> The Bible is not a text to tell us what
> we can figure out for ourselves. It is a
> text for the purpose of telling us the
> appropriate morals upon which we can build
> a lasting society.
Can we not figure out what is moral ourselves? Why should we follow the advice of Genesis?:
Bigamy? 4:19...
Treat people the way Hagar was treated? 16:3, 6, 21:10
Treat your daughters like Lot did? 19:8
Incest is sometimes okay? 20:12, 17:16
Sacrifice your oldest son? 22:2
Concubines are okay for some? 25:6
Extermination and genocide is sometimes okay? 7:21...
Slavery 17:12-27...
>> Action is needed to reverse this, but I doubt we'll
>> see it while Bush is still in power.
>
> I'm not a Bush fan in the slightest, but I don't see it
> being the kind of thing a Democrat president would give
> a crap about, either.
So long, and thanks for all the fish — Douglas Adams:
"On its world, the people are people. The leaders are lizards. The people hate the lizards and the lizards rule the people."
"Odd," said Arthur, "I thought you said it was a democracy."
"I did," said ford. "It is."
"So," said Arthur, hoping he wasn't sounding ridiculously obtuse, "why don't the people get rid of the lizards?"
"It honestly doesn't occur to them," said Ford. "They've all got the vote, so they all pretty much assume that the government they've voted in more or less approximates to the government they want."
"You mean they actually vote for the lizards?"
"Oh yes," said Ford with a shrug, "of course."
"But," said Arthur, going for the big one again, "why?"
"Because if they didn't vote for a lizard," said Ford, "the wrong lizard might get in."
Thank you, thank you Mr. President! That'll put those satantiencetists in their place! My boy came home the other day talking about how thems teacherists said that the universe started with some dirty banging.
Genesis 1 very clearly says the Earth was created by God before "the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also". When did they stop using the Holy Bible to teach biology, geography, and physics; is what I'd like to know.
by DougInthezoo (745880) [...] eating blue whales and elephants, as one death would feed so many people. [...] I raise, slaughter and butcher my own meat as much as I can on 5 acres
Emphasis added. And here I thought zoos just kept elephants so kids can see them up close;).
We play with 2 being "take 2 cards", except when you can play a 2 yourself, making it take "take 4 cards" etc., and jokers being "take 5 cards" etc.. Another variation I don't see in that article (locked for upgrade so I can't add it) is that you can play a card out of turn if it's the same value and suit.
The United States has an average population density of 31 people per square km.
Japan averages 337.
England 243.
Italy 193.
Switzerland 181.
Ireland has 57, Brazil has 22. Their experiences with mass transit (including rail) would provide a much more reasonable basis for discussion than the way this thread is heading.
Economic strength is also important. Finland, Sweden, and Russia are not only poorer but have lower pop. densities, yet have vastly superior rapid train systems.
> This is simply a strategic move to compete with
> Microsoft and it's inclusion of Encarta in MSN Search...
Google already shows pages from Wikipedia (WP) on it's result pages (see the list of top 10 Google hits for WP articles A-K, L-Z), and WP's articles can be crawled by any search engine. If Google (or another search engine) wanted to, they could make a new tab with only WP results (you can also do this with Google by adding " site:wikipedia.org" to a search) or show WP hits at the top or a side bar without having to ask any Wikimedians.
The "context" argument is usually a cop-out, but see if he was talking about splitting families or going Highlander on someone's ass in Matthew 10:32-37:
"Whoever acknowledges me before men, I will also acknowledge him before my Father in heaven.
But whoever disowns me before men, I will disown him before my Father in heaven.
"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.
For I have come to turn
" 'a man against his father,
a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law--
a man's enemies will be the members of his own household.'
"Anyone who loves his father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves his son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me;
I suspect that even if Jesus Christ came out of the sky escorted by angels playing harps and trumpets, and said "I support John Kerry", 50% of republicans would still say "bah, liberal messiah bias" and vote Bush anyway.
Douglas Adams, So long, and thanks for all the fish, chapter 36:
"It comes from a very ancient democracy, you see..."
"You mean, it comes from a world of lizards?"
"No", said Ford, who by this time was a little more rational and coherent than he had been, having finally had the coffee forced down him, "nothing so simple. Nothing anything like so straightforward. On its world, the people are people. The leaders are lizards. The people hate the lizards and the lizards rule the people."
"Odd", said Arthur, "I thought you said it was a democracy."
"I did", said Ford. "It is."
"So", said Arthur, hoping he wasn't sounding ridiculously obtuse, "why don't the people get rid of the lizards?"
"It honestly doesn't occur to them", said Ford. "They've all got the vote, so they all pretty much assume that the government they've voted in more or less approximates to the government they want."
"You mean they actually vote for the lizards?"
"Oh yes", said Ford with a shrug, "of course".
"But", said Arthur, going for the big one again, "why?"
"Because if they didn't vote for a lizard," said Ford, "the wrong lizard might get in.
Power to you if you think voting for the lesser evil is actually reversing the downward spiral tho.
Maurice Murad, "Shouting at the crocodile", Into the buzzsaw, 2002:
There are still ways to remain reasonably informed. The first thing to do is distinguish between information programming and the political mud wrestling that passes for public affairs.
Capital Gang, Hardball, Crossfire, and the rest of the talking head spitting matches, whether netwok, syndicated, or on cable, are worthless. It is false conflict masquerading as serious discussion [...] no respect for the truth. They are aware[...] that the manipulation of perceptions is replacing reality as the governing principle in human affairs. [...]turn to PBS where the NewsHour is parsing the day's events in a calm thorough manner.
FOX CBS ABC NBC CNN Prn N/P 20% 30% 39% 45% 45% 53% 77% None of the 3 80% 71% 61% 55% 55% 47% 23% 1 or more
Among those who primarily watch Fox, those who pay more attention are more likely to have misperceptions. Only those who mostly get their news from print media have fewer misperceptions as they pay more attention.
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"It comes from a very ancient democracy, you see..."
"You mean, it comes from a world of lizards?"
"No", said Ford, who by this time was a little more rational and
coherent than he had been, having finally had the coffee
forced down him, "nothing so simple. Nothing anything like so
straightforward. On its world, the people are people. The leaders are
lizards. The people hate the lizards and the lizards rule the people."
"Odd", said Arthur, "I thought you said it was a democracy."
"I did", said Ford. "It is."
"So", said Arthur, hoping he wasn't sounding ridiculously obtuse, "why don't the people get rid of the
lizards?"
"It honestly doesn't occur to them", said Ford. "They've all got the vote, so they all pretty much assume that the
government they've voted in more or less approximates to the government they want."
"You mean they actually vote for the lizards?"
"Oh yes", said Ford with a shrug, "of course".
"But", said Arthur, going for the big one again, "why?"
"Because if they didn't vote for a lizard," said Ford, "the wrong lizard might get in. Got any gin?"
"What?"
"I said", said Ford, with an increasing air of urgency creeping into his voice, "have you got any gin?"
"I'll look. Tell me about the lizards."
Ford shrugged again.
"Some people say that the lizards are the best thing that ever happened to them." he said. "They're completely wrong
of course, completely and utterly wrong, but someone's got to say it."
Douglas Adams, So long, and thanks for all the fish, chapter 36.
> So don't kid yourself a vote for Nader is a vote for Bush and the last thing we (the people of the US) need is four more years of King George II. -- OMEGA Power (651936)
Douglas Adams, writing in "So long, and thanks for all the fish", chapter 36:
"It comes from a very ancient democracy, you see..."
"You mean, it comes from a world of lizards?"
"No", said Ford, who by this time was a little more rational and coherent than he had been, having finally had the coffee
forced down him, "nothing so simple. Nothing anything like so straightforward. On its world, the people are people. The leaders are
lizards. The people hate the lizards and the lizards rule the people."
"Odd", said Arthur, "I thought you said it was a democracy."
"I did", said Ford. "It is."
"So", said Arthur, hoping he wasn't sounding ridiculously obtuse, "why don't the people get rid of the
lizards?"
"It honestly doesn't occur to them", said Ford. "They've all got the vote, so they all pretty much assume that the
government they've voted in more or less approximates to the government they want."
"You mean they actually vote for the lizards?"
"Oh yes", said Ford with a shrug, "of course".
"But", said Arthur, going for the big one again, "why?"
"Because if they didn't vote for a lizard," said Ford, "the wrong lizard might get in. Got any gin?"
"What?"
"I said", said Ford, with an increasing air of urgency creeping into his voice, "have you got any gin?"
"I'll look. Tell me about the lizards."
Ford shrugged again.
"Some people say that the lizards are the best thing that ever happened to them." he said. "They're completely wrong
of course, completely and utterly wrong, but someone's got to say it."
> The U.S. politicians (I hate it when they are equated with the U.S. itself - there is a big difference)
Who keeps putting those politicians in office? Who deserves the blame for the actions of the two parties that gets elected over and over?
"It comes from a very ancient democracy, you see..."
"You mean, it comes from a world of lizards?"
"No", said Ford, who by this time was a little more rational and coherent than he had been, having finally had the coffee
forced down him, "nothing so simple. Nothing anything like so straightforward. On its world, the people are people. The leaders are
lizards. The people hate the lizards and the lizards rule the people."
"Odd", said Arthur, "I thought you said it was a democracy."
"I did", said Ford. "It is."
"So", said Arthur, hoping he wasn't sounding ridiculously obtuse, "why don't the people get rid of the lizards?"
"It honestly doesn't occur to them", said Ford. "They've all got the vote, so they all pretty much assume that the government they've voted in more or less approximates to the government they want."
"You mean they actually vote for the lizards?"
"Oh yes", said Ford with a shrug, "of course".
"But", said Arthur, going for the big one again, "why?"
"Because if they didn't vote for a lizard," said Ford, "the wrong lizard might get in." - Douglas Adams, So long, and thanks for all the
fish, chapter 36
I don't get it, are you saying anyone can go and vote at any polling place if they know the name and address of someone who lives in the allotted area? What am I missing?
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> we can figure out for ourselves. It is a
> text for the purpose of telling us the
> appropriate morals upon which we can build
> a lasting society.
Can we not figure out what is moral ourselves? Why should we follow the advice of Genesis?:
Bigamy? 4:19...
Treat people the way Hagar was treated? 16:3, 6, 21:10
Treat your daughters like Lot did? 19:8
Incest is sometimes okay? 20:12, 17:16
Sacrifice your oldest son? 22:2
Concubines are okay for some? 25:6
Extermination and genocide is sometimes okay? 7:21...
Slavery 17:12-27...
>> see it while Bush is still in power.
>
> I'm not a Bush fan in the slightest, but I don't see it
> being the kind of thing a Democrat president would give
> a crap about, either.
So long, and thanks for all the fish — Douglas Adams:
Maybe he doesn't want to do business with a company that does inline linking.
Genesis 1 very clearly says the Earth was created by God before "the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also". When did they stop using the Holy Bible to teach biology, geography, and physics; is what I'd like to know.
We prefer to be called buccaneer-Americans.
We play with 2 being "take 2 cards", except when you can play a 2 yourself, making it take "take 4 cards" etc., and jokers being "take 5 cards" etc.. Another variation I don't see in that article (locked for upgrade so I can't add it) is that you can play a card out of turn if it's the same value and suit.
USA population 293 027 571/land area 9 161 923 sq km=31.98.
Sweden 8 986 400/410 934=21.87.
Finland 5 214 512/304 473=17.13.
Russia 143 782 338/16 995 800=8.46.
Even more important of course is how concentrated parts are, not the country averages.
> Microsoft and it's inclusion of Encarta in MSN Search...
Google already shows pages from Wikipedia (WP) on it's result pages (see the list of top 10 Google hits for WP articles A-K, L-Z), and WP's articles can be crawled by any search engine. If Google (or another search engine) wanted to, they could make a new tab with only WP results (you can also do this with Google by adding " site:wikipedia.org" to a search) or show WP hits at the top or a side bar without having to ask any Wikimedians.
Also, Wikimedia sites are licensed under the GNU Free Documentation License.
Now compare other mentions of "sword" in the NT.
Citizens of the USA can vote using absentee ballots even if they are in other countries.
I can't find that study on Google ;)
Power to you if you think voting for the lesser evil is actually reversing the downward spiral tho.
Christian science monitor article.
Country: Kerry, Bush, neither
Kerry
Germany: 74%, 10%, 16%
Norway: 74%, 7%, 19%
France: 64%, 5%, 31%
Canada: 61%, 16%, 23%
Italy: 58%, 14%, 28%
Brazil: 57%, 14%, 29%
Indonesia: 57%, 34%, 9%
China: 52%, 12%, 36%
Kerry, no mandate
UK: 47%, 16%, 37%
Japan: 43%, 32%, 25%
Too close to call, no mandate
India: 34%, 33%, 33%
Bush
Philippines: 32%, 57%, 11%
Neither, no mandate
Spain: 45%, 7%, 48%
Mexico: 38%, 18%, 44%
Nigeria: 33%, 27%, 40%
Thailand: 30%, 33%, 37%
Poland: 26%, 31%, 43%
2000: Gore, Bush, other, none of the candidates
None of the candidates
USA: 22.0%**, 21.8%**, 1.7%, 54.5%*
* Eligible voters
** Gore, Bush, and other's percentage support of eligible (I hope)
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Douglas Adams, writing in "So long, and thanks for all the fish", chapter 36:
Who keeps putting those politicians in office? Who deserves the blame for the actions of the two parties that gets elected over and over?
Sinfest 2004-02-28.
I don't get it, are you saying anyone can go and vote at any polling place if they know the name and address of someone who lives in the allotted area? What am I missing?