Please re-read the quote, there is no claim of execution performance. The quote was entirely about the time it takes for a proficient hacker to write a program in the three languages.
I don't think you fully grok what they have achieved. Google employs only a handful of people who work on Go, and probably not all them work full time on it (though maybe that's not true lately in the last release cycle).Let me give you a quote from an accomplished (hint, you use his code every day) C & C++ hacker on using Go:
"In my experience Go is probably 5-10x faster than C or C++. I estimate that programs that take me half an hour to write in Go would take me about 2½ hours in C and 5 hours in C++."
Then when you only have to wait about 10 seconds or so for the whole Go std library *and* all your own libs and binaries to build, you can see it's value over waiting for large C++ projects (of which Google has many) to build.
The style, or your preference for a particular style, is not important in the least. What's important is the consistency. Really... *nobody* cares what style *you* prefer.
YaST package management is lightning fast now, I'll wager faster than any apt based tool.
How YAST/Zypper became fast
Package management using zypper, is probably faster and more memory efficient than any other linux package management tool.
How efficient zypper really is
openSUSE is a now generations ahead in package management. In my not so humble opinion.
Right sure. Except all the other roads that lead elswhere, and unless you hadn't noticed theres a 5 lane motorway running straight up to Google HQ at the moment.
This wont help MS in the search wars at all but being able to double the audience of your target ads overnight ( MSN + AOL portal ) certainly doesn't harm the ad revenue bottom line.
This statment of fact rather neatly illustrates why more younger people these days are lacking in plain ordinary social skills. You know... the kind a 12 year old *should* start picking up as soon as they leave primary school and start socialising with their teenage peers.
Sure the relative anonymity can be liberating but online socialising should *never* replace the healthy amount of physical socialising thats probably required for mental well being. We all probably spend too much time online ( IRC anyone? ), but up until now most of us had already matured to adulthood and gained these necessary skills before we started wasting the hours away online. What happens to the new net generation when they hit adulthood and cant interact on a basic human level?
And I have to call bullshit on this. You have to stop deluding yourself that a mac is anything other than a bunch of average and very generic components, none of which are made by Apple themselves. Apple is just a design company selling yesterdays cool to gullible consumers and profesionals who are too stuborn to face the reality of cheaper, faster and more powerfull generic PC's. You can't even argue that the best software is on the Mac any more.
You are paying too much money for average ( yet overpriced ) parts in a glossy case. Get over it.
You know what? Suse is the distro that actually did make me cut the windows cord. The only thing i missed for a while was playing some games, but since I discovered cedega that's a no brainer now too.
Windows free and proud.
Why dont you spend a little bit of time fact finding instead of opening your mouth and letting the verbal diarrhoea dribble out.
Here are some facts for you to consider.
MySQL is compliant for data types specificed in standards except for a few instances. INTERVAL (partial), which is optional. Some difference in the date and time arithmatic. MySQL has a workaround for CLOB/NCLOB, NCHAR and NCHAR VARYING, converts them to CHAR and VARCHAR, but these aren't core items. MySQL, along with some other databases trim trailing spaces. Boolean is not supported, but not part of the core SQL. UDT is is non-core.
Character sets and collation features are well beyond the core spec, and far beyond most other DBMS.
SQL standard says that "table1" should not be equal to Table1 (ie "select column1 from Table1"). MySQL doesn't respect this
MySQL supports all operators in the core.
Subqueries are requred for core SQL compliance, important that it is available in 4.1.
All core joins are supported and some additional. Only join not supported is FULL JOIN, which is optional.
All constraints supported except CHECK, which is core (the only core feature that MySQL doesn't support). FOREIGN KEY has support, but have to be careful to create using index and specific column in primary key table. It works, but the syntax to create isn't exactly what the standard specifies.
Transaction control is supported, but want to keep MyISAM tables for speed in the cases where transactions arent necessary.
Set (or aggregate) functions work as specified. There is one case where a warning isn't delivered. MySQL is good at errors and OK, not so good at warnings. SQL standard requires warning very infrequently.
MySQL still needs to work on these issues to accomplish core compliance ( SQL-2003 ):
- schemas (container for tables) - very close
- select * from INFORMATION_SCHEMA.tables
- views
- grant and revoke - filled intent of standard, not necessarily exact - the security needs of MySQL demand some changes, but the core
- CHECK clause
- SQLSTATE - done in 4.1
The great MySQL Caveat - things we won't do
1. Change C-like syntax additiona
2. Add something that makes MySQL slower in default install
3. Change case sensitivity for identifiers
4. Add errors for illegal assignments
Features that are extensions of core SQL (all non-core SQL:2003):
- IDENTITY
- FLOOR, CEILING
- CASE
- CAST
- PROCEDURE
MySQL is conformant to 92, 99 and goes a long way towards SQL-2003 conformance. More so than most RDBMS and certainly more so than postgresSQL.
I would expect that the majority of the US and Canada will continue to buy more 'full on gas guzzzlers' as opposed to these not so smart cars. We've had them in Europe for a while and they really haven't made a big impact here, even with the more green and liberal thinking that we have.
Why? welll like i say, they really arent that smart. Selling cars that reduce the amount of co2 is always a worthwhile thing however you cannot substitute sensible, flexible and economically sound public transport policy for the automotive industry's equivalent of the 'light/lite' cigarette. Not that most of the tax payers in the western hemisphere care anyway, that's why we still buy and love the freedom of our cars.
Make no mistake, car sharing and long distance travel is pretty much unviable in these things so understandably they only really get bought in urban areas. Mostly smart cars are seen and viewed as a posher and wankier version of the scooter. Mercedes would be thrilled if everyone in the city bought one; I'm not so sure our planet would be
Cool? not...
Disclaimer: I'm not a 'manc', I'm Scottish
Of the top of my head... There was some discussion and research done a while back to establish what sort of symbolic warning to future generations we could use on the surface above extremely hazardous waste such as long half-life radiactive material. The idea of using a lot of large monolith type needles came up, these were supposed to be truly massive and the idea was to convey 'dont dig here', or something.
It seems pretty sensible to at least try and warn future generations about an area such as a geologic waste depository but what if the warning signs get misconstrued? If we ever wipe our selves out, which is more than likely in my opinion, then would the next round of intelligent life understand what we ment? Might not such a legacy raise the same kind of curiosity that we have and lead to some archealogical dig only to get themselves zapped...
"Soon cellphone owners will be able to play games with realistic three-dimensional graphics rivaling those on PC's and game consoles"
So apart from shit screen size and terrible interface for games of any sort, I really dont expect to see a GPU that will scale down that well and not require massive cooling and a ridiculous amount of power anytime soon.
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I was quoting Russ Cox
Please re-read the quote, there is no claim of execution performance. The quote was entirely about the time it takes for a proficient hacker to write a program in the three languages.
Just skip through the tour: http://tour.golang.org/ until you find something interesting to play with.
I don't think you fully grok what they have achieved. Google employs only a handful of people who work on Go, and probably not all them work full time on it (though maybe that's not true lately in the last release cycle).Let me give you a quote from an accomplished (hint, you use his code every day) C & C++ hacker on using Go:
"In my experience Go is probably 5-10x faster than C or C++. I estimate that programs that take me half an hour to write in Go would take me about 2½ hours in C and 5 hours in C++."
Then when you only have to wait about 10 seconds or so for the whole Go std library *and* all your own libs and binaries to build, you can see it's value over waiting for large C++ projects (of which Google has many) to build.
// It is an unreasonable way to calculate pi.
At least one does: http://googleblog.blogspot.fr/2011/05/japan-prize-honors-googler-ken-thompson.html
So write in Go and import the C libs.
And what you consider non trivial must be very different from the rest of the world if all you ever do is reach for python.
The style, or your preference for a particular style, is not important in the least. What's important is the consistency. Really... *nobody* cares what style *you* prefer.
What's the point in that? Go is very expressive. Just write in Go instead of Python.
YaST package management is lightning fast now, I'll wager faster than any apt based tool. How YAST/Zypper became fast Package management using zypper, is probably faster and more memory efficient than any other linux package management tool. How efficient zypper really is openSUSE is a now generations ahead in package management. In my not so humble opinion.
Mod me down, whip me with a birch branch, tar & feather me, debag & raddish me...
Whatever you will but please mod the parent up.
Right sure. Except all the other roads that lead elswhere, and unless you hadn't noticed theres a 5 lane motorway running straight up to Google HQ at the moment.
Search no, advertising yes.
This wont help MS in the search wars at all but being able to double the audience of your target ads overnight ( MSN + AOL portal ) certainly doesn't harm the ad revenue bottom line.
yes quite.
Extend, embrace, divide, conquer
I couldn't agree with you more.
This statment of fact rather neatly illustrates why more younger people these days are lacking in plain ordinary social skills. You know... the kind a 12 year old *should* start picking up as soon as they leave primary school and start socialising with their teenage peers.
Sure the relative anonymity can be liberating but online socialising should *never* replace the healthy amount of physical socialising thats probably required for mental well being. We all probably spend too much time online ( IRC anyone? ), but up until now most of us had already matured to adulthood and gained these necessary skills before we started wasting the hours away online. What happens to the new net generation when they hit adulthood and cant interact on a basic human level?
And I have to call bullshit on this. You have to stop deluding yourself that a mac is anything other than a bunch of average and very generic components, none of which are made by Apple themselves. Apple is just a design company selling yesterdays cool to gullible consumers and profesionals who are too stuborn to face the reality of cheaper, faster and more powerfull generic PC's. You can't even argue that the best software is on the Mac any more.
You are paying too much money for average ( yet overpriced ) parts in a glossy case. Get over it.
You know what? Suse is the distro that actually did make me cut the windows cord. The only thing i missed for a while was playing some games, but since I discovered cedega that's a no brainer now too. Windows free and proud.
Why dont you spend a little bit of time fact finding instead of opening your mouth and letting the verbal diarrhoea dribble out.
Here are some facts for you to consider.
MySQL is conformant to 92, 99 and goes a long way towards SQL-2003 conformance. More so than most RDBMS and certainly more so than postgresSQL.
I would expect that the majority of the US and Canada will continue to buy more 'full on gas guzzzlers' as opposed to these not so smart cars. We've had them in Europe for a while and they really haven't made a big impact here, even with the more green and liberal thinking that we have.
Why? welll like i say, they really arent that smart. Selling cars that reduce the amount of co2 is always a worthwhile thing however you cannot substitute sensible, flexible and economically sound public transport policy for the automotive industry's equivalent of the 'light/lite' cigarette. Not that most of the tax payers in the western hemisphere care anyway, that's why we still buy and love the freedom of our cars.
Make no mistake, car sharing and long distance travel is pretty much unviable in these things so understandably they only really get bought in urban areas. Mostly smart cars are seen and viewed as a posher and wankier version of the scooter. Mercedes would be thrilled if everyone in the city bought one; I'm not so sure our planet would be
Cool? not...
Disclaimer: I'm not a 'manc', I'm Scottish
That suprises me, all the HP mice I have ever come across in all my years ( a lot ) were manufactured by Logitech.
Of the top of my head... There was some discussion and research done a while back to establish what sort of symbolic warning to future generations we could use on the surface above extremely hazardous waste such as long half-life radiactive material. The idea of using a lot of large monolith type needles came up, these were supposed to be truly massive and the idea was to convey 'dont dig here', or something. It seems pretty sensible to at least try and warn future generations about an area such as a geologic waste depository but what if the warning signs get misconstrued? If we ever wipe our selves out, which is more than likely in my opinion, then would the next round of intelligent life understand what we ment? Might not such a legacy raise the same kind of curiosity that we have and lead to some archealogical dig only to get themselves zapped...
So apart from shit screen size and terrible interface for games of any sort, I really dont expect to see a GPU that will scale down that well and not require massive cooling and a ridiculous amount of power anytime soon.
What a stupid article. What a stupid submission.
linux is for bitches