I don't see what's so prohibitively expensive about them that puts them out of reach of the middle class.
I'm sorry, why is the middle class supposedly the lower-barrier for government services?? Government services should be available for *all*. Vast majority of people can afford a PC of some kind, and those that can't can use those at the local library.
Not only is the iPhone prohibitively expensive for a large proportion of the population, it shouldn't be a requirement to use government services and shouldn't get preferential treatment with public money.
Yeah, I've had to do this too. It's such a small movement it just seems inevitable that pocketed-while-walking will trigger it. Can't really understand what was wrong with the "press the menu button twice" method from the older Android phones.
What would you rather people be doing? Watching TV? Because that's the choice. This isn't some dichotomy where people come home and either go on Facebook or do something virtuous (like volunteer or create art or cure cancer or whatever).
The Cortex A8, if my numbers are right, idles at about a quarter watt
I don't think that can be right, the numbers don't add up.
My HTC Desire has a 1400mAh 3.7v battery in it, which means there's 5.18Wh in a perfect battery. Even if we assumed that the only power consumption is the battery (ignoring the radio or other electronics), the maximum possible battery life wouldn't even get you though a day.
5.18 / 0.25 = 20.72 hours
Admittedly the phone has a Snapdragon which is only 'similar' to a Cortex, but the maths is suggesting that 0.25W must be out by an order of magnitude.
For a device that's idle most of the time (e.g. a phone), go with Atom
Utter rubbish. ARM idle power consumption is measured in microwatts, and has always been leagues more efficient of anything that an x86 core can do. If Atom is so good, why aren't there any phones based on Atom?
Life is really too short to be idealistic about freaking phone apps.
Why? Of all the electronic devices you use it's probably the one that you carry with you and use the most often. If you're going to have any idealism about any platform, why exclude a phone?
What annoys me more than anything about these stories is that there are lots of people involved in this. There are *FUCKLOADS* of people who decided that this was a fair use of their time, and all went along with it. Yes I can believe that this one Uhler guy was annoyed and wanted to get his own back, but where were all the other people in the organisation telling him that this isn't on?
No wonder the police have a bad reputation. When they act as one impenetrable self-protecting mass, where there rarely seems to be any measured discussion *inside* the organisation, they deserve any reaction they get.
Or, just get your prints done at a professional place. eg bonusprint.co.uk. You have to wait a few days but it's far cheaper and you'll end up with a better, longer-lasting image.
while teams from Boeing and Lockheed-Martin were entrusted with creating supersonic commercial aircraft — passenger planes traveling faster than the speed of sound!
Wow! Supersonic commercial aircraft! We haven't done that ever before!
Job listings I have looked at demand the following skills:
Yeah... but not for a graduate. Or no sane advert that is willing to consider a graduate would ask for most of those. And *especially* if the level we're talking about is A-level and therefore pre-University (18). I think they should use the language most suited for teaching programming concepts, not the one most common on job adverts.
Is this so surprising? There was a time when a University degree was supposed to be about learning concepts and theory, not specific skills. Skills were to be got as an apprentice at a company, companies used to train their new recruits. It seems that employers now just expect a University graduate to emerge with all the skills they need in their particular field and have to do no training. I can't help feeling extremely cynical when I hear companies complain about the quality of graduates when they've rescinded on their part of the bargain pretty completely.
and perhaps they reuse laughs from one take over the top of acting from another take...it's still actually real.
To me that is just as real as using canned laughter that was recorded for a completely different show.
But that's just the language of television. You can't reconcile having a television show with potentially multiple takes, and the typical audience-at-home experience of seeing all the jokes for the first time. If you picked the real laughter from the takes, it would be all over the place as sometimes you'd have a first take where the joke was new and sometimes you'd have a late take where it's not funny anymore.
Well if you find their prices unfair then perhaps as a western country you could manufacture your own SSDs or LCDs? Oh... no... you can't because it would still be much more expensive.
Perhaps we might not like price-fixing, but since manufacturing in the east means the west can take advantage of their far lower cost (and standard) of living so we can have our toys cheaper, I'm willing to cut them a little slack over some price-fixing to (only slightly) redress the balance.
This is part of the problem. If they selectively enforce rules then developers never know where they stand. Just ask all those developers of apps with "overtly sexual content". They were allowed to run and sell and develop a business around these applications for months, and then Apple pulled them with no notice. That's no way to treat people who have invested time and money in your platform.
I do believe I see a wall going up around your 'Android will kill Apple' garden.
Huh? Surely this is the antithesis of Apple's approach, the new store will be in addition to the Google one. Choice, choice! You can use either one, the walled one or the unwalled one!
The difference is (and from this side of the Atlantic seems impossible to consider your point of view) that some people see basic healthcare as a fundamental human right. Something that should be provided by need and not ability to pay.
Most people will need medical treatment eventually, and not everyone can pay the price in the American insurance system. Basic spread of wealth in a capitalist economy ensures that. That a (large) fixed percentage of your population should be allowed to suffer and die seems incredible.
However, I have one major issue... I know so many people in this country who try to game our systems of unemployment and welfare, and quite frankly its rather sad. I really am unsure if the government should take care of these people, as they are already a drain on our society to begin with...
Yup. Why not go all-out and line them up to be shot? I mean that's basically what you're talking about here isn't it? An elitism?
Let the OS handle it, and let the browser interact via plug-ins.
Really? Extend that back, would it be better if there was no JPG renderer, and that was handled by a plugin? GIF too? PNG? All separate from the browser? For a consistent and performant experience, having stuff integrated is good...
This is the way capitalism and and open-and-free market works. If someone it selling a product, then you are free to purchase it. If the product is bad or does not work as promised, then you never use or purchase their product(s) again.
Huh? Really? I was under the impression (in the UK atleast) that if somebody sells you something, then *that thing* is required to work as advertised.
Why should anyone be able to sell you something fraudulently, even once? It's not government nannying, it's called consumer protection. Your argument doesn't scale anyway, if someone sells you a new car and doesn't include an engine, should you not be entitled to some recourse? Just because the value is smaller doesn't change the principle.
Well... exactly. *You* don't have to sign it. It's pretty difficult to consider it a healthy ecosystem if Apple can pull my work (and £thousands of investment) for any reason they want.
Fine, nobody has to sign it. I haven't, I'm working on Android because I believe its important for everyone, including iPhone owners, that Android succeeds. That doesn't make it a good idea for a developer who chooses to, because Apple can burn them badly.
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I don't see what's so prohibitively expensive about them that puts them out of reach of the middle class.
I'm sorry, why is the middle class supposedly the lower-barrier for government services?? Government services should be available for *all*. Vast majority of people can afford a PC of some kind, and those that can't can use those at the local library.
Not only is the iPhone prohibitively expensive for a large proportion of the population, it shouldn't be a requirement to use government services and shouldn't get preferential treatment with public money.
Yeah, I've had to do this too. It's such a small movement it just seems inevitable that pocketed-while-walking will trigger it. Can't really understand what was wrong with the "press the menu button twice" method from the older Android phones.
Thanks for explaining the joke.
How this got through QA is beyond me.
It looks good.
A Lot of wasted time...
What would you rather people be doing? Watching TV? Because that's the choice. This isn't some dichotomy where people come home and either go on Facebook or do something virtuous (like volunteer or create art or cure cancer or whatever).
People have lots of free time. Atleast Facebook means they're engaged in communicating with other people.
http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/010218.html
The Cortex A8, if my numbers are right, idles at about a quarter watt
I don't think that can be right, the numbers don't add up.
My HTC Desire has a 1400mAh 3.7v battery in it, which means there's 5.18Wh in a perfect battery. Even if we assumed that the only power consumption is the battery (ignoring the radio or other electronics), the maximum possible battery life wouldn't even get you though a day.
5.18 / 0.25 = 20.72 hours
Admittedly the phone has a Snapdragon which is only 'similar' to a Cortex, but the maths is suggesting that 0.25W must be out by an order of magnitude.
For a device that's idle most of the time (e.g. a phone), go with Atom
Utter rubbish. ARM idle power consumption is measured in microwatts, and has always been leagues more efficient of anything that an x86 core can do. If Atom is so good, why aren't there any phones based on Atom?
Life is really too short to be idealistic about freaking phone apps.
Why? Of all the electronic devices you use it's probably the one that you carry with you and use the most often. If you're going to have any idealism about any platform, why exclude a phone?
The Mini was always aimed at people who already had a screen and keyboard.
But... that's not the point. The point he's making is that when you factor in those components it makes it massively overpriced for what you get.
What annoys me more than anything about these stories is that there are lots of people involved in this. There are *FUCKLOADS* of people who decided that this was a fair use of their time, and all went along with it. Yes I can believe that this one Uhler guy was annoyed and wanted to get his own back, but where were all the other people in the organisation telling him that this isn't on?
No wonder the police have a bad reputation. When they act as one impenetrable self-protecting mass, where there rarely seems to be any measured discussion *inside* the organisation, they deserve any reaction they get.
Or, just get your prints done at a professional place. eg bonusprint.co.uk. You have to wait a few days but it's far cheaper and you'll end up with a better, longer-lasting image.
while teams from Boeing and Lockheed-Martin were entrusted with creating supersonic commercial aircraft — passenger planes traveling faster than the speed of sound!
Wow! Supersonic commercial aircraft! We haven't done that ever before!
Oh, no, wait, Mach 2 in the 60s...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concorde
Job listings I have looked at demand the following skills:
Yeah... but not for a graduate. Or no sane advert that is willing to consider a graduate would ask for most of those. And *especially* if the level we're talking about is A-level and therefore pre-University (18). I think they should use the language most suited for teaching programming concepts, not the one most common on job adverts.
Is this so surprising? There was a time when a University degree was supposed to be about learning concepts and theory, not specific skills. Skills were to be got as an apprentice at a company, companies used to train their new recruits. It seems that employers now just expect a University graduate to emerge with all the skills they need in their particular field and have to do no training. I can't help feeling extremely cynical when I hear companies complain about the quality of graduates when they've rescinded on their part of the bargain pretty completely.
To me that is just as real as using canned laughter that was recorded for a completely different show.
But that's just the language of television. You can't reconcile having a television show with potentially multiple takes, and the typical audience-at-home experience of seeing all the jokes for the first time. If you picked the real laughter from the takes, it would be all over the place as sometimes you'd have a first take where the joke was new and sometimes you'd have a late take where it's not funny anymore.
Well if you find their prices unfair then perhaps as a western country you could manufacture your own SSDs or LCDs? Oh... no... you can't because it would still be much more expensive.
Perhaps we might not like price-fixing, but since manufacturing in the east means the west can take advantage of their far lower cost (and standard) of living so we can have our toys cheaper, I'm willing to cut them a little slack over some price-fixing to (only slightly) redress the balance.
Apple selectively enforces it's developer rules
This is part of the problem. If they selectively enforce rules then developers never know where they stand. Just ask all those developers of apps with "overtly sexual content". They were allowed to run and sell and develop a business around these applications for months, and then Apple pulled them with no notice. That's no way to treat people who have invested time and money in your platform.
I can't see where in the summary or the article it says that the phones won't also carry the standard Market.
I do believe I see a wall going up around your 'Android will kill Apple' garden.
Huh? Surely this is the antithesis of Apple's approach, the new store will be in addition to the Google one. Choice, choice! You can use either one, the walled one or the unwalled one!
The difference is (and from this side of the Atlantic seems impossible to consider your point of view) that some people see basic healthcare as a fundamental human right. Something that should be provided by need and not ability to pay.
Most people will need medical treatment eventually, and not everyone can pay the price in the American insurance system. Basic spread of wealth in a capitalist economy ensures that. That a (large) fixed percentage of your population should be allowed to suffer and die seems incredible.
However, I have one major issue... I know so many people in this country who try to game our systems of unemployment and welfare, and quite frankly its rather sad. I really am unsure if the government should take care of these people, as they are already a drain on our society to begin with...
Yup. Why not go all-out and line them up to be shot? I mean that's basically what you're talking about here isn't it? An elitism?
Let the OS handle it, and let the browser interact via plug-ins.
Really? Extend that back, would it be better if there was no JPG renderer, and that was handled by a plugin? GIF too? PNG? All separate from the browser? For a consistent and performant experience, having stuff integrated is good...
This is the way capitalism and and open-and-free market works. If someone it selling a product, then you are free to purchase it. If the product is bad or does not work as promised, then you never use or purchase their product(s) again.
Huh? Really? I was under the impression (in the UK atleast) that if somebody sells you something, then *that thing* is required to work as advertised.
Why should anyone be able to sell you something fraudulently, even once? It's not government nannying, it's called consumer protection. Your argument doesn't scale anyway, if someone sells you a new car and doesn't include an engine, should you not be entitled to some recourse? Just because the value is smaller doesn't change the principle.
But what do I know, I mean, I'm not a developer.
Well... exactly. *You* don't have to sign it. It's pretty difficult to consider it a healthy ecosystem if Apple can pull my work (and £thousands of investment) for any reason they want.
Fine, nobody has to sign it. I haven't, I'm working on Android because I believe its important for everyone, including iPhone owners, that Android succeeds. That doesn't make it a good idea for a developer who chooses to, because Apple can burn them badly.