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The FCC and Media Consolidation

An anonymous reader writes "A story on this evening's All Things Considered but also at Now with Bill Moyers reports this June, the FCC will choose whether to keep or drop longstanding rules limiting the number of media outlets (radio stations, TV stations, etc.) a company may hold in a single area. That means all the radio stations in your area, for example, may one day be controlled by one company, like Clearchannel or Rupert Murdoch's FOX Communications. One irony is virtually no news outlet is covering the story. Another is the justifying argument for this move comes from the emergence of new media, like the Internet and Cable/Satellite. Yet with all 100's of new TV channels available, there are only five major media companies out there controlling them all, and recent copyright rules applying to the Internet have all but squelched-out Internet radio. So the old rules might not be so outdated after all. But the only voices being heard in this argument are coming from the media giants." In a related story, AOL/Time-Warner is petitioning the FCC to lift the restriction forbidding AOL from launching "advanced" IM services without letting others access the IM network.

189 comments

  1. moron feigning diversity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    what's the difference between won & 25won channels, if they all spew the same Godless payper liesense hostage ransom stock markup fraud, PaRty LIEn?

  2. public comment by gumbi+west · · Score: 2, Interesting

    is there a public comment that anyone knows about?

    1. Re:public comment by Cid+Highwind · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yes.
      Write your comment on the back of a check for $12,000,000 and mail it to your state's Republican party.

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    2. Re:public comment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unless I am mistaken (since I was not paying 100% attention to the radio at the time) I believe that last night on the NPR news, Michael Powell came out and said something to the extent that regardless of what the public may think, that will have no effect on the FCC's decision.

      Can someone else please confirm this?

    3. Re:public comment by Jeremy+Erwin · · Score: 1

      But remember, the fcc intends not to listen to public comments, unless empirical data is presented. Get researching!

    4. Re:public comment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      From the epilogue of the Bill Moyers piece, it would appear the parties are divided among themselves on this issue. Some Democrats urged the FCC for quick action forward, while some Republicans pressed for more public review. The only person completely sure of himself and shredding all the rules is the chairman of the FCC, a Republican.

      Republicans, for example, favor deregulation, but they also tend to favor community values. They have to pay attention to big busine$$, but they've never been friends with big media (maybe excepting FOX) and they're supposed champion small-business as the key to the future of the economy.

      Both small (media) businesses and community values would be crushed by media monopolies. I think the jury is still out where the party chips are going to fall.

    5. Re:public comment by k-0s · · Score: 1
      Republicans, for example, favor deregulation, but they also tend to favor community values. They have to pay attention to big busine$$, but they've never been friends with big media (maybe excepting FOX) and they're supposed champion small-business as the key to the future of the economy.


      MAYBE except Fox?
    6. Re:public comment by Zathras11 · · Score: 0

      Or more likely, write your comment on a brown
      paper bag and fill it with $12,000,000 in cash
      and take it to your state's Democrat party.
      Don't have $12,000,000, no problem. You can
      hold a coffee at Daschle or Hillary's, or a
      fund raiser with monks.

    7. Re:public comment by /dev/trash · · Score: 1

      Funny.
      My District is 98% Republican and has Republican Congresscritters, yet we don't have a Clearchannel or Infinity radio station in the District. Now the next District over...that's Democrat and it has 3 ClearChannel stations.

    8. Re:public comment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My comment:

      "All Things Considered" is really "All Things which are anti-George Bush and anti-conservative considered"

    9. Re:public comment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like you live in the boondocks and there is a city nearby.

      Clear Channel doesn't waste money on rednecks.

    10. Re:public comment by hesiod · · Score: 1

      Hey, that's flamebait, let's eat!!!!

      $12m to the republicans or $20m to the democrats... Being "correct" comes at a cost.

    11. Re:public comment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only "official" public comment period occured on February 27, 2003 in Richmond, Virginia -- where I live.

      I attended the hearing. Not a single citizen got up to speak in favor relaxing restrictions on ownership. The only people that spoke in favor were broadcasters.

      Here's a link my friend put up relating to the hearing > http://www.broadcastatic.com/fcc/index.html -- The Nation article at the link is best I've seen.

      The commission is required to show that the changes will serve the "public interest." It is expected that there would occur a consolidation similar to that of the radio stations since 1996.

      The interests that are being served are the corporations' rotting economic interests.

      : ) sp

  3. Petition by jeepee · · Score: 1

    I dont understand how you can lift a petiton to brake the interoperability of an IM...
    Who would sign this ?AOL employees ... who want to use IM with the least people possible ?....

    Imagine somebody saying : hey! they are way too much people talking on AIM lets kick those nerds out....

    1. Re:Petition by Sawopox · · Score: 1

      Methinks AOL wishes to break interoperability in order to create a market for their "advanced" IM services. They are hurting in the wallet right now, and IM services are one thing AOL has a hefty market-share on. All they need now is to hook up with say, Verizon or Nextel to offer "premium" wireless IM, for a fee of course. This reminds me of the early cellular company battles over their text messaging services. Don't allow someone elses, possibly cheaper, possibly better, messaging service to work through OUR networks.

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    2. Re:Petition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who cares! Listen, IM is a very new technology. If you want to go and create a closed messaging network - go ahead. Somebody will come along and create an open standard...

      I'm no fan of Microsoft, but I'm also no fan of regulation. Listen, I get my news from bbc.co.uk, sometimes I listen to Rush Limbaugh and sometimes I listen to NPR. Who f**king cares! We've got choice.

    3. Re:Petition by burns210 · · Score: 1

      Unless i misunderstood your post, i think you have it all wrong...

      The ruling AOL is petitioning says that AIM can't have cool next-gen features(video chat or something) unless AOL makes AIM interoperable with MSN, YM, etc. Note, MS and Yahoo want the im clients to talk with AIM, but MS and Yahoo havn't made their clients talk with eachother...

    4. Re:Petition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      see economics post on sibling

  4. Why won't they just accept the fact by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    That broadcast media is different? They've allocated a limited number of airwave slots, airwaves that belong to the people, and so the government does have a stake in protecting their use. Own all the cable stations you want, own all the websites you want, but you shouldn't be able to lease all of our resource. You should be able to use one at a time in a market per type (ie 1 FM, 1 AM and 1 TV max).

    1. Re:Why won't they just accept the fact by BuckaBooBob · · Score: 1

      The current laws do not promote diveristy in content.. A Media company should be able to as many Significantly diverse Mediums in any given area to promote Jobs and Diversity of content. This would make life way more interesting. Right now with the few media conglomerates there are they keep pressure on to keep diversity down to a minimum to maximize profits.. Abolishing the current laws will only aid them in quashing diverse upstarts that will reduce thier market share and force them into more diverse programming.

      After everything is about maximizing profits for as little overhead as possible(or for the least they can get away with). Look at TV for instance.. Get rid of movies and TV shows that yet still may be good but are canceled/retired. and whats actually left to watch on TV not a heck of alot other than educational programming which I am taking a guess here but the ammount of new/diverse educational content is largely due to Government Grants/Incentives for corprate funding ect and the low cost nature of production comapred to Sitcoms and other "Mainstream" TV shows.. (I could be wrong but I would think that is a good reason).

      And really these days the idea of Democracy is pretty much dead as it was origonally intened. The Government for the People Elected by the people has been really demented by corprations.. Its now the Government for the Corprations Elected by the people (Only after corparations have weeded out the people they deem as undesireable to have in power as thier political views could hamper thier business).

      It definately seems that the majority of governments focus is spent on the needs of Corprate America rather than the indivudal.
      it almost seems that the government throws the public enough bones to keep it happy while mostly catering to Corprate America.

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    2. Re:Why won't they just accept the fact by k-0s · · Score: 1

      I agree with you totally for the time being. The reason why I say time being is because I think in the next 10 years the "net" is going to grow up in a serious way. With broadband increasing alot and video codecs getting better and better I think we'll see a few net based video channels spring up which will report whatever news you want to hear. The TV will become like the radio is now, something you'll look/listen to when you're bored with the net or your show isn't on yet. Either that or the TV may actually be displaced by or merged with the net. However, since bandwidth isn't airwaves there shouldn't be any restictions like there is with TV. Truly freedom of the press, i hope...=)

  5. Re:Greenspan's take on this by yokem_55 · · Score: 1

    Mod this down. Misleading link that has nothing to do with Greenspan. Link is actually to http://www.outwar.com/page.php?x=623513 which seems to be more of some kind of popularity counting site.

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  6. Who cares? So what? by LibertineR · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    I guess some of the socialists out there believe that corporations only want SOME of your money. They want money from all sides, no matter how many outlets they own. Therefore, you can expect all points of view to be expressed.

    I for one, would love to see NPR defunded, so that they can sink or swim on their own merit, rather than be subsidized by the government.

    If one entity owns every station in a town; who is stupid enough to think that they will settle only for the advertising dollars of a single point of view. That is like believing a Right wing dollar is worth a dollar, while a left wing dollar is worth only 65 cents.

    Nonsense.

    1. Re:Who cares? So what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This isn't about adverising money, it's about freedom of speech.

      Wonder why mainstream media hasn't reported this? Now imagine what would happen if ALL media would be controlled by a single company...

    2. Re:Who cares? So what? by dvdeug · · Score: 1

      I guess some of the socialists out there believe that corporations only want SOME of your money. They want money from all sides, no matter how many outlets they own. Therefore, you can expect all points of view to be expressed.

      My net wealth is 33 million dollars. I can take a hundred thousand dollar advertising run, or I can help sink the man who would cost me two hundred thousand in taxes. Gee, decisions.

    3. Re:Who cares? So what? by MSTCrow5429 · · Score: 1

      Freedom of speech gives you the right to stand on a street corner and taunt passerbys, or start a conspiracy rag, but certainly the idea that private property should be confiscated so that you can have your own network, radio station, etc. is not included.

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    4. Re:Who cares? So what? by TKinias · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Ordinarily I try just to ignore trolls, but someone actually modded this up...

      scripsit LibertineR:

      I guess some of the socialists out there believe that corporations only want SOME of your money. They want money from all sides, no matter how many outlets they own. Therefore, you can expect all points of view to be expressed.

      [...]

      If one entity owns every station in a town; who is stupid enough to think that they will settle only for the advertising dollars of a single point of view. That is like believing a Right wing dollar is worth a dollar, while a left wing dollar is worth only 65 cents.

      That is just horribly, horribly wrong. Let me give you some simple situations where this doesn't work:

      • One of my major advertisers is XYZ Semiconductors. My investigative journalists (do any of those still exist?) uncover that XYZ's employees, exposed to nasty stuff, are dying off from cancer or whatever. XYZ threatens to pull its advertising; story doesn't run. There isn't another station to run the story, so the truth never gets told.
      • XYZ Semi has a pet candidate for local office. They buy lots of advertising on WFOO and remind WFOO that the XYZ Semi ads will be pulled if WFOO runs another candidate's ads. The other candidate, lacking a major corporate sponsor, can't buy 1000 hours... His dollars aren't worth less, he just has less of them.
      • Or even more directly: Let's say WFOO is owned by BarBaz Holdings, which also owns XYZ Semi. WFOO is instructed by BarBaz not to report on the criminal investigation of XYZ Semi's executives.
      • Or maybe AAA Semi wants to run an ad in this market. They are a direct competitor to XYZ Semi, also owned by WFOO's parent BarBaz... Do you think they let them run ads?

      I could go on ad nauseum. I think this is nauseating enough, though.

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    5. Re:Who cares? So what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      You've got it wrong. Libertarians all too easily forget their liberty can be bought out.

      If all the airwaves are freed to be taken by the highest bidder, economics would favor whoever can capture everything in your community quickest, as then they can raise ad rates w/o competition. Once prices are at their limit, the next step to ensure growth in stock value is to cut expenses, i.e. content.

      You, the listener, ultimately get pre-recorded broadcasts on all you local stations from a mother-site far removed from your community, as happens with Clearchannel stations throughout the country.

      Any news and opinions you get will reflect those of that one company, be it Rupert Murdoch or Steven Spielberg.

      Ultimately, those opinions will reflect the survival interests of the company, irregardless of liberal, conservative, or the interests of you or your community.

    6. Re:Who cares? So what? by Gortbusters.org · · Score: 1

      Oooh, insightful!

      Did you ever watch UHF starring good ole Weird Al? Well that movie covers the same monopolyptic concerns that you're raising.

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    7. Re:Who cares? So what? by Otterley · · Score: 2

      Like medicine, news is not necessarily best served by a purely capitalist model -- especially since the broadcast spectrum allows for far fewer points of view to be expressed than print media.

      Some points of view have more advertiser backing than others. Recall that it's the advertisers who pay for radio stations, not the listeners. Distortions of listener desires occur in the space between the advertisers' customers' money and the advertisers' money.

      Therefore, it makes sense that the vast majority of advertiser dollars will support mainstream, majority points of view, flushing out minority concerns. Public funding helps restore the balance caused by these distortions.

      This is not "socialist" thinking; it's entirely rational given the rules of the game.

    8. Re:Who cares? So what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jesus is this stupid or what. This is the thinking on the right today. They don't.

      But they do want _you_ to stop thinking. Please somebody tell which channel in the U.S. is examining why almost every country on earth is in opposition to the U.S. war in Iraq and its seizure of the oil wells ( or maybe they will eventually be sold to some joint US/"iraqi" company just like the saudis et. al. which is the same thing, Aramco is Arabian American Oil).

      Advertizing dollars. . .

      Which American station has explored the data that shows that _all_ the biological weapons came from the states? All the chemicals came from the states? Which one is looking at the fact that at the time of the chemical attacks by that bastard Sad-Ham, Iraq was the single largest recipient of american foreign aid cash.

      Which American station is looking into the overthrow of democratic governments as American foriegn policy. In Iran 54, in vietnam 56 in Chile in 73? and on and on... shout all you want but there is no other opinion allowed to speak in the country.

      Advertizing dollars ..

      Did any of you hear that the man listed to run Iraq after liberation is an american arms dealer? NO? Did any one hear that each of the 23 ministries will be headed by an American, No?

      How about Richard Perle's _years old_ contract to rebuild Iraq infrastructure with his Saudi partners? Or Haliburton, Cheney's company, with the contract to rebuild the oil wells. My god this does look profitable.

      Advertising dollars. . .

    9. Re:Who cares? So what? by TKinias · · Score: 1

      scripsit Gortbusters.org:

      Oooh, insightful!

      Only about as insightful as saying ``Sticking your hand in a running blender is bad''... It really shouldn't be necessary to point out why concentration of media ownership is a bad thing.

      the same monopolyptic concerns

      I'm not sure I follow what you mean here.

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    10. Re:Who cares? So what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So what's the difference with NPR. NPR has to constantly ask the general public for money - you don't think that people who pledge to NPR are from a relatively average cross-section of the population, do you?

      NPR has to cater to a certain specific segment of the population, in order to continue it's operations. Public radio is consistently sarcastic, cosmopolitian, and paternalistic. It is as biased as Fox News.

    11. Re:Who cares? So what? by Monkelectric · · Score: 1
      I for one would love to see conservative idiots stop railing against any opinion not as ignorant as their own.

      NPR has *a lot* of great shows that (Car Talk, Prairie Home Companion) and their news coverage is a lot more "fair and balanced" then those who claim to be.

      The real theme of conservatism as of late is to spit bile, intolerance, and contempt at anyone/everyone who doesn't buy their bullshit. I for one am sick of it.

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    12. Re:Who cares? So what? by Blue+Stone · · Score: 1
      "...investigative journalists (do any of those still exist?)..."

      Greg Palast

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    13. Re:Who cares? So what? by Gizzmonic · · Score: 1

      In the US, broadcast media (AM, FM, UHF, VHF) belongs to the people, much like our national parks do. This is what the FCC Charter actually states. However, nobody knows this, and the commercial media interests that have infested TV and radio aren't gonna tell anyone.

      The only reason that the FCC started issuing licenses is because of the limitation of spectrum. If we use modern technology to modulate the signal, these limitations are lifted, and there's no need to regulate who should be on the air and who shouldn't. If the FCC was acting in accordance its charter, I should be able to broadcast a stream of curse words over the air 24/7. The way it is now, I'm limited to a megaphone and my vocal chords (until they give out). Obviously, this is counter to free speech and democracy.

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    14. Re:Who cares? So what? by LibertineR · · Score: 1
      This isn't about adverising money, it's about freedom of speech.

      Nonsense. If you dont listen, they dont make money. Ultimately, people decide. That is the marketplace. I dont care who thinks my post was a troll, as it only goes to prove how little most of you understand economics.

    15. Re:Who cares? So what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The airwaves are NOT PRIVATE PROPERTY. Do you have a comprehension problem?

    16. Re:Who cares? So what? by TKinias · · Score: 1

      scripsit BlueStone:

      Greg Palast [gregpalast.com]

      Thanks, amigo. At first glance, he looks pretty sharp.

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    17. Re:Who cares? So what? by LibertineR · · Score: 1
      Oh, it's the RIGHT that doesnt think?

      Let me see here, the LEFT has ABC, CBS, CNN, NBC, MSNBC & PBS, but they are scared shitless over FOX.

      It is the LEFT that cannot stand for alternative points of view, that attempts to shout down anything that doesnt adhere to their ideas for their socialist utopia.

      To answer your question YOU HEARD ALL THAT STUFF, RIGHT????

      Or did it just fly up your ass one morning during an inspiring dump?

      I heard it too, on AMERICAN news. If you can get the information, then you cant bitch about not getting the information.

      Oh wait, yes you can, because your are a stupid liberal, which means you can speak from your ass in any dialect you wish. You are not required to make sense, because you worship irrational emotionalism.

      Forgive me, I forgot.

    18. Re:Who cares? So what? by TKinias · · Score: 1

      scripsit LibertineR:

      [...] To answer your question YOU HEARD ALL THAT STUFF, RIGHT????

      [...] Or did it just fly up your ass one morning during an inspiring dump?

      [...] because your are a stupid liberal [...] You are not required to make sense, because you worship irrational emotionalism.

      You know, the Right needs more spokesmen like you.

      Thank you for pointing out the irrational emotionality of the Left, in such lucid, dispassionate terms.

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    19. Re:Who cares? So what? by MSTCrow5429 · · Score: 1

      I did mention in a later post that the spectrum, when used correctly, has no bandwidth limit. However, I'm puzzled as to how you think being limited to "a megaphone and my vocal cords" is counter to free speech. When the Constitution was written, there was no such things as megaphones. Our country was based on negative, not positive freedoms. You have the right to free speech as far as no one will interfere with your efforts, but you do not have the right to demand ownership of others property and efforts to enable yourself a bigger audience. We aren't a democracy, we're a republic, there's a huge difference. In a republic, governmental power is limited (or is supposed to be), while in a democracy government has plenary power, such as in France. National parks belong to the people? Hrm, then why is the government the one designating and controlling them? Nothing belongs "to the people," only individuals. The government owns the national parks, charges admission, makes rules and regulations, decides what you can and cannot do, etc. If it was mine, I could walk in, chop down a tree, and make a big pointy stick to poke intruders with. The FCC, being a governmental agency, will naturally expand beyond its charter, because nature abhors a power vacuum, ie freedom. And it gives the otherwise unemployable something to feel good about.

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    20. Re:Who cares? So what? by bluGill · · Score: 1

      Please somebody tell which channel in the U.S. is examining why almost every country on earth is in opposition to the U.S. war in Iraq and its seizure of the oil wells ( or maybe they will eventually be sold to some joint US/"iraqi" company just like the saudis et. al. which is the same thing, Aramco is Arabian American Oil).

      Actually many countrys are for the action in Iraq. France, Genrmany, Russia and China are big countrys and against it, so they get the coverage. Many small countrys are for it, but who cares what Latvia thinks, just to name one. (I don't even care enough to look up the correct spelling of their name, though they are for the action in Iraq)

      As for seizure of the oil wells, the promiss so far is that the oil belongs to Iraq, After paying for rebuilding the country they will belong to Iraq, and hopefully the new country will be smart enough to sell them for a big amount, and then get taxes every year that amount to something that can get them on their feet, and keep them there ever after the oil runs out. Promisses have been broken in the past, but to say the wells are permently seized for US interest isn't the promis.

      Which American station has explored the data that shows that _all_ the biological weapons came from the states? All the chemicals came from the states? Which one is looking at the fact that at the time of the chemical attacks by that bastard Sad-Ham, Iraq was the single largest recipient of american foreign aid cash.

      Except for the supplies that came from Russia (I think others too, but I know that Russia sent chemcials to Iraq). And France will be directly responsible if they achive nukes.

      Which American station is looking into the overthrow of democratic governments as American foriegn policy. in vietnam 56

      Not sure about the others, but Vietnam was highly publicised during the war, and you can't read a history book about US in the 60s and 70s that doesn't go into a deep analysis of the situation there. The situation is far deeper than your simple sentence (which is true, but not the full truth) would lead someone to belive. There isn't room on /. to cover this topic though. (Even if I could remember all the facts)

      Did any of you hear that the man listed to run Iraq after liberation is an american arms dealer? NO? Did any one hear that each of the 23 ministries will be headed by an American, No?Who else would you choose? The right person needs to know politics, something an arms dealer has to navigate often. American (and the UK, do not forget them) will win this war, and they can choose the leaders. They will start with their own people, with instructions to build the country and hand it over to Iraq. This can work,. just look at Japan. It can also fail. To pass judgement before it starts it wrong.

      Or Haliburton, Cheney's company, with the contract to rebuild the oil wells. My god this does look profitable.

      Correction: Cheney's former Company. He left the company before he became vice president. When someone enters politics from the private sector, they turn control of their stocks and money over to a blind trust, which means they trust someone to deal with all their money, and give them no clue how it is invested. The only other way would be to require someone interested in politics to decide before they are 16 if they want a pirvate sector or political carreer. If the latter they will never hold a real job except for one in politics because that could taint them. (Not even burger flipper at McDonalds, becuase McDonalds would then have a opportunity to brainwash them...) Get real, like most people, Cheney had a real job, he took a position that would result in a conflict of interest with his other jobs, so he left those jobs so he wouldn't have one.

    21. Re:Who cares? So what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      pot calling the kettle black?

      But you're too ignorant to notice

    22. Re:Who cares? So what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      >> This isn't about adverising money, it's about freedom of speech.

      Nonsense. If you dont listen, they dont make money. Ultimately, people decide. That is the marketplace. I dont care who thinks my post was a troll, as it only goes to prove how little most of you understand economics.

      Listen, troll, your understanding of economics is simple and limited. Without regulation, there is an end-game where you eat what I serve because I bought out all competition. You can choose not to eat, of course. You can also choose to move away from the community. Some choice.

      Further, Radio and TV don't make money if you listen or don't listen. They make money from advertisers based on market-share. If all the competition's bought out, that's 100% market-share for that area, irregardless of who's listening. That's good enough for advertisers, who are compelled to buy advertising in order to advance their own business concerns.

    23. Re:Who cares? So what? by benzapp · · Score: 1

      Hey what are you talking about? All those stations you mentioned are not at all inclined to socialist or communist viewpoints. They are mainstream news sources, broadcasting fair and balanced information the average American craves.

      You right wing wackos just want everyone to belive in your sick, radical agenda. Pretty soon, the average American will have no choice but to be fed your fascist propganda, meanwhile the American Socialist Party will be forced to take to covert operations to broadcast a pirate radio channel.

      I hope you get shot by another hunter when you are committing your acts of genocide. Or maybe get e. coli from eating that rare rabbit.

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    24. Re:Who cares? So what? by Protocron · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "Correction: Cheney's former Company. He left the company before he became vice president. " Hmmmmm. I seem to remeber an article in Newsweek that said something along the lines that Cheney is still receiving $400,000 yearly from Haliburton, but it's all deferred into charity until after 2008. Hmmmm. Not the same thing as not having a conflict of interest.

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    25. Re:Who cares? So what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Indeed. NPR is biased towards a particular segment of the market that wants informed, intelligent, factual news and information. Sure, they often screw it up - they seem to have been as keen to play neaderthal pro-war rants as Fox these last few weeks, but they're consistantly better than the competition, being more willing to show both sides than, say, CNN or Fox, both of whom can't see a death without cheering.

      That's what you meant, right?

    26. Re:Who cares? So what? by LibertineR · · Score: 1

      Your understanding of economics is about as bad as your grammar. IRREGARDLESS IS NOT A WORD, IDIOT!!

    27. Re:Who cares? So what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      They're not even that. They're a bunch of networks that spent the best part of 1995-2000 going on endlessly about the travails of the then President's genetalia, as well as inflating an entirely bogus financial scandal and looking on by as we saw political imprisonment as a result; but will not criticise the current CiC regardless of the circumstances, be it similarly large scandals (AWOL? Coke taking?) or the problems of the PATRIOT act, or the behaviour of the DoJ.

      I think you have to be on crack to say that the mainstream media is either "balanced" or "liberal" or "left wing". They're conservative lapdogs, as might be assumed from their ownership.

    28. Re:Who cares? So what? by LibertineR · · Score: 1
      I hope you get shot by another hunter when you are committing your acts of genocide.


      Of course you do. Because you cant hold up an argument, you would rather wish violence on those who agree with you. I guess that means you give up?


      Stupid jerk.

    29. Re:Who cares? So what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, irregardless IS a word. Completely legitimate.

      Barstand.

    30. Re:Who cares? So what? by Gizzmonic · · Score: 1

      Good job focusing on the joke at the end of my comment. It helps to ignore the serious points beforehand.

      And doubly good job pedanticizing the difference between a democracy and a republic. It doesn't have anything to do with the discussion, but I'm proud that someone knows their civics.

      You say that nothing belongs to people, only individuals. Then you say that the government owns public parks? I'm a little confused.

      The government runs national parks, which have rules designated by state and local authorities. These rules are designed by ELECTED OFFICIALS. Yes, accountability, what a concept. Where is the accountability to US citizens in a privately-held organization? Answer: there isn't much!

      You conclude with some statement about nature abhorring a power vacuum, and I guess you're trying to say that the mechanisms of government naturally gravitate towards less, rather than more, freedom. Doesn't really coincide with reality, but hey, it'd make a nice bumper sticker.

      If the FCC refuses to follow its charter, then it's time to elect legislative officials who will reform the structure. But it seems to me that you'd rather chop down some trees.

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    31. Re:Who cares? So what? by ncc74656 · · Score: 0
      The real theme of conservatism as of late is to spit bile, intolerance, and contempt at anyone/everyone who doesn't buy their bullshit. I for one am sick of it.

      Pot. Kettle. Black.

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    32. Re:Who cares? So what? by benzapp · · Score: 1

      Stupid jerk.

      You need to get a sense of humor, commrade.

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    33. Re:Who cares? So what? by benzapp · · Score: 1

      Are you truly so dillusional that you unquestionably assume your own intelligence at all times? You couldn't even bother to go to an online dictionary and look up the word? Ahh... I love slashdot.

      btw, here is the definition of irregardless.

      Of course, it goes without saying that not only are YOU the idiot, but you are a hopelessly arrogant one as well.

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    34. Re:Who cares? So what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd hardly describe the Britannia as an authoratitive source on the English language. It doesn't even define the word "gullible".

    35. Re:Who cares? So what? by LibertineR · · Score: 1

      Then keep using it. Most people hearing it will automatically assume your lack of intellect.

    36. Re:Who cares? So what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      who cares if haiti or dozens of other small countries whose votes can be bought by little 'economic help' are 'pro-war'.

      bleh.. well.. at least arabic world is starting to view europe more and more better and believiable regime than empire of usa.

      democracy in iraq? oh please... how are the supposed to believe that usa will make iraq democratic when majority of them are muslims with views like iran? and when usa protects countries that are NOT democratic in the region..

    37. Re:Who cares? So what? by MSTCrow5429 · · Score: 1
      Accountability in corporations is held by the board of directors, who are influenced by shareholders and consumers, who are the ultimate arbiters of success and failure. Government, on the other hand, is much harder to rein in, as the FCC, among other agencies, are not elected, but rather authority is delegated to them by Congress, with the result of little to no direct accountability. If your elected representative does something you don't like, you vote against him, or more happily, run against him. If a faceless governmental beuracracy does something you don't like, you can't vote them out of office, and it is much more difficult to bring any pressure on them, as your elected representative has little to do with the agency, and it would take a massive lobbying effort to convince a majority on Congress of your opinion. Unfortunately, congressman listen to their constituents, not a citizen in the next state or across the country.

      Our founders recognized that government naturally expands at the expense of freedom; the purpose of the Constituion was to chain government. Unfortunately, now that the Constitution has been thoroughly mangled, it is now up to the voters to chain government, and while they have had some success, elected officials paying more than lip service to a previously iron-clad document would be more effective.

      I like trees.

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    38. Re:Who cares? So what? by Gizzmonic · · Score: 1

      'Shareholders and consumers' are moneyed interests. They provide no incentive for an organization to act for the common good. Why was airport security quickly federalized after September 11th? Because people don't want their lives compromised by airline cost cutting measures.

      The government is a meaningless abstraction. Getting involved in politics means communicating with people! At the local level it's not difficult. Hell, even influencing a large governmental organization like the FCC is not impossible. Thanks to grassroots efforts, the FCC denied the merger of Echostar with DirecTV. They also opened up the microradio spectrum. That's right, those "faceless bureaucrats" listen to ordinary citizens, you just have to take the effort to make your voice heard.

      And all that "government naturally expands at the expense of freedom" crap might sound poetic, but let's face it. People don't want the "freedom" to die from diseased food. They don't want the "freedom" to risk their lives every time they decide to get on airplane.

      Do you honestly think people were more free in 1800 than they are now? I guess you can conveniently ignore slavery, indentured servitude, the Alien and Sedition acts, etc. since they don't fit into your libertarian revisionist view of history. I wish you could actually travel back in time to 1796, I'm sure you'd love it there.

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    39. Re:Who cares? So what? by benzapp · · Score: 1

      oooooooooohhhhh.

      is that the best you can do? you fucking moron? You assume most people are as ignorant as you? hahahahaha.

      Just do yourself a big fucking favor, and buy a dictionary. You won't have to find yourself in this situation, trying in vain to save face.

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    40. Re:Who cares? So what? by MSTCrow5429 · · Score: 1
      I guess you can conveniently ignore slavery, indentured servitude, the Alien and Sedition acts, etc. since they don't fit into your libertarian revisionist view of history.

      This shows a clear misunderstanding of what Libertarianism is. Libertaranism flows from classical liberalism, and it's core tenet is that people should be free to live their lives without governmental intrusion and of freedom of association. Slavery, being opposed to freedom, does not fit into this philosophy. The Alien and Sedition Acts, being opposed to the freedom of speech, is a direct blow to our freedoms as individuals and does not fit anywhere in classical liberalism. Indentured servitude, on the other hand, if entered into freely, is permissible, as people are free to mutually associate with others as they please. People in 1800 were more free in some areas, less free in others, but this does not mean that we continue to give up our freedoms simply because we had less freedom in the past.

      There is no such thing as "moneyed" interests. In a free society, consumers hold the power to purchase goods as they see fit, and without consumers corporations and shareholders are worthless. As such, when a corporation does something that one disagrees with, the answer is to simply not patraonize their business. Do not blame corporations if they do not happen to do as you wish, as long as they are still those who value their services. Our society gives one the freedom to choose and to not choose.

      Airport security was federalized despite the fact that the government was unable to protect us on 9/11, and I see no reason why they would suddenly be able to do so now. Airline cost cutting measures only exist because consumers aren't willing to pay the price for what you consider safe. Government, on the other hand, has the ability to force people to pay for what they voluntary would not, regardless of whether it is rational or not. It is display of congnitive dissonance that on one hand, the people in the form of the government want federalized airport security for "safety" reasons (or any other governmental take-over), while they were not willing to pay for it in a more efficient manner, through their own pocketbooks.

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    41. Re:Who cares? So what? by Gizzmonic · · Score: 1

      I guess it's "cognitive dissonance" when the American people decide something that is counter to your beliefs.

      You might want to start thinking why most people don't think the "free market" is a panacea like you do. Why most people think national and personal security is an activity that should not be centered on profit. Why they are inclined to trust their government more often than they do large corporations. Maybe you'll experience a little cognitive dissonance yourself.

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    42. Re:Who cares? So what? by MSTCrow5429 · · Score: 1

      Clearly, you are living in a fantasy world. National security, while important and necessary, would have more success in securing our borders by actually securing our borders, and less in meddling in private enterprise. Personal security, is just that, personal. The connection between a well-armed citizenry and less crime is a well established one. People, while mistrustful of large corporations, being concentrations of power, are much less trustful of government, being even more massive concentrations of power. Americans voted Republicans, not Socialists, into power last election. Americans, time after time, prefer less services and less taxes than greater services and greater taxes. And Americans, in every Presidential election, vote for the candidate that is seen to be the one less likely to expand government, not the one most likely to increase government bloat. Your socialist world-view is built on a foundation of misassumptions and errors, contrary to reality.

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  7. No scarce resources in a digital world by mariox19 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    All the FCC rules for divying up the airwaves is based on the notion that bandwidth is a very scarce resource, and ultimately owned by the public. This "extreme scarcity" however is changing.

    Once television stations are transmitted digitially, there will be far, far more bandwidth available. There will no longer be these so-called "natural monopolies" in each locality, encouraging government regulation of the resource.

    When we go digital, there is no longer even any half-justifiable reason for restricting who gets what. There is plenty more to be gotten, and far more oportunity for competition.

    Moreover, freedom of speech does not require restrictions placed on the private sphere -- just the opposite. If anything, government restricting who is allowed to run a media outlet in a free market is an attack on the first amendment.

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    1. Re:No scarce resources in a digital world by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Moreover, freedom of speech does not require restrictions placed on the private sphere -- just the opposite. If anything, government restricting who is allowed to run a media outlet in a free market is an attack on the first amendment.

      If you don't place restrictions on it, you can end up with one group running every media outlet in the country. I think that's much more harmful to the nation.

      As for your other point, when we go digitial, then we can rewrite rules. We aren't there yet.

    2. Re:No scarce resources in a digital world by ajakk · · Score: 1

      We have restrictions that stop things like that. It is called the Sherman Act. We will not have the problem of one company controlling all of the radio stations in the nation, but we will have the problem of one company controlling all of the radio stations in one small geographic area.

    3. Re:No scarce resources in a digital world by TKinias · · Score: 1

      scripsit ajakk:

      We will not have the problem of one company controlling all of the radio stations in the nation

      We don't have ClearChannel?

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    4. Re:No scarce resources in a digital world by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Do you just make this stuff up for karma? Digital requires more bandwidth than analogue. Even if true, your logic fails. What's to stop the current oligarchies from buying up all new bandwidth? They're the only ones with pockets and connections deep enough. Hell, they just crushed Low Power FM, you really think they'll "play fair" and allow "far, far" more new competitors to enter the market? In what universe? They get around the existing restrictions now by use of LMAs (Local Management Agreements) by which one company runs up to a dozen stations in one building.

      Finally, you ass, the air waves are PUBLIC RESOURCES. Read that again because the concept of resources held in public trust apparently is hard for you to grasp. Freedom of Speech applies precisely because these companies use that resource in trust, not because they own it.

      WTF is it with all these people arguing for total corporate control of our lives?

    5. Re:No scarce resources in a digital world by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful
      Once television stations are transmitted digitially, there will be far, far more bandwidth available. There will no longer be these so-called "natural monopolies" in each locality, encouraging government regulation of the resource.

      False. It's called CONSOLIDATION and it's the easiest way a large business concern can dominate a market w/o providing any value of its own. All it takes is money

      If anything, government restricting who is allowed to run a media outlet in a free market is an attack on the first amendment.

      Again, false. The restriction is to limit the ability of a monopolist to attack the same first amendment by not allowing any other voices to be heard.

      PICTURE: the fella you hate the most putting only his opinions up on every channel, every newspaper, every billboard available in your community. You complain, he fires back that it's his right under (you guessed it) the first amendment.

    6. Re:No scarce resources in a digital world by grondu · · Score: 2, Insightful

      We have restrictions that stop things like that. It is called the Sherman Act.

      And it worked so well with Microsoft.

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    7. Re:No scarce resources in a digital world by Roofus · · Score: 1

      This is one of the worst Score:5 posts I have ever seen. It's vague, and wrong. Bandwidth may become irrelevant when you're talking about wired media (fiber, coax, etc). Broadcasting is a different story. There is a finite amount of bandwidth available for the public to use. With the new HDTV channels taking up even more bandwidth than their analog counterparts, bandwidth may become even more scare (as far a TV is concerned).

    8. Re:No scarce resources in a digital world by mariox19 · · Score: 1

      Okay, pal, first off fuck you for that "you ass" comment. It's totally inappropriate.

      Now, in the same way that all the land in the mid and western United States was distributed for free to those that could develop it, so too could ownership of the airwaves be distributed. The airwaves should be owned privately.

      Right now, they are being held by the public: that is to say, the public is acting as custodian, not owner. I'll admit that not everyone subscribes to this political-economic view (it's called capitalism). I have no problem "grasping" the idea of public resources, however -- I grasp the concept, as you conceive of it, and reject it.

      With respect to releasing that resource that the public holds as custodian, we can follow the same principle behind the Homestead Act of 1862. Those that can develop a resource receive ownership of it: note, you must develop it, not merely hoard it to keep others out.

      Do yourself a favor: learn something about economics, and good manners, while you're at it.

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    9. Re:No scarce resources in a digital world by abreauj · · Score: 1
      Moreover, freedom of speech does not require restrictions placed on the private sphere -- just the opposite. If anything, government restricting who is allowed to run a media outlet in a free market is an attack on the first amendment.

      Freedom of speech is about protecting the citizen's right to be informed. The concept is a recognition that tyranny grows from controlling the media and choking off diverse and dissenting views.

      While it's true that the Founding Fathers described this as limits on government power, and said nothing about corporate power, we have to keep in mind that back then, corporations were rare organizations, chartered for a limited time for specific projects to promote the public welfare; things like building a railroad across the continent, or constructing large dams. Most businesses were not incorporated, and the idea that a corporation might someday grow to be as large and as powerful as a government probably never occurred to the Founding Fathers.

      With things like ClearChannel, and the growing near-monopolies of the huge media cartels, their private ownership of large tracts of media is the polar opposite of freedom of the press. It's really no different from government controlling the press; the only difference is the trivial detail that the corporation isn't technically a government, though it does wield power equivalent to that of a government.

  8. IM standard by v_1_r_u_5 · · Score: 1

    In a related story, AOL/Time-Warner [wants to launch] "advanced" IM services without letting others access the IM network.

    At what point will the FCC finally force IM interoperability? Imagine if the phone companies could get away with this. Sprint customers wouldn't be able to call MCI customers, for example.

    The FCC needs to intervene soon!

    1. Re:IM standard by anubi · · Score: 1
      There's more to this.

      If AOL is forced to make IM interoperable, others may have problems defending proprietary protocols too.. like later versions of Office being deliberately designed to be inoperable with Linux.

      Or file structures ( i.e. .GIF, .JPG. etc. ).

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    2. Re:IM standard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Yeah, and test why we are giving DVD Jon such a hard time for getting DVD to play with Linux.

      Why so much entangled law.. I suppose in the United States, the entire populace will be eventually be employed in the legal field - while the rest of the world supports them.

    3. Re:IM standard by c.emmertfoster · · Score: 1

      Imagine if the phone companies could get away with this. Sprint customers wouldn't be able to call MCI customers, for example.

      No one purchases Sprint phones, and the company's buisiness goes to a competitor?

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  9. Don't forget print/broadcast consolidation by Zygote-IC- · · Score: 5, Informative

    One part of the FCC rules that could be lifted prohibits a company from owning a newspaper or broadcast outlet in the same market. So not only could they own all the radio and television stations, but they could also own the newspaper in town.
    Sounds great from a "diversity of voices" standpoint doesn't it?

    1. Re:Don't forget print/broadcast consolidation by dattaway · · Score: 1

      Why not just one television and radio station for each city. Much more efficient.

      I'm sure the One Big Company would argue "all the diversity you need on one channel."

    2. Re:Don't forget print/broadcast consolidation by ThinkingGuy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There is an important difference between broadcast and print, though: While there is no practical limit to the number of newspapers or print publications, there is a limited number of broadcast stations (TV or radio) that can fit in the spectrum of a given market. Yes, I know that technological advances will make spectrum shortage irrelevant in the future, but as the broadcast market exists today, scarcity exists, necesitating some limits on ownership (the same way space constraints necessitate limits on who can put in water lines, gas lines, and telephone poles).
      While I'm strongly libertarian on most issues, I recognize that the nature of broadcasting makes some unusual restrictions necessary. So, I have no problem with a company owning broadcast stations and newspapers in my town, as long as the number of stations owned is limited.

  10. Variety by rf0 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    We need diversity in TV channels as it the main media through which people get their information. If there is only a limited number of media outlets the stories that get broadcast will be more one sided than they are already. Things like the BBC are relativly fair but still not totally independant. The best course I would say is news.google.com. As all the stories are supposdly chosen by computer then it at least gives a fair cross sample

    Rus

    1. Re:Variety by Loosewire · · Score: 1

      Hmm google - who now put non important Press releases in it
      http://theregister.co.uk/content/6/30112.html :-(

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    2. Re:Variety by Blue+Stone · · Score: 2, Insightful
      The Google story is quite funny.
      In the mainstream news, they often simply regurgitate press releases, and present them as news, with little to no real investigation.

      Nice to see Google doing something good by cutting out the middle man!
      (and you have to admit, it's more honest!)

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  11. If they do this then they should also.. by windows · · Score: 1

    The FCC also needs to raise or completely remove the limits on transmitter power. Allow stations to broadcast farther, so if maybe I can't get programming from one of the major networks in my area, I'd be able to get it from another station.

    Second, I very much doubt that this will be a big deal. It's to the advantage of the networks to have an affiliate in all of the areas of the US with a sizable TV audience. The more area they cover, the more people there are viewing their ads, and the more revenue they get.

    Who really gets screwed out of this is smaller networks that can't afford to have affiliations with stations in every city. In markets that have many stations, smaller networks have an opportunity to own or affiliate with stations that haven't already been taken by the major networks.

    I interchangably refer to affiliates and stations owned by the networks, because the effects are mostly the same. There's no way a station owned by FOX would affiliate with NBC.

    1. Re:If they do this then they should also.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe not affiliate, but the Fox station in my town is partnered with the NBC station. News & weather are reported by the same people, just with different logos. So, what difference is there between Fox News @ 9 and NBC news at 10? Just an hour, that's it.

    2. Re:If they do this then they should also.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      The FCC also needs to raise or completely remove the limits on transmitter power. Allow stations to broadcast farther, so if maybe I can't get programming from one of the major networks in my area, I'd be able to get it from another station.

      Not an option. Transmitter power is limited because transmissions bleed over into other stations. You could do it through cable, but your cable provider would have to play ball. Not likely.

      There's no way a station owned by FOX would affiliate with NBC.

      I know a community where the FOX and ABC channels are bought and managed by one company. They retained their national network affiliations, but local programming was consolidated so the channels showed the same local news broadcast, the same local ads, etc.

    3. Re:If they do this then they should also.. by usotsuki · · Score: 1

      Over here, we used to have 2 PBS stations... (!)

      Now it's Gannett (USA TODAY) owning the NBC and PAX affiliates, another network owns CBS and UPN stations, another ABC, another WB.

      Now if only the PAX station wasn't owned by the people running NBC-2 and UPN was still shown by some small indy network, we'd be in business. Just wait. The company that runs 7 will scoop up the WB. Gloomp.

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    4. Re:If they do this then they should also.. by bluGill · · Score: 1

      You forget a different class that gets screwed: the people who don't live in the big city. I know people who can only get 2 snowy tv stations, and then only if the weather is perfect (when they sould be outside), and their rooftop antenna is pointed in their direction. They get another more radio stations, but most of them are AM stations that can't broadcast after dark. (AM radio has skip, after dark a little station can interfer with a different one, so only one station in the country is allowed a particular frequency after dark, but during they day many use it)

    5. Re:If they do this then they should also.. by poptones · · Score: 1

      As a matter of fact, the local NBC affiliate is owned by the same group that owns the local FOX affiliate.

      And this in a town of a few thousand in a tiny market (NE Mississippi). And the local CBS affiliate recently started running UPN on one of its alternate DTV transponders. We have a granfd total of five local stations - four if you don't count PBS (I mean "etv"). Those four are owned by only two companies - and one of the companies insists it won't go digital, which means in just a couple more years we're going to have all of three local stations with only ONE company (the CBS/UPN affiliate) controlling ALL the local news. Even the mayor of the damn town used to be one of their news anchors!

      And yes, they also own the local newspaper.

  12. Why diversity in media matters by FunWithHeadlines · · Score: 5, Insightful
    According to the article, many Americans think relaxing the rules of media ownership will be a good thing, or it won't make much of a difference. Here's why it will make a difference, and why diversity of media ownership is a good thing:

    All media has a point-of-view. Each media outlet does have a point of view, some conservative, some progressive, some liberal, some off-the-wall. Mostly conservative nowadays, because of being controlled by large megacorps that are by definition conservative in their approach. But there is a point-of-view.

    OK, so what if you are in a market with several media choices (newspapers, TV stations, radio stations)? Then you get a variety of political positions being pushed at you. You can pick and choose among those points-of-view and then make up your own mind. Reading all sides helps you come closer to reality. In contrast, if one company owns your local newspaper and your local TV station and your local radio outlets, you get only one viewpoint. If the owner of that company is extreme in his or her viewpoint, you get your news slanted in just that direction -- and no other viewpoint.

    If you are Web-savvy, you can escape this trap, but most people get their news as it is fed to them, spoonful by spoonful. Look at how many people think CNN provides an unbiased viewpoint, the facts. Look at how many people think Fox is unbiased. The more control is put over the media by any one company, the worse this will get. Can you imagine a world where the only news it was possible to get came from AOL-Time Warner, or Fox, or any one source?

    We may yet find out what that would be like...

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    1. Re:Why diversity in media matters by k_herald · · Score: 2, Informative

      Just my two cents:

      I live in Indianapolis, IN and have seen the effects of media consolidation. There was once two newspapers in Indy, the News and the Star. Although both were owned by the same company, they operated independantly. The News was a little left leaning, and the Star a little right leaning, and all was good. Well the corporation decided to trash the News (its readership was about 1/2 the Star), and consildate them into one paper. The sad fact is that almost none of the editors/reporters from the News were hired onto the new paper (called the Star). Thus we were left with a right leaning newspaper. Ok, this wasnt so bad, there were 3 major networks broadcasting 3 hrs of local news each a day. Ahh, but then the dominant local channel, WTHR (an NBC affiliate), joined the Indianpolis Star in a "strategic news partnership". So nowadays in Indianapolis, IN you can see the same stories, with the same angle, from two seperate mediums. All that is left is the less glitzy CBS and ABC affiliates, and a smattering of independant newspapers (Nuvo, The Recorder) which get almost no attention by the majority of the people who live in Indianapolis. I miss the days of the Indianpolis News, when I could read stories that do not get reported in the current situation.

    2. Re:Why diversity in media matters by Saeger · · Score: 1
      Reading all sides helps you come closer to reality.

      Indeed.

      CNN reports that "Iraq still controls airport" in what Al Sahaf called a "slaughter", but Al Jazeerah actually reports a bodycount of 200-300 US soldiers killed fighting over the airport.

      What can I conclude? That the airport is still being fought over, and that the bodycount is higher than CNN's int("slaughter")==0 and less than the number the Iraqi's would exagerate.

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  13. Diversity really matters locally by Zygote-IC- · · Score: 1

    Yeah, you can get your national and international and even statewide news on the Internet from a variety of sources, but how will that translate to all the smaller towns and cities which don't get the bright glare of satellite trucks from the major networks?
    What viewpoint will you get from your local school board and city council when one company owns all the voices?
    That's the nightmare the FCC forgets about when they get blinded by the major metro areas and lose sight of the small towns and cities across the country.

  14. Big Media Players by CBNobi · · Score: 4, Informative
    For those that are curious, these are the current 'big players' in the media industry, along with some of the major TV networks they own.

    AOL Time-Warner - WB, HBO, Cinemax, CNN, TBS

    General Electric - NBC, A&E, Bravo, MuchMusic

    Viacom - CBS, UPN, MTV, VH1, Showtime, Nickelodeon

    Walt Disney Company - ABC, Disney Channel, ESPN

    Liberty Media Corp. - Discovery Channel, TLC, USA Networks, Sci-Fi Channel

    AT&T Corp. - Many shared stakes with AOL-TW

    News Corp. - Fox Network, FX

    Bertelsmann - Largest European broadcaster

    Vivendi Universal - USA Network, Sci-Fi Channel, HSN, Sundance

    Sony - Telemundo, Game Show Network

    More detailed information available at The Nation.

    1. Re:Big Media Players by antdude · · Score: 1

      This list is good too.

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    2. Re:Big Media Players by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Don't forget Clearchannel Communications, a media giant that has swallowed and consolidated more than 1/3 of all the radio stations in the U.S. since the first FCC deregulation a few years ago.

      They are the ones who buy a local station, fire the DJ, and replace him with a transmitter from a central station far away. They digitally rig some content to appear local, even though it really isn't. When the police call and ask for a local Emergency Broadcast, like maybe for an Amber Alert or a flood or a tornado, NOBODY'S HOME and the broadcast isn't made!

    3. Re:Big Media Players by irc.goatse.cx+troll · · Score: 1

      "# Vivendi Universal - USA Network, Sci-Fi Channel, HSN, Sundance"

      When they cancled the invisible man, I assumed they were evil. Now I know it :(

      Why do all the good (relativly)original shows get cancled so quick?
      The Invisible Man lasted only 2 seasons, maybe its because they had no tits. Wait, Dark Angel lasted only one, and alba is uNFable as hell.
      I'm seriously puzzled as to how Buffy can last this long and Dark Angel gets killed on its first season

      Disclaimer: I don't want buffy cancled, I'm a huge fan ever since I started watching reruns on FX. It just dosn't make sense that buffy has lasted as long as it has where as other shows that are also good get killed so quick.

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    4. Re:Big Media Players by concordeonetwo · · Score: 1

      I beleive CBS (Viacom) owns Telemundo?

  15. The Problem is the FCC by philipdl71 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This article brings up some important points that need to be addressed about government regulation of media. Nobody wants a consolidation of media so that one company ends up controlling all the media in a given area. This would be similar to if K-Mart bought up every retail store in a metropolitan area.

    There is a distinct difference between the retail environment and the media environment. If government decided to limit the number of grocery stores in a given area with a new agency called the GCC (Grocery Control Commission) there would be obvious problems. Corporations with the most money would immediately suck up all of the licenses and every mom & pop store would immediately go out of business.

    The way things stand now, city councils have some regulatory power over rezoning but for the most part there are no limits on the number of grocery stores in a given area. The market sets the price. Unfortunately, due to the huge amount of regulations by the FCC the radio and televison stations are limited by something that the government calls bandwidth.

    The effect is that the barrier to entry to start your own radio station, television channel, etc. is very high due to licensing costs and bandwidth "availability". Thus we really don't have anything resembling a free market in the area of media. As long as the government controls the licenses, the people will not have a voice. I have heard arguments recently on slashdot that there is no such thing as a bandwidth problem. This begs the question exactly what is the government doing limiting the number of radio or television stations in a given area?

    I'm not sure what the solution is to the problem with the FCC and giant media companies buying up stations around the country. One thing is clear, though: The present situation is nowhere near capitalism, nor the fault of the free market.

    1. Re:The Problem is the FCC by usotsuki · · Score: 1

      More familiar than you think...here, Tops Markets gobbled up or forced out every other supermarket in the city until Wegmans came in just a couple years ago, and Aldi and Save-A-Lot after that...face it, not a lot of choice here, there's 3 Tops, about 15 Wilson Farms convenience stores (owned by Tops), 1 Wegmans, 1 Aldi (out in the middle of nowhere) and 1 Save-A-Lot, and this isn't a big city.

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    2. Re:The Problem is the FCC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      The FCC regulates because bandwidth is limited and the airwaves are not a self-controlling medium. FCC rules are the only thing preventing anyone from building an FM transmitter (not too difficult) and knocking your favorite TV or radio station off the air.

      Yeah, it might bother you that gov't has to step in and set rules, but if that gov't were fair and impartial (like it's supposed to be), there wouldn't be a problem. Apparently, it's not. The FCC chairman has allowed himself to be wined and dined by the wealthiest media companies, blind to his duties to be impartial on behalf of the American public.

      Keep in mind, a monopoly doesn't have to be just one company to achieve the same effect in a market. A handful of dominant companies, such as those currently vying for all the airwaves, does not make for any meaningful or valuable competition. A free market is by no means free is competition is limited to a few big well-entrenched players.

      Ironically, though, that's the most comfortable place for a corporation. No competition, no need to risk money on content or R&D... just sit back and collect the revenue. That's why a free market ultimately depends on gov't regulation to stay free!

    3. Re:The Problem is the FCC by philipdl71 · · Score: 1

      Keep in mind, a monopoly doesn't have to be just one company to achieve the same effect in a market. A handful of dominant companies, such as those currently vying for all the airwaves, does not make for any meaningful or valuable competition. A free market is by no means free is competition is limited to a few big well-entrenched players.

      Competition would not be limited to a "few big well-entrenched players" if the government actually allowed competition.

      Ironically, though, that's the most comfortable place for a corporation. No competition, no need to risk money on content or R&D... just sit back and collect the revenue. That's why a free market ultimately depends on gov't regulation to stay free!

      Quit trolling me here. Corporations may feel completely happy sitting back and collecting revenue but it's government which allows them to do this through regulations, licensing, and other mechanisms which prohibit other people from competing.

    4. Re:The Problem is the FCC by Azghoul · · Score: 1

      Sounds like WNY to me... GO BILLS! :)

    5. Re:The Problem is the FCC by usotsuki · · Score: 1

      Yep ;) You probably know the city in question too...the hellhole that people think will be improved by a bloody casino.

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  16. Scarcity is irrelevant by davecb · · Score: 1
    What do yopu mean when we go digital? We're already digital in Toronto, and the choices are actually worse.

    The new digital channeles have been gobbled up by the companies already owning newspapers and television stations. The scarcity may not be there any longer, but the media companies have adapted to the additional supply by a traditional polyopolist's trick: buying up all the suppliers!

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  17. LOL! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Dude, those Republicans are so big money influenced it's insane! Good to see the Democrats sticking up for the small guy.

    1. Re:LOL! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not like either party has a monopoly on corruption. If the Dems. had the presidency and both houses of congress now, I would have advised sending the check to them.

    2. Re:LOL! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Don't be so hypersensitive.

      Right now, there's no point in bribing the dems: They're not in power.

    3. Re:LOL! by Guppy06 · · Score: 1

      "Good to see the Democrats sticking up for the small guy."

      Democrats like Fritz Hollings?

  18. Merchants of Cool by starvingartist12 · · Score: 3, Informative

    PBS has a very informative website outlining The Merchants of Cool -- "a report on the creators and marketers of popular culture for teens".

    But the most eye-opening part is their section on the Media Giants. It has a huge listing of all the holdings and subsidaries of the largest media giants: News Corp, Vivendi Universal, Sony, AOL Time Warner, Walt Disney and Viacom.

    Check out AOL Time Warner, for instance.

    1. Re:Merchants of Cool by usotsuki · · Score: 1

      They should remove the WCW from the list, since the WWF (I refuse to call it by its current name) bought it up.

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  19. Business & Government want one view. by OldHawk777 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The reality: A Constitutional Democracy occupied by a Capitalist Republic.

    Business wins we lose. Government giveaways come in many disguises, but all are in fact Corporate Welfare. The world will follow where we go, and the US is lost forever to history. There are five that closely follow the new "Politically Correct" that provides the "Unified Field of Vision" theory that provides one sight with hues and tints that build our fence.

    Until Business and Government are separated expect the worse for US, and those that follow Religion and Government unable to separate the two. Yes, in today's world depending where you live BUSSINESS=RELIGION, both are oppressive, corruptive, and deadly to people/citizens and our GOVERNMENTS.

    I have limited my intake of news to ABC, BBC, PBS, and Times/Post/Herald news articles on the internet. The others appear to biased/BS to me and frequently parochial, lame, and personality centric stupid (Talking Heads). Plenty of idiot personal opinion comments with grins and giggles, limited substance, no character, soulless drivel in a complex dynamic world with extremely significant news being avoided or marginalized by policy and actors. Longing, for the days when news people, editors, and the story had dignity ... (all is lost).

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  20. Why Fox? by Silverhammer · · Score: 1

    I can understand Clear Channel, but why did the poster choose Fox as an example? They are so far down the Big Media totem pole that they barely qualify as an outllet at all. ABC/Disney and CBS/Viacom both own many, many more television and radio stations, so... why Fox, hmm?

    1. Re:Why Fox? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Because Fox News is the most watched news channel in the US. And the Fox network is one of the most watched TV networks. And because News Corp, Fox's parent company, owns more media outlets worldwide than you could possibly comprehend with 100% of your brain.

      Yeah... that might be it. Don't underestimate Rupert Murdoch. He will destroy you.

    2. Re:Why Fox? by Sarcasmooo! · · Score: 1

      Not really. Compare the numbers if you want.

      Fox's stake in New York also makes it a pretty big influence. That's my take at least.

    3. Re:Why Fox? by Silverhammer · · Score: 1

      Blockquoth the poster:

      Not really. Compare the numbers if you want.

      Umm, the original story -- and my reply to it -- was about television and radio station ownership. Your link is interesting but not on-topic.

      Fox's stake in New York also makes it a pretty big influence.

      That is a single market. Granted, it's the largest in the country, but it's still only one. Everywhere else, ABC/Disney and CBS/Viacom are much bigger fish. As such, my question remains: why did the original poster choose Fox as an example?

    4. Re:Why Fox? by Silverhammer · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      You make a good point, but I do not respond to name-calling Anonymous Cowards. Sorry.

    5. Re:Why Fox? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Didn't mean to offend you. The "100% of your brain" comment was a ATHF refrence.

    6. Re:Why Fox? by Sarcasmooo! · · Score: 1

      My link lists companies, and clicking the company name lists what they own (including television and radio stations).

    7. Re:Why Fox? by Silverhammer · · Score: 1

      Fair enough.

      So then, using your link, let's compare Fox/News Corp. to CBS/Viacom. Viacom owns at least as many television stations and many, many more radio stations.

      As such, I ask again: why did the original poster use Fox as an example?

  21. FCC Irrelevant and Hinderance by MSTCrow5429 · · Score: 3, Informative

    As you know from a previous /. story, the spectrum is limitless. Current dumb devices tune to frequency X and simply display, A/V or other; smart devices would be able to filter transmissions, meaning that you could have an infinite amount of data in a very small chunk of spectrum. Spectrum is nothing more than colors, visible or otherwise, and you cannot run out of colors. Even if it was not so, the internet gives one the ability to transmit whatever they please, assuming of course that they are willing to make the same investment as those already in play. The FCC, by basing itself on the flawed-theory of spectrum scarcity, is doing far more to limit broadcast diversity than any one corporation.

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    1. Re:FCC Irrelevant and Hinderance by Jeremy+Erwin · · Score: 1

      The "previous" ./ story. Ah the brave new world beyond that pesky concept of backwards compatibility.

    2. Re:FCC Irrelevant and Hinderance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh-huh. And if you read it on Slashdot, it must be true. No need to further investigate for yourself if the physical impossibility of 'infinite bandwidth' makes sense. Next up, build your own anti-gravity time machine.

  22. Hasn't this already been overturned? by ahecht · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In Los Angles, Viacom owns channels 2 (CBS) and 13 (UPN), Disney owns 7 (ABC) and 9 (KCAL), and the Chicago Tribune owns both channel 5 (KTLA) and the only daily newspaper, the Los Angeles Times. Here in Worcester, MA, both channels 7 and 10 are NBC, 4 (CBS) and 38 (UPN) are both Viacom (and actually share the same nightly news), 2 and 44 are owned by the same PBS affiliate (WGBH), and 98 is also owned by PBS. So what exactly would change here?

    1. Re:Hasn't this already been overturned? by squiggleslash · · Score: 1
      So what exactly would change here?
      Well, basicly after the ruling channels 2, 5, 7, 9, and 13 in Los Angeles, and 2, 4, 7, 10, 38, and 98 in Worcester, will all be owned by Fox.
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    2. Re:Hasn't this already been overturned? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, in L.A., CBS owns 2 & 9. Fox owns 11 & 13. ABC/Disney owns only Ch. 7.

  23. Why this is a bad thing. by SlashChick · · Score: 5, Informative

    I do some contract work for a nationally-syndicated home improvement radio show, so I'm quite familiar with the whole Clear Channel buyout process. Since some of you may not know how this works, I'll explain it as succinctly as I can.

    Let's say you own a radio station. Your radio station plays Top 40 stuff. You have hired some local DJs from the nearby college to play music, and you have some fun with various weekend and Friday night shows that showcase some local artists. You have a playlist that is based both on what other Top 40 stations are playing (the "popular" music), and requests from your listeners. You're doing well, but you have to maintain a staff to sell ads, and you're finding it harder and harder to do this.

    Clear Channel comes in and offers to buy your radio station. Now, Clear Channel has enough money so that they can make you an offer you can't refuse. You acquiesce and agree to become a Clear Channel station.

    Clear Channel places your station into one of seven formats. Everyone who listens to radio is now clear on what these formats are, because that's pretty much all that remains on radio today. There's "Top 40", which is what your station will be. There are also "easy listening", "talk", and four others.

    Clear Channel fires 4 out of your 6 local DJs and replaces them with DJs from other areas. This is how Clear Channel makes its money: it can pay one "regional" DJ $15 an hour to broadcast out to 4 regional stations, or you and 3 other stations could each pay $12 an hour to 4 DJs to do the same thing. Thus, the complaints from the listeners start to arrive about losing the "local" feel, but by then there's nothing you can do--it's all in Clear Channel's hands.

    Clear Channel takes a look at your programming and decides what you will and won't continue to play. In the case of Top 40, they give you a playlist. In the case of talk stations, they give you a list of syndicated shows and force you to drop everything that isn't on the list. (This is where On The House comes in-- every time Clear Channel buys a station out, they force the station to drop On The House in favor of their home improvement guy. We've lost several affiliates this way.)

    Let's continue with the analogy of your (er, Clear Channel's) Top 40 station. You're now forced to drop the local bits since you only have two local DJs left (and in all likelihood, they're both doing the morning show, since that's the most lucrative time for radio.) You're now fed a playlist. Clear Channel has national playlists. That means that whatever your station is playing is the same stuff that every other Top 40 station owned by Clear Channel is playing. Do you wonder why all radio stations seem to play the same stuff? If they're owned by Clear Channel, it's because they are playing the same songs.

    How does Clear Channel come up with these songs? They test-market in one market. ONE. In your case, the Top 40 stuff is tested in places like New Mexico. Yep, listeners in New Mexico are deciding what your station is going to play! Welcome to Clear Channel.

    If you're wondering why radio seems to have gone downhill, you can look no further than Clear Channel. Sadly, DJs are pretty much corporate minions these days. They no longer get to spin new local tracks, and they don't have a choice on what to air. Many of them aren't even in the studio for half or more of the time they're on air -- they pre-record bits and play them as their segment progresses.

    It's a sad time for radio. Fortunately, I believe the independents like On The House will survive. The independent radio stations will find their niche as well. I believe that Clear Channel will eventually feel the consumer backlash, much like we lashed out against high CD prices.

    Please don't shrug your shoulders about the new FCC regulations being suspended, though. Loosening these regulations is a bad thing. Clear Channel doesn't need to hurt radio any more than it already has.

    1. Re:Why this is a bad thing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey SlashChick, from a fellow 20 year veteran of radio (different country), I just want to say thanks and let you know at least one reader recognizes your post as being completely qualified and totally accurate. As such I fear it will befall the fate of most such posts and be ignored or downmoderated by the social-luddite robots that inhabit this forum. Thanks again.

    2. Re:Why this is a bad thing. by unitron · · Score: 1
      I've been out of radio for a while now (and with all the stations in the area tending more and more towards "robot radio" I'll probably never go back) and don't keep up with the industry as much as I used to (that whole legal payola thing kinda took me by surprise), but isn't it Clear Channel that also has a business that handles most of the concert bookings these days as well, and also has a lot of leverage over the ticket selling business?

      That way they decide who gets played, who gets to come to town to play, and what you have to pay to get in.

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    3. Re:Why this is a bad thing. by Herkum01 · · Score: 1

      To a degree, I understand what you are saying but the fact is, to get where the market needs to be, you have to let this go on through. The market has to be let go and let them fail. That is how the market works.

      After these companies have basically been beaten back, more players will come to market. The only problem is that we have to wait for the current guys to fail. I feel for you, I do but I don't see government legistation saving this market. I believe they are going to change the rules regardless.

    4. Re:Why this is a bad thing. by Moofie · · Score: 1

      That's just absurd. One company buying up all the other companies is not a market. It's a market failure, called a "monopoly".

      Remember when it was actually illegal to abuse monopoly power? Those were the days...

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    5. Re:Why this is a bad thing. by squiggleslash · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Remember that "failing" means "not making enough money to cover their costs".

      I think it's reasonable to suggest that few monopolists end up with problems covering their costs. As long as CC's content appeals to a large enough group of people that advertisers keep advertising - and assuming CC controls enough radio stations in a market that someone on the morning commute has no choice but to either tune in to them or tune off, they always will have enough listeners - then CC will not fail.

      Despite the rhetoric, capitalism does not always have market forces. If one group is in control of a resource, be it government mandated use of the airwaves, or control over an API as in the Microsoft case, it's extremely difficult, if not impossible, to dislodge them unless they seriously fuck up. Clear Channel is from a business point of view doing all the right things - they're cutting costs to the bone, publishing stuff that's just about good enough for people not to turn off, and attempting to dominate the market recognising that the value of a business is often more than its net income. There's no reason to believe they're about to "fail". Listeners are in for bad times ahead.

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    6. Re:Why this is a bad thing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hasnt anyone thought about what 802.11 and Internet radio is going to do to this market? It seems a matter of time before territrial radio is in for the hit...

    7. Re:Why this is a bad thing. by ChadN · · Score: 3, Informative

      Thanks for this post.

      For anyone who listemns to music radio these days, the effect described above can easily be seen with one singer: Avril Lavigne

      Avril has been heavily pushed by Clear Channel stations (I travel a bit, and I try to keep track of which stations are owned by Clear channel). Now, Avril has a song, "Complicated", which was a hit, and could have reasonably been seen to be worthy of about three weeks of fairly solid radio play, before dropping into the occasional play zone.

      Instead, I still hear it almost all the god damn time, after almost a year, especially when listening to a Clear Channel station. There is NO WAY that dumb, trite, banal song should be played like it is after almost a year on the chart. It is being pushed (and I suspect it is because Avril is young, and "trendy", so that by pushing the music, the fashion image can be sold on magazines, etc. which Clear Channel probably also owns, or at least has a stake in.) and the target market of teeny bopper girls can be molded in to Avril wannanbees.

      There is nothing new about all this, of course. But it has gotten so bad that is goes beyond just being noticeable. It is unescapable.

      Consider also that Clear Channel owns a great number of billboards, I've noticed, and if I did some digging, I'd assume they have a large horizontal ownership presence in many media outlets.

      Another recent Clear Channel story that hit the independent newspaper circuit was how they were caught getting permits for assembly at city parks, then having their radio stations promote "anti-anti-war protests" at these places (Their DJs would say things like "everyone go out there and do your patriotic duty supporting our president and our troops. Let's show these anti-war protestors how americans really feel"), and then send out their news teams to cover these events as if they had occured as a spontaneous assembly of people. In essence, they were creating the news that they were reporting (as well as astro-turfing; they denied this, of course, but people did research and traced the permit applications back to Clear Channel)

      So, in conclusion, Clear Channel is evil. :)

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    8. Re:Why this is a bad thing. by Herkum01 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There's no reason to believe they're about to "fail".

      The reason I said that they are failing is that if you look at their Balance Sheet they are negative 6 Billion Dollar's in Retained Earnings. The rule is that you cannot pay out any dividends UNTIL R/E are positive and for no more than they have R/E. Now the income that they are generating every year is 200 million. Assuming that everything else is constant it would take 30 years before any stock holders would see a dime!

      Take the fact that they cannot pay out money to investor's and that it is getting easier to open your own radio station(not REAL easy, but viable). There is little reason to believe that Clear Channel can be a dominate company. A good example, take a look at the railroads. AmTrak has to go and beg for money from congress every year just to stay afloat and they are not making any money. I doubt that the media business would get the sam subsidies that a fixed asset company like AmTrak would.

      So basically, yeah CC is buying up everything but they are taking up alot of loans to do it, and it does not look realistic for investors that they are going to get their return on their money back in their life time. Even a bond would pay more than CC would. So CC buys everything, but cannot make any money. Goes broke, has to sell off it's assets on the cheap, and noone can afford to buy it all. Free market wins again! I hope! :)

  24. FCC ignores its mandate once again by Gizzmonic · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Long, long ago (early 1910's to be exact) the US parcelled out its radio frequencies. They were/are supposed to be resources dedicated to the benefit of us all, like our national parks.

    Of course that ideal has eroded considerably over the years. The commercial US media has proven time and time again that it can't be relied upon for substantial news or even decent entertainment content. To all my laissez faire friends, look no further than Clear Channel to see how this actually hurts the market...

    After the FCC relaxed ownership regulations, the radio industry is actually smaller, less jobs are available, and musicians' barriers to radio play are higher than ever.

    PBS and NPR are merely bones thrown out to the public, a meaningless gesture. The Corporation for Public Broadcasting has no more interest in providing decent news than FOX or CNN-look no further than the 2000 Presidential debates, where Jim Lehrer supported the blocking of third-party candidates from the discussion for proof.

    So what needs to happen? A lot of people have noted that the amount of spectrum available through digital 'modulation' makes it possible to broadcast an almost unlimited number of radio channels...and this technique could be applied to television as well, to a lesser extent. With limited spectrum a thing of the past, public and commercial interests can share the media, each supporting the other. Here's what I'd like to see happen:

    1)Corporation for Public Broadcasting/PBS/NPR dismantled. Public funding allocated for those organizations should be used to build a strong public access infrastructure. This new public access project awards grants to budding television producers. This public access network could also serve as a 'farm league' for larger commercial interests. Successful public-access producers could be picked up by the larger networks-allowing risk-free, cost-free market research for Big Media. Everybody wins!

    2)FCC laws limiting media ownership strengthened. Let's limit how many media outlets, and what kind of outlets each corporation can own. Media outlets should be required to report their owners, as well as what other media outlets are owned by their owners, on "public service announcements" several times per day. You'd be surprised at how many people don't know that AOL owns CNN, Time Magazine, many local cable companies, etc.

    3)Classrooms teach semiotics/media literacy. Knowing how to dissect and critique popular media is very important for a free-thinking society. As (somebody? Gramsci?) said, "The power of ideology is that it presents itself as normal." People need to know that 'objective' news is impossible, and how to spot astroturfing, shilling, and other forms of deception.

    So...that's my long-winded take on how to 'fix the media'. Appoint me as FCC chairman in 2004!

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    1. Re:FCC ignores its mandate once again by whovian · · Score: 1

      Our local PBS affliate is holding its quarterly fund drive. They make it sound as though your Point (1) is well underway (as has been over the last 5, 10, 15 years), but especially with the way the US economy has gone in the last 2 years.

      If there is not to be a government supported broadcasting infrastructure, I wonder how practical it would be for the governemnt to set aside money for competitive proposals for citizens to write their own local TV shows?

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    2. Re:FCC ignores its mandate once again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Correction:
      Radio was a wild west frontier with stations having no claim to a frequency, fighting over the same freq(s) until 1927, when the Federal Radio Commision was created to create some order on the new medium, not the "early 1910's" (whatever those are).

  25. Reminds me of an Outland strip... by TheRealStyro · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The one where lawyer Steve Dallas time travels and screws things up. He then quips "A blighted landscape of insurance monopolies and hiding, dependent, squabbling mice-people...An entire planet of victims!" Substitute any number of corporation types for "insurance" and you get the picture.

    In these times when the major media corporations suck at the tit of the ruling political party and largely publish only those items that the ruling political party wishes to be published, that the citizenry should question government and the ideology by which the government is using to rule. The citizens cannot truely be free if they do not have free access to unfiltered streams of information. Refresh my memory, didn't we fight a war +230 years ago to put a stop to this nonsense?!

    Monopolies are illegal and should be broken and/or punished. Media monopolies should not be allowed to start. The FCC should not even be considering this action - it should not be allowed. So much for being a democracy and/or republic.

    One of the worst things that ever happened to this country was corporations being given protection under the Bill of Rights. Corporations cannot be given the same rights as citizens since corporations cannot be trusted not to abuse those rights. Government and corporations should be on a short leash being held by the citizenry, not the other way around.

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    1. Re:Reminds me of an Outland strip... by kcbrown · · Score: 1
      In these times when the major media corporations suck at the tit of the ruling political party and largely publish only those items that the ruling political party wishes to be published

      No, you've got it wrong. The media corporations aren't subservient to the government, they control it. It is they to whom the government gives its allegiance, because it is they who control the amount and nature of popular exposure any candidate will receive during an election run. And because the media corporations are corporations, and thus interested primarily in their own bottom line, they almost certainly sell their influence over the candidates to other corporations. This relationship has gone on long enough that it's highly symbiotic: the elected officials, and thus ultimately everyone in government, depends on the media corporations for favorable public exposure, and the media corporations (and any corporation that does business with them) depend on the government for favorable laws.

      This is why the government answers to the corporations and not the people: because today there is no real difference between the corporations and the government anymore.

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  26. NPR gets no government funding whatsoever -nt- by Sarcasmooo! · · Score: 1

    And no I'm not a particularly huge fan. Though I would be if they took a more investigative role.

  27. Re:FCC Irrelevant and Hinderance (correction) by Jeremy+Erwin · · Score: 1

    The "previous" slashdot story. Ah the brave new world beyond that pesky concept of backwards compatibility.

  28. Sorry... by StillDocked · · Score: 2, Informative

    Here is the deal with AOL IM. When AOL and Time Warner merged, they were forced to agree not to add advanced IM features (Video and such) until their network was open to other companies. Hindsight shows that this was a poor choice. Now that other companies offer these services, and the fact that AOL-TW has not become the behemoth it was supposed to have become, they seek to remove this restriction.

    While it may be used as a revenue item, the purpose is to level the playing field before people starting switching to YIM for the video chat capabilities.

    (Full disclosure, I am a TWC employee)

  29. Internet radio and copyright rules by dizgusted · · Score: 1

    recent copyright rules applying to the Internet have all but squelched-out Internet radio.

    Those rules don't say one can't create original content (news, music, whatever) and start an internet radio station. Outbound bandwidth on your $40/month cable connection may be a problem but fixing that's just a matter of a little money.

  30. Yeah right! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The government already owns majority stock ownership of all of those companies already.

    Again this is a synthetic law made to look like all the media corporations arent already consolodated.

    Colin Powell's own son is Chairman of the FCC!

  31. Clear Channel by Michael.Forman · · Score: 3, Informative


    This site provides information on the current monopolies that dominate media due to the deregulations in the early 1990s. Extrapolate from there.

    Michael.

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    1. Re:Clear Channel by Michael.Forman · · Score: 1


      Strange. The link above doesn't work without a slash at the end. Try this or add your own slash to the end of the URL.

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    2. Re:Clear Channel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am no fan of certain large corporations, but frankly a site that lists both Micheal Moore and Noam Chomskey as the "good guys" lacks any credibility for me.

  32. I counted 42 subsidaries so far... by starvingartist12 · · Score: 3, Informative
    Fox is owned by News Corp... which owns the following (and you'll probably recognize some of them):
    1. Twentieth Century Fox
    2. Blue Sky Studios
    3. Fox Searchlight Pictures
    4. TheStreet.com (partial ownership with New York Times Co.)
    5. Healtheon/WebMD Corp. (partial ownership)
    6. FOX Broadcasting Company
    7. FOX News Channel
    8. FOX Kids Network
    9. FOX Sports (partial in some markets)
    10. The Health Network
    11. fX
    12. National Geographic's cable channel (50%)
    13. Golf Channel
    14. TV Guide Channel (44%)
    15. 22 Fox affiliated stations
    16. British Sky Broadcasting
    17. STAR TV (Asia)
    18. Fox Sports Radio Network
    19. New York Post (U.S.)
    20. The Times (U.K.)
    21. The Sun (U.K.)
    22. News of the World (U.K.)
    23. The Australian (Australia)
    24. The Daily Telegraph (Australia)
    25. The Herald Sun (Australia)
    26. The Advertiser (Australia)
    27. TV Guide (partial ownership)
    28. The Weekly Standard
    29. Maximum Golf
    30. HarperCollins General Book Group
    31. Regan Books
    32. Amistad Press
    33. William Morrow & Co.
    34. Avon Books
    35. Los Angeles Dodgers
    36. New York Knicks (partial ownership)
    37. New York Rangers (partial ownership)
    38. Los Angeles Kings (partial ownership)
    39. Los Angeles Lakers (partial ownership)
    40. Dodger Stadium
    41. Staples Center (partial ownership)
    42. Madison Square Garden (partial ownership)


    (From PBS's Merchants of Cool)
    1. Re:I counted 42 subsidaries so far... by Silverhammer · · Score: 1

      Blockquoth the poster:

      Fox is owned by News Corp... which owns the following (and you'll probably recognize some of them)

      Umm, the original story -- and my reply to it -- was about television and radio station ownership. Your list is interesting but not on-topic. As such, my question remains: why did the original poster choose Fox as an example?

    2. Re:I counted 42 subsidaries so far... by Dean+Sas · · Score: 1

      For those of you that don't know BSkyB provides multichannel access to most of the UK, they only have a couple of competitors and the major one went bust earlier this year. The News Of the World is the UKs biggest selling weekly paper. I think the sun is probably the biggest selling daily as well. News Media owns way too much imo. If you don't have Rupert Murdochs support at election time then you don't get to be Prime Minister. His news outlets are vastly influential. and completely biased.

    3. Re:I counted 42 subsidaries so far... by OAB · · Score: 1

      No, it (and your comment), say 'media'.

    4. Re:I counted 42 subsidaries so far... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the case of television and radio station ownership, it seems that each of the News Corp subsidaries listed may own and operate several tv and radio stations in itself.

      Looking at #15 ("22 Fox affiliated stations"), for instance, indicates there's more to the list than "42".

      In any case, IMHO, I think Fox is right up there with the other Big Media guys.

    5. Re:I counted 42 subsidaries so far... by moncyb · · Score: 1

      I didn't see Senator Fritz Hollings on your list. He is owned by News Corp and other media giants...

  33. Talking of market consolidation is funny. by Absurd+Being · · Score: 1

    I'm watching the Running Man now.

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  34. False Premise. by LibertineR · · Score: 1
    You miss the entire point.

    This nation is pretty evenly divided. The money in this nation is ALSO pretty evenly divided. If you dont believe that, ask yourself why the middle class actually pays the bulk of the taxes, not the rich.

    In that there is money on both sides, your premise of one station owning all points of view in a community is false.

    There will ALWAYS be a market for the alternative point of view, there for that point of view will be represented REGARDLESS of ownership. As I said before, the concern in business is for dollars. ALL OF THEM, not just those representing a single point of view. Dont consider businesses to be so stupid, that they would ignore the dollars of one side in favor of the other.

    In other words, get a clue.

    1. Re:False Premise. by TKinias · · Score: 1

      scripsit LibertineR:

      In that there is money on both sides, your premise of one station owning all points of view in a community is false.

      I'm sorry, you're going to have to explain this is more detail. The poor have as much money as the rich? How does that work?

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    2. Re:False Premise. by ncc74656 · · Score: 0
      If you dont believe that, ask yourself why the middle class actually pays the bulk of the taxes, not the rich.

      You might want to review the IRS statistics quoted here. The top 5% of income earners paid over half of all income tax collected in 2000. If you were part of this group, you made at least ~$130k that year...with typical middle-class income being somewhere closer to $40k-$60k, the low end of the 5% might be upper-middle if you stretch it a bit.

      Furthermore, the top 1% (with income starting around $310k) paid nearly two-fifths of the tax bill all by itself. That's 20% of the previous group paying 80% of the taxes paid by that group. There's no way that someone pulling in over $300k per year qualifies as middle-class under any reasonable definition.

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  35. 'digital world' means you can go elsewhere by Andy_R · · Score: 1

    Don't like US radio? Listen to streaming radio from somewhere else!

    Here in the UK, we have a reasonably enlightened regulatory framework which gives us advert-free streams from the BBC, and gems like ResonanceFM.com which plays 'art radio' which is so abaout as far from pop music as you can possibly get - I highly recommend rsonance to people wishing to broaden their exposure to the unusual!

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    1. Re:'digital world' means you can go elsewhere by squiggleslash · · Score: 1
      Ah the Internet. A wonderful new model for broadcasting, which has lately become feasable now that everyone has broadband.

      And has broadband connections in their cars.

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  36. Strawman. by LibertineR · · Score: 1

    Not even worth a comment.

    1. Re:Strawman. by benzapp · · Score: 1

      Then why the fuck did you bother posting one?

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  37. Michael Powell Head of FCC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And this is why Clear Channel and all the rest of them are kissing up to the current government. Michael Powell, Colin Powell's son head up the FCC. Now with this big bill coming up, and nepotism at it's extreme throughout the current government, everyone has to kiss ass.

    I have no doubt what-so-ever that they will loosen the restrictions, and eventually the radio stations will come down to two different conglomerates owning 95% of all stations.

    If you're thinking they're gonna realise this and do anything about it, remember that this is the administration that basically gave microsoft a slap on the wrist.

  38. That means by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that the merger and creation of ABCNNBC is postponed?

  39. Tree falls in a forest... by Saturn49 · · Score: 3, Funny

    If ClearChannel owns all the radio stations in an area, but no one listens to any of them, do they really use any bandwidth?

  40. How about cell phones, then? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Imagine, if you will, changing your cell phone provider and not being able to take your number with you, even though the capability was mandated years ago? Imagine that every time it comes up, the cell phone companies cry and whine that it's impossible because they don't want to allow customers to move easily. Imagine if that were all true...

    "Welcome to the real world." It is.

  41. The bandwidth "color" model by Tim · · Score: 2, Informative

    I think that the slashdot story relating electromagnetic spectrum to colors, while fundamentally true, missed a significant point: the methods we use to broadcast on the electromagnetic spectrum fundamentally limit the amount of spectrum available.

    The people who are spouting off on this forum about "unlimited digital spectrum" and the infinite "color spectrum" are forgetting that whatever methods we choose to transmit over airwaves do NOT operate on single, "point" frequencies. Sure, protocols such as frequency modulation are worse than others, such as amplitdue modulation or single-sideband, but all of them operate on multiple frequencies -- if only because of the "parasitic" broadcasts that a single single tends to produce on multiples of the main frequency. And worse, it's always been true that higher-frequency modulation of a signal (i.e. higher bandwidth) leads to an increase the width of the broadcast signal.

    Don't misunderstand me: I think that the current broadcast universe could hold a lot more information -- and produce a lot more "channels" of data. But at the same time, the size of the electromagnetic spectrum is limited by our ability to utilize it -- and there are some fundamental physical limitations of radio waves that we will likely never overcome.

    In short, I think it's silly to be calling for a dismantling of the FCC -- we need the FCC to make sure that whatever the current methods of broadcast are, they aren't used to dominate the airwaves. The FCC needs a swift kick in the pants, sure (write your legislator), but calling for dismantling is shortsighted.

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  42. confirmed by H*(BZ_2)-Module · · Score: 1

    His reasoning ran something like: it's a complex issue and the public really isn't going to contribute anything intelligent to the discussion, so listening to them would just be a waste of time. Better to just ignore them outright. Note that this is not word for word what he said, but the tone and attitude are pretty close by my recolection.

  43. On Slashdot and link hiding by freeweed · · Score: 1

    Well, someone's come up with a novel way to hide their links. Slashdot currently tries to post the REAL domain as [domain.com] after the URL, but apparently this got past it.

    Now it's time for bitching. SOMETHING has changed very recently in the past few days on Slashdot, and now that damn [domain.com] is what I see in my status bar in Opera (6.05). I no longer see the actual, full URL like I do with normal href's.

    Could someone please fix this?

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    1. Re:On Slashdot and link hiding by devilspgd · · Score: 1

      Actually, in this case the real domain is yahoo.com rd.yahoo.com is a giant open HTTP redirection that Yahoo uses internally. Slashdot correctly identified the actual domain being used, but has no way to know about the redirection. Personally, I think it's worth a hack being added to slashcode to fix this, but that's just my opinion.

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  44. You are looking from the outside in... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting
    ...and you are wrong. I work for CC, and while some of your statements are true (CC is testing voice tracking, for example), your over simplification that they are doing this everywhere is false. That they are dictating programming is also false. Yes, really.

    You use your experience contracting for a syndicated show to imply that you understand how program management and music directing work. It is clear from your exxageration of the "Ooh Microsoft Radio Company" that you do not have first hand experience in these areas.

    (And re, 'On the House', of course they would drop your "indie" show for their own stable of programming, it's called saving costs. Buying internally == cheaper. If enough of the audience wanted 'On the House', it would find another affiliate, and still be on the air in that market).

    AC -- cause I actually work for "them".

    1. Re:You are looking from the outside in... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Testing" voice tracking?

      Another ludicrous claim from CC. In reality, voice tracking is in full bloom and used nationwide by the company; it has been for years.

      Don't kid yerself loyal employee. You might very well be the next CC lock-stepper to get that pink slip. I'd love to see you support the company's vile practices then.

  45. That's why I gave up on US airwaves and paper by Dr.+Spork · · Score: 1
    You know, as much as it pains me to observe the "dumbening" of the US media, I'm not terribly freaked out about it. The result is simply that our airwaves carry almost nothing worth watching or listening to, and our papers write almost nothing that's worth reading.

    Luckily, the FCC faschism hardly affects me at all, because foreign media is now accessible with an ease that we would have found amazing 10 years ago. Anybody in the USA can put up a statellite dish and watch Al Jazeera news, or state television from most European states. We can read foreign newspapers online, and even a mediocre internet connection is good enough to listen streaming radio from everywhere in the world. I mean, just a few minutes ago I learned which Berlin freeways are stalled, and I live in New York.

    My point is that just as the FCC has completely lost interest in serving the American people, they have luckily become reasonably irrelveant. If I could hypnotize Powell, I'd suggest that he'd take all broadcasters off the air and give that frequency to the people, enforcing only that their signals are weak enough to not mess things up for others. That's the way to move the country forward! Reserving our prescious spectrum for applications of the past, like rabbit-ear TV recievers, is a clear sign the FCC doesn't give a shit about serving this country.

  46. I have a better solution! by moncyb · · Score: 1

    Become a freebander! Lets see if the corps can't control the media when anyone broacasts whatever they want!

    The DRM cartel wants to take over the internet too. Just read about all the lawsuits against P2P programs. They're not trying to stop copyright infringement, they're trying to stop public access to local and worldwide communications technology!

    Screw the FCC. They're just shills for corporate bribes. The problem is the government assists the thieves in stealing all the communication technologies from us. I don't think your solution will help. What is needed is to put the organized crime (and the corrupt public officals who are helping them) in prison. But unfortunately, the FBI will never do this. When did our "justice" system start meaning let all the criminals roam free, and punish the innocent???

  47. And you've bought into it by xenoc_1 · · Score: 1

    "I have limited my intake of news to ABC, BBC, PBS, and Times/Post/Herald news articles on the internet."

    Oh yeah, you're avoiding the media control of the Capitalist Republic with those choices. ABC?? You include frelling DISNEY as one of your non-biased and non-media-giant sources?

  48. LEARN ECONOMICS. Monopolies are indeed bad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    STUDY ECONOMICS. Monopolies inherently are not bound by Adam Smith's Invisible Hand Principle, which states that perfect competition will lead to the socially optimal (not equal, only trickle-down optimal) equilibrium. Monopolies, on the other hand, will raise prices and limit supply such that producer surplus is expanded at the cost of consumer surplus, and creating a deadweight loss in overall productivity of society. In other words, the buyers are skrewed, the sellers are rolling in it, and the rest of society is also skrewed.

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  49. Re:LEARN ECONOMICS. Monopolies are indeed bad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    here here

    now if americans only stopped being so stupid and shooting up british tanks over in iraq...

  50. Reply: Xenoc, and you've bought into it by OldHawk777 · · Score: 1

    Xenoc,

    What's your problem Xenoc, Mickey Mouse as a news announcer would be better than your favorite "Talking Head". Also, remember ... verify, check, validate, ... do it again.

    "Xenoc" sounds "French", Your two favorite actors would be Micky and Jerry. Yep, Mickey would be the straight-man, because I never believed Fairy-Jerry was straight.

    Next time use a good line like ... yada-yada-yada ... that Mickey Mouse outfit.

    Glad I can help you.

    OldHawk777

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  51. Re:Dismantle NPR? by hageshii · · Score: 1

    I, for one, find NPR to be my safe haven from the corporate media giants. It gives me all the facts and analysis I need, but without flashy graphics and dramatic music. Since it's radio, they actually have to improve their content, rather than their packaging. I don't know if NPR is conservative or liberal or if I am conservative or liberal -- but I do know what I like, and I like NPR. Now to your point, I'm all for setting up an infrastructure that allows individuals to express their views and perhaps be noticed by the "big players". But wait a second -- isn't that what the internet is for? Don't get me wrong, I fear TV consolidation as much as the next guy, but I consider PBS/NPR to be somewhat invulnerable to private-sector corporations. In fact, if this consolidation occurs, PBS/NPR may be the last outlet for minimal-biased reporting.

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