Nature may be inherently unfair which is why we must beat fairness into humanity. Chain up those who do not behave fairly. If humanity is to survive without major self-inflicted catastrophe, we must stamp out competitiveness and self-interest. The best way for humanity to live is in peaceful cooperation to move the entire civilization forward. We have not achieved this and are currently doomed to failure. Especially the United States, where self-interest is nearly a religion.
Goto any pre-civlization hunter-gatherer group and ask the men there what age they prefer in a mate. They'll say "Between Puberty and First Child."
Actually, he's more likely to say "Uuuggh!!!" before bopping you over the head with a crude mallet andthen taking your pasty skinny carcass back to the cave as a trophy. The "Uuuggh!!!" translates to: "He's not for us! He must be against us!";P (Remeber, I take no one and nothing seriously on Slashdot)
Let's clarify. I think you meant to imply that you can grab sources and compile most free/open software (ie."linux sotware") on Mac OS X. Right? If not, then you need to re-read the parent poster's comment. He actually USED a Mac with Linux and liked it.
Oh come now. Superman is clearly faster than The Flash. In Superman the Movie (1977) with Christopher Reeve, Superman revolves around the Earth in a reverse rotation causing time to move backwards. The best The Flash could do is run around in circles on the Earth itself which would have all the effect of a grape hitting a bowling ball. Get your priorities in line man!;p (Please note: I take nothing on Slashdot, or the rest of the world, that seriously.)
It's not the cliched one liners themselves that are funny. It's you! When you folks get so worked up about seeing the cliche one liners, we people who post them just sit and laugh at the outrage. Laugh, it's funny!;P
I hope these claythings are self cleaning. There's going to be lot's of Windows (exhibitionists), BSD (necropheliacs) and Linux (afraid of girls) fans wanting to get their hands on this technology. (I'm an equal opportunity offender);P
With the word "Rampage" I was reminded of that fabulous 80s video game where giant apes, rats and dragons climb buildings and punch them to pieces. I was hoping that a robot grew gigantic in size due to a passing meteor and starting punching a hospital to pieces. How come nothing exciting like that ever happens on Earth anymore? I'm starting to think about leaving this planet and going back home again.
...I repeat, we have normality. Anything you still can't cope with is therefore your own problem.
Oh sorry, that should have been:
"Quantum behaviour is governed by probabilities. Before something has actually been observed, there are a number of possibilities regarding its state. But once its state has been measured those possibilities shrink to one - uncertainty is eliminated." -- the "normality bit";P I'm such a kidder.
I recently took OpenBSD for a spin and I'm still working with it. It might be a secure OS, but it's not a desktop OS. To be even more specific it's not useful for the kinds of things people like us want to do:
1. Media Centers/PVRs 2. Gaming systems 3. Home Application Servers
True, as Theo said, they have a tough time getting the specs from the hardware manufacturers, but... so does the Linux camp. So what does a Linux developer do about drivers when someone won't open the spec? They reverse engineer. What do the BSD developers do? They mount a campaign to agressively persue the hardware manufacturer to the point of publically stating that the company sucks (I speak of the recent Adaptec fiasco). Neither approach is really going to make the hardware manufacturer happy. But, the Linux developer's approach is, at least, going to give the users something to actually use.
Why did I choose OpenBSD to play around with? Because it's supposed to be the most secure BSD. I want my desktop to be running on the most secure OS. Everyone should want that. But usability-wise, OpenBSD is just not there yet. It has no graphical installer and a bizarre double layered partitioning scheme. It doesn't support LVM (which all useful OSes should support these days). And recently, I was curious to see if I could get a Hauppague PVR-250 video capture card to work under OpenBSD... I wasn't able to find any info. But it's well supported under Linux thanks to the IvyTV project.
The point is that for those of us who got sick of Windows and it's problems, we moved to Linux because it was a lot easier than the BSDs and provided us with most of the same functionality of Windows without the problems. Linux now matches Windows in feature set 100%. Anything Windows can do, Linux can do. However, there is still one major limitation to Linux: you have to be VERY careful about what hardware you buy. Most of the time, the cheaper hardware won't work in Linux because half of it is implemented in software. I learned my lesson the hard way a few times and these days I check for Linux support before I buy. With OpenBSD the situation is worse. The supported hardware of OpenBSD is much smaller than that of Linux. This is not the fault of the Linux developers, it is the fault of the hardware manufacturers for not opening specs. While I respect Theo and all the work his crew has put into making a really secure OS, he needs to acknolwedge that fact that there are more things you can do with a computer than just running a secure server OS.
Personally, I'd even call for a project to fork OpenBSD so that there would be a desktop distro and an embedded distro. It's obvious that Theo is an angry guy. And rightly so. The hardware manufacturers should have no problem giving out specs in order to gain a much larger user base. But Theo needs to make sure that his anger is directed at the right people. The Linux crowd is not the reason that OpenBSD is having trouble getting hardware specs.
Let's build a kernel around the Gecko engine!!! Boot into Firefox on a framebuffer!!!! The ultimate intarweb terminal! In the process we accomplisht the following:
1. No more monolithic Linux kernel or proprietary Windows kernel! 2. No more mach kernel because they're slow dontchaknow 3. We get rid of X Windows and replace it with Gecko, Javascript, CSS and Mozilla chromes 4. No more clunky X Windows network transparency because nobody uses it anyways. Now all graphic connections will happen in memory instead of going out over the network to the router and back in to the machine they went out of! 5. No more ability to run servers (because only crackers and pirates do that) 6. Google searches become embedded in teh OS like Microsoft plans to do in Pot Noodle Hornlong! 7. A driving instructor somewhere in Johanessberg gets his job back mate!
So... you're implying that companies that have drivers for the hardware that specs aren't being released for (ie. Microsoft) are in the dark as well? That explains a lot about Windows.;P
The answer is: Who cares? This isn't a business site, it's a tech site. Get with the program. If I wanted opinions about who is going to buy Google, I'd look to the Wall Street Journal. (Which I wouldn't since I hate business anyway)
Why do so many people on Slashdot have an interest in business when this is a TECHNOLOGY site. That's right. This is a site where TECHNOLOGY is discussed. Not business. Not lame gadgets for wannabees. TECHNOLOGY.
Considering the more useful applications of nanotech, don't you think it's a little suspcious that the only people who would actually wear nanopants are geeks? Think this is coincidental? Think again. You know that suit that works in the corner office? Well, he and his compatriots are getting sick of the fact that these days nerdas make better lovers. We're getting the girls and they're losing out. So, they've devised this clever marketing ploy to make sure that geeks and nerds get themselves into a pair of nanopants just because they're "geek chic". They plan to make sure that geeks don't get a chance to reproduce even if they do wind up with a good looking hottie. Why are they doing this? To ensure that the future is full of conservative business people and not those dirty liberal and libertarian geek types. Beware the nanopants!!!
Frankly I think one of the funniest brticoms I've seen lately is Black Books. A close second is My Family (reminds me of the 80s family based sitcoms but with a British edge).
...that needs to be done on the data entry side of things before this can really work.
Personally, I don't see how this is going to work with things like pictures and audio files. Not to mention proprietary files that might be harder to parse and categorize. If you have digital images from a digital camera in JPEG format, EXIF data could be searched. But think about how much useless data is in the EXIF portion of a JPEG. If someone types "Candy and Me in Waikiki Last Year" as their search, is the EXIF data for the picture they want to find going to actually contain that information without them having to enter it?
What about MP3 and Ogg Vorbis files? You can store all kinds of information about the file in their tags, but again, the user has to do this at some point. Think about the number of word processor documents named "Untitled-10.doc" or whatever default the application provides.
And what about files that don't have any facility for storing useful metadata that can help assist a search like this? Standard WAV? Basic AVI?
If anything, the OS is going to have to force the user to input identity information that goes beyond a user id, password, first name and last name in order to stick signatures in files. And that still only resolves the issue of files moving from one system to another. It doesn't help with files on the same system.
Applications will have to force users to enter decent metadata for files that aren't text based. And... we're always going to have the problem of people filling in those forced entry fields with garbage and then not being able to retrieve their file later.
Once you start talking peripherals and gadgets that generate data (digital cameras, digital music players for example) of their own without any useful way to input metadata, this really becomes messy. If speech recognition were made to be much more accurate than it currently is, *maybe* these sorts of devices could force the user to name their photos verbally before uploading to their computer. Still iffy if you ask me...
Ummm... tablet PCs?;P Actually, I've gotten a chance to use one long term here at work and it's OK as long as the stylus doesn't malfunction. The one I got wound up getting really touchy and interpretting the slightest motion as a series of multiple clicks. Really annoying.
On a more related note, back in 1988 when I first started working with GUIs, I felt that they helped me become much more productive. Of course, at the time I was doing 3D CAD stuff and composing music almost full time. Very little typing required for either of those tasks. However, after I got a job in IT officially in 1997, I started working with CLI more and more. I find that I write better and faster in a streamlined text editor like Emacs (start the flame war) than I do in Word or OpenOffice.org Writer. Most of the time I write everything in Emacs and then read the resultant TXT file into OpenOffice.org Writer and format later. But I will say that I've noticed that with the resolution increases, mouse input devices have become less efficient. Back when my top resolution was 640x400 (Atari ST monochrome) It was easy to hit menus and icons spot on. These days the mouse pointer seems to be much harder to position because it hasn't really grown in relation to the higher resolutions. So I find myself just missing a menu or clicking the adjacent window widget more frequently than I did in the old days. Maybe what we need is larger mouse pointers and better active areas on GUI objects...
I think a lot of folks in the for-profit world of software are trying to create discord by pitting Mac OS X *nix against Linux *nix and vice-versa. Keep in mind that technically, *nix is *nix. But practically and economically, Mac OS X is targetted at a different set of people than Linux and BSD. Don't let all of these new Apple on Intel stories make you think that Mac OS X is going to take anything away from the Linux and BSD crowds. Mac OS X can do nearly all the things that the other two *nix like OSes can except: be given away without charging money. That is what attracts most non-*nix people to Linux and BSD in the first place. Once they really get into it, then they see little reason to switch with the exception of the gloriously beautiful UI that Apple has on it's desktop.
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Nature may be inherently unfair which is why we must beat fairness into humanity. Chain up those who do not behave fairly. If humanity is to survive without major self-inflicted catastrophe, we must stamp out competitiveness and self-interest. The best way for humanity to live is in peaceful cooperation to move the entire civilization forward. We have not achieved this and are currently doomed to failure. Especially the United States, where self-interest is nearly a religion.
Actually, he's more likely to say "Uuuggh!!!" before bopping you over the head with a crude mallet andthen taking your pasty skinny carcass back to the cave as a trophy. The "Uuuggh!!!" translates to: "He's not for us! He must be against us!" ;P (Remeber, I take no one and nothing seriously on Slashdot)
Let's clarify. I think you meant to imply that you can grab sources and compile most free/open software (ie."linux sotware") on Mac OS X. Right? If not, then you need to re-read the parent poster's comment. He actually USED a Mac with Linux and liked it.
Oh come now. Superman is clearly faster than The Flash. In Superman the Movie (1977) with Christopher Reeve, Superman revolves around the Earth in a reverse rotation causing time to move backwards. The best The Flash could do is run around in circles on the Earth itself which would have all the effect of a grape hitting a bowling ball. Get your priorities in line man! ;p (Please note: I take nothing on Slashdot, or the rest of the world, that seriously.)
It's not the cliched one liners themselves that are funny. It's you! When you folks get so worked up about seeing the cliche one liners, we people who post them just sit and laugh at the outrage. Laugh, it's funny! ;P
I hope these claythings are self cleaning. There's going to be lot's of Windows (exhibitionists), BSD (necropheliacs) and Linux (afraid of girls) fans wanting to get their hands on this technology. (I'm an equal opportunity offender) ;P
With the word "Rampage" I was reminded of that fabulous 80s video game where giant apes, rats and dragons climb buildings and punch them to pieces. I was hoping that a robot grew gigantic in size due to a passing meteor and starting punching a hospital to pieces. How come nothing exciting like that ever happens on Earth anymore? I'm starting to think about leaving this planet and going back home again.
...I repeat, we have normality. Anything you still can't cope with is therefore your own problem.
;P I'm such a kidder.
Oh sorry, that should have been:
"Quantum behaviour is governed by probabilities. Before something has actually been observed, there are a number of possibilities regarding its state. But once its state has been measured those possibilities shrink to one - uncertainty is eliminated." -- the "normality bit"
I recently took OpenBSD for a spin and I'm still working with it. It might be a secure OS, but it's not a desktop OS. To be even more specific it's not useful for the kinds of things people like us want to do:
1. Media Centers/PVRs
2. Gaming systems
3. Home Application Servers
True, as Theo said, they have a tough time getting the specs from the hardware manufacturers, but... so does the Linux camp. So what does a Linux developer do about drivers when someone won't open the spec? They reverse engineer. What do the BSD developers do? They mount a campaign to agressively persue the hardware manufacturer to the point of publically stating that the company sucks (I speak of the recent Adaptec fiasco). Neither approach is really going to make the hardware manufacturer happy. But, the Linux developer's approach is, at least, going to give the users something to actually use.
Why did I choose OpenBSD to play around with? Because it's supposed to be the most secure BSD. I want my desktop to be running on the most secure OS. Everyone should want that. But usability-wise, OpenBSD is just not there yet. It has no graphical installer and a bizarre double layered partitioning scheme. It doesn't support LVM (which all useful OSes should support these days). And recently, I was curious to see if I could get a Hauppague PVR-250 video capture card to work under OpenBSD... I wasn't able to find any info. But it's well supported under Linux thanks to the IvyTV project.
The point is that for those of us who got sick of Windows and it's problems, we moved to Linux because it was a lot easier than the BSDs and provided us with most of the same functionality of Windows without the problems. Linux now matches Windows in feature set 100%. Anything Windows can do, Linux can do. However, there is still one major limitation to Linux: you have to be VERY careful about what hardware you buy. Most of the time, the cheaper hardware won't work in Linux because half of it is implemented in software. I learned my lesson the hard way a few times and these days I check for Linux support before I buy. With OpenBSD the situation is worse. The supported hardware of OpenBSD is much smaller than that of Linux. This is not the fault of the Linux developers, it is the fault of the hardware manufacturers for not opening specs. While I respect Theo and all the work his crew has put into making a really secure OS, he needs to acknolwedge that fact that there are more things you can do with a computer than just running a secure server OS.
Personally, I'd even call for a project to fork OpenBSD so that there would be a desktop distro and an embedded distro. It's obvious that Theo is an angry guy. And rightly so. The hardware manufacturers should have no problem giving out specs in order to gain a much larger user base. But Theo needs to make sure that his anger is directed at the right people. The Linux crowd is not the reason that OpenBSD is having trouble getting hardware specs.
Let's build a kernel around the Gecko engine!!! Boot into Firefox on a framebuffer!!!! The ultimate intarweb terminal! In the process we accomplisht the following:
;P
1. No more monolithic Linux kernel or proprietary Windows kernel!
2. No more mach kernel because they're slow dontchaknow
3. We get rid of X Windows and replace it with Gecko, Javascript, CSS and Mozilla chromes
4. No more clunky X Windows network transparency because nobody uses it anyways. Now all graphic connections will happen in memory instead of going out over the network to the router and back in to the machine they went out of!
5. No more ability to run servers (because only crackers and pirates do that)
6. Google searches become embedded in teh OS like Microsoft plans to do in Pot Noodle Hornlong!
7. A driving instructor somewhere in Johanessberg gets his job back mate!
Man am I thirsty!
...that Be is going to be switching from PowerPC to Intel in order to not be left behind Apple. ;P (1998 is calling)
So... you're implying that companies that have drivers for the hardware that specs aren't being released for (ie. Microsoft) are in the dark as well? That explains a lot about Windows. ;P
The answer is: Who cares? This isn't a business site, it's a tech site. Get with the program. If I wanted opinions about who is going to buy Google, I'd look to the Wall Street Journal. (Which I wouldn't since I hate business anyway)
Why do so many people on Slashdot have an interest in business when this is a TECHNOLOGY site. That's right. This is a site where TECHNOLOGY is discussed. Not business. Not lame gadgets for wannabees. TECHNOLOGY.
Of course posting this is like talking to a wall.
I can't type (nerdas) and you can't do an A HREF: "http://slashdot.org/ahref=". Let's get married. ;P
Seriously. I'm just a kidder. I kid because I love...
Considering the more useful applications of nanotech, don't you think it's a little suspcious that the only people who would actually wear nanopants are geeks? Think this is coincidental? Think again. You know that suit that works in the corner office? Well, he and his compatriots are getting sick of the fact that these days nerdas make better lovers. We're getting the girls and they're losing out. So, they've devised this clever marketing ploy to make sure that geeks and nerds get themselves into a pair of nanopants just because they're "geek chic". They plan to make sure that geeks don't get a chance to reproduce even if they do wind up with a good looking hottie. Why are they doing this? To ensure that the future is full of conservative business people and not those dirty liberal and libertarian geek types. Beware the nanopants!!!
Frankly I think one of the funniest brticoms I've seen lately is Black Books. A close second is My Family (reminds me of the 80s family based sitcoms but with a British edge).
...that needs to be done on the data entry side of things before this can really work.
Personally, I don't see how this is going to work with things like pictures and audio files. Not to mention proprietary files that might be harder to parse and categorize. If you have digital images from a digital camera in JPEG format, EXIF data could be searched. But think about how much useless data is in the EXIF portion of a JPEG. If someone types "Candy and Me in Waikiki Last Year" as their search, is the EXIF data for the picture they want to find going to actually contain that information without them having to enter it?
What about MP3 and Ogg Vorbis files? You can store all kinds of information about the file in their tags, but again, the user has to do this at some point. Think about the number of word processor documents named "Untitled-10.doc" or whatever default the application provides.
And what about files that don't have any facility for storing useful metadata that can help assist a search like this? Standard WAV? Basic AVI?
If anything, the OS is going to have to force the user to input identity information that goes beyond a user id, password, first name and last name in order to stick signatures in files. And that still only resolves the issue of files moving from one system to another. It doesn't help with files on the same system.
Applications will have to force users to enter decent metadata for files that aren't text based. And... we're always going to have the problem of people filling in those forced entry fields with garbage and then not being able to retrieve their file later.
Once you start talking peripherals and gadgets that generate data (digital cameras, digital music players for example) of their own without any useful way to input metadata, this really becomes messy. If speech recognition were made to be much more accurate than it currently is, *maybe* these sorts of devices could force the user to name their photos verbally before uploading to their computer. Still iffy if you ask me...
I read it. Pure crap. Thoroughly disproven by several other studies as well. Just rubbish.
Correction:
cat conCATenates files. But yes... sed edits. It's just not close enough to the metal.
Ummm... tablet PCs? ;P Actually, I've gotten a chance to use one long term here at work and it's OK as long as the stylus doesn't malfunction. The one I got wound up getting really touchy and interpretting the slightest motion as a series of multiple clicks. Really annoying.
On a more related note, back in 1988 when I first started working with GUIs, I felt that they helped me become much more productive. Of course, at the time I was doing 3D CAD stuff and composing music almost full time. Very little typing required for either of those tasks. However, after I got a job in IT officially in 1997, I started working with CLI more and more. I find that I write better and faster in a streamlined text editor like Emacs (start the flame war) than I do in Word or OpenOffice.org Writer. Most of the time I write everything in Emacs and then read the resultant TXT file into OpenOffice.org Writer and format later. But I will say that I've noticed that with the resolution increases, mouse input devices have become less efficient. Back when my top resolution was 640x400 (Atari ST monochrome) It was easy to hit menus and icons spot on. These days the mouse pointer seems to be much harder to position because it hasn't really grown in relation to the higher resolutions. So I find myself just missing a menu or clicking the adjacent window widget more frequently than I did in the old days. Maybe what we need is larger mouse pointers and better active areas on GUI objects...
ed! You visigoth! cat and echo are the only editors worth speaking of. ;P
You're right. It should be a kernel oops. Or more likely a nucleic oops. (Not Nukyelaeic as you "nukyelar" idiots should be saying)
I think a lot of folks in the for-profit world of software are trying to create discord by pitting Mac OS X *nix against Linux *nix and vice-versa. Keep in mind that technically, *nix is *nix. But practically and economically, Mac OS X is targetted at a different set of people than Linux and BSD. Don't let all of these new Apple on Intel stories make you think that Mac OS X is going to take anything away from the Linux and BSD crowds. Mac OS X can do nearly all the things that the other two *nix like OSes can except: be given away without charging money. That is what attracts most non-*nix people to Linux and BSD in the first place. Once they really get into it, then they see little reason to switch with the exception of the gloriously beautiful UI that Apple has on it's desktop.
And this one:
Sound suspiciously like Roland Pipaquelle fans. What say YOU!?
Another way of puting it:
"Does not the desert need the glacier? Does not the mountain need the storm? Does not your scrotum need kicking?" - Beavis