It was your decision to give stuff away. Don't expect sympathy if somebody tries to screw you by not giving anything back
The one wrong here is you. No one is especting anything back (in fact when SCO was in Caldera times and after it contributed enough). Everybody just expects than no one shall take what's in reality theirs.
P.S. This complaints are taking part in America mostly. By the way isn't in America Innocent until proven guilt. Taking that as a fact, SCO should be sued for FUD, they have proven nothing until now.
US Laws clearly specify that security voulnerabilities should not be discussed with no one but program creator until that matter is solved. There's no free speech just as there ain't free burger at McDonalds.
You can check for example how RH describes security voulnerabilities. First step is:
blah, blah, that I'm not resident of United States, blah, blah, prohibited by law, blah, blah
I AGREE | I DISAGREE
By the way there is a clear description why this is done so.
As for benchmarking results posted by benchmarking companies and sites. Well they have to eat too Second problem are known tools, leads to driver tampering, ok that's not related with food on the table of benchmarkers
Nope, what it would lead to it would be something like that.
Predefined filter in newer mailers: move all mssages where subjects contain adv-adult to folder Personal Folders/Scientific matters against world extinction
and next advertising will be something like protect your self against mom raiding your computer. Use.X.X. mailer
wah, there's too many analysts on both sides. Let them decide who's right and who wrong.
And I doubt SCO got it wrong, so the case where SCO copied rfom Linux seems UNLIKELY at best.
Point taken just as IBM has both source codes and their analysts. I doubt they would be wrong. Hell, somebody's analysts have to be wrong. Either that or wrong interpretation of licences from one of the sides.
Possible missinterpretations: - Derivative work - If it was copied , then who copied and what - Missinterpretation of GPL and providing LInux etc.
As for me I don't care. If there was such copy/paste routine they would just correct and rewrite that code. Btw if you look at small portions updated in cvs that part of being copied much maes that impossible.
It looks from the analysts comments as if the SCO claims have merit. Even a non-programmer can tell that two code blocks are identical. Most likely the code in question was copied and pasted in this case. This is too bad, but it underscores the importance of keeping others IP out of your IP.
Yeah, just as I can show you two pieces of identical code and you'll be able to see that they're identical.
What's more important is: None of the analyst said it was shown historical proof that code belongs to them
# TWO desktop environments with similar capabilities.
So, you've got choice, so what, I always install GNOME only
# Distros that put things in weird places.
Yep I give you that one
# The fact that distros have the freedom to put things in weird places.
Basic word is freedom, as in what GPL stands for
# The fact that 'weird places' means that there are a half-dozen places for binaries to go (/bin,/sbin,/usr/bin,/usr/sbin/, etc...)
Which is well chosen, what and where
#... in fact, I find the whole/usr heirarchy annoying. Why was that necessary? Weren't the six other folders for binaries enough?
Again lack of knowledge
# Don't even bring up/opt!
Well, I use that one for networked apps on server
#...or/usr/share!
Being boring with folder and not intuitive, maybe you should ask for job at SCO
# "User-friendly" management tools with a learning curve that is almost as steep as that for the service or feature they are managing.
Well, which tools, system tools in redhat are simple, but if you take webmin. You can configure a lot, so no pain no gain
# The same goes for script-based management systems.
This is where I started to love linux
# The fact that these tools are necessary so I can cope with the management idiosynchosies and conventions of two dudes in Argentina that have been sysadmins of a UNIX server farm for 16 years.
yep, they are but I don't know about any idiosynchosies
#/root is not under/home.
Well, Sherlok. Ever heard about network home profiles???
# The SH/BASH scripting language. (!!!!)
Again, that's the beautiful and powerful language. But it might take little knowledge, which I really don't expect from you
# Configuration files based on archaic paradigms like the SH/BASH scripting language.
Yeah, no registry, World is beautiful don't you think
# Software that uses configuration files that served as an experiment in parsing for somebody's undergrad senior project. (Therefore, it has a unique, confusing syntax with zero readability and requires one of them there "management tools" I mentioned earlier.... I'M TALKING TO YOU, SENDMAIL!!!!)
Yep, Sendmail is like that, but go with the wind and use qmail or postfix
btw. Menu is now different in 1.3, It's on every picture you have open, which by your definition leads that Photoshop sucks just because for a higher mileage to menu access. And new stacking tool dialogs are way cooler than Photoshop has.
As second Photoshop changed some shortcuts and menu layout from 5.5
Ehere's that better painting tools. I need rotating brush.
Yeah, but GIMP sucks to use when you compare it side-by-side with Photoshop. Sure it can do a lot of the same things, and suffices for most Unix users when there is no better alternative. It still clunks like a square-wheeled rickshaw.
In some other ways Photoshop sucks. I think that sooner or later you'll realize what my post said. Let me explain you in more simple logic. Sometimes you don't need a truck to move one brick. Use the right tool.
If you are a graphics illustrator, you don't use The Gimp.
Thanks for letting me know what I like, didn't know that until you told me.
You use Photoshop. It is the standard
Wake up and smell the coffe. Since when is photoshop illustration standard. It's a prepress standard.
other makes you auction body parts on eBay. (unless you have acquired a copy by other means, which I won't address). If you really NEED Photoshop, then buy it
Thanks I bought two MacOS design collections, for that little PREPRESS WORK I need. I bought them for my two G4s which I really dislike infact hate, and one PC Design COllection which I'm currently testing under wine for a month or so
Thx, but... no Internet connection at home and I'm pleased for that fact that keeps me sane. And really not interested in Suse, as Isaid I didn't liked it.
No you shouldn't. I'm not trying to start some Photoshop-Gimp flamewar.
If Gimp was working satisfactory for you until now, then you don't need CMYK. Which is the only fine line difference between them, and user interface, yes.
I really need only RGB and pictures are not that big. During my tests Gimp proved to be more usable than Photoshop in my range of usage. But there's a clear line, printing professional usage can't include use of Gimp, except in some small cases where illustrations come in question.
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It was your decision to give stuff away. Don't expect sympathy if somebody tries to screw you by not giving anything back
The one wrong here is you. No one is especting anything back (in fact when SCO was in Caldera times and after it contributed enough). Everybody just expects than no one shall take what's in reality theirs.
P.S. This complaints are taking part in America mostly. By the way isn't in America Innocent until proven guilt. Taking that as a fact, SCO should be sued for FUD, they have proven nothing until now.
Face it. Your COMMENT is based on nothing.
It's a long published BSD'ed code. And I'm still wainting for a real PROOF and by the way. You really must HATE Linux as shown in your comment.
P.S. A resonable human would describe you as rocket scientist.
P.P.S. Read facts before you post, IT HELPS
Wait a minute, haven't they said 2.4.13 was the last kernel that didn't infringe any IP????
Thanks, I was always too lazy or too buzy to remeber I wanna do that:)
Well, that kind of exaggerating would be preferable to anybody. The bigger the case, the more stupid this law would look in public.
But major case is really needed in that part, otherwise, lonely suckers will just get screwed.
Wake me up when they get to 10,000,000 lines, then I'll actualy bother my self to look how many lines in kernel really is:)
Neither are they, bet I think they're morr serious about not understanding them selves than you about not understanding them and their stupidity.
They will continue until they'll understand themselves and their stupidity
P.S. I hope I wrote this understanding in some form of understandable matter that would be understandable even to SCO:)
By the way, stupidity is just a formal legal expression of SCO claims
I hope your country is not "that US":)
US Laws clearly specify that security voulnerabilities should not be discussed with no one but program creator until that matter is solved. There's no free speech just as there ain't free burger at McDonalds.
You can check for example how RH describes security voulnerabilities. First step is:
blah, blah, that I'm not resident of United States, blah, blah, prohibited by law, blah, blah
I AGREE | I DISAGREE
By the way there is a clear description why this is done so.
Do it in secret with home made tools.
As for benchmarking results posted by benchmarking companies and sites. Well they have to eat too
Second problem are known tools, leads to driver tampering, ok that's not related with food on the table of benchmarkers
Nope, what it would lead to it would be something like that.
.X.X. mailer
Predefined filter in newer mailers:
move all mssages where subjects contain adv-adult
to folder Personal Folders/Scientific matters against world extinction
and next advertising will be something like protect your self against mom raiding your computer. Use
Now subjetcs will be
adv-adult: Enlarge your penis
Way to go, I just don't know if this way leads somewhere:)
Yeah, since when their three customers count for millions.
And you sir.
No brains to recognise troll. He was obviously trolling, not asking for help. Well I guess nobody's perfect. But you're very far from that.
By the way, you've described me wrong.
wah, there's too many analysts on both sides. Let them decide who's right and who wrong.
And I doubt SCO got it wrong, so the case where SCO copied rfom Linux seems UNLIKELY at best.
Point taken just as IBM has both source codes and their analysts. I doubt they would be wrong. Hell, somebody's analysts have to be wrong. Either that or wrong interpretation of licences from one of the sides.
Possible missinterpretations:
- Derivative work
- If it was copied , then who copied and what
- Missinterpretation of GPL and providing LInux
etc.
As for me I don't care. If there was such copy/paste routine they would just correct and rewrite that code. Btw if you look at small portions updated in cvs that part of being copied much maes that impossible.
It looks from the analysts comments as if the SCO claims have merit. Even a non-programmer can tell that two code blocks are identical. Most likely the code in question was copied and pasted in this case. This is too bad, but it underscores the importance of keeping others IP out of your IP.
Yeah, just as I can show you two pieces of identical code and you'll be able to see that they're identical.
What's more important is:
None of the analyst said it was shown historical proof that code belongs to them
Good thing I use Linux:)
# TWO desktop environments with similar capabilities.
/sbin, /usr/bin, /usr/sbin/, etc...)
... in fact, I find the whole /usr heirarchy annoying. Why was that necessary? Weren't the six other folders for binaries enough?
/opt!
...or /usr/share!
/root is not under /home.
So, you've got choice, so what, I always install GNOME only
# Distros that put things in weird places.
Yep I give you that one
# The fact that distros have the freedom to put things in weird places.
Basic word is freedom, as in what GPL stands for
# The fact that 'weird places' means that there are a half-dozen places for binaries to go (/bin,
Which is well chosen, what and where
#
Again lack of knowledge
# Don't even bring up
Well, I use that one for networked apps on server
#
Being boring with folder and not intuitive, maybe you should ask for job at SCO
# "User-friendly" management tools with a learning curve that is almost as steep as that for the service or feature they are managing.
Well, which tools, system tools in redhat are simple, but if you take webmin. You can configure a lot, so no pain no gain
# The same goes for script-based management systems.
This is where I started to love linux
# The fact that these tools are necessary so I can cope with the management idiosynchosies and conventions of two dudes in Argentina that have been sysadmins of a UNIX server farm for 16 years.
yep, they are but I don't know about any idiosynchosies
#
Well, Sherlok. Ever heard about network home profiles???
# The SH/BASH scripting language. (!!!!)
Again, that's the beautiful and powerful language. But it might take little knowledge, which I really don't expect from you
# Configuration files based on archaic paradigms like the SH/BASH scripting language.
Yeah, no registry, World is beautiful don't you think
# Software that uses configuration files that served as an experiment in parsing for somebody's undergrad senior project. (Therefore, it has a unique, confusing syntax with zero readability and requires one of them there "management tools" I mentioned earlier.... I'M TALKING TO YOU, SENDMAIL!!!!)
Yep, Sendmail is like that, but go with the wind and use qmail or postfix
I was expecting first reaction more like
Darl: I'm deeply dissapointed with reactions IBM made
And fairy tales are real.
I know you're gonna feel frustrated. That doesn't mean real CMYK. If you'd read mailing lists you'd know that's naive CMYK suport.
But next version of GIMP will have Color models that support real CMYK
Following Codeweavers Wine mailing lists:
They announced support for dreamweaver and flash in next release, although I don't know if that means MX versions.
Then maybe you'll be dreaming at day:)
not If you're using pen. Menu is always on hand.
btw. Menu is now different in 1.3, It's on every picture you have open, which by your definition leads that Photoshop sucks just because for a higher mileage to menu access. And new stacking tool dialogs are way cooler than Photoshop has.
As second Photoshop changed some shortcuts and menu layout from 5.5
Ehere's that better painting tools. I need rotating brush.
Yeah, but GIMP sucks to use when you compare it side-by-side with Photoshop. Sure it can do a lot of the same things, and suffices for most Unix users when there is no better alternative. It still clunks like a square-wheeled rickshaw.
In some other ways Photoshop sucks. I think that sooner or later you'll realize what my post said. Let me explain you in more simple logic. Sometimes you don't need a truck to move one brick. Use the right tool.
If you are a graphics illustrator, you don't use The Gimp.
Thanks for letting me know what I like, didn't know that until you told me.
You use Photoshop. It is the standard
Wake up and smell the coffe. Since when is photoshop illustration standard. It's a prepress standard.
other makes you auction body parts on eBay. (unless you have acquired a copy by other means, which I won't address). If you really NEED Photoshop, then buy it
Thanks I bought two MacOS design collections, for that little PREPRESS WORK I need. I bought them for my two G4s which I really dislike infact hate, and one PC Design COllection which I'm currently testing under wine for a month or so
Thx, but... no Internet connection at home and I'm pleased for that fact that keeps me sane.
And really not interested in Suse, as Isaid I didn't liked it.
No you shouldn't. I'm not trying to start some Photoshop-Gimp flamewar.
If Gimp was working satisfactory for you until now, then you don't need CMYK. Which is the only fine line difference between them, and user interface, yes.
I really need only RGB and pictures are not that big. During my tests Gimp proved to be more usable than Photoshop in my range of usage. But there's a clear line, printing professional usage can't include use of Gimp, except in some small cases where illustrations come in question.