Sure, lots of individual file "take downs" happens every day, but the only thing i have heard that is close to a site block, is when the DOJ kills a site, but its not really the same thing.
I agree, it seems odd that this guy is talking about it but no one else has heard of it ( here in the US at least ). Makes the entire post suspect.
Ok, its OT, but since when did US courts start mandating blocking of sites by ISPs?
Back on topic, it should not be hard to come up with the numbers and present it to management. Forget the 'it will be a bad idea' as it will only make you look disgruntled and biased, all they care about is raw numbers.
True, but bits dont weigh more ( ie, cost any more to deliver ) because they came from Netflix instead of direct from Comcast. Nor does the post office deliver a box slower than an envelope.
And while we all hate Comcast and want them to be gone, what about who takes their place? Who says they wont be any less abusive of their customers, and perhaps even worse? Don't blindly wish for 'change', as you might just get what you are asking for, and regret it.
I disagree they facilitated anything as they were a public blog. If you want to pretend copyright law matters, then you should be addressing this with the people actively sharing without permission.
But to answer the question: To me it does not mater what the topic is on a discussion board, its free speech. If TPB was storing said 'infringing' files, then we could have a discussion about their legal status in the matter. But they were not, so we wont.
Do you have any idea how stupid you sound when you make such statements. You lose all credibility when you act like facilitating crime isn't in and of itself a crime. Google accidentally linking to some files is one thing. TPB exists entirely on the premise of facilitating copyright infringement. Thats different.
Do you have any idea how much of a fascist that makes you sound when you make such statements?
The simple fact is they were not facilitating. They offered a *public* blog, with content not under their control. Tho i may disagree with the premise, at least if you want to be consistent, you would go after the users that are actively sharing. Until then, its people discussing, which is free speech as far as i'm concerned.
Or some trumped up charges that they can make stick? Running a site based on user content, ( remember they didn't house any files ) should not be considered a crime.
They really did nothing more than lets say, Slashdot..
Um, i would rather have it with the commercial entities, they want to make sure they can make more money from me in the future, the government just wants to take it all and redistribute.
No, its not useless but it is pointing out the obvious to many who dont realize it.. Often times in these situations each side does blame the other 100%, when the reality is both sides need to 'man up' and accept some responsibility.
If this would happen, it would save a lot of time, and money by avoiding long drawn out and expensive litigation. ( which in the end its really our money, the consumer and citizen )
That isn't exactly what i meant, that if you disagree with me on booth that i dont want to hear it, its a general statement. Yes, its worded poorly, i really should fix it, but i have been lazy.
Just to add,. the main reason i posted the Booth blurb, is to make people think about what patriotism really is, and how history is rewritten by the victors. If the south had one, he would be a hero, much as Washington was an evil 'terrorist' to the British, but we won, so hes a hero. If we had lost, our view of history would be far different.
You are the first person that has taken the time to read and comment intelligently and didn't just pull the "race card", which really had little to do with what as going on in the first place. I commend you for using your brain, you sir are in the minority.
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Sure, lots of individual file "take downs" happens every day, but the only thing i have heard that is close to a site block, is when the DOJ kills a site, but its not really the same thing.
I agree, it seems odd that this guy is talking about it but no one else has heard of it ( here in the US at least ). Makes the entire post suspect.
Or just use his bandwidth for vpn access.
Ok, its OT, but since when did US courts start mandating blocking of sites by ISPs?
Back on topic, it should not be hard to come up with the numbers and present it to management. Forget the 'it will be a bad idea' as it will only make you look disgruntled and biased, all they care about is raw numbers.
Moron.
And that has what to do with the discussion? Nothing.
Once i can download a bottle of liquor then we can talk, until then that is just stupid.
True, but bits dont weigh more ( ie, cost any more to deliver ) because they came from Netflix instead of direct from Comcast. Nor does the post office deliver a box slower than an envelope.
No, you shouldn't.
Well Comcast is raking in billions, so why cant they?
Done right, regulation can increase competition.
And while we all hate Comcast and want them to be gone, what about who takes their place? Who says they wont be any less abusive of their customers, and perhaps even worse? Don't blindly wish for 'change', as you might just get what you are asking for, and regret it.
What's more, his analogy actually supports Comcast NOT charging Netflix, rather than the other way around.
Which in my case, i do. I pay Comcast a monthly 'delivery fee'. what is delivered is of no business to them, just like the post office.
But this has got out of hand, and the government should be stepping in and slapping these people down, hard.
They are there to protect the consumer/citizen from abuse, and need to step up to the plate and start doing their job.
I disagree they facilitated anything as they were a public blog. If you want to pretend copyright law matters, then you should be addressing this with the people actively sharing without permission.
But to answer the question: To me it does not mater what the topic is on a discussion board, its free speech. If TPB was storing said 'infringing' files, then we could have a discussion about their legal status in the matter. But they were not, so we wont.
Do you have any idea how stupid you sound when you make such statements. You lose all credibility when you act like facilitating crime isn't in and of itself a crime. Google accidentally linking to some files is one thing. TPB exists entirely on the premise of facilitating copyright infringement. Thats different.
Do you have any idea how much of a fascist that makes you sound when you make such statements?
The simple fact is they were not facilitating. They offered a *public* blog, with content not under their control. Tho i may disagree with the premise, at least if you want to be consistent, you would go after the users that are actively sharing. Until then, its people discussing, which is free speech as far as i'm concerned.
Or some trumped up charges that they can make stick? Running a site based on user content, ( remember they didn't house any files ) should not be considered a crime.
They really did nothing more than lets say, Slashdot..
Their contributions to modern society can never fully be comprehended.
Um, i would rather have it with the commercial entities, they want to make sure they can make more money from me in the future, the government just wants to take it all and redistribute.
Make a list of who has what....
No, its not useless but it is pointing out the obvious to many who dont realize it.. Often times in these situations each side does blame the other 100%, when the reality is both sides need to 'man up' and accept some responsibility.
If this would happen, it would save a lot of time, and money by avoiding long drawn out and expensive litigation. ( which in the end its really our money, the consumer and citizen )
That isn't exactly what i meant, that if you disagree with me on booth that i dont want to hear it, its a general statement. Yes, its worded poorly, i really should fix it, but i have been lazy.
Just to add,. the main reason i posted the Booth blurb, is to make people think about what patriotism really is, and how history is rewritten by the victors. If the south had one, he would be a hero, much as Washington was an evil 'terrorist' to the British, but we won, so hes a hero. If we had lost, our view of history would be far different.
You are the first person that has taken the time to read and comment intelligently and didn't just pull the "race card", which really had little to do with what as going on in the first place. I commend you for using your brain, you sir are in the minority.
Anytime a large project goes down in flames like this, both the 'company' and the contractor are at fault.
We just look for qualified people? Who really cares what color/sex/orientation they are?
If you end up 'diverse', great, but if not, who cares? ( other than busybodies that operate off entitlements and the government )
So is knowledge, so lets ban books. So are vocal cords and eyes...
They were ( are? we will see ) also good for obscure books that you couldn't buy even if you wanted to, after the 'library' closed.
Who doesn't have a "throwaway" email they use for sign up verification notices?