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IT Crowd (UK) Coming Back For Season 4

sammyF70 writes "Every geek's favourite non-sci-fi show (the original UK one, not the abysmally bad German and US remakes) is coming back for a fourth season! According to the IMDB's message board, it should be on the air 'Juneish.' While you wait, you can check out what kind of vintage hardware will be on the show this time, and remember: if you illegally download movies, you will face the consequences!"

165 comments

  1. I'll be sure to set the VVCR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    By which I mean the RSS'd BitTorrent client, and the batch script that passes its products to Handbrake, then loads the transcoded files into iTunes.
    Also, the batch script that restarts iTunes at 5am to force it sync with the iPad and hacked iPod touch attached.

    1. Re:I'll be sure to set the VVCR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Ah yes, the simplicity of the Mac.

    2. Re:I'll be sure to set the VVCR by mikael_j · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Sounds more like a typical *nix user setup, you did know that OS X is a UNIX system, right?

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    3. Re:I'll be sure to set the VVCR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You did know that was a joke, right?

    4. Re:I'll be sure to set the VVCR by SimonTheSoundMan · · Score: 1

      Or you could just use EyeTV, and it will automatically transcode for iPad/iPhone/iPod and then send to iTunes. You only need to sync your iPad.

    5. Re:I'll be sure to set the VVCR by drinkypoo · · Score: 0

      Whooooosh! Missed that one by a mile.

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    6. Re:I'll be sure to set the VVCR by Cylix · · Score: 2, Informative

      Memory is RAM!

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    7. Re:I'll be sure to set the VVCR by Hurricane78 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Pff.

      mldonkey -[query]-> eztv.it -[RSS]-> disk
      fcron -u p2p -[run]-> (dlrss.bash -[RSS]-< disk) -[new torrents]-> mldonkey
      mldonkey -[mail:done]-> me@(sleeping)
      me@(woken up) -[watch:new files]-> homeCinema=(projector + dolby digital 5.1) -[epic]-> WIN

      Better than any TiVo :)

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    8. Re:I'll be sure to set the VVCR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except the bit about transcoding for Apple proprietary software and hacking Apple hardware, it does sound like a pretty typical *nix workflow. The rest of it sounds like a typical Apple workflow.

      There's like a strange kind of doublethink around Apple. Apple hardware/software is cool, because it does what you want, except that it never does and you inevitably have to hack it... and then you, the user, are supposed to be even cooler for having hacked it. So much cooler than you would have been if you just bought hardware that worked for what you wanted to do in the first place.

    9. Re:I'll be sure to set the VVCR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I like the simplicity of using airvideo to serve the video files to my iphone over 3g. Saves space on the iphone, and allows adjustable streaming quality based on network coverage. The only step in the chain that i havent yet worked out how to automate, is to get the files automatically unrared after download.

    10. Re:I'll be sure to set the VVCR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      $ osascript -e 'tell app "iTunes" to update "Device Name"'

    11. Re:I'll be sure to set the VVCR by Nesman64 · · Score: 1

      Remember the good old days when the networks would choose what you could watch, and when? :P

      Netflix + MythTv handles 80-90% of my viewing these days.

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    12. Re:I'll be sure to set the VVCR by mikael_j · · Score: 1

      Of course. However, since OS X is a UNIX system it can hardly be said to be "typical" mac user behaviour to have such a setup, but any UNIX/Linux user who has migrated to OS X would be comfortable with doing things the *nix way and all the tools would be available. Thus the joke fails since it's like laughing at the reliability of a Volvo after someone who designs cars for a living tells of his Volvo that he has modded to make it go 350 km/h but also adds that "it tends to break down every now and then though".

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  2. LOL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nerds!

    That should sum up the entire series.

  3. Favourite? hardly, it's awful by petes_PoV · · Score: 1, Insightful
    I watched one episode of this garbage when it first came out. A few weeks later I accidentally watched a small portion of another episode. Never again. The first one was dire and the second was just as bad.

    One-dimensional, cliched characters that portray IT people as social inadequates. Tacky sets and embarrasingly bad plots (well from a sample size of 2) and utterly forgettable dialog. No thanks.

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    1. Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful by Threni · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I can confirm that this was (is? Jesus - let it go) a crap comedy, and yes I'm talking about the UK version. Cheap, lazy, easy jokes, of the sort that plagued my childhood every saturday evening.

    2. Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I watched one episode of this garbage when it first came out. A few weeks later I accidentally watched a small portion of another episode. Never again. The first one was dire and the second was just as bad.

      One-dimensional, cliched characters that portray IT people as social inadequates. Tacky sets and embarrasingly bad plots (well from a sample size of 2) and utterly forgettable dialog. No thanks.

      They should cut out the jokes and content and just make it a long list of references to things that make the viewers feel intelligent. They could call it "xkcd: The TV Show".

      9:30pm xkcd: The TV Show
      Ep. 4 "More White Knightin'"
      Jen says something intelligent and profound so that
      the female viewers will want to have sex with the
      writer. Moss mentions Maxwell's equation.
      Writer: Randall Munroe Subtitles 888

    3. Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Of course the characters are one-dimensional and cliched. IT Crowd pokes fun at the stereotypes (and not just at the ones about the computer nerds either.) So you don't like over the top British humor. I feel sorry for you.

      Forgettable dialog? Have you tried turning it off and on again? You wouldn't steal a car! Peter File. There are some police men here, they say they need to speak to you about irregularities in the pension fund. Memory IS RAM! I have it on good authority: Never ever type Google into Google! This, Jen, is the internet.

    4. Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Brilliant. If I had to guess, I'd say you were offended by the programme's portrayal of "IT people as social inadequates", which perhaps means you missed the point a little

    5. Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful by NickFortune · · Score: 1

      Brilliant. If I had to guess, I'd say you were offended by the programme's portrayal of "IT people as social inadequates", which perhaps means you missed the point a little

      Possibly. Although satirising the socially inept seems a bit like priding yourself on your skill at boxing against quadriplegics. It's not particularly clever or difficult, at least not unless the person doing it is severely disadvantaged in their own right.

      With the IT crowd, I'd hoped for a show to poke some affectionate fun at IT professionals. And for the first couple of shows, I though they might have got it right. But by the second series, the jokes seemed more spiteful than anything, as if they were trying to appeal to the "I hate computers and I hate computer professionals" demographic.

      Not exactly a cardinal sin, perhaps. but I'm not surprised to find that the show has less than universal acclaim among IT professionals.

      Now if you want a show that got it right, check out "Lab Rats".

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    6. Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful by dangitman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I watched one episode of this garbage when it first came out. A few weeks later I accidentally watched a small portion of another episode. Never again.

      If you have no sense of humor, why were you watching a comedy? I mean, how can anybody not enjoy the character Moss? Forgettable dialog? Yeah right. "You there, computer man. Fix My Pants." is not forgettable dialog.

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    7. Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful by johny42 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      One-dimensional, cliched characters that portray IT people as social inadequates.

      I'd say The IT Crowd takes these cliches to absurd levels, which actually makes them less cliche and more just parody. I believe that if you see through it, they actually make fun of the cliches you mention it, instead of embracing them.

      Now, if you want to see real cliched characters (and storylines), try watching an episode of The Big Bang Theory.

    8. Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful by FuckingNickName · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Although satirising the socially inept seems a bit like priding yourself on your skill at boxing against quadriplegics.

      I've demonstrated social ineptitude in the past and I think one of the healthiest things to do about it is to laugh at myself and not take my fuck-up so seriously. Consider social anxiety: this is often caused by people being told that they should behave in a certain way and take trivial social rituals as of high importance, when in fact there's always the option to play along and not really care - or even not play along and not care.

      As long as you've played fair and tried your best, who cares how you come across? Laugh at the guys who talk the bullshit talk, and laugh at yourself when you try and fail at it - you're fine and those worth being around will not judge you!

    9. Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just read it again with a Moss voice.

    10. Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful by Hitto · · Score: 1

      Both IT crowd and TBBT have their qualities, sheldon and wolowitz (I can never wear a NES controller belt buckle ever again) remind me more of actual nolife geeks i've met than IT crowd's archetypes.

    11. Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful by mwvdlee · · Score: 1

      There's a good reason why certain things become cliché. Being a cliché isn't automatically negative.

      FWIW I enjoy both IT Crowd (especially the first few episodes were pure genius) and Big Bang Theory.

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    12. Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Is that a WHOOSHing sound that i hear?
      Why yes, yes it is.

      The whole point of the show is to poke fun at clichés and 1D character personae.

      Surely you weren't offended by the portrayal of IT types as idiots?
      Tacky sets? That was only the basement set, which was a mess on purpose due to being built around the personality of the characters.
      It showed other IT people as perfectly normal people going about their day as well, in perfectly decent sets in office buildings.

      You can't form a solid opinion on something with such a short exposure time to it, which you admitted.
      All shows also have their "bad" episodes too. Of course, the level of badness is defined by the viewer.
      People like some humor, some hate it, blah blah etc.

    13. Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful by petes_PoV · · Score: 1

      I'd say you were offended by the programme's portrayal

      No. You can only be offended by things you consider to be true - or containing some truth. This show doesn't contain any elements I recognise from my life in IT (and it's been a long one). It's closer to portraying people with a disability and mocking them for it. If that's what you consider humour, I would suggest you seek help. Or at least, don't go around advertising that you think it's funny.

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    14. Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful by sammyF70 · · Score: 1

      weird. This show contains tons of elements I recognise from my life in IT (and it's been quite long too). What do you find amusing then? Fart jokes?

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    15. Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful by NickFortune · · Score: 1

      I've demonstrated social ineptitude in the past and I think one of the healthiest things to do about it is to laugh at myself and not take my fuck-up so seriously.

      Yeah, I'm not saying we shouldn't laugh at ourselves. I just thought there was something mean spirited about the later episodes in this particular show. Maybe it's a sense of humour failure on my part, but I don't think I would have found that funny regardless of the group it was targeting.

      Also ... if you're going to make a satire, pick on the powerful or the wealthy, or the famous. Pick on the guys who believe that the sun does indeed shine out of their backside, and who expect the rest of us to fall down and worship at the altar of their magnificence. Don't pick a couple of pimply social outcases with zero self esteem. It's like pulling wings off a fly.

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    16. Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful by socsoc · · Score: 1

      priding yourself on your skill at boxing against quadriplegics.

      I'm really good at that. It's like they don't even know the proper stance!

    17. Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful by socsoc · · Score: 1

      GP has just never tried turning it off and on again.

    18. Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      boxing against quadriplegics

      That would make a funnier TV show.

    19. Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful by sammyF70 · · Score: 1

      well .. the Internet (s3e4 I think) episode was mostly making fun of share holders and upper management, so you might enjoy it ;)

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    20. Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      So you don't like over the top British humor. I feel sorry for you.

      Define "over the top". I like some Brit humor and not some others myself.

      Forgettable dialog? Have you tried turning it off and on again? You wouldn't steal a car! Peter File. There are some[...]

      None of those quotes stand on their own at all. A funny quote is funny in or out of context. If these are the examples of the finest humor in the show, it's certainly not worth watching. Might as well flip on Family Guy, at least their unrelated gags are funny.

      I haven't seen the show, but "buh huh it has computers" is not sufficient reason to check it out, either, and nothing anyone has said about it is convincing. Anyone care to try a logical analysis of why this show is funny? It's really not an oxymoron.

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    21. Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful by fermion · · Score: 1
      People are entitled to their opinions. I happen to think Are You Being Served is the height of comedy and Seinfeld, though it had some accidentally good shows, is uniformly crap. Different people like different things. Sometimes acting style or language is an issue. I have talked to people who don't like Red Dwarf because they cannot understand what is being said, mostly because they only hired one actor, Chris Barrie, for the show.

      And of course, the Scotsman obsessed with money is an rather old joke, as well as the geek who gets bullied.

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    22. Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful by Cylix · · Score: 3, Funny

      The presenter certainly didn't convey the context in which those quotes are memorable.

      However, based on your responses I'm not sure what you would find humorous.

      We'll look into finding some of the comic strips from the free prizes in cracker jack boxes.

      It's good to start slow and gradually work up to substance.

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    23. Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful by Chris+Tucker · · Score: 2, Informative

      As Mr. Linehan has stated, "This is a British Sitcom. It has nothing whatsoever to do with reality, for example, Goths actually can't cling to the ceiling."

      I suppose you found "Office Space" and "Real Genius" equally unrealistic and unfunny.

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    24. Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful by uglyduckling · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If you watched a small portion, then that explains it. It's a sitcom, a situation comedy. The cheap-shot jokes are there to keep things moving while the situation is being set-up. It's meant to converge in a catastrophic or embarrassing situation. Maybe it's not your thing, but it's the same sort of thing as Fawlty Towers which had silly lines but a great comic climax.

    25. Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful by uglyduckling · · Score: 1

      It's not meant to have funny quotes. It's a sitcom. You have to watch the whole show to see the situation build to a comic climax. That's the whole point. And 'you wouldn't steal a car' is great - check it out on You Tube - it's a really good parody of the guilt-trip copyright messages at the beginning of DVDs.

    26. Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful by mjwalshe · · Score: 1

      [SNIP] With the IT crowd, I'd hoped for a show to poke some affectionate fun at IT professionals. And for the first couple of shows, I though they might have got it right. But by the second series, the jokes seemed more spiteful than anything, as if they were trying to appeal to the "I hate computers and I hate computer professionals" demographic. [SNIP]
      Well in the Uk we like our humor to be actulay funny and it must be said some times cruel political cartooning is much more cutting than the US ones look at Steve Bell vs any US editorial cartoonist even doonsbury can seem a bit tame.

    27. Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      I haven't seen the show

      Perhaps you should change that and come back later, then.

      What do you want me to do? Shall I recite whole dialogs, for example the one about the internet (the WHOLE internet), which is a small, light, wireless black box with a blinking LED, sits on top of Big Ben (because that's where you get the best reception) and has been demagnetized by Stephen "The Hawk" Hawking himself in preparation for Jen's speech, where she will - with the approval of the Elders of the Internet - present it to the higher-ups of the company? That wouldn't even begin to describe the humor though, because it's just the setup of the prank. You'll have to watch it yourself.

      Yes, someone could make a logical analysis of why IT Crowd is funny, but why kill a perfectly good comedy just to know what you've missed out on?

    28. Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful by calzakk · · Score: 1

      One-dimensional, cliched characters that portray IT people as social inadequates.

      Don't you work in IT?

    29. Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful by Trogre · · Score: 1

      I have talked to people who don't like Red Dwarf because they cannot understand what is being said, mostly because they only hired one actor, Chris Barrie, for the show.

      And of course, the Scotsman obsessed with money is an rather old joke, as well as the geek who gets bullied.

      You've never actually watched Red Dwarf, have you?

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    30. Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The IT Crowd ... The Big Bang Theory

      Q. Which came first?

      A. The IT Crowd, by a year. Once again, the US plagiarize a British show...

      Although this time they actually did a good job of it. I mean, The Office, what the f***?! It's like a US version of Monty Python, lol!

    31. Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful by dangitman · · Score: 1

      Yes, people are entitled to their opinions. And I'm also entitled to say that they are wrong, tasteless, or humorless.

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    32. Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful by Cidolfas · · Score: 1

      None of those quotes stand on their own at all. A funny quote is funny in or out of context.

      Do you like or hate Arrested Development? I, for one, find "There's always money in the Banana Stand" hilarious, and it absolutely requires context.

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    33. Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful by gawdonblue · · Score: 1

      I mentioned it once, but I think I got away with it.

    34. Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Cheap, lazy, easy jokes, of the sort that plagued my childhood every saturday evening.

      I haven't seen every episode, but I don't remember any "Eeeee, my mother in law" kind of stuff, nor any "Maggie Thatcher walks into a hospital - ouch! - it was closed" shit either.

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    35. Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful by NickFortune · · Score: 1

      Well in the Uk we like our humor to be actulay funny

      Ah well, I wouldn't know anything about that ;)

      cruel political cartooning is much more cutting than the US ones look at Steve Bell vs any US editorial cartoonist even doonsbury

      Well yeah. And Steve Bell's anger and outrage comes through in every line that he draws. He lashes out against the corrupt and the inept and the pompous. The IT Crowd directs its bile at a couple of guys who major sin is trying to fix computers so the rest of the firm can do their work. It's not like they're trying to defraud the taxpayer or taking hefty backhanders from wealthy businessmen. They're just trying to do their job.

      I can understand Steve Bell's rage against the Establishment. Are the transgressions of the computer support profession on the same level? I wouldn't have thought so.

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    36. Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Steve holt!

  4. !funny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    Every geek's favourite non-sci-fi show

    You have got to be joking because that show certainly isn't, it's about as funny as a wet rag.

  5. There isn't one by mccalli · · Score: 5, Informative

    I was part of the audience the other week for the filming of the last episode for this season. The laughing? It's real, and this season round some of it will be from me.

    Though obviously it takes a long time to film and so things don't flow as seamlessly as the TV episode itself, and perhaps they reuse laughs from one take over the top of acting from another take...it's still actually real. The writer came out to the audience and specifically talked about laugh tracks - he said he filmed in front of a live audience so that a) he was sure enough things were funny and b) because the actors could spark off the reactions.

    I'm not going to give anything away about it, but we saw two episodes - one already filmed and edited, the other was being filmed on the night. They are both great, so tune in and have a watch this time.

    Cheers,
    Ian

    1. Re:There isn't one by houghi · · Score: 1

      and perhaps they reuse laughs from one take over the top of acting from another take...it's still actually real.

      To me that is just as real as using canned laughter that was recorded for a completely different show. The fact that it would be used in the same show does not matter. It is still not laughing about what the audience saw and experienced.

      Not saying that they do that.

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    2. Re:There isn't one by Neon+Aardvark · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I don't care if the laughter is real. I don't need to be told if something is funny. And shows that feel the need to have something "funny" every 10 seconds to justify the regular canned laughter (and yes, it's canned even if it's from the same show but edited and moved around) are invariably as funny as an air-borne Ebola virus outbreak.

      Laughter tracks are hideous plain and simple, and should have died sometime in the mid 1980s.

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    3. Re:There isn't one by jareth-0205 · · Score: 1

      and perhaps they reuse laughs from one take over the top of acting from another take...it's still actually real.

      To me that is just as real as using canned laughter that was recorded for a completely different show.

      But that's just the language of television. You can't reconcile having a television show with potentially multiple takes, and the typical audience-at-home experience of seeing all the jokes for the first time. If you picked the real laughter from the takes, it would be all over the place as sometimes you'd have a first take where the joke was new and sometimes you'd have a late take where it's not funny anymore.

    4. Re:There isn't one by penfold69 · · Score: 1

      I wonder which title they're gonna choose for the episode!

      I was there too - in fact, I went to 3 of the filming sessions and we've got a treat in store for this season :)

      P.

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    5. Re:There isn't one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Depends... I used to watch the German-dubbed version of Married With Children, and there the canned laughter was really repetitive.

      I think it is OK to add laughter, provided it's in places where the studio audience actually did laugh. (i.e. don't add sound to make something funny that isn't)

    6. Re:There isn't one by Rising+Ape · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Laugh tracks are done because laughter is a communal thing - other people laughing at something can make you find it funnier than it otherwise would be. So it's not to tell you that it's funny, it's to make it funnier.

      Of course, none of that excuses bad laugh tracks, or ones done to try to disguise a poor quality programme.

    7. Re:There isn't one by schon · · Score: 1

      I don't care if the laughter is real. I don't need to be told if something is funny.

      Wow, you must be *so* much fun to go to live comedies with!

      I can imagine when the audience laughs at a joke, you start shushing them because you already that it's funny.

  6. funny by dwarfsoft · · Score: 0

    Exactly! Wet rags are Hilarious!

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  7. Well... by dingen · · Score: 4, Funny

    At least it's funnier than The Big Bang Theory.

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    1. Re:Well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      this

    2. Re:Well... by physicsphairy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes, but that is also true of just about any other show, including those that appear on CSPAN.

    3. Re:Well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      At least it's funnier than The Big Bang Theory.

      Thank god.

      My roommates like BBT. I saw an episode and it baffled me. It seems more appealing to people who like to pretend they're not geeks, watch lots of TV, and laugh at "real geeks" for being socially inept.

      Not my cup of tea.

    4. Re:Well... by dingen · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It seems more appealing to people who like to pretend they're not geeks, watch lots of TV, and laugh at "real geeks" for being socially inept.

      Yeah, exactly. It also annoys me the "real geeks" in TBBT don't behave like real geeks at all. For example, in the first episode of TBBT the geeks boast about how many friends they have on MySpace. WTF? That's something a highschool girl would do. A real geek wouldn't be on MySpace in the first place, because they don't like giving up their privacy like that and would tell people who try to lure them into the web 2.0 social networking hype to get off their lawn.

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    5. Re:Well... by Hognoxious · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yes, but that is also true of just about any other show, including those that appear on CSPAN.

      I find some perl programs quite amusing. Oh, wait...

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    6. Re:Well... by dangitman · · Score: 3, Funny

      No, real geeks use FriendFace

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    7. Re:Well... by sammyF70 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You mean, like this?
      IT Crowd is more centered on life at the office than TBBT, and is fairly indiscriminating about who it pokes fun at. Sometimes it's the geeks, and sometimes it's the rest ( see the "Jen, this is the internet" episode). I guess whether you find it funny or not depends a lot about whether you ever worked in such an environment or not. I did, and I love the show for its over the top depiction of stuff that I did experience (or did ).

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    8. Re:Well... by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1

      Hey, I happen to like that show!
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      .
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      Oh, I thought you meant "The Big Wang Theory"...

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    9. Re:Well... by sesshomaru · · Score: 2, Informative

      Here's the cure for that (slightly spoilery if you haven't seen Breaking Bad Season One):

      Breaking Bad: Acid Bath

      (Note: I'm not trying to imply that you should be dissolving your non-geek friends in acid here.)

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    10. Re:Well... by dingen · · Score: 1

      I have seen Breaking Bad and if there's one show out there to deserve the title of "every geek's favourite non-sci-fi show" it should definately be that one! Breaking Bad is by far the most awesome thing on TV right now.

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    11. Re:Well... by jollyreaper · · Score: 1

      At least it's funnier than The Big Bang Theory.

      You hate XKCD too, right?

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    12. Re:Well... by dingen · · Score: 1

      No. XKCD is funny, witty and doesn't care if it loses the mainstream audience by being overly geeky. TBBT is the exact opposite.

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  8. Always amuses me... by 91degrees · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That so many people seem to think there's some sort of objective measure for what is and isn't funny.

    Some people like it. Some people don't.

    1. Re:Always amuses me... by Kenz0r · · Score: 3, Funny

      You're wrong! That's not amusing at all!

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    2. Re:Always amuses me... by revboden · · Score: 1

      If you can watch the scene where Moss kisses Roy so the police will drive past, without laughing... you may be dead. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_a375fMUzVc&feature=channel

    3. Re:Always amuses me... by glgraca · · Score: 1

      Obviously you haven't heard of Comic Maturity Model.

      You are a level 1: you laugh at ad hoc jokes and individual antics of stand up comedians.

  9. Re:Never found it funny by timothy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I found it quite funny, but have the same objection. I wonder if the presence of laugh tracks is a preemptive move; later, they can offer a "regular" version for download, or, for twice the price, one with the laughtrack stripped out. My hopes on that front have dried up, though. I actually like certain sit-coms, but unfortunately for sit-coms they generally include it by default. (Arrested Development in one exception, but not the only one.)

    Related aside: I used to watch the show MASH a lot -- it was my favorite show from a young age (I remember seeing it when the re-runs weren't yet re-runs ...), but seeing the movie on which the TV show is based unfortunately ruined it for me. Not just because I liked the movie's cast better (the show's cast is still well-suited), but because the notably absent laugh track suits the actual mood of the film; the TV version suddenly felt tacky and cheap.

    Now, the IT Crowd is not a socially ponderous, lessons-of-life type show, as MASH tried to be (and, despite it all, succeeded) -- it's a light-hearted farce, comedy of errors and lack of manners, etc. But even so -- no laugh-track should be an option, just like "laugh track" should *not* be an option on The Godfather, Schindler's List, Black Beauty ...

    timothy

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  10. There was a german remake? by bickerdyke · · Score: 1

    Never heard of it. I guess it was really bad.

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    1. Re:There was a german remake? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      There was "Das iTeam - Die Jungs an der Maus", which was a crappy shot-by-shot remake. It was really bad.

    2. Re:There was a german remake? by sammyF70 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Here is a sample.

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    3. Re:There was a german remake? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Do yourself a favor and forget that you heard of it now. Remember: You can't unsee it! There is no German version of the IT Crowd. LALALALALA

    4. Re:There was a german remake? by timothy · · Score: 1

      Awesome YouTube work there ;) Looks like the Germans got a slightly sexier Jen. Even if it's a lacklustre remake, I wish I had more of that one so I could practice my German a bit ... sit-com comprehension provides its own incentive (laughter).

      timothy

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    5. Re:There was a german remake? by bickerdyke · · Score: 1

      I guess I should be glad I missed it. But the original seemed quite good.

      At least they did something right with "Stromberg".

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    6. Re:There was a german remake? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      "LALALALALA"? Don't start infringing on Apple IPs please!

    7. Re:There was a german remake? by Dogtanian · · Score: 2, Funny

      There was "Das iTeam - Die Jungs an der Maus", which was a crappy shot-by-shot remake. It was really bad.

      I don't know why, the Germans normally have an excellent sense of humour ;-)

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    8. Re:There was a german remake? by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Funny

      There was a german remake? Never heard of it. I guess it was really bad.

      Yeah, it focuses on an IBM support team in WWII Germany.

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    9. Re:There was a german remake? by bickerdyke · · Score: 1

      well.. it worked for "Hogans Heroes"...

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    10. Re:There was a german remake? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was called "Worker and Parasite", duh!!

    11. Re:There was a german remake? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're thinking of "Obersalzberg", a sketch series in the "Switch" comedy show. It's a spoof of "Stromberg", the German version of "The Office".

  11. WIsh the show had more bits like that piracy ad by timothy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    a) Though it's case-by-case, I've liked more sit-coms than it's smart to admit. British ones, esp.

    b) As I just wrote in another comment, laugh tracks are obnoxious, but eh, I overlook them generally. When I was small, I thought that they were all recorded from the "live studio audience," but that's just what they *want* you to think.

    c) There's a lot of workplace humor in The IT Crowd that rings true (slightly exaggerated if at all - like managers who don't actually understand the thing they're supposed to "manage," and huge, often willful communication gaps between departments), but I also like the more over-the-top absurdities, like the soul-searching goth (Mason? might have the name wrong) who lives in the back room.

    d) All that said, I wish they worked in more wacky sketch-like stuff like the piracy ad linked in the post.

    timothy

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    1. Re:WIsh the show had more bits like that piracy ad by mccalli · · Score: 3, Informative

      b) As I just wrote in another comment, laugh tracks are obnoxious, but eh, I overlook them generally. When I was small, I thought that they were all recorded from the "live studio audience," but that's just what they *want* you to think.

      See above. The laughing is real, is recorded in the studio and well...I was alive the last time I checked.

      Cheers,
      Ian

    2. Re:WIsh the show had more bits like that piracy ad by spike1 · · Score: 1

      Think you mean Richmond. He wasn't in series 3.
      He got scurvy.

    3. Re:WIsh the show had more bits like that piracy ad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Fun Fact in regard to d) - The guy doing the voice-over on the piracy ad is Peter Serafinowicz (the voice of Darth Maul).

    4. Re:WIsh the show had more bits like that piracy ad by timothy · · Score: 1

      Ha! Read your other comment just after I posted my laughtrack complaints. Sounds like a really fun experience. I think the only TV show I've ever seen being taped is the 700 Club (religious variety show, I guess would be a fair term). Not so thrilling to me.

      Glad to be wrong on that front, though if there's also selective recording / replay of the audience reaction, then I consider myself at least partly right ;)

      Of course, from here, you could be a bot ...

      timothy

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    5. Re:WIsh the show had more bits like that piracy ad by mccalli · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Glad to be wrong on that front, though if there's also selective recording / replay of the audience reaction, then I consider myself at least partly right ;)

      One thing that surprised me was the difference between takes. There'd be different styles, sometimes different dialogue (a lot is improvised, at one point Chris O'Dowd was clearly just making it up on the spot and reducing the writer to fits of laughter let alone us in the audience) - the point of the scene stays the same but there's much more variation than I was expecting to see.

      Perhaps, if they do cut'n'paste laughter from take to take, that's why it sometimes seems out of place? There were a couple of takes I can think of that were for a purely technical reason (shadow was falling in the wrong place) and they repeated that three or four times. Perhaps if they use laughter from take one where it's fresh to us, but then use video from take four where it's technically right then that's why it sometimes sounds out of place. I've no definite knowledge they're doing this, but it would seem to make sense.

      Cheers,
      Ian

    6. Re:WIsh the show had more bits like that piracy ad by Patch86 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      My dear mum went to see an episode being recorded just a few weeks ago. She said that the compère had to ask the studio audience to laugh less, as they didn't want it to sound like an over-the-top laughter track. She said that it was indeed that funny; the audience were in hysterics.

      I enjoy the show; its pleasantly surreal, and makes a few low-key geek references which are worth appreciating. Its not my favourite, but I still watch it when its on.

    7. Re:WIsh the show had more bits like that piracy ad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      do you have a less dear mum also? why the quantitative?

    8. Re:WIsh the show had more bits like that piracy ad by Hal_Porter · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually he's done a lot more than that

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Serafinowicz

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    9. Re:WIsh the show had more bits like that piracy ad by baka_toroi · · Score: 1

      Because he loves her. I'm sorry about your mom raping you with a rake when you were 5.

  12. Re:Never found it funny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    -- no laugh-track should be an option

    MASH on disc has the option to disable the laugh track on some (not all) episodes

  13. Ob by Hognoxious · · Score: 5, Funny

    So they tried turning the show off and then on again?

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    1. Re:Ob by A+Friendly+Troll · · Score: 1

      So they tried turning the show off and then on again?

      Nah, they were still in shock from Jen's destruction of the internet.

    2. Re:Ob by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 1

      So I'm not the only one waiting for a reboot of the series?

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  14. Every geek's favourite non-sci-fi show ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    You're kidding right, the prog is unfunny in the extreme and the writer explididly choose not to include any geek humor. For a real geek comedy show see, The Big Bang Theory

    1. Re:Every geek's favourite non-sci-fi show ? by dangitman · · Score: 1

      For a real geek comedy show see, The Big Bang Theory

      Are you having a laugh?

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    2. Re:Every geek's favourite non-sci-fi show ? by Hal_Porter · · Score: 5, Funny

      Not if he's watching Big Bang Theory.

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    3. Re:Every geek's favourite non-sci-fi show ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      You're kidding right, the prog is unfunny in the extreme and the writer explididly choose not to include any geek humor. For a real geek comedy show see, The Big Bang Theory

      Stupid Flanders...

  15. Re:Never found it funny by Hognoxious · · Score: 2, Interesting

    As I understand it, MASH was broadcast in the UK without a laughter track. I vaguely remember there being complaints when they accidentally showed it with one.

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  16. Re:Never found it funny by Ginger+Unicorn · · Score: 2, Interesting

    good god mash had a laugh track? i only ever saw it without. I imagine the whole thing seems a lot more undignified and lowbrow with a laugh track - like watching "happy days goes to vietnam" or something. On the other hand, the bbc once aired the addams family without the laugh track and every single joke hung in the air like a bad fart. It was extremely uncomfortable to watch.

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  17. Re:Never found it funny by dangitman · · Score: 0, Troll

    But even so -- no laugh-track should be an option, just like "laugh track" should *not* be an option on The Godfather, Schindler's List,

    Are you fucking kidding me? That would be absolutely awesome. Especially for Schindler's List. I mean, who would take that movie seriously in the first place?

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  18. Depressing by Globe199 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    As an IT worker, I found the show more depressing than funny. Too many similarities with my life and theirs.

    1. Re:Depressing by socsoc · · Score: 1

      Thus funny.

    2. Re:Depressing by XCondE · · Score: 1

      Do you find yourself fixing many pants in your line of work?

  19. Re:Never found it funny by FuckingNickName · · Score: 1

    I can see many possible positive interpretations to adding a laughter track to Schindler's List. The Nazis' killing of millions of Jews, gypsies, homosexuals and other deviants[tm] was obviously unacceptable and inhuman (or "very human", if you're appropriately cynical), but Schindler's List is a fictionalisation. Some possible purposes/interpretations might be:

    (1) Experimenting with causing discomfort in an audience by juxtaposing happy emotions with ones of horror;

    (2) Getting the audience to see things from the power-crazed Nazi PoV, no matter how perverse: to a true Nazi, getting rid of Jews was a a positive, enjoyable, productive, thing, and why not smile and be happy while you're doing what you think is the correct thing?

    (3) Questioning the media's exploitation of victims of the Holocaust: was Schindler's List's main mission and/or lasting effect to remind people about the Holocaust, or to make a few media companies richer? Are they laughing at you by publishing this? Couldn't it be a Song for Whoever?

  20. Re:Never found it funny by dangitman · · Score: 1

    ... why not smile and be happy while you're doing what you think is the correct thing?

    Especially when it's springtime.

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  21. Well, my favourite... by 91degrees · · Score: 3, Informative

    Assuming we're talking about comedies that are somehow geek related and aren't sci-fi, would be Spaced.

  22. Re:Never found it funny by FuckingNickName · · Score: 1

    The branch of the linden is leafy and Green,
    The Rhine gives its gold to the sea.
    But somewhere a glory awaits unseen...

    Fascism is dangerous because it can be made so appealing and positive.

    I'm not sure whether this makes me happy or sad for characters like Moss. On the one hand, he'd be completely uninterested in the sort of social ritual that was Nazism. On the other, he might be too singlemindedly unaware to realise the implications of working in the basement of the IBM office which processed the census that was key to efficient execution of the Holocaust.

  23. Wet rags aren't funny.. DAMP on the other hand by way2trivial · · Score: 1
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  24. Re:Never found it funny by Dogtanian · · Score: 0, Redundant

    the bbc once aired the addams family without the laugh track and every single joke hung in the air like a bad fart. It was extremely uncomfortable to watch.

    I strongly suspect that the Addams Family was scripted and acted with pauses for a prominent laugh track in mind, and that's why it sounded awkward without it- waiting for laughter that doesn't come.

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  25. What is IT? by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 0, Troll

    What I am starting to notice is that when I talk about IT, I am talking about programmers, developers. But others are thinking about tech-support which I personally put closer to janitors and such. And no, I don't think low of janitors, but there is a difference between the person who keeps the building running and those who run it. Of course as a web developer lots of "real" developers consider me barely worth stepping on.

    This show is probably funny if you are in a support role and have to deal with the endless clueless users. However if you are a user with a clue and you ever had to deal with clueless tech support not for support but to get them to do their bloody job, it is not so funny. And of course if you are a clueless user, then you will just find it offensive.

    I think the show is "young". It tries to hard. It is like a teenager trying to impress girl by wearing ten different aftershaves at once and buying 100 red roses and a corsage the size of the rainforest. It lacks the flow of older series with more experienced staff. It tries so hard to create stereo-type characters that they lack any normality, any humanity that allows you to sympathize with them, see them as real people, not just caricatures.

    Take the bit about the shoes that are to small. It is to extreme, size 8 in 5? And yet all her other clothes are normal. Certainly a woman that vain would also be putting herself through hell with other parts of her body? The gag doesn't fit in its make believe world. And the problem with that is that while the gag may be funny, gags should be short. We got it, the shoe is to small. Haha. NEXT! Stand-up comedians who do gags quickly switch subjets, think the late night tv monologues, it makes no sense for Jay Leno to whine about his pinto because he would never own one, so don't dwell on it.

    Longer running comedy stories, need to make the world "believable". That is why Porridge and Only Fools and Horses work so well, the characters are not just a bunch of gags in half an hour, but human beings living a life. A funny one, an unlikely one, but "believable".

    The IT Crowd tends to be liked by the kinda people who claim "Every geek's favourite non-sci-fi show" despite clear evidence to contrary.

    It is funny, but funny is easy. Good lasting comedy, that is very very hard and the IT crowd ain't it. It is closer to that kids show you really really liked and then your grow up and wonder how you could every tolerate it.

    Frankly, I am to old to still crack up about how stupid people can be with computers. Yeah yeah, they don't know how to operate a button. I know, the joke has been done. Move on.

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    1. Re:What is IT? by sammyF70 · · Score: 1

      To be honest, I thought about not writing "Every geek's favourite non sci-fi show" in the summary, but then "IT crowd coming back to the screen" sounds a bit lackluster, don't you think? You just need to check the IMDB boards to notice that it's NOT "Every geek's favourite non sci-fi show".
      I worked in all three categories ( maintenance, Web dev and ~real~ programmer (c++ mainly), and I guess you are right that if you worked in IT support, a lot of the situations just make more sense. On the other hand, the show isn't particularly one-sided. It pokes fun at both ends Roy going on a date, Jen being given "Ze Internet"), and I actually liked the "shoe" episode, as it somehow reminded me of previous girlfriends who had fixations on footwear (and the resulting finale with the japanese investor was fun). As with everything, it boils down to a matter of taste.

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    2. Re:What is IT? by socsoc · · Score: 1

      What I am starting to notice is that when I talk about IT, I am talking about programmers, developers. But others are thinking about tech-support which I personally put closer to janitors and such

      What if it's a small shop and the same people both run the building and keep it running. How does that fit into your uppity view of IT?

    3. Re:What is IT? by DannyO152 · · Score: 1

      Bad news, everybody, unlike with "Futurama," the lead sentence does not write itself.

      You have my sympathy and it's times like these that I call upon the power of IT, Instant Tautology. If and only if one is a geek, than one's favorite non-sci-fi show is "The IT Crowd." Not your favorite non-sci-fi, not a geek, ipso facto, and please stand over there with the nerds or the norms. Thenk you.

      Thinking about comedies, episodes of Monty Python, I Love Lucy, The Mary Tyler Moore Show, WKRP in Cincinnati, SCTV, Seinfeld, Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In have been as funny as the funniest of "The IT Crowd." One wonders if a single person having many months to write 3 hours per season makes a difference when ranking it among situation comedies in which teams of writers had a few weeks to write 10-13 hours. How would one compare "The IT Crowd" to a favorite drama or mini-series?

      Then again, it certainly occurs to me that picking apart a harmless bit of hyperbole is tres geeky.

    4. Re:What is IT? by sammyF70 · · Score: 1

      Actually, even with Monty Python's Flying Circus, provided Graham Chapman rose from the dead, I'm rather sure that a slashdot article titled "The Best UK show ever is coming back!" would be greeted with "who cares? never understood it!" comments. Still, let me apologize if you felt left out of the "geek" crowd by my, as you put it so accurately, hyperbole which was, in all probability, the result of personal excitement.

      On a side note : I'm not a big fan of Futurama, so I just ignore the articles about it

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    5. Re:What is IT? by dangitman · · Score: 3, Interesting

      What I am starting to notice is that when I talk about IT, I am talking about programmers, developers.

      That's interesting, because the very last thing I would think of when confronted with "IT" is programmers and developers. When I hear "IT" I think of mindless middle-management and bureaucracy. It's such a meaningless term. It could mean anything from an abacus lubricator to a librarian.

      Why would a programmer want to be associated with such a term? Programming has much more in common with mathematics and writing. After all, it is the mastery of languages and numbers. It deserves a much higher station than "IT."

      IT is basic janitorial work.

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    6. Re:What is IT? by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      What I am starting to notice is that when I talk about IT, I am talking about programmers, developers. But others are thinking about tech-support which I personally put closer to janitors and such.

      Wow, you're an asshole.

    7. Re:What is IT? by cheekyboy · · Score: 1

      1. isnt it called ITS now.
      2. isnt all janitor work basic.
      3. IT is really more like HR for technology, TR more like it.

      Developers/programmers are more in the game of implementing business logic/processes into working automated systems/applications.
      We developers are like god, we create digital life, the things that do the magic that mere mortals could never create.

      Muwhahaha

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    8. Re:What is IT? by dangitman · · Score: 1

      1. isnt it called ITS now.

      I don't really give a fuck what it's called anymore. I never liked "IT" in the first place, it was always a meaningless bullshit term. "Information Technology" could mean a pencil, for fuck's sake. An IT worker could be someone who operates a pencil sharpener. And it's only gotten worse since they tried to think up more "clever" initialisms.

      2. isnt all janitor work basic.

      Perhaps, but some clogged toilets could get pretty complicated pretty quickly.

      3. IT is really more like HR for technology, TR more like it.

      I might have some witty response if I knew what "TR" meant, other than "table row" or "Total Recall."

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    9. Re:What is IT? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Speaking as someone who is firmly in IT (Desktop Engineer), the humor works for me because developers see us as janitors, tech support see us as having a better job than them, and typical users see us as having a "god complex" that gets them out of messes they create therefore they must tolerate us. It is true to life, therefore it is true-to-life humor.

      Many of the things IT work hard on all categories see as irritating. For example, patch night. My dept does all of our windows patching once per month. We test out all of those patches with both our internal IT group, and a small test group FOR WEEKS. We have not had a business affecting patch in 3+ years because of this system. Yet despite 3 company wide warnings per each patch night, both the sales people and engineers are frustrated with equal vitriol every time we do it. All for half an hour of downtime.

      Wait until we get a virus or a hardware failure that loses *YOUR* work. Then everyone says "IT sucks." Fuck you and your ego buddy.

      I can't count on both hands how many engineers have screwed up and lost their OWN work, then tried to blame it on IT. Good thing everyone in my company knows I do my job well. In each of those primadonna developer situations I discussed the issue with their department heads and it takes me 3 minutes or less because those department heads know I can be trusted. Often times, they trust me more than their own people.

      And FYI, if I ever start to feel like a janitor type person, I find a new job.

      IT is a thankless job. And you probably don't like your IT folks because they don't appreciate your attitude and go all BOFH on your ass. If any of my users treat me anything like a janitor, I do not go above and beyond for them. Treat me like a janitor, you get janitor grade service. I always provide the expected service and have plenty of CYA for those situations, but people who treat me like an equal love me because I kick ass for them and they know it.

  26. Dweebs by hack++slash · · Score: 1

    Great to hear The IT Crowd is returning for a new series, but does anyone know where I can get a copy of the 1995 tv show Dweebs?

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    1. Re:Dweebs by socsoc · · Score: 1

      Call Mr. WB and ask for his archives? Although since only 6 eps aired, they probably threw everything into the bin.

  27. AWESOME by arndawg · · Score: 1

    I really miss douglas' faaaaaaaaaaaaatheeeeeeeer

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  28. 4 series to poke fun at stereotypes? by petes_PoV · · Score: 0, Troll

    IT Crowd pokes fun at the stereotypes

    You could do all of that in 1 episode and still have time left over to make a comedy programme, too.

    To go on for 4 series with one trivial theme (IT people == socially inept == funny) shows a lack of originality and laziness in the writing. Surely anyone with an ounce (or 28.5 grams) of discernment would say "Yes, we've got it. Now what else have you got to make me laugh?" after the first few minutes ... and would have switched over before the end of the half-hour slot. It's only a single "joke" and that the same small number of people are still laughing at it after 4 years of watching it be recycled every episode makes me thing they'll laugh at anything.

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    politicians are like babies' nappies: they should both be changed regularly and for the same reasons
    1. Re:4 series to poke fun at stereotypes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Call the whambulance: 0118 999 881 999 119 725 3

    2. Re:4 series to poke fun at stereotypes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Cheers : People living in a bar == drunk == effing funny yay
      MASH : docs in Korea == drunk and basically boring life == funny!
      Seinfeld : People living in flats == boring life == FUNNY!

      Besides, you never really watched IT Crowd, did you? Some of the topics covered in 4 (*SIX* (not 24!) episodes long seasons) : Shoe obsession, privatised emergency services, illegal downloads, smoking restrictions, good guy/bad guy dating, gay musicals, Technological Inaptitude of management ("this is the internet, Jen"), transgender, sexual harassment, ... Not all of it was good, but what was good was generally brilliant.

    3. Re:4 series to poke fun at stereotypes? by mjwalshe · · Score: 1

      no the show is about working in a bigish firm same as the office isn't about making paper and dilbert isnt on the whole about technology a lot of dilberts gags could apply to any workplace.

  29. The US Remake by VGPowerlord · · Score: 1

    the original UK one, not the abysmally bad German and US remakes

    I don't know about the German remake, but I thought the US remake got canned during the 2008 Writer's Strike.

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  30. US Version? by socsoc · · Score: 1

    There was only a pilot filmed for the US, never aired. The German one only aired 2 episodes. Although the UK version is great, you're not comparing apples to apples subby. You wanna do that? Let's talk the The Office.

    1. Re:US Version? by sammyF70 · · Score: 1

      heh .. yeah, I only saw the pilot too (obviously). To my great shame, I must confess I never saw any version of The Office. Care to talk about "Life on Mars" ? ;)

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    2. Re:US Version? by ThatsNotFunny · · Score: 1

      The first ten minutes of the US version pilot is floating around youtube. It's PAINFUL to watch. It's like kissing your sister.

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    3. Re:US Version? by mjwalshe · · Score: 1

      yes they showed a clip of the American Dads army pilot recently on the BBC they tried to do and that failed.

    4. Re:US Version? by Kozmik · · Score: 1

      Was there ever a copy available of the US Pilot? I've been looking for a long time. Would appreciate any pointers on where to look.

  31. Re:Never found it funny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    godwinned.

  32. Re:Never found it funny by nanoakron · · Score: 1

    I never realised until you just said it but yes, I don't recall ever having heard a laughter track whilst watching MASH over here.

    God, it must be awful with one...

  33. Re:Never found it funny by dangitman · · Score: 1

    godwinned.

    Is that when God wins? It's not really surprising. He makes the rules, after all.

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  34. Favorite IT Crowd Quote by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 1

    "Damn these electric sex boots!"

    1. Re:Favorite IT Crowd Quote by daveime · · Score: 1

      You must have watched an outtake.

      The quote is actually "God damn these electric sex pants".

    2. Re:Favorite IT Crowd Quote by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 1

      You're right, that was a brain fart. IIRC he wore boots and had electric sex pants.

  35. Re:Never found it funny by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    I just dug out the series 1 box set, bought in Belgium and sitting in a drawer ever since. According to the box it has "Francais, Anglais and Anglais, piste des rires."

    I'm afraid to even try it!

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  36. Re:Never found it funny by aussie_a · · Score: 1

    Especially when it's springtime.

    Can you imagine Shindler's List to the soundtrack of this song?

  37. USA Version by radioid · · Score: 3, Informative

    Thank god they didn't air the American version of the show.

    1. Re:USA Version by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What I can't understand is why they would try to reshoot/remake the show for the US? Why can't they just air the original UK version in the US?
      Do they actually think people can't understand different accents or accept foreign humour? (If that were true, the Harry Potter films would've tanked at the box office in the US)
      UK networks play US shows all all the time, infact for many of them that's the bulk of their programming. Although I do notice that a lot commercials originally shot in the US get dubbed over with English accents (very very badly).
      The only network in the US that seems to have the balls to air UK programmes (or programmes from any other country) is PBS.

  38. Re:Meh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh look, he's socially awkward, it's funny! Oh look, that was a silly situation, it's funny! Oh look, stereotypes, it's funny!

    It's Three's Company with computers. Blah.

  39. The US version is "abysmally bad"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm not sure how you personally made that determination, considering it never aired.

  40. On netflix by Yoik · · Score: 1

    First few seasons anyway. Instant play or dvd. Easy enough to check out if you subscribe. Now on my instant queue.

  41. Re:Meh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh look, I'm having an orgasm!

  42. Re:There was a US remake? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nonsense, everyone knows the Brits do comedy better than the Yanks.

    Nothing beats Monty Python, Fawlty Towers, The Office, and Only Fools And Horses (I suspect you've not heard of the latter if you don't live in the UK?).

  43. American version? by antdude · · Score: 1

    Did that ever get aired or leaked online? I never saw it. I read it was awful.

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  44. real geeks don't get Big Bang Theory by vaporland · · Score: 1

    In the development shop where I work, the project managers love Big Bang Theory, but the developers don't think it's funny at all. Nobody likes seeing their ox being gored...

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