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Political Pop-ups, and Follow the Money
finelinebob writes "Now we know why Bush wants broadband for everyone: The Republican National Committee plans on bringing the campaign to Internet pop-up ads. From the article: 'Internet experts said that Republicans have entered a new realm of campaigning. Pop-up and pop-under ads of any variety haven't been around long, and little data exist to suggest how voters might respond to uninvited interruptions.' Okay, folks -- get your pop-up blocking browsers now!" While you're waiting for your first pop-up, pop on over to a website that tracks campaign contributions: vVF4N writes "Fundrace 2004 lets you enter any street address and see what people at or near that location have contributed to a presidential candidate, along with their addresses and occupations. The data is based on reports that campaigns regularly file with the Federal Election Commission. You can also look up a name and get the same information. The Washington Post (registration required) has more. Find out who your friends and neighbors are contributing to."
So instead of using the Internet to rally and energize the American public into voting for them, they are going to use it to furthor alienate and annoy us with pop-ups? Are they that out of touch that they believe pop-ups are actualy going to give them some sort of edge?
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An oppertunity for the republicans to annoy everyone. That's what I like to see.
In soviet russia stale jokes recycle you!
As if pr0n pop-ups werent enough, we'll now have Dubya and others popping up and asking to vote for them. :-)
Wonder if the internet usage policy will classify Dubya with his silly grin as "distasteful, objectionable content"
http://efil.blogspot.com/
If this means I get "Vote for Bush" popups in Australia I'm going to be very upset.
I'd prefer a 12" penis any day!
... everyone who has a net connections gets immensely pissed off at Republicans and Bush gets the boot. Yay.
The intro to this article mentions Opera and Mozilla - forget it, there's much better out there. I've tried every browser out there, and for nearly 6 months now I've used MyIE2. It "takes over" IE2 and runs as a seperate program - not only does it do pop-up blocking, it also does _content_ blocking. My eyes are open, the internet (and slashdot) no longer has ads - try it, try it, try it (if you're stuck in Windows).
Freeware. http://www.myie2.com
Soon, we'll find that John F. Kerry tries to counter this with 30 second flash intros. Listen to that thumping techno beat and kick ass effects!
Oh, what about Nader, you ask? He won't use computers. Apparently they pollute or something. He wants monitors banned because of their adverse health effects, too. But, his rumbling will be heard across the world anyways, so don't you worry!
Until Slashdot fixes the funny modifier, use insightful or interesting. The poster knows your intentions.
Under provision 911.666 of the PATRIOT II act, any method of circumventing the delivery of any advertisement form is considered an act of terrorism, punishable by life imprisonment in a forest labour camp, or summary execution. RFID signals broadcast from advertisements will be used in conjunction with the RFID tags now secretly being placed in your contact lenses to permit 24 hour total penis enlargement awareness.
And he donated the max ($2000) Geeze I guess times we're *that* tough this year.
cia: there are weapons of mass destruction in iraq!
bush: okay!
cia: and americans love pop-up ads!
bush: okay!
Looks like he'll be doing the first useful thing in his presidential career...
:)
Giving people a reason to ditch IE and run Firefox!
Still he's not getting my vote, well as I'm English I couldn't anyway!
v.ote for b.ush!!
asfhjku hdsjhkf hdfhbio
looks to me like a very interesting graphical representation of voter contributions, it seems a little scary though that I can access the name and address of everyone in my zipcode who contributed x amount of money to x candidate; I can see why it is necessary to keep these records public, but I can also see some potential for mis-use. Anyone else have this thought?
-ashot
Some kind of junk breakfast cereal?
Oh, is it part of the world of commerce?
Sorry, my OS doesn't do advertisment, it's not aimed at "consumers" for whom using it is an "experience".
There are places where the networks are not touching,and there are places where they are-Boeing's Lori Gunter
Wasn't there some discussion about provisions in the CAN-SPAM act to exempt "informative" political messages?
:)
At that level, I wouldn't be surprised if popup blockers and filters against political spam were somehow to run afoul of DMCA (circumvention devices!) and friends. You MUST view this popup, we're checking! Honest!
Cole's Law: Thinly sliced cabbage
How else is my browser-based instant messenger supposed to work?
Which part of 'this won't work' don't the republicans get? If the pop up works, it annoys, and they lose. But most of the time wouldn't this be blocked now?
I's bet the majority of us have browsers that block pop-ups, even IE now blocks pop-ups.
So are they aiming at the people to dumb to upgrade browers? Uh, hang on, this is starting to make sense.
"Republicans, appealing to the lowest common denominator since 1978."
OMFG it's late but I couldn't resist playing with this thing. Hmmm...
Bill Gates gave Bush $2000.
Couldn't find anything on Jobs, Allen, McBride, Schwarzenegger, Mel Gibson.
Searching for Bush shows George HW, Barbara, and Jeb all chipped in $2000. Donations from random "Bushes" seems to be skewed towards Bush. Searching for Kerry shows every "Kerry" contributed to Kerry.
What other interesting names can be discovered in here?
...is now michael's personal forum for his political views? FWIW, I've been planning on voting against the current president for a long time now. Someone like David Duke would have to have received the Democratic nomination in order for me to fail to vote Democratic in November, 2004.
That being said, that's two articles on the current main page posted by michael that have an anti-Bush tone to them. I guess michael doesn't care about being "fair and balanced" as a journalist.
/.: why the hell am I here?
I can definitely see Kerry in Viagra "Popups"
:-)
My wife..er.. financier strong recommends it...
Extensive reading, but just read line by line.
Of course, though, we know that the GOP has done better in communicating their message, while the Democrats continue to fail Influence 101...a sad sight.
William H. Gates
CEO
Microsoft Corp.
George W. Bush
$2,000
1 Microsoft Way Redmond, WA 98052
GWB saved Gates' shiny white hind, and all he gives in return is 2000 dollars. Ingrateful sod!
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Single popups are bad enough, but just wait until the Republicans try those rapid-fire take-over-your-screen can't-hit-the-X-fast-enough popups. "Terrorists might be hiding under your bed!" "Democrats are Liberal Liberal Liberal!" "Weapons of Mass Destruction!" "Our Enemies are EEEEVILLLLL!" "Yellow Alert No, Orange Alert! No, Yellow Alert!" "Pink Alert - Gay People Might Destroy Your Marriage Unless You let Us Repeal The Constitution!" "Don't Vote Democrat or Terrorists Will Squish This Hamster!" "Be Afraid, Be Very Afraid!" "Don't Worry, Republicans Will Protect You!" "Pay No Attention to the Web Bug Behind This Window!" "CLick the Dancing Osama To Fight Terrorism!" "Click the Dancing Osama to Vote Republican!" "If you Don't see the Fnords, they won't eat you!" "Homeland Security works if We All Cooperate!"
Bill Stewart
New Fast-Compression-only CPR http://preview.tinyurl.com/dy575ks
HOWARD M. DEAN
RETIRED
DEAN FOODS CO.
George W. Bush
$2,000
716 SOUTH OAK St HINSDALE, IL 60521
Nothing to see here
Many people here claim that this will backfire mainly because it will annoy everyone.
this is not true,
let me demonstrate with a little gedanken experiment.
1) would these popups annoy you ?
2) would you have considered voting for GW if it were'nt for those popups?
I think that this campaign is better targetted than one may think.
Remember that if spam & aggressive marketing were not economically viable, they would not exist
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i'll stop here, because the next conclusion is not PC, (actually though i believe that conclusion, it would (rightly so) be considered flamebait)
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now, (OT) since nobody mentioned THIS favorite blocker... (i also use it to block flash advertisement, which is the best feature in the history of browsers)
-- Avishalom is usually vish
Governor John Bush only gave his brother $1000?
Zing!
But not as much as when they start sending spam.
Mod parent up!
Keeping digging your own grave, Rove.
If they want to alienate voters and come off as money-hungry vultures, then pop-ups and spam are the way to go.
Its pretty ironic when Bush has over 100 million sitting in his war chest, which has broken all previous records. Thats what you get for pandering to big business for almost four years, a nice return on your investment.
So here in California, the Republicans already have lots of practice annoying Internet users. Let's hope they keep it up!
Bill Stewart
New Fast-Compression-only CPR http://preview.tinyurl.com/dy575ks
So if i wanted another canidate to loose then i should start sponsoring adds for them as pop-ups instead. interesting,
Maybe they are going to use some agency that has them convinced that people ask for the pop-ups when they installed thier spyware (insert covert marketing name here)
Very, very simple to do and if you must use IE, just get the google toolbar for pop-up blocking.
Pop-up and pop-under ads of any variety haven't been around long ... ???
They've been around TOO long. More specifically, they have been around, period.
I hear there's rumors on the Slashdots
Imagine a NUDE Dubya pop-up ;)
Sigs for Nerds. Sigs that Matter.
The use of pop-up ads really seem to suggest that they don't ever use the web. Or at least not ofen enough to know how annoying, and pretty useless, pop up (or pop under) ads are.
It's similiar to how so many of the top spammers admit to being computer illiterate before discovering spam as a way to make money. And it's the same reason scalpers are rarely fans of the band or sports team they sell tickets for. Anyone with a vested interest in the activity will not want to destroy it.
Alright, I'll admit that pop ups are not destroying the web, but I stand by the fact that those who advocate their use must rarely surf the web themselves.
Vote for Bush, vote for the DMCA.
Nader ran against the DMCA in 2000, I can't see why he'd change his mind in 2004.
Kucinich, too, ran against the DMCA. Pity nobody cared.
Ed Craig "Who cares what you think?" George W. Bush, 4th of July 2001
When all is said and done, nothing changes...
I had a knee-jerk reaction to browsing this database filled with no less than a dozen of my friends', families', and aquaintances' political affiliations with corresponding addresses. My inner-self cried "INVASION OF PRIVACY! ABORT! ABORT!"
I then took a mental step back, collected my wits, and clicked the "Privacy" link. lo and behold:
Upon further investigation it becomes apparent that this site is a Very Good Thing(tm). It is a bastion of democracy.
Fundrace, I salute you.
@ASP.NET's parent-teacher meeting: "Little Johnny.NET is very bright, but he doesn't play well with others."
There's potential for mis-use, but talk about an eye-opener. How many average citizens would take the time to request this data from the FEC?
A quick lookup of my street address was extremely insightful. I recognized many of the names from my years in the business community and guess what? Most of the Republican donors are owners and officers of companies who have been laying off workers (and outsourcing their work) with most contributing $2000 checks from every person in their household. The Dems, on the other hand, had more contributors, but they were much smaller contributions ($50 - $500) and mostly from small business owners and average Joe's -- many retirees.
Now I can see for myself why the Bushies have over $100M at their disposal, while Kerry's only at $22M or so. Knowing where the money is coming from helps show where government will be going -- and if Bush wins, it will be going into Big Business's back pocket.
Showed lots of contributions in my town, but not mine. So very cool, but not 100%.
Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?
If they have to pay per advertisement served or clicked... lets write a bit of perl and try to lighten their warchest a bit ;P
Not only do Opera, Firefox, and MyIE2 all block popups, but so to does the Apple web browser Safari! It is also the standard browser.
Oh, this is going to be very fun!.
Want to improve your Karma? Instead of "Post Anonymously", try the "Post Humously" option.
http://www.fundrace.org/neighbors.php?search=1&typ e=name&lname=Gates&fname=William+H.
;-) *scnr*
uhoh!
In an article about pop-ups, three sponsored links to pop-up blockers ... and a pop-up!
Ho hum...
Oddly enough, yesterday I saw a flash side-bar ad with Bush's face on it and asking "Should Bush be reelected". I don't think it was a campaign ad, but still, his picture was quite disturbing.
(1) As was said in The Hunt for Red October,"I'm a politician, which means I'm a cheat and a liar...when I'm not kissing babies I'm stealing their lollipops." I don't support any organized political party because politicans are representing their represented citizens less and the ideals of the party more.
(2) If a contribution is going to reveal my HOME ADDRESS then you can fuggeddaboutit!
Government's idea of a balanced budget: take money from the right pocket to balance...oh who am I kidding?
It doesn't list the Bin Laden family contributions???
That's Charles Cawley's address, the CEO of MBNA America (a credit card bank you might be making payments to). There's also his neighbors, most of which are CEOs or owners of their own companies. You can see if you search around the 19807 area code how high a % is red... Anyone have a really Democratic or really Republican zip code?
Republicans and conservatives (on slashdot) are traeted like the Klan treated ... well ... I'll lket you fill in th rest. It's already bad enough that this will either get modded into troll oblivion or offtopic just because I said the words "republican, conservative" - I guess I'll get 100% troll/flamebait if I say I use Macs too!
Trust me, if Bush does something, and enough people like it, the democrats will do it too!
Let's dispense the truth - the real story here is "ALL politicians would like to see broadband so as to push political agenda on the nation faster and cheaper."
A Republican website could read: "Slashdot subtlely brainwashes and force conforms its readers into being liberal ... majority of slashdotters have broadband, is there a link?"
...when you can get even?
;)
If you find a page that hosts these, go ahead and spend all day clicking on it
...after all... I assume theyre paying by the hit...
If you want us to stop.
If you were blocking sigs, you wouldn't have to read this.
It reminds me of my favorite classic Star Trek episode. They visit a planet that has warring races. Captain Kirk brings a leader from each side onto the Enterprise to negotiate a peace treaty - they refuse to get along. Finally, Kirk says, "You know, I don't understand, you guys seem to really like each other and not have any differences at all... so what's wrong?" One leader says, "I thought you knew, it's so obvious, Kirk I am offended... is that question a joke? Can't you see, he's black on the left side of his face and I'm black on the right side of my face." When standing opposite each other you didn't notice, but side by side you could.
Point is - debate politics but don't polarize your friends and ESPECIALLY try not brainwash or force your political agenda down people's throats. I'm wondering if my obviousness of conservative or Republican belief has anything to do with my story submissions being rejected or accepted.
Yell & scream & rant & rave... it's no use... you need a shaaaave ~ Bugs Bunny
Certainly do not use popup blockers for this, on the contrary, bring them up, click, bring'em up again and click click until you're tired -- it'll cost them money for each click... I reckon we could even have a "Click The Bush" campaign in which good net citizens would click on those ads several times a day to help rid the world of this pestilence :)
Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives.
you think either the Republicans or Democrats are that concerned about where the money comes from.
Now that's optimistic! If you've got a prostitution ring in Thailand that specializes in the anal rape of baby monk seals, you just have to launder the money before you buy the politician.
Randomly enough. They admit this is an experiment and they don't know what they're doing, but they've got, and I shit you not, so much money, that it makes it a perfect time to run the experiment. That's their actual, said it to the camera, position. It doesn't matter how much they piss people off, they've got enough extra money to fix it.
But I'd check the outrage if I were a European. The Republicans couldn't by a better publicist than the EU. Remember, if you look like you hate America, anything that pisses you off looks like a good idea. If you want Ohio and it's electoral votes to go to the red team in November, keep it up.
The republicans want to use popup campaign ads eh?
*Cues up Mozilla*
In the infomus words of your incumbent candidate, "Bring em on!"
~~ Behold the flying cow with a rail gun! ~~
If you could give us an exact definition of "political speech" I'm sure someone could write a filter for you.
No but, yeah but, no but...
Jane works in a law firm. Jane likes dennis kucinich. Jane's boss, a partner, likes GW Bush.
Jane's boss can only contribute up to the maximum personal limit of $2000 or whatever it is. But, he can strongly suggest to jane and others that it might be in jane's career interest to do the same.
now, the boss can check up on jane with this handy web site. of course, nobody has forced jane to do anything, but still, the boss can check up to see what kind of 'team player' she is.
this is TRULY scary. do a search of your loal neighborhood and see how many lawyers' names come up.
If you're hating on America, Americans instinctively want to shit on your birthday cake. But if you want to be our pal, we feel obligated to help you move, let you crash on our couch if your girl is PMSing, and generally do right by you. We're going through a tough time, and are many other countries and peoples. What you DON'T do is kick your friend when he's down, even if he can take it. Doing so makes one out to be an Ass-clown who practices Ass-hattery. Thus inviting people to shit on his birthday cake.
So if you're sympathetic, but not combative, Americans will be more likely to view our overlord welcoming vassals as good people. And when the administration puts upon good people, the administration will be bad. Because then we're the ass-clowns. And that's bad, and must be rectified.
You've only got to swing a couple of states to assure a new administration. Ohio would be a good start. Small wonder the administration saved up the oil for food corruption probe until just months before the election despite the abuse being well known for years. The french are going to take it up the ass, and guess which nationality Hussien's lead defense attorney is. I can't even imagine what would be more hated in America than a French Lawyer, OH YEAH, the one defending Hussein, and plans to trot out the Geneva conventions for a man who's soldiers summarily excecuted US soldiers. The french will just be lucky if president doesn't mention their country in the same breath as, "... the missles are on their way." And you know us Americans and our trails of the century.
But can so many people give up their national pastime to act in their own interests? Haha, yeah that's a rhetorical question. Maybe you should just write letters of support for Condileeza Rice's decision to not testify under oath and in public.
this Bush really will fuck you.
--punched in my x/y in the lobby/bribes lookup engine list and got a (non) surprise. All the top contributions look suspiciously like some company ordered every employee they have to contribute 2 grand apiece to... drumroll, please.... the reelection efforts of the current political lackey allegedly in charge! I mean, right down the page, so and so employed by xxx corporation.
Yep, we need campaign bribery reform. Badly. And this obvious corporate control over the nation needs to cease and desist. It's gone from innocent capitalism to hijacking the politics. Greedism rules it appears.
Alienating the Americans ? How about alienating the Swiss ?
Each couple of month, in Switzerland we're supposed to vote about a dozen of laws, laws change and other subjects.
Just imagine the desktop mess if swiss politician start to make pop-up like the american : not just two pop-ups for two candidate, but dozens of pop-ups about pro and cons for each subjet.
Now THAT'S going to make a big wreckage on the desktop ! I think people will start to hate democracy... or make Mozilla the official nationnal browser for it's ad-blocking...
"Sufficiently advanced satire is indistinguishable from reality." - [Tips: 1DrYakQDKCQ6y52z6QbnkxHXAocMZJE61o ]
I've noticed the Googlebar has be allowing some popups through lately. I wonder what the new technique is. In my own experiments, I've found I could launch unwanted popups with an onMouseOver() method in the [body] tag. That tricked Mozilla and the Google bar.
Will the political campaigns be that mischievous? Republicans might, because apparently they don't understand the internet. Democrats won't be so dumb. The primaries were an excellent crash course in internet fund raising, and they are way ahead of the game.
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Erik
YOU ARE SAYING IMPUDENCE TO ME! THAT IS IMPUDENCE!
I mean... We already have a problem with Bush and the war and american tourists over here.... so the last thing I want is to have a pop up on my computer saying vote Bush... I may sue them for kicking my monitor with a very blunt object if I see one...
Where is my mind?
That's the point. They are sending pop-ups for their opponents, stupid!
Steve Wozniak
CEO Wheels of Zeus
Howard Dean & John Kerry
$2,000 each
William H. Gates
CEO Microsoft Corp.
George W. Bush
$2,000
SAMUEL J. PALMISANO
CHAIRMAN/PRESIDENT & C.E.O. I.B.M. CORPORATION
George W. Bush
$2,000
Carleton S. Fiorina
Chairman & C.E.O. Hewlett-Packard
George W. Bush
$2,000
Brian L. Roberts
President Comcast
George W. Bush
$2,000
Craig R. Barrett
C.E.O. Intel Corporation
George W. Bush & Joe Lieberman
$2,000 Each
Meg Whitman
President/C.E.O. E. Bay Inc.
George W. Bush
$2,000
Seems to be alot of support towards Bush.
--------- If its possible it will happen, If its impossible it will just take longer
Surprise. Is one entity only allowed to contribute $2000? Gates, Ballmer, and George Sr. have each contributed $2000. Did MS's other 1000+ employees magically contribute $2000 too?
I'm not saying that Bush or Republicans are perfect by any means, and that by and large most Slashdot readers (and posters) tend to lean left. But editors should at least try to maintain some semblance of objectivity in the headlines. Otherwise they risk becoming a partisan political action website, not "News for nerds."
"Ask not what your country can do for you." --John F. Kennedy
I'm sure that someone will respond saying that open debate is healthy. I am inclined to agree. But show me the open debate here. When people with a dissenting view are forced to post anonymously for fear of being moderated down, just for having a difference of opinion, that's not an open debate.
And the last time I checked, this website was "Slashdot: News for Nerds." How is this an article about News for Nerds? This is nothing more than a vehicle for attacking President Bush, thinly veiled in some article about pop-ups.
Mod parent up. Mod article down.
Just imagine you got a popup that had an image of Goatsx/TubGirl with the caption, "This is what you get if you vote for FooBar. Vote for FooBar now".
So if I wanted to make a banner ad for my candidate, do I
first have to form my own PAC? And what about having it
accepted by one of the sites that serve up the ads? Cost?
As you can tell, I don't know much about whats involved in
online advertising (never had to), but if its not too much
$ would definitely consider doing something like this.
Next thing we'll see a constitutional amendment banning Firefox!
bun-fhuinneog agam!
I'm shocked! People that run businesses are donating to republicans, and old people are backing the dems.
HOLY SHIT!
Ironically, the word ironically is often used incorrectly.
According to this, it appears that Howard Dean has given up on the Democratic Party altogether and now supports George Bush for President.
Oh Yes of course, Once they get "Everyone" Internet then they will be able to "control" the internet.
"Fundrace 2004 lets you enter any street address and see what people at or near that location have contributed to a presidential candidate, along with their addresses and occupations. The data is based on reports that campaigns regularly file with the Federal Election Commission. You can also look up a name and get the same information."
Wait, wait, wait.... You're worried about political pop-ups (not exactly new news or specific to only Bush) but this isn't on your right to privacy radar warning buzzer?? Nice to know where our priorities lie...
You need a FREE iPod Nano
But on the plus side, this may actually help spread laws and ideas. While I will almost certainly dispise the american politicians that do this, I will probably read the swiss stuff and think about it. Well, probably only for the first time.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
Ads for Bush on the web ? Great !
It's been a while since I've seen a "Punch the monkey" ad.
Gee, this Fundrace thing is fun...and kinda scary. Especially if you normally don't want people to know your home address. Here's some of the giving habits of our favorite cast of characters:
Bill Gates - CEO Microsoft - Republican
Steve Ballmer - President Microsoft - Republican
Hilary Rosen - Consultant & President RIAA - Democrat
Jack Valenti - President MPAA - Democrat
Darl McBride - President SCO Group - Thankless Bastard
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I would guess a lot of /. would-like me-consider themselves to be independents or like libertarians. I'm closest in political terms to being a "paleo-conservative",vote third party or independent or just use write-in, but in no way would I vote for anyone in the capital R party with just a few exceptions, rep ron paul and tancredo come to mind as decent guys. The D party is chock fulla scumbags as well, again, maybe a few exceptions. I wasn't reading slashdot during the clinton crime years, so can't comment on your charges of coverage, but IMO clinton should be doing hard time at club fed, accepting foreign bribes at a minimum, and lying to a grand jury, pretty serious felonies, and kennedy should be investigated for that death, as well as the "friends of bill list" of the clinton "coincidences" surrounding so many deaths.
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Slight change of subject
This guy Clarke has been getting a lot of press lately about 9-11, surely a major political event since it occurred, along with being just a dastardly crime. Now, how about if there was even more evidence of government malfeasance and prior knowledge of the 9-11 event? Would that be good fodder for the political debate? Some stuff the mass media is mostly ignoring?
Check out these two URL's:
http://www.infowars.com/transcript_schippers.ht
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=
Too bad this guy isn't getting any press on the subject, maybe we could REALLY start to clean up politics in the US and break the stranglehold the D and R criminal cartels have on the process.
zogger
mods, sorry about the sliding off topic
I would guess that there are those on this site that did not have bush their entire life.
It is good to see all that money I thought was being wasted in the campaigns being spent to prop up internet sites. I think Firefox needs a new feature where it downloads the ad, but does not display it, so that the ad money can still be paid out but the user is not annoyed. That way the web site doesn't have to think of ways to circumvent the blockers.
The geographical maps of contributions: I assume they would look quite different if displayed by contributor instead of by dollar contributed. In any case, the fish in the great lakes seem to be going democratic -- must be all those buckyballs they have been consuming lately.
Any bets on how long it will be before popup blocking is a violation of the DMCA?
Bill Gates contributed $2,000 to Mr. 666.
Micheal has been the main culprit - he should just "know better" - no filtering required.
See the above post - it makes no sense to incite a one sided debate.
Yell & scream & rant & rave... it's no use... you need a shaaaave ~ Bugs Bunny
You would think that the President of a huge Cable company would want to keep George Bush's FCC around.
Mozilla Firefox: Now More Than Ever!
A Republican website could read: "Slashdot subtlely brainwashes and force conforms its readers into being liberal ... majority of slashdotters have broadband, is there a link?"
Have you read OSNews.com lately? That site has turned into exactly of what you speak. They even practice heavy censorship.
"BEHOLD, CORN!!" - Dr. Weird, ATHF
I can't believe it!! The politicians have actually found a way to NOT get my vote.
--Auger
I will probably read the swiss stuff and think about it
In a way swiss law are open source : at least the voting document always come with the exact text of the law you're going to vote for.
Same can't be said about amercan politicians
"Sufficiently advanced satire is indistinguishable from reality." - [Tips: 1DrYakQDKCQ6y52z6QbnkxHXAocMZJE61o ]
What's a popup, again? It's been so long since I saw one that I don't remember what they look like.
Honestly. Wouldn't they get more exposure for their money by printing their ad.s on the inside of automobile tires, or stitching them into pocketing, or some other equally (in)visible medium?
Then again, most political parties could save huge wads of money by not buying any advertising until they have something significant to say.
how come when I go to Fundrace 2004 all I get is a message from Big Business saying "All your politicians are belong to us"?
Why does being modded down frighten you?
No, people running HUGE CORPORATIONS are donating to the Republicans and small business owners are donating to the Dems. You seem to show the same reading comprehension as the editors at Fox News.
It's funny..
If you look at all the people who donated to Bush from Microsoft, its all VP's and high level management that get paid the big bucks and donated the max of $2000, but most the ones that contributed to other candidates are all lower paid blue-collar from programmers to trainers and could only donate $200-$500 dollars..
What does that tell you about a "bush" economy.. other than those that are benefiting are the ones that are already able to retire..
I'll be glad to see bush go.. not that I'm a Kerry supporter.. but I'm just tired of all the crap.
SCO attacks IBM w/o proof.. Bush attacks Iraq w/o Proof... which one do you think will get away with it, without any consequences?
The road between democracy and tyranny is paved with secrecy in the name of security.
Ahh, another anonymous whine.
So typical... I thought liberals were the whiners.
...and click-on, and click-on, and click-on, and click-on.
I Promise to single-handedly make any web site feeding a Bush pop-up rich beyond their wildest dreams with click-thru revenue.
Of course, I'll vote for Anybody But Bush.
I'll waste his money and put him out of a job just like he wastes my money and keeps me out of a job.
That's the only way we can stop political pop-ups: No Return On Investment. Let's give them some 'hard data' to show them it's not worth it!
I thought the personal contribution limit was $2000. I ran my address, and one of my neighbors made two $2000 contributions to GWB.
Is this anything to worry about since the site runs on data that's already been publicly reported?
http://drteknikal.blogspot.com/
I'll wager the Kerry Campaign will turn around with a "Punch-the-GWB" flash/banner ad.
$cat
The Transparency-Project
Has some neat tools to do a FOAF (friend of a frienc) or in this case six degrees of campaign contribution, and how certain politicians "relate" to others and certain interest groups. *shrug* it's a neat demonstration of the concept at least...
e.
Build Your Own PVR/HTPC news, reviews, &
Every other group has a PAC, why doesn't IT have one??? They would be able to lobby congress for the things that WE want and eventually weed out the best candidate for our needs...
This is the only way you get things done in DC...the closest we have to a PAC might be the EFF, but that's not all they do...what we need is a group who's soul designation is to lobby for our needs and our wants.
The only way to get the politicians to listen to us is to put our votes on the line...
Ok, I'll get off of my soap box now...I just thought it might be a good time to mention it considering how much what they do will effect us...
Dear %NAME%, Thank you for your generous donation of %AMOUNT% to the presidental campaign of %CANDIDATE%. I, like you, have a strong concern in the proper leadership of this great nation for the next four years.
I have another issue that I think you might be interested in. %NONAME ORGANIZATION% is working hard to promote good wholesome %VALUE% in your community.
A donation of $100 would be greatly appreciated. We will gladly list you as a GOLD donation member in our event book and keep you informed of upcoming events.
%PREFERRED DEITY% bless %CANDIDATE% and %COUNTRY OF ORIGIN%!
The guy is used as a pupet. The Democrats feed him propaganda and he posts it here. I actively combat his propaganda by commenting on every article he posts. You can do the same... help expose michaels pinko roots and yellow journalism!!
SCO: 800-726-8649
Verisign: 800-361-8319, 888-642-9675
Diebold: 800-433-VOTE (8683)
If I had to peg a political party for the people here, it would be Libertarian...yes a lot of people here don't like bush, but look how much free-market rhetoric also gets tossed about here. ...not that it's fair to make statements like that. Generally you see +5s from either side of any argument, unless it's something just blatantly stupid like Bush using pop-up ads.
Member of Orkut? Annoyed with spam?
I own a small business and I donate to Bush. Taxes are too high, and I want terrorists hunted down and shot to death, not treated like a "law enforcement problem" like Kerry wants.
We don't have a state-run media we have a media-run state.
Is he ( Bush ) or is he not promoting this?
/. has had an opinion about *any* use/abuse of popups/popunders along with any unsolicited messaging. Also seem to apply from the "your rights online" category.
Is that not inflammatory?
Why shouldnt he be handed his head? If it was a democrat, you ( as a group, perhaps not as an individual ) would be posting the inflammatory "gosh, there they go again" stuff.
And just for the record, I am tired of the attempts to stigmatize anyone who has an opinion "on the left". Where is the "open debate" there? You know what I mean.
Are the Republicans above bashing those with dissenting views? Are they for open debate? That has not been my experience.
"How is this an article about News for Nerds". Well, it is about a political use of the internet. Seems to me that it applies in that
"This is nothing more than a vehicle for attacking President Bush...". See top of my post, but also, is he perfect? Seems to me that according to your wish for "open debate", this is very topical. It shows how public policy is being distorted to promote a particular agenda.
emt 377 emt 4
And then someone uses the word "folks" to mean "enemies" and people realize that you're a Republican repeatatron. When al Qaeda bombs a capital, and that government hijacks the backlash to attack a preferred enemy instead, Spanish folks take back their government to ensure security. In November, American folks will do the same.
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Please do not post topics on the US elections on weekday early mornings, since snarky Europeans wake up earlier than us. Try later in the day when mostly Americans are at work, or on weekends, since it seems few Europeans work or post to slashdot on weekends.
If this let you search your neighbor's RFID tags from Wal-Mart, the Slashdot crowd would be saying what a major privacy breach this is.
Macintosh humor! MacComedy.com
Someone should tell these politicians that irritating pop ups are a dumb move. They're quite easy to block. Since I abandoned the aging IE for Chimera (now Camino) and then Safari, I've not been troubled by a single one of the pests. If only spam could be eliminated as easily.
Sigh, this is yet another indication of the cultural divide between those who "get it" and understand computers and those who don't. The Democrats are as bad as these Republicans. Gore left me with a disgusting feeling that he thought I was too stupid to get a computer or get online without a "Federal Faciliator of Computers" benevolently looking over my shoulder.
--Mike Perry, Seattle
http://www.inklingbooks.com/
Yes, like I'd vote for a guy who keeps sending me something I hate.
A better strategy would be to use pop ads to attack your opponents (leaving out your name completely). You get angry at the pop up ad and, of course, irrationally blame the guy who the pop up ad criticizes.
By the McCain-Feingold (Feinstein?) Act, that would be illegal. But that never stopped spammers, did it?
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Clinton retired undefeated in 2001. He's not running for anything in 2004.
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GMontag? Is that you, you neocon Coulter ass-licking loonie?
The Democrats are still waiting to see what their lastest focus group says about pop-ups before deciding how they feel about them.
"I supported pop-ups right before I voted against them!" - John Kerry
Macintosh humor! MacComedy.com
RFID signals broadcast from advertisements will be used in conjunction with the RFID tags now secretly being placed in your contact lenses to permit 24 hour total penis enlargement awareness.
Funny. Very funny.
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You make the fatal assumption that the Republicans actually do things that can have a positive interpretation without lying about it. Spin is one thing - lying another...
That is all.
What the hell is the difference between a republican and a conservative or a liberal and democrat? The words conservative and liberal were invented to imply there is some philosophy besides vote pandering that guides the parties. Also why the hell do these words--conservative, liberal, left, right--imply a line of thought with magnetic poles at the end. What would a person be who was against abortion and the death penalty? Half liberal/half conservative?
Propaganda and talking points.
Personification of the United States government, 21st century style!
"Hey Albert, Good luck exploring the infinite abyss."
"Its obvious that the Democrats can do no wrong on Slashdot. There has never once been posted anything that could be considered disparaging to the Democrats."
/. is because they haven't gotten much press on /. at all.
"please find me *any* even remotely negative story about
any of the Dem contenders or the previous administration on
slashdot."
Please tell me again how my reply is irrelivant to this thread and how I am the one stuck in the past?
Hey, and maybe the reason the dem candidates haven't much negative press on
Any sufficiently advanced influence is indistinguishable from control.
...but you can read all about it here.
According to the article Opensecrets.org provides a similar service...
Anybody who says the Internet "hasn't changed politics" (re: ex-candidate Dean)...well, I'd point to this a solid real-life example that it has.
"That's back to only July 1999 and only on negative articles that mention Clinton."
Your Clinton fetish is showing. He's not a candidate in 2004. Why don't you focus your angst on someone you can do something about, make your life better: dump Bush in November and get a competent government to clean up the mess we've got.
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It has become increasingly evident that there
needs to be either (1) restrictions on the
issuing of Viagra (et.al.) to politicians,
or (2) a combined FDA/Nat. Academy of Science
study on the impact of loss of blood flow
on the mental facilities (and party agenda).
(double entendre intended)
Ques) At what point during Senator Dole's
presidential campaign against Bill Clinton
in 1992 did he effectively lose interest?
Ans) When he got his 1st Viagra prescription
(ed. note: Dole later became the USA poster
child for "Viagra For Politicians")
Ques) At what point did Alan Greenspan (Fed.
Reserve) lose his financial acumen?
Ans) When he married a babe 40 years his junior,
and needed that Viagra prescription.
A proper formal investigation may well determine
that it is not in America's best interests for
ANY politician to make new laws in any period
less that 72 hours AFTER taking Viagra.
"A quick lookup of my street address was extremely insightful. I recognized many of the names from my years in the business community and guess what? Most of the Republican donors are owners and officers of companies who have been laying off workers (and outsourcing their work) with most contributing $2000 checks from every person in their household. The Dems, on the other hand, had more contributors, but they were much smaller contributions ($50 - $500) and mostly from small business owners and average Joe's -- many retirees."
That may be true where you live, but according to the FatCats index on fundrace.org, Kerry has more wealthy contributors than Bush.
I am not a statistician, so I wouldn't put too much faith in these results.
Sigs are for losers
I wonder what effect it could have on a politicians career when a Mass. Senator claims NY as his home. Edward M. Kennedy
huh, I was looking at the citysearch on fundrace, and... *drumroll* as it turns out, the Senior VP of Diebold lives 20 minutes from me. Fundrace Page Suprise, suprise, he gave $2,000 to Dubya.
Yeah...it all makes sense now...
See, a good Slashdot article..conspiracy, bashing MS, and a shot at the Republicans...
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
The toolbar is a great addin into Internet Explorer. So far it has blocked 1284 ads for me! If you use IE, I would highly advise downloading it at:
http://toolbar.google.com/.
Happy Blocking!
Taylor, the RNC spokeswoman, said the party is simply trying to expand its reach. She's heard the knocks on pop-up ads but said they need not be an annoyance.
"If people don't want to read it, they'll just click the little `x'" to close the ad, she said.
If only we could click on a "little x" to close this presidential term as well...
For your security, this post has been encrypted with ROT-13, twice.
The inventor of the pop up should be tied to a tree and fed exlax for a week. Anyone who uses them for advertising should be tied to a tree a fed exlax for a month.
Just because it's there doesn't mean you have to use it.
Professional Politicians are not the solution, they ARE the problem.
They're the ones who read the mail.
That was the courtesy reach around. He's saving the fucking for a second term. We're all going to look like the goatse.cx guy....
Congratulations. You just proved the (great-grand)parent's point.
Forest Labor Camp? Nah, they're going to strip them bare with the "healthy forests act" We don't need no stinkin forests here!
Aside from popup-blocking browsers, the thing to realize is that most often, they won't open 15 million popups, they'll open one or two for every one that you close.
This is just the last time I checked, of course. Now I use firefox on Linux, so I have no real knowledge of viruses or popups -- I just don't get them.
Don't thank God, thank a doctor!
Hey Republican: If the hood fits, wear it!
...I mean other than michael to push his wing-nut politics on people?
Yup, I know the feeling. I got modded as "redundent" and "offtopic" today for posting almost the exact same thing (pointing out the blatant left-slant /. has been taking). This isn't the fucking drudge report, this is /. and if they keep using it to promote a political agenda, I'll be the first to boycott it.
You are right about one thing: Democrats do tend to copy the Republicans. And unfortunately hot-button deliberately offensive brainless rhetoric is at the top of their borrowings. But at least they haven't gotten quite as good at it yet.
TIA.
Hey! Some of us do try to follow the Swiss referendums.
How did that one on the carrier-pigeons back in 1996 end?
I kind of forgot to follow-up that one.
Can you say "Telescreen"? I KNEW you could!
The question is whether Bush can win the elections if he gets similar follow-up votes on pop-ups that spammers do when peddling their wares.
"The obvious mathematical breakthrough would be development of an easy way to factor large prime numbers." Bill Gates,
sorry
Turn off JavaScript support in your browser.
A new, low-cost internet version of the 4 AM robocalling of New Hampshire voters supposedly by the Dean campaign?
Erik
YOU ARE SAYING IMPUDENCE TO ME! THAT IS IMPUDENCE!
And I thought that most of Slashdotters used non-IE browsers like Mozilla and Opera that blocked pop-ups...
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its a DAMN good thing mozilla blocks pop-ups. I've heard enough republican bs advertising already.
Just kidding... I'm voting Bush in the next election.
wrong.. [opensecrets.org]
Seems the 200+ number is slightly higher in R that D but once you pass 1000+ D starts winning out. [opensecrets.org]
Among the biggest dollar contributions D rein supreme. [opensecrets.org]
Wow, take a look at that top 100 donors - Dems kicking and collecting much booty; wonder what Kerry's problem is.
Gary Pitek
Retired
Not employed
Howard Dean
$30 1028 Adams Ln
Winters, CA 95694
HAHAH my elemtary school teacher was a Dean supporter LOL. I would have guessed him as such, he used to make us fingerpaint like motherfuckers. I think he is still a teacher there, I dont know why he put 'not employed'. Good ol Mr. Pitek
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