforts will ultimitly (pardon sp) fail. There simply aren't enough people out there that favor abolition of sex for it to succeed
Great, except you got the numbers wrong. It is 75 cents to the dollar now, not 60. I heard this figure on NPR just this morning. So really the men only get 25 cents, or one third of what the women get. Much worse than you thought, eh?
(To all you people who will misunderstand me: Yes, I am kidding, I understand that he is kidding, please do not flame me for being stupid, at worst, I am failing to be funny.)
Finding primes: The only reasons are fame and money. Do they find anything? Yes, but at essentially random times.
Finding keys: The only reasons are fame and money. Do they find anything? Yes, at highly predictable times (hence making the actual finding a trivial matter).
Finding extra-terrestrial life: Fame, money(?), one of the greatest scientific and philisophical questions in history answered. Do they find anything? Nope, and they aren't likely to anytime soon for various reasons.
So you can either have useless+sucess or useful+failure.
Someone mentioned a future distributed.net project that was not key cracking and actually had reason for existance. When i am not so tired, I will look into this, but it really looks like the way to go.
Incedentally, I run two copies of Prime95 and the Seti screensaver on a 4 hour delay. Draw conclusions about my personality from that:-).
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You know, that would be a good poll, "How many terminal windows do you keep open at a time?" (0; 1; 2; 4; 8; Until I run of processes; What, you mean like DOS?)
It is about 4 for me, because I like to keep them all in the same workspace. This naturally means that the more screen I have, the more terminals I have. Mmmmmm, CLI....
It would seem the whole thing boils down to the ol' First Law of Thermodynamocs: Things tend from order to disorder, and not the reverse.
Which would be the second law, not the first.
And it looks like he is holding water, or some fluid anyway (heh) above his arm... clean up the image already!
First of all. this does not look like Jackie Chan, even if you could spell it right, and second, I told you already that your sampling technique sucks. The only shading you have attempted consists of using semi-colons to show that his left leg is farther away than his right. Is this the best you can do??
Added to this, you haven't even managed to produce enough images to keep them unique in your posts. Maybe we should call you "microlion," huh?
Your ASCII art breasts suck! I tell you there is better out there, go find it.
/me grumbles about underuse of avaliable characters...
We've had WOM for years, it's called the printer. (It's WOM as far as the computer cares anyway.)
Yeah, and you didn't put the apostrophe in the right place in your post, but do you see us wasting space complaining about it? Oh, I guess we do. Great discussion board we have here.
In the movie 2010 (brrr...) at least, HAL stood for Heuristic ALgorhythm (pardon spelling). But the movie was so bad in general that it could easily be different in the book.
[wow, there are a lot of idiots posting today, not you, the ones that replyed to you]
I think the point is to make it stable without consuming power. Your solution is fine if you want RAM like memory, but not if you are trying to get a bigger hard drive.
Good point about it not stopping at the center. I never thought of that, and I think a whole lot of science fiction writers miss it as well.
At some point I will do the math for [1g black hole versus density of particles it will encounter] and [time it takes to explode due to hawking radiation], but right now I am too overworked already.
This reminds me of when I had a subscription to Nintendo Power. Every few months, they would have a back of the issue tow pager about some "educational" or "organizer" cartridge that would be coming out soon. There was one you could get for the gameboy that had a datebook, note keeper, alarm clock, etc. These articles were usually headed with something like "Look! Nintendo Can Make Stuff That Is Not Just For Fun" to which I would reply "And no one buys it because they bought the thing to play games!"
Perhaps this is not a parralel situation, but that's what I thought of.
You are right, if the sun turned into a black hole, Earth would go on happily orbiting because the gravitational effects out here would not change. [Perhaps the added spin of the sun would make a bit of a difference, but I don't know what is conserved in this case]
However, there is a large difference between a 1g block of steel and a 1g black hole if you are trying to keep it sitting on a table [or in any other non-vacuum]. The steel and the hole will have the same gravitational effect if you are 2cm away from the center of each, but anything very close to the hole WILL get sucked in, because the gravity DOES make the escape velocity rise to above the speed of light as you move towards it. If you "set" your 1g black hole down on the table, it would not and could not be supported and would fall straight thru any matter in its way until it got to the center of the earth. As it went and once it was there, it most definitly continue to suck matter in. Perhaps the rate of suck would be very small at first, since particles have to get real close in order to be trapped, but the more that it eats, the more it sucks.
On the other hand: A 1g black hole would evaporate (read: explode) very quickly due to hawking radiation.
And: They are not making black holes anyway, that is just an analogy, RTFArticle.
My guess is that if the black hole you dropped into the earth were big enough to have a net gain in mass as time progressed (ie it is not evaporating faster than it eats), then you would not get "a century or so." Since the growth of the hole would most likely be fit by y=x^x or some other god-awful function, we'd either be completely safe, or quickly dead.
On the other hand, I am basing this on almost no information. Can anyone point us to a well thought out mathematical model of this?
People with high karma get automatic +1's to any comment they do not specifically designate "No Score +1 Bonus." That's why there is no reason specified for his score.
"about 200.000 KM/s"
uhm, ok, let us review significant figures. You just quoted a number to six decimal places, or one part in 400,000, but prefixed it with the word "about."
It occurs to me that you could be using "." to mean "," but if you want me to accept that, you had better use the correct abbrviation for kilometer, which is km, not KM (Kelvin Mega?).
As others have said, you also oughta be more precise when you talk about light speed in an opaque medium.
Oh come on "-1, troll," it is so obviouly a joke.
Any culture that cannot laugh at itself does not deserve to exist.
Yeah, and when your exhasustive method starts blowing away perfectly legitamate posts because they make reference to the new RIT5 encoding method (or ATA13 drives or something) you'll feel really clever. There is no way you will institute a filter that will catch all trolls and only trolls. Even catching a few trolls and only trolls is a challenge. The best you can do is search for posts that repeat the same long string over and over again. This is the only troll catcher I can think of that isn't likely to start tossing good posts.
"I am pouring hot gr1ts down Natolie Port-man's pertifi3d pa|\|ts!"
A lot of good your troll filter did there, huh?
With over 5,000 students on the net at once in your dorm, hmmmm, i'll take that as an acceptable exageration you'd think you were the only is there an ommited word here? or maybe that "the" was accidentally inserted on a cable modem high on crack. Confused by earlier errors, bailing out.
In other words: could you say that more clearly?
...the idea that you do NOT have an entitlement to recreational internet usage in your college dormitory.
.1% of people who can afford it pay 100X to get a private connection while everyone else gets nothing. Which of these sounds more fair to you?
I think I have said it before, but I'll say it again. Colleges already give students more than they need to survive and study. We have rec centers, snack bars, telephones, bathtubs, a TV on each floor (in some places) and so on. None of these are necessary and all of them cost the school money. So why do they do it? Because they are part of life and they keep people happy. The internet is not all that new and special anymore, it is on its way to becoming fully integrated into "the way life is." In twenty years, the suggestion of limiting bandwidth will sound a whole like a suggestion now of having no telephones or no campus post office.
Unfortunately you do, and you will, until you're in your mid-30s to early 40s. Then life's circumstances will cause you to endorse some of those ideas, as well as provide you with the resources to enforce your own "outdated" ideas on the generation younger than you.
Oh, so it is a vicious cycle and there is no way to fix it, I guess we are all just wasting our time trying to update the world.
You're right! You don't! Rush out right now and purchase a home and your own bandwidth and you won't have any restrictions whatsoever. I would have suggested renting an apartment, but that would entail living under a landlord's outdated ideas as well. You'll still have to contend with outdated community standards, zoning boards, and city, county and state governments, but generally speaking they'll keep out of your way as long as you spread your cash around evenly.
Even ignoring the sarcastic suggestion of bribing everyone in the world in order to live in peace, the amount of money it would take for all college students who want to use the internet to find an apartment and get DSL would be so much larger than the amount of money it takes to simply give them full access to a campus network makes this a silly suggestion. Either everyone pays X to get ethernet, or
I really had forgotten how downtrodden and oppressed our younger generation is..
Please don't call this old argument. I know you walked barefoot twenty miles thru the snow uphill both ways to school (which didn't have an internet connection) everyday, but that doesn't mean we have to. We should be able to benifit from what is avaliable without having to work around unreasonable restrictions to get at it.
We found lots to do -- sports, studying, drinking, sex, and on and on.
Ummmmm, aren't you listening? The woman is advocating strictly single sex rooms as well as restricting internet use. Please don't respond with an argument like "Well, people always have and always will find ways around those rules." the point is that we shouldn't have to live under the rule of people who hold outdated ideas.
Likewise, we don't need to live under the rules of people that think bandwidth is so precious that it should only be used for academic purposes. We don't really need phones either, but the college somehow manages to provide us with them...
Except.... Most large colleges and universities have a fast connection. If I am downloading my porn at 100k/s, that means that someone downloading educational material is also getting about 100k/s. Since most educational material comes in the form of text, this is extremely fast. In fact, for 99% of academic work, I would say that 5k/s is more than sufficient. Given this, there really is no reason to restrict "other" downloads, since they do not significantly hamper "legitamite" ones. Remember also that the avaliable bandwidth has historically increased even faster than CPU speed, so even if it is congested now, wait a bit and it won't be.
Add to this the additional headaches your suggestion would cause. Everyone would have to be educated about the new method and a lot of the non-geeks would take a while to undersatand. I would be pissed that the people who barely touch their computers are wasting an allotment of throughput that I could be using. Sysadmins would have to use valuable hours making sure the bandwidth sharing system was working and that no one was getting around it. Trust me, no one would like it.
It is too bad you know... People describe high school like that and long for the freedom of college. Now there are people trying their hardest to make us describe college the same way. At least we can be assured that such efforts will ultimitly (pardon sp) fail. There simply aren't enough people out there that favor abolition of sex for it to succeed
Great, except you got the numbers wrong. It is 75 cents to the dollar now, not 60. I heard this figure on NPR just this morning. So really the men only get 25 cents, or one third of what the women get. Much worse than you thought, eh?
(To all you people who will misunderstand me: Yes, I am kidding, I understand that he is kidding, please do not flame me for being stupid, at worst, I am failing to be funny.)
Finding primes: The only reasons are fame and money. Do they find anything? Yes, but at essentially random times.
:-).
Finding keys: The only reasons are fame and money. Do they find anything? Yes, at highly predictable times (hence making the actual finding a trivial matter).
Finding extra-terrestrial life: Fame, money(?), one of the greatest scientific and philisophical questions in history answered. Do they find anything? Nope, and they aren't likely to anytime soon for various reasons.
So you can either have useless+sucess or useful+failure.
Someone mentioned a future distributed.net project that was not key cracking and actually had reason for existance. When i am not so tired, I will look into this, but it really looks like the way to go.
Incedentally, I run two copies of Prime95 and the Seti screensaver on a 4 hour delay. Draw conclusions about my personality from that