The problem with Linux guys is that they use Linux because of its robustness, and an OS that *ever* *needs* a reboot because of memory leaks simply isn't robust.
I'll probably get flamed for this, but I think a large portion of Linux advocates are just like a large portion of <anything> advocates: they are people who blindly try to follow what the intelligent people are doing, so they can look and feel intelligent too. Of course, they often miss the REASONS why intelligent people act a certain way and do regally stupid things that make the real intelligent people look bad. (I know I've done that, though I tend to notice it later.)
Get used to most people being stupid in one way or another. --------
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It goes the other way, too. I've seen crappy programmers who are so proud of their code they think it's worth millions of dollars, and they don't want to let anyone see it. --------
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FPS games are much more fun on a LAN with 8 or more of your friends. Single-player FPS games are boring, as are network games with a small number of players you can't yell across the room at. --------
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it was time to do the windows equivalent of using
dkpg, hit windows update
Buckling in pain.Please refrain from comparing dpkg to Windows Update as if they're almost the same thing. It just hurts. --------
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...which is interesting, because many European languages (including English) use the male gender as a male AND indeterminate gender. Now it's just confusing as hell.
"Why mailman?"
"Why _NOT_ mailman?" --------
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Not really. I've seen some code written by disciplined programmers that I would say is perfect. So I think software had bugs because of a lack of programmer discipline. I think most people will agree that it's possible to make a perfect function (i.e. it does exactly what it's supposed to do, handling all possible errors, etc). It's also possible to make every function perfect. Therefore, it is possible to make an entire program perfect. I've done it with smaller programs (nothing I've released yet) and I intend to do it again with a larger one I'm beginning to write (it's an XMMS replacement).
Anyway, I agree with everything else you said. That's just a pet-peeve of mine. --------
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Exactly how does one ensure that the person claiming to be the copyright holder is such? How does one account for works in the public domain, not uploaded by their authors?
If I perform PD music, I don't want Napster Inc. bothering me just because a lot of my fans want to trade it over Napster -- what if I refuse? --------
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I'm not really sure, but it seems to me requiring the contents of an aim.exe for compatibility would, under Copyright law, legalize the free distribution of those contents for the purpose of compatibility. We had part of ICQ, why not all of AIM?
Can someone actually look this up in the laws of various countries? --------
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The last time I checked, almost all CDs were "copyright protected". Remember, it's copy protection not copyright protection.
Copyright protection comes from the law. Copy protection comes from technology.
(It should really be called copy hindering. CP has been proven countless times to be impossible. "Here, I'll encrypt something and then give you the keys. That'll stop you from using the data!") --------
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HTML isn't programming. It's "declaring" or "writing", but not programming. You don't need the discipline, the logical thought process, or the math skills you do for procedural/functional programming. --------
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The end result id natural language programming. You literally tell the computer what you want it to do, and its
amazing compiler will produce perfect code.
Bzzt! Sorry, wrong. The only way that will happen is if we suddenly get artificial consciousness (AI) that understands what we're trying to tell it. Otherwise, that will just bring bad, horribly inefficient programs into the industry (like is happening already to a great extent). --------
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I guess, but it's quite conceivable that they could have, and would only have been (legally) granted the patent once it was done in software. --------
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Yeah, but that's because all the GIMP users use the gimp-nonfree package with the GIF and TIFF compression in it. --------
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A patent can be granted in the US if the process that is happening in software is an old process, but not in software. And
a patent can be granted for "frivoulous" innovation because the line for innovation has not been clearly drawn. --------
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By default, when you try to do the "forbidden" things with xpdf, it will pop up a dialog saying something along the lines of "author has requested that you not be allowed to do that, use -ignoreperms to do it anyway". Using the said switch will shut off the "protection" checks.
That way, xpdf will serve the user, and the user will have been warned, so any copyright infringements after that will be the user's own problem.
Is everyone satisfied now? Jeeze! --------
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However, it might be a good idea to put a separate package in non-us since the DMCA might make it a crime for
Americans to exercise their fair use rights (but remember that it's still not a copyright violation).
That would only strengthen the new "law". The more people who acknowledge a law, the stronger it gets. --------
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Oh shut up and quit making a big deal out of nothing.
The only way this will become a big deal is if people like you talk as if this is a big, bad thing being done.
And it's about time that the rest of the world decided not to obey the really dumb U.S. laws. Some U.S. laws, I can understand, but definitely not the DMCA. --------
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DebianPlanet seems to be slashdotted, but I've checked my debian-devel mailing list archive, and that seems to be what it going to happen. --------
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Slashdot Mirror
The problem with Linux guys is that they use Linux because of its robustness, and an OS that *ever* *needs* a reboot because of memory leaks simply isn't robust.
I'll probably get flamed for this, but I think a large portion of Linux advocates are just like a large portion of <anything> advocates: they are people who blindly try to follow what the intelligent people are doing, so they can look and feel intelligent too. Of course, they often miss the REASONS why intelligent people act a certain way and do regally stupid things that make the real intelligent people look bad. (I know I've done that, though I tend to notice it later.)
Get used to most people being stupid in one way or another.
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It goes the other way, too. I've seen crappy programmers who are so proud of their code they think it's worth millions of dollars, and they don't want to let anyone see it.
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Genius dies of the same blow that destroys liberty.
FPS games are much more fun on a LAN with 8 or more of your friends. Single-player FPS games are boring, as are network games with a small number of players you can't yell across the room at.
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Buckling in pain. Please refrain from comparing dpkg to Windows Update as if they're almost the same thing. It just hurts.
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...which is interesting, because many European languages (including English) use the male gender as a male AND indeterminate gender. Now it's just confusing as hell.
"Why mailman?"
"Why _NOT_ mailman?"
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Short answer:
s/All/Most/
[Too ]Long answer:
Not really. I've seen some code written by disciplined programmers that I would say is perfect. So I think software had bugs because of a lack of programmer discipline. I think most people will agree that it's possible to make a perfect function (i.e. it does exactly what it's supposed to do, handling all possible errors, etc). It's also possible to make every function perfect. Therefore, it is possible to make an entire program perfect. I've done it with smaller programs (nothing I've released yet) and I intend to do it again with a larger one I'm beginning to write (it's an XMMS replacement).
Anyway, I agree with everything else you said. That's just a pet-peeve of mine.
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Exactly how does one ensure that the person claiming to be the copyright holder is such? How does one account for works in the public domain, not uploaded by their authors?
If I perform PD music, I don't want Napster Inc. bothering me just because a lot of my fans want to trade it over Napster -- what if I refuse?
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I'm not really sure, but it seems to me requiring the contents of an aim.exe for compatibility would, under Copyright law, legalize the free distribution of those contents for the purpose of compatibility. We had part of ICQ, why not all of AIM?
Can someone actually look this up in the laws of various countries?
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The last time I checked, almost all CDs were "copyright protected". Remember, it's copy protection not copyright protection.
Copyright protection comes from the law. Copy protection comes from technology.
(It should really be called copy hindering. CP has been proven countless times to be impossible. "Here, I'll encrypt something and then give you the keys. That'll stop you from using the data!")
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GNOME and KDE are both WAY too fat to be deemed standards and all others dropped.
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HTML isn't programming. It's "declaring" or "writing", but not programming. You don't need the discipline, the logical thought process, or the math skills you do for procedural/functional programming.
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Not only that, but have you seen some of their code? Sheesh! I find it *extremely* rare to find good HTML code anywhere.
And how many of those website cracks have been due to a poorly-written CGI?
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Bzzt! Sorry, wrong. The only way that will happen is if we suddenly get artificial consciousness (AI) that understands what we're trying to tell it. Otherwise, that will just bring bad, horribly inefficient programs into the industry (like is happening already to a great extent).
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I guess, but it's quite conceivable that they could have, and would only have been (legally) granted the patent once it was done in software.
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RSA. It's just simple math, but because it's being done by a computer, it gets a patent.
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So a patent on the Windows API wouldn't be a threat?
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Yeah, but that's because all the GIMP users use the gimp-nonfree package with the GIF and TIFF compression in it.
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I'll quote another poster here.
A patent can be granted in the US if the process that is happening in software is an old process, but not in software. And a patent can be granted for "frivoulous" innovation because the line for innovation has not been clearly drawn.
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Maybe so, but that doesn't change his point.
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A one-click warm-up device for a car is not a piece of software, nor a business practice.
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Here's what the consensus at Debian seems to be:
By default, when you try to do the "forbidden" things with xpdf, it will pop up a dialog saying something along the lines of "author has requested that you not be allowed to do that, use -ignoreperms to do it anyway". Using the said switch will shut off the "protection" checks.
That way, xpdf will serve the user, and the user will have been warned, so any copyright infringements after that will be the user's own problem.
Is everyone satisfied now? Jeeze!
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That would only strengthen the new "law". The more people who acknowledge a law, the stronger it gets.
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Oh shut up and quit making a big deal out of nothing.
The only way this will become a big deal is if people like you talk as if this is a big, bad thing being done.
And it's about time that the rest of the world decided not to obey the really dumb U.S. laws. Some U.S. laws, I can understand, but definitely not the DMCA.
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DebianPlanet seems to be slashdotted, but I've checked my debian-devel mailing list archive, and that seems to be what it going to happen.
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