Re:What, like x86 instruction set?
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You said it...
The ideal CPU core would be one designed around C++ and/or Java, which seem to be the most common major-app development languages in use today, although I could be wrong. Hmm...What about a CPU that natively grokked Java?
Even M$-DOS has bash. *g* And anyway, who says bash has anything to do with Linux? It's like saying "Victor MS-DOS 2.11 supports the 'ls' command, ergo it must be *x", no. What makes it DOS-like as I mentioned above is the fact that DOS command execution was an underlying part of the design of the OS (as in the older versions of NT).
It's not just M$ I'm talking about here. What about DeviceLogics (DR-DOS), the FreeDOS project, Datalight (ROM-DOS), or whoever made Embedded DOS-ROM? Or what about the CP/M-86 derivatives (REAL/32) that have DOS command support?
What I'm lumping together is OSes that have as part of their fundamental design the ability to run M$-DOS applications.
And no, PS1="C:" doesn't count. (Neither does PS1="`pwd`>")
Good Ol' Dos, still the GOD of the computer world...need I say more?
-uso. AT keyboard, VGA monitor, 1.44 MB floppy drive, two IDE hard disks, CDRW, ISA sound card...these are all legacy, and they are so essential to my use of my computer!
Depends whether you think the Bourne Shell (UNIX 7) is a legacy app.
BTW, I've heard of people getting to a V7 Bourne prompt $ on an MSX2.;) I'd kill for a copy of that. All I can run on that UZIX thing is SASH, and that's not good enough for me *g*
You may note I lumped OS/2 in there. If it has the ability to run a C: prompt, it's legacy, even if it isn't DOS.
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Re:Let's hear it for legacy free!
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VGA modern? Come ON, folks, VGA has been around since the 80s (1987)! Time to move on to S-Video!
-uso. Give me VGA or give me Death.
Re:I'd rather...
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LOL. BTW, a legacy-free PC wouldn't be legacy free if (a) it ran a DOS-type OS (including Win9x, OS/2, NT, XP,...) or (b) it had an x86-class CPU. Legacy-free? You'd be more likely to find an LF MAC than an LF PC.
Not to mention all the variants of the BSD license. For example uuencode's license is not the same as either the so-called "classic BSD license" *or* the "revised BSD license", although the terms are the same as the "classic"...then three variants (Nethack, GPL1, GPL2) of the GNU license...and all the BSD/MIT spinoffs...
I use only one of two licenses for my programs: BSD Revised or GPL. Makes it easier *g*
More familiar than you think...here, Tops Markets gobbled up or forced out every other supermarket in the city until Wegmans came in just a couple years ago, and Aldi and Save-A-Lot after that...face it, not a lot of choice here, there's 3 Tops, about 15 Wilson Farms convenience stores (owned by Tops), 1 Wegmans, 1 Aldi (out in the middle of nowhere) and 1 Save-A-Lot, and this isn't a big city.
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You said it...
The ideal CPU core would be one designed around C++ and/or Java, which seem to be the most common major-app development languages in use today, although I could be wrong. Hmm...What about a CPU that natively grokked Java?
-uso.
Even M$-DOS has bash. *g* And anyway, who says bash has anything to do with Linux? It's like saying "Victor MS-DOS 2.11 supports the 'ls' command, ergo it must be *x", no. What makes it DOS-like as I mentioned above is the fact that DOS command execution was an underlying part of the design of the OS (as in the older versions of NT).
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bash-2.04$ uname
IBMPcDOS
bash-2.04$ _
It's not just M$ I'm talking about here. What about DeviceLogics (DR-DOS), the FreeDOS project, Datalight (ROM-DOS), or whoever made Embedded DOS-ROM? Or what about the CP/M-86 derivatives (REAL/32) that have DOS command support?
What I'm lumping together is OSes that have as part of their fundamental design the ability to run M$-DOS applications.
And no, PS1="C:" doesn't count. (Neither does PS1="`pwd`>")
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I see you translated my name. *g*
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Emulates the PC BIOS, eh? Hmm...
Usotsuki's Judgment: Legacy
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DOS UI and userland is available. In this respect there is a similarity between DOS and 2K.
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Good Ol' Dos, still the GOD of the computer world...need I say more?
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AT keyboard, VGA monitor, 1.44 MB floppy drive, two IDE hard disks, CDRW, ISA sound card...these are all legacy, and they are so essential to my use of my computer!
Depends whether you think the Bourne Shell (UNIX 7) is a legacy app.
;) I'd kill for a copy of that. All I can run on that UZIX thing is SASH, and that's not good enough for me *g*
BTW, I've heard of people getting to a V7 Bourne prompt $ on an MSX2.
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I refer to stuff that runs "native", not through emulation software.
:)
Otherwise any machine that runs Dapple ][ would be lumped in the category of "Apple ][ with Integer BASIC and Monitor ROM" - now THAT is legacy!
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Let me qualify that. The *native OS* can get to a C: prompt. And "bash$" doesn't count.
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Ergo, it's a BIOS. Not a PC compatible BIOS, but still a BIOS. *g*
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You may note I lumped OS/2 in there. If it has the ability to run a C: prompt, it's legacy, even if it isn't DOS.
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VGA modern? Come ON, folks, VGA has been around since the 80s (1987)! Time to move on to S-Video!
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Give me VGA or give me Death.
LOL. BTW, a legacy-free PC wouldn't be legacy free if (a) it ran a DOS-type OS (including Win9x, OS/2, NT, XP, ...) or (b) it had an x86-class CPU. Legacy-free? You'd be more likely to find an LF MAC than an LF PC.
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Opinion: BSD is dying
Let's put it this way, BSD will not die as long as MacOS X exists. Plus note, it's not about the market share if you can grok the source code!
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BSD r0x0r!
(Yeah, I know, I'm -1 Offtopic.)
You want a nice minimalist interface?
:) Now that's minimalist.
Anyone got ad-free hosting and wants to shove a copy of mugoogle.htm on it?
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Then too bad you can't go to terminator3.com :(
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Flash 6 already?! And I thought v5 was suX0r.
Yep ;) You probably know the city in question too...the hellhole that people think will be improved by a bloody casino.
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Bills r0x0r!
A "piece-of-eight" was an old Spanish coin which had a value of $1. It could be broken in eight bits, hence, "two bits" = $0.25 or a quarter.
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Do I smell "frivolous lawsuit" ?
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Ashcroft on Civil Rights: We Don't Need No Stinking Civil Rights!
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SSDD
UCSD Pascal! And if you can't run it native, download Dapple ][ and run it on an Apple //e emulator.
Nothing new here, move along.
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Not to mention all the variants of the BSD license. For example uuencode's license is not the same as either the so-called "classic BSD license" *or* the "revised BSD license", although the terms are the same as the "classic"...then three variants (Nethack, GPL1, GPL2) of the GNU license...and all the BSD/MIT spinoffs...
I use only one of two licenses for my programs: BSD Revised or GPL. Makes it easier *g*
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They should remove the WCW from the list, since the WWF (I refuse to call it by its current name) bought it up.
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More familiar than you think...here, Tops Markets gobbled up or forced out every other supermarket in the city until Wegmans came in just a couple years ago, and Aldi and Save-A-Lot after that...face it, not a lot of choice here, there's 3 Tops, about 15 Wilson Farms convenience stores (owned by Tops), 1 Wegmans, 1 Aldi (out in the middle of nowhere) and 1 Save-A-Lot, and this isn't a big city.
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