Not real property? Something that sold for 4 months wages?
It's not his property, it's an item in a game owned and operated by someone else, which at one point was carried by his character in that game. If people want to attach value to virtual items which can be arbitrary created and destroyed, that's their problem.
Supposing you bought a sword for $500, then the game designers made a change that made that sword worthless, or removed the item from the game altogether, what would you do then?
I can't imagine someone paying hundreds of thousands of dollars for a single item of sports memorabilia, but it has happened. Is it really so far-fetched to suggest that there exist at least a handful of people with too much money who are willing to spend that money on having more than anyone else does on WoW?
That sports memorabilia can go up in value over time. A WoW account's value plummets to zero as soon as the game becomes unfashionable. Or when it's deleted due to a breach of rules. Or the game closes down.
I can't fucking stand when that happens. Whenever it does I send it back. I didn't order a Pepsi (aka sewer water with sugar added), I ordered a Coke
Pepsi is a type of coke. If you wanted a particular brand you should have been more specific, although most places only sell one type. They both taste of the same thing anyway (i.e. nothing at all).
So if MMO players like games like Eve and not WoW, why are they all playing WoW and not Eve? Perhaps you've miscalculated what most MMO players want, assuming your own preferences are universal.
People like WoW because it's easy. You don't need to think, there's no risk, nothing surprising, you can zone out, go afk, anything, and still progress.
Talk about pvp is irrelevant. I for one like pvp, but I'm in a minority, most people don't like it as it's unpredictable and you can lose even when you do everything right. People like fighting predictable mobs.
You are very wrong and I hope you learn this lesson if you ever go into business. The kind of people buying snacks and sodas at a gaming place aren't the same people who are wearing suits and buying starbucks at the airport.
You are very wrong. There are people from men in suits to kids in tracksuits buying food and drinks at starbucks prices. Or are you telling me a kid with a £300 mobile phone and £100 trainers can't afford a £3 drink?
Only baseball games and movie theaters can get away with shit like this and these are very special forms of LOCK IN.
Of course there's lock in at the gaming cafe, the overweight unfit WoW addict doesn't want to leave the computer for several minutes to go to the shop down the road. That's the greatest lock in of all, the lock in of laziness.
Yeah, but I ("we") despise every bar, cinema, and stadium in the world.
As long as they're raking in the cash, I very much doubt if a few cheapskates despise them. Bars are packed, stadiums are packed etc. Also there's nothing stopping you taking in a flask of tea like all the old men in flatcaps.
The guy is talking about a gaming bar, where probably most people won't just have excess money.
These days kids are awash with disposable income, and a 50% markup on a bottle of coke is hardly going to break the bank is it?
If you knew a bar that had tasty food and snacks for a reasonable price, would you go there more often than other bars? I sure would!
No, my choice of bar largely depends on the people in it. There are bars where you can get cheap drinks but you wouldn't want to spend any time in them unless you're 90 years old and braindead.
The popularity of bars and clubs with ripoff prices for drinks suggests that cheapness doesn't exactly bring in the customers.
If there was a cinema in town that had dollar cokes, that would be the ONLY cinema I ever went to. And I'd buy a coke every single time. Everybody would buy a coke every single time.
And that cinema would close down as concessions is where they make their monwy. Even if somehow they managed to stay in business, the place would be a filthy dump and full of bums.
I have a sick feeling that maybe bars, restaurants,etc. have maximized their profits, but it's downright sick
What's sick about it? Buying coke and hotdogs from a cinema is a luxury, it's not essential for living. They're making as much money as possible from people don't need and can easily afford, the only sick thing is your misguided sense of injustice.
Damage of shouting fire in a crowded theatre: people crushed to death. Damage of people not being allowed to shout fire: some assholes have to behave themselves.
Anything taken to an absolute is a mistake, rights must come along with responsibilities.
Do not price anything higher than it could typically be found in a vending machine or convience store. You won't sell very much AND your customers (particularly kids) will dispise you.
Every bar, restaurant, cinema and stadium in the world disagrees with you. People will pay for convenience.
Basically, you want to have rigid rules to combat cheating/stealing, but in those rules, allow some flexibility so that your customers trust you and don't feel like you only care about them for their money.
99% of your business will depend on the price and how good the service is. A WoW addict doesn't care about trust or how much money the owner is making, they just want to play the game.
Maybe then America should change their laws to enforce minimum wage, or what's the point in having one? I bet a lot of illegal immigrants make less than minimum wage, do you tip them if you walk past them while they're working working?
This is my last post in this discussion, if it carries on like this someone will end up getting their ear cut off.
I'm an asshole because I don't pay an extra 'tax' on my beer? I suppose you're an asshole if you don't tip the binman, the the roadsweepers, the toiler cleaner, the checkout person at the supermarket etc?
(if it took 3 people to run a ride, they would staff 4 and all would rotate through positions, one of those positions being break or lunch)
That's how we do it where I work, it means half an hour's break every two hours. Hardly anything to complain about. What did they want at Disney, hour on hour off?
Cooking's overrated. You spend hours in a cramped kitchen working your balls off, making a massive mess, and in the end the food tastes worse than something out of the microwave.
Home cooking: Hunting down obscure ingredients: four hours Cooking time: two hours Cleaning up time: half an hour Eating time: five minutes
You may as well phone for a pizza and do something enjoyable with your time.
Do people not know what good food is any more? Does anyone not know how to took a home cooked meal any more?
I love it when people use terms like 'any more', as if there was some golden age where everyone cooked brilliant food at home. What a load of nonsence, I'd go so far as to say that modern takeaway food is of better quality than the crap cooked at home fifty years ago.
Or are you telling me that boiled potatoes and roast pig's trotters cooked in the days of yore taste better than a modern takeaway curry?
He could go to the shop, but how could he vouch for the quality of the avocados? That may be acceptable in some bland chain, but at top restaurants the quality of ingredients is paramount.
That said, there'll always be a place for fully humanized burger joints. Even if it is for no other reason than humans simply like to interact with humans.
I'd pay extra to not have to interact with McDonald's workers.
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Yeah it's almost as if people want to socialise on the Internet. How odd.
You pay the casino for the chips. You don't play Blizzard for your Supreme Sword of 0wn-ness, you pay them to play the game.
Stealing someone's WoW item is like stealing money from the bank in monopoly.
It's not his property, it's an item in a game owned and operated by someone else, which at one point was carried by his character in that game. If people want to attach value to virtual items which can be arbitrary created and destroyed, that's their problem.
Supposing you bought a sword for $500, then the game designers made a change that made that sword worthless, or removed the item from the game altogether, what would you do then?
That sports memorabilia can go up in value over time. A WoW account's value plummets to zero as soon as the game becomes unfashionable. Or when it's deleted due to a breach of rules. Or the game closes down.
Why should we strive for a world without war? Countries can argue for decades and not get anywhere, but a six month war would solve the problem.
Coke is a trademark, the same way Hoover is a trademark, but a Dyson is still a type of hoover. I'm afraid your rant is about a century too late.
Pepsi is a type of coke. If you wanted a particular brand you should have been more specific, although most places only sell one type. They both taste of the same thing anyway (i.e. nothing at all).
There are many popular MMORPGs around, I don't see why WoW gets all the coverage.
So if MMO players like games like Eve and not WoW, why are they all playing WoW and not Eve? Perhaps you've miscalculated what most MMO players want, assuming your own preferences are universal.
People like WoW because it's easy. You don't need to think, there's no risk, nothing surprising, you can zone out, go afk, anything, and still progress.
Talk about pvp is irrelevant. I for one like pvp, but I'm in a minority, most people don't like it as it's unpredictable and you can lose even when you do everything right. People like fighting predictable mobs.
You are very wrong. There are people from men in suits to kids in tracksuits buying food and drinks at starbucks prices. Or are you telling me a kid with a £300 mobile phone and £100 trainers can't afford a £3 drink?
Of course there's lock in at the gaming cafe, the overweight unfit WoW addict doesn't want to leave the computer for several minutes to go to the shop down the road. That's the greatest lock in of all, the lock in of laziness.
As long as they're raking in the cash, I very much doubt if a few cheapskates despise them. Bars are packed, stadiums are packed etc. Also there's nothing stopping you taking in a flask of tea like all the old men in flatcaps.
These days kids are awash with disposable income, and a 50% markup on a bottle of coke is hardly going to break the bank is it?
No, my choice of bar largely depends on the people in it. There are bars where you can get cheap drinks but you wouldn't want to spend any time in them unless you're 90 years old and braindead.
The popularity of bars and clubs with ripoff prices for drinks suggests that cheapness doesn't exactly bring in the customers.
And that cinema would close down as concessions is where they make their monwy. Even if somehow they managed to stay in business, the place would be a filthy dump and full of bums.
What's sick about it? Buying coke and hotdogs from a cinema is a luxury, it's not essential for living. They're making as much money as possible from people don't need and can easily afford, the only sick thing is your misguided sense of injustice.
Damage of shouting fire in a crowded theatre: people crushed to death.
Damage of people not being allowed to shout fire: some assholes have to behave themselves.
Anything taken to an absolute is a mistake, rights must come along with responsibilities.
Every bar, restaurant, cinema and stadium in the world disagrees with you. People will pay for convenience.
99% of your business will depend on the price and how good the service is. A WoW addict doesn't care about trust or how much money the owner is making, they just want to play the game.
Maybe then America should change their laws to enforce minimum wage, or what's the point in having one? I bet a lot of illegal immigrants make less than minimum wage, do you tip them if you walk past them while they're working working?
This is my last post in this discussion, if it carries on like this someone will end up getting their ear cut off.
I'm an asshole because I don't pay an extra 'tax' on my beer? I suppose you're an asshole if you don't tip the binman, the the roadsweepers, the toiler cleaner, the checkout person at the supermarket etc?
By your insane logic, you're not very likely to be killed by a serial killer, so the police shouldn't bother catching them.
I don't know anyone who tips barmen. The price of beer is high enough.
And you're going to want your health insurance to skyrocket when all the new junkies's bodies start falling apart?
I thought we were talking about bars, not restaurants? At restaurants you drink wine, spirits would kill your tastebuds.
Bar work is generally at or below minimum wage.
Wow, and I thought I was bitter and twisted. Your computer monitor probably needs a windscreen wiper just to clean off the relentless stream of foam.
That's how we do it where I work, it means half an hour's break every two hours. Hardly anything to complain about. What did they want at Disney, hour on hour off?
Home cooking:
Hunting down obscure ingredients: four hours
Cooking time: two hours
Cleaning up time: half an hour
Eating time: five minutes
You may as well phone for a pizza and do something enjoyable with your time.
I love it when people use terms like 'any more', as if there was some golden age where everyone cooked brilliant food at home. What a load of nonsence, I'd go so far as to say that modern takeaway food is of better quality than the crap cooked at home fifty years ago.
Or are you telling me that boiled potatoes and roast pig's trotters cooked in the days of yore taste better than a modern takeaway curry?
He could go to the shop, but how could he vouch for the quality of the avocados? That may be acceptable in some bland chain, but at top restaurants the quality of ingredients is paramount.
As a manual labourer, I can tell you that this is actually good, as the worker can then zone out more, so the shift passes quicker.
I'd pay extra to not have to interact with McDonald's workers.