Now it's Gannett (USA TODAY) owning the NBC and PAX affiliates, another network owns CBS and UPN stations, another ABC, another WB.
Now if only the PAX station wasn't owned by the people running NBC-2 and UPN was still shown by some small indy network, we'd be in business. Just wait. The company that runs 7 will scoop up the WB. Gloomp.
I guess I misinterpreted you on "hosted". Mea culpa.
I think Hi-tech C makes short=8 bits and long=16 bits (!). Yeah, I know that's pathological, but...
Now if only I could write a C runtime targeting CP/M-86, I already have a freestanding compiler (believe it or not, it's Turbo C++ 1.01 without the runtime library), and it would be easier than using that K&R thing DRI wrote. And produce smaller code;)
-uso. Know C and TASM? Want to help me write a C runtime for CP/M-86? e-mail me *g*
Defeated racism sewat? Have you ever stopped to think about the possibility of blacks discriminating against whites? Or ethnic Anglos discriminating against ethnic Jews?
Racism is in our bones. We can fight it, but it will never go away.
Who says a compiler has to be hosted? So it's a cross-compiler, big frickin' deal. At least there's *some* stdio in the Apple ][ library, unlike the C16's.
BTW, cc65 is at least an ANSI ('89 spec?) C compiler. I had to roll my own gets replacement for cc65 but otherwise one program I wrote - made heavy use of the string functions - worked almost unmodified. And it won't even compile on Hi-Tech C, which is a CP/M-80 compiler, running on CP/M-80 and supporting ANSI C (it overflows memory).
cc65 certainly is a standard compiler. The libraries are weak, but they're separate from the compiler (RTWS).
-uso. And with a little kludging the Java 65C02 emulator ran in a C compiler...
I suggest we start a large charity organisation and distribute a copy of 1984 to every American citizen. It might hopefully open the minds of the millions of Americans who admire Dubya Bush most.
What we need to do, IMHO, is fight the bureaucracy (not the government per se, but just PARTS of it like the ATF, FBI, CIA etc.) on all fronts until (a) they give up or (b) we determine that there is no solution other than to secede, at which point we do so. And that's our fscking RIGHT, dammit!
Because most people don't associate Sailor Moon S and animé. For most people, animé={DBZ, Beyblade, Tenchi Muyo, hentai,...} and they forget that Digimon, Pokémon, Sailor Moon, Speed Racer and even Transformers Armada (!) are animé. Not to mention all those masterworks (Skycastle Laputa, My Neighbor Totoro, Kiki's Delivery Service, etc.) that Hayao Miyazaki (surely you slashdotters have heard of him? Didn't he just get nom'd for an Oscar or something?) has cranked out over the years. And lesser known stuff like Doraëmon and An Pan Man *g*. There's a lot more to animé than the American masses see. And I've hardly scratched the surface? "Kimagure Orange Road" r0x0r! I need more eps of Kodomo no Omocha! *g*
Back to my point, though, I think "Sailor Moon S" (or more accurately, "Bi-shójo Senshi Sérámún Súpá") was one of the best series of all time. Okay, so there were only 38 episodes. And yeah, Cloverway fscked it up ROYALLY (can anyone say "cousins"?). I was fortunate enough to have bought copies of the VKLL version back in '99, when English S was still a pipe dream, and I've watched them over and over (and often found glaring errors in translation: the Daimon in the "glass slipper" episode should be called "Cenicienta" - AFAIK, Spanish for "Cinderella"). It's a lot more *dense* than DBZ or most other animé out there. There's a real storyline (horrors!). It's about "ordinary" people being hero(ine)s; it's not hard to identify.
Now if only we could import Sailor Stars. (Uh, kora, Chibi-chibi, yame nasai!)
Perhaps you're right. I however don't differentiate internally between a char* and an array of chars, so int argc, char **argv makes more sense to me, and that's what every one of my programs has used (and I don't know any case where there would be a difference, but then again, all of my code targets only DOS, CP/M-86 or CP/M-80, occasionally getting ported down to *x).
I also wonder if there's such a thing as a compiler that would create code that chokes on void main(void), a common construct in some of my quickie programs. It made sense for me to say void main(void), because I received no command line, and emitted no errorlevel (exit code). C Robocrook is written this way.
Then again, what about int main (int foo, char **bar, char **grill)? (Only for those systems which pass environ here; DOS doesn't). Also, some systems that have C compilers have no way to receive or send data from a calling process, so making main() a void function that takes no parameters would perhaps be more logical here (cf. cc65).
-uso. Looking for a logical way to take CS:80h and turn it into argc/argv (under CP/M-86 and Turbo C++).
Most of my "help me!" posts have a subject line of ":\..." or some-such. (And I try to avoid my usual "Mu, hen da na" comments) I usually explain the problem as well as I can. Here's an example, names have been changed to protect the guilty, but this is an actual problem I had with one program.
Program "grill" when compiled for djgpp (gcc 3.03) says: "Can't open foo.bar: (null): No such file or directory (ENOENT)"
If I modify the fread() call that appears to trigger it, so that it passes successfully in any case, it segfaults and regdumps.
I usually try to decipher English (or at least, European - "pan"~~Spanish, "shabon"~~Portuguese, "arubaito"~~German) words when I see katakana in Japanese writing. It's quite common in Sailor Moon songs, for example, to use English words. Naoko Takeuchi herself used a whole mess of them. ("watashi wa 'runa', 'ereganto' na kuro-neko" = "I'm Luna, an elegant black cat" - full lyrics to this song)
In this list we have the following words in katakana: "neko" (cat), "myao" (meow), "daiji" (important), "mikadzuki atama" (crescent-head), "ippai" (full), etc., which are mostly Japanese - katakana is used here for emphasis. But there's also "tenisu-kóto", "purinsesu", "rubí", "ereganto", which are all English-derived words!
I wish that Japanese didn't use Kanji, but at least stuff that's not heavy on kanji (unfortunately a lot of stuff is heavy on the kanji) I can at least read aloud, and sometimes even grok. I speak English natively, and Japanese is my fourth (!) language.
Under DOS, I use packages included with FreeDOS/V, and also the shareware (ugh) word processor NJSTAR 3.1j, for most of my work with Japanese. I don't need anything else (but a free/open Japanese WP would be nice! Even if it required DOS/V for console output.)
The above program will not link correctly on the cc65 compiler when targeting the Commodore C16-Plus/4, as there is no stdio at *all* in the C16 runtime.
It also won't work with my cc86 project (Turbo C++ 1.01 to CP/M-86 cross-compiler), because cc86 has *no* runtime at all, except for the startup code that calls main(). See below for an example of how to use cc86 to write a hello world program.
-uso. /* Hello World program for cc86 */ #include <8088.h>/* may need to be cpm.h on the current version */
int lputc (int c) {
if (c==0) return 0;
if (c=='\n') lputc('\r');/* newline translation */
_CL=2;/* put char to console */
_DL=c;
geninterrupt(224);/* CP/M */
return c; }
void lputs (char *s) {
while (lputc(*(s++))); }
void main (void)/* XXX: how to pass argc/argv in start86? */ {
lputs ("Hello world\n"); }
Like looking for the legendary "DOSPLUS 2" OS for PCs. It's hard as fsck to find, but it's known to exist...and no amount of STFW will do anything...:\
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Over here, we used to have 2 PBS stations... (!)
Now it's Gannett (USA TODAY) owning the NBC and PAX affiliates, another network owns CBS and UPN stations, another ABC, another WB.
Now if only the PAX station wasn't owned by the people running NBC-2 and UPN was still shown by some small indy network, we'd be in business. Just wait. The company that runs 7 will scoop up the WB. Gloomp.
-uso.
Would certainly reduce the number of OT fr1st ps0ts (yeah, I'm guilty of that too)...
-uso.
Depends. Some people are trying to get others to write the ß as ss.
-uso.
I didn't try to, but somehow I managed to get a fr1st ps0t on another topic *g*
Finally, and without even trying, I get a first post. *g*
-uso.
"min'na wa baka da yo..."
The day is coming. "They" do want 1984 to come even if it's 20..25..30 years late.
-uso.
SCO doesn't own the trademark "UNIX", the Open Group does. And I think IBM might be part of the Open Group.
BTW, I'd kill if SCO open-sourced UNIX *g*
(Means the other *xen will be able to copy Unix the legal way!) *g*
-uso.
SCO's OS was originally MS's, BTW. ;)
-uso.
Questionability of amendments noted. Will look into. ;)
-uso.
Freedom Is Not Free
I guess I misinterpreted you on "hosted". Mea culpa.
;)
I think Hi-tech C makes short=8 bits and long=16 bits (!). Yeah, I know that's pathological, but...
Now if only I could write a C runtime targeting CP/M-86, I already have a freestanding compiler (believe it or not, it's Turbo C++ 1.01 without the runtime library), and it would be easier than using that K&R thing DRI wrote. And produce smaller code
-uso.
Know C and TASM? Want to help me write a C runtime for CP/M-86? e-mail me *g*
AOL !!!
%Personal Self Govt 100
%Economic Self Govt 60
Class: Libertarian (10% ESG above being borderline Left-Liberal)
-uso.
Defeated racism sewat? Have you ever stopped to think about the possibility of blacks discriminating against whites? Or ethnic Anglos discriminating against ethnic Jews?
Racism is in our bones. We can fight it, but it will never go away.
-uso.
Ever notice this?
In Semitic languages (e.g., Hebrew and Arabic) the root forms of words are formed from three-consonant clusters.
In Arabic, "-in" is a plural suffix. Not sure about "mu-" though.
Consonants of "jihad" -> JHD
Consonants of "mujahid" (singular of "mujahidin") -> MJHD
Coincidence? I don't think so.
-uso.
No, I don't know Arabic or Hebrew.
Who says a compiler has to be hosted? So it's a cross-compiler, big frickin' deal. At least there's *some* stdio in the Apple ][ library, unlike the C16's.
BTW, cc65 is at least an ANSI ('89 spec?) C compiler. I had to roll my own gets replacement for cc65 but otherwise one program I wrote - made heavy use of the string functions - worked almost unmodified. And it won't even compile on Hi-Tech C, which is a CP/M-80 compiler, running on CP/M-80 and supporting ANSI C (it overflows memory).
cc65 certainly is a standard compiler. The libraries are weak, but they're separate from the compiler (RTWS).
-uso.
And with a little kludging the Java 65C02 emulator ran in a C compiler...
We didn't have to read 1984, but we did have to read Animal Farm. Look up for a link.
-uso.
I suggest we start a large charity organisation and distribute a copy of 1984 to every American citizen. It might hopefully open the minds of the millions of Americans who admire Dubya Bush most.
Easier done than said. *g* <gropes around> Aha! "Hai!"
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And while you're at it, look at Animal Farm too.
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*hides pegleg*
What we need to do, IMHO, is fight the bureaucracy (not the government per se, but just PARTS of it like the ATF, FBI, CIA etc.) on all fronts until (a) they give up or (b) we determine that there is no solution other than to secede, at which point we do so. And that's our fscking RIGHT, dammit!
-uso.
Because most people don't associate Sailor Moon S and animé. For most people, animé={DBZ, Beyblade, Tenchi Muyo, hentai, ...} and they forget that Digimon, Pokémon, Sailor Moon, Speed Racer and even Transformers Armada (!) are animé. Not to mention all those masterworks (Skycastle Laputa, My Neighbor Totoro, Kiki's Delivery Service, etc.) that Hayao Miyazaki (surely you slashdotters have heard of him? Didn't he just get nom'd for an Oscar or something?) has cranked out over the years. And lesser known stuff like Doraëmon and An Pan Man *g*. There's a lot more to animé than the American masses see. And I've hardly scratched the surface? "Kimagure Orange Road" r0x0r! I need more eps of Kodomo no Omocha! *g*
Back to my point, though, I think "Sailor Moon S" (or more accurately, "Bi-shójo Senshi Sérámún Súpá") was one of the best series of all time. Okay, so there were only 38 episodes. And yeah, Cloverway fscked it up ROYALLY (can anyone say "cousins"?). I was fortunate enough to have bought copies of the VKLL version back in '99, when English S was still a pipe dream, and I've watched them over and over (and often found glaring errors in translation: the Daimon in the "glass slipper" episode should be called "Cenicienta" - AFAIK, Spanish for "Cinderella"). It's a lot more *dense* than DBZ or most other animé out there. There's a real storyline (horrors!). It's about "ordinary" people being hero(ine)s; it's not hard to identify.
Now if only we could import Sailor Stars. (Uh, kora, Chibi-chibi, yame nasai!)
-uso.
Perhaps you're right. I however don't differentiate internally between a char* and an array of chars, so int argc, char **argv makes more sense to me, and that's what every one of my programs has used (and I don't know any case where there would be a difference, but then again, all of my code targets only DOS, CP/M-86 or CP/M-80, occasionally getting ported down to *x).
I also wonder if there's such a thing as a compiler that would create code that chokes on void main(void), a common construct in some of my quickie programs. It made sense for me to say void main(void), because I received no command line, and emitted no errorlevel (exit code). C Robocrook is written this way.
Then again, what about int main (int foo, char **bar, char **grill)? (Only for those systems which pass environ here; DOS doesn't). Also, some systems that have C compilers have no way to receive or send data from a calling process, so making main() a void function that takes no parameters would perhaps be more logical here (cf. cc65).
-uso.
Looking for a logical way to take CS:80h and turn it into argc/argv (under CP/M-86 and Turbo C++).
Most of my "help me!" posts have a subject line of ":\..." or some-such. (And I try to avoid my usual "Mu, hen da na" comments) I usually explain the problem as well as I can. Here's an example, names have been changed to protect the guilty, but this is an actual problem I had with one program.
Program "grill" when compiled for djgpp (gcc 3.03) says: "Can't open foo.bar: (null): No such file or directory (ENOENT)"
If I modify the fread() call that appears to trigger it, so that it passes successfully in any case, it segfaults and regdumps.
-uso.
Way to go !!! Mod parent up for 5 Insightful. *g*
-uso.
Do I smell burning corpses in Salem, MA?
It's all Noah Webster's fault (no, I'm NOT kidding).
-uso.
Uses a bizarre mixture of American and British spelling.
I usually try to decipher English (or at least, European - "pan"~~Spanish, "shabon"~~Portuguese, "arubaito"~~German) words when I see katakana in Japanese writing. It's quite common in Sailor Moon songs, for example, to use English words. Naoko Takeuchi herself used a whole mess of them. ("watashi wa 'runa', 'ereganto' na kuro-neko" = "I'm Luna, an elegant black cat" - full lyrics to this song)
In this list we have the following words in katakana: "neko" (cat), "myao" (meow), "daiji" (important), "mikadzuki atama" (crescent-head), "ippai" (full), etc., which are mostly Japanese - katakana is used here for emphasis. But there's also "tenisu-kóto", "purinsesu", "rubí", "ereganto", which are all English-derived words!
I wish that Japanese didn't use Kanji, but at least stuff that's not heavy on kanji (unfortunately a lot of stuff is heavy on the kanji) I can at least read aloud, and sometimes even grok. I speak English natively, and Japanese is my fourth (!) language.
Under DOS, I use packages included with FreeDOS/V, and also the shareware (ugh) word processor NJSTAR 3.1j, for most of my work with Japanese. I don't need anything else (but a free/open Japanese WP would be nice! Even if it required DOS/V for console output.)
-uso.
The above program will not link correctly on the cc65 compiler when targeting the Commodore C16-Plus/4, as there is no stdio at *all* in the C16 runtime.
/* Hello World program for cc86 */ /* may need to be cpm.h on the current version */
/* newline translation */ /* put char to console */ /* CP/M */
/* XXX: how to pass argc/argv in start86? */
It also won't work with my cc86 project (Turbo C++ 1.01 to CP/M-86 cross-compiler), because cc86 has *no* runtime at all, except for the startup code that calls main(). See below for an example of how to use cc86 to write a hello world program.
-uso.
#include <8088.h>
int lputc (int c)
{
if (c==0) return 0;
if (c=='\n') lputc('\r');
_CL=2;
_DL=c;
geninterrupt(224);
return c;
}
void lputs (char *s)
{
while (lputc(*(s++)));
}
void main (void)
{
lputs ("Hello world\n");
}
Can someone give me an honest answer why "main (int argc, char **argv)" wouldn't work just as well?
-uso.
Consistently using "void main(void)" all these years.
Like looking for the legendary "DOSPLUS 2" OS for PCs. It's hard as fsck to find, but it's known to exist...and no amount of STFW will do anything... :\
-uso.