Find some of his analysis and it will include the "R" code to go with it, and you can duplicate his work and look at the code. Unlike other "researchers" who won't provide the data nor the code.
That's interesting. I wonder if the other side of the climate debate has published the code they use for the models they use to generate the projections upon which they want us to base legislation. Anyone know if those models are available? Link to an SVN repository, perhaps?
The only viable argument against taking action is to show conclusively that we can be certain about the effects of our carbon emissions, and that they're entirely manageable.
That's not the only viable argument, although I'm sure you wish it were. There are many other arguments, such as those made by China and India when they decline to throw their economies under the proverbial bus at the urging of those countries that already have the standard of living that the developing countries want to obtain.
This has been of course the religious mantra of the "Free Market Cures All" deity worshippers
It does not follow that because you worship the state, that those of us who prefer freedom must be worshippers of something else. The market is something we use, the way we use language. It conveys information about priorities and preferences.
You're assuming he buys bread at all; he may not buy anything at all. Why do you always ignore that option?
Nice try, but that doesn't support your position. If the kid breaks the window, the shopkeeper is deprived of the value of the window, whatever the shopkeeper might have done with the money otherwise.
we're just building new F22s....Instead of things that people would choose to buy of their own free will. Do you honestly fail to see the problem with taking money forcibly and spending it on different things than people would choose to buy? Do you think it would help the economy if I were to seize your bank account and spend it on hood ornaments for Bradley Fighting Vehicles? After all, it would employ hood ornament makers and polishers! Everybody wins, right?
Germany got out of its recession on militrary spending, you know, building tanks and PLANES, and that's what later brought the US out of the great depression as well.
That's the standard Keynesian mythology, and it's bullshit. Ask anyone who lived through the war when rationing of basic commodities ended.
Spy agencies have been doing this kind of thing for decades. Slightly altering the wording in documents so that the individual recipient is traceable. They used to have a major problem with classified material being leaked to the press by congressional staffers.
a broken window enriches the glazier instead of the baker. Economically speaking, it didn't matter.
That's the kind of idiocy that Keynes did an amazing job of selling to the pseudo intellectuals like you.
Here, let me try to make simple enough for you to follow:
The kid breaks the window, the glazier replaces it, the upshot is that he has a window again, but not the money he spent on the repair.
The kid doesn't break the window, then the shopkeeper spends his money on bread, and he has BOTH the bread and the window.
So, the choice is, window only, or bread AND a window. Get it now?
If breaking windows was a way to promote economic growth, Germany could have gotten out of the depression by having a Krystallnacht every weekend until they were all rich.
Please then, explain the difference between repairing a window which simple broke due to age and one that broke because the kid threw a rock through it, economically speaking.
When the kid breaks the window, the amount of wealth existing in the economy is diminished by the value of the window.
When money is forcibly extracted from the taxpayers to build F22s, and used to employ people in that pursuit, the society loses the wealth that those people could be creating if they were employed in a productive enterprise.
I'll check to see if you actually come up with a refute to any of the points, but somehow I think you're not going to.
You have a point on the top of your head, and that certainly can't be refuted.
As companies get bigger, they seek competitive advantages politically,
Yes, they do, and this is why it is imperative to keep the power to favor one business over another out of the hands of the political class. Politicians like Obama and McCain will vote for blatantly unconstitutional measures like the TARP bailout, because they have been bought and paid for. One possible partial remedy for this would be to prohibit any business that receives bailout money from making any political contributions. It should be a condition of receiving the money.
The powerful will always trample over everyone else, whether they are called a corporation or a government.
They will if people let them. In this country, we used to have a means to limit the accumulation power: the constitution. Unfortunately, since 1913 at least, the federal government has routinely ignored it when they wanted to do something like incarcerate people for their race, or steal all the gold in private hands.
Today, however, with the second great depression staring us in the face, there's a growing movement to restrain the government to work within its legal powers. I'm actually far more hopeful about the USA becoming a free country now than I was two years ago.
Capitalism is the system in which US politics and corporations has been living in the last half-century or more.
I WISH!
No, you're not even close. The system that our government and the larger corporations have created isn't capitalism, it's a rehash of mercantilism. Capitalism is a system of free markets, in which information is conveyed through profits and losses. By insulating larger players from their losses, the government robs us not only of the wealth they loot from us through taxation or inflation to give to these incompetents, but they also keep resources misallocated.
The issue is that the government allowed those companies to grow so large.
No, the issue is that the government is using usurped power that the people never granted to keep these companies around after they've failed. The government is looting wealth from everyone who has dollars, to give to incompetent organizations like GM's management and the UAW, to allow them to continue their failure.
Slashdot Mirror
Find some of his analysis and it will include the "R" code to go with it, and you can duplicate his work and look at the code. Unlike other "researchers" who won't provide the data nor the code.
That's interesting. I wonder if the other side of the climate debate has published the code they use for the models they use to generate the projections upon which they want us to base legislation. Anyone know if those models are available? Link to an SVN repository, perhaps?
-jcr
The troll from ClimateAudit
When you start out with an ad hom like that, you don't give anyone much reason to consider you credible.
not being able to get free access to the source data isn't the same as there not being data.
that sounds a lot like the old creationist canard, "absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence>"
No one will give him data unless they have to because he dishonestly misrepresents it.
That's quite a bold accusation. Can you cite an instance of such a heinous deed on his part?
-jcr
The only viable argument against taking action is to show conclusively that we can be certain about the effects of our carbon emissions, and that they're entirely manageable.
That's not the only viable argument, although I'm sure you wish it were. There are many other arguments, such as those made by China and India when they decline to throw their economies under the proverbial bus at the urging of those countries that already have the standard of living that the developing countries want to obtain.
-jcr
This has been of course the religious mantra of the "Free Market Cures All" deity worshippers
It does not follow that because you worship the state, that those of us who prefer freedom must be worshippers of something else. The market is something we use, the way we use language. It conveys information about priorities and preferences.
-jcr
I would imagine the unions would have their say..and force companies to hire people anyway, even if it isn't necessary.
If the labor isn't necessary, then what leverage would unions have?
-jcr
How were you going to implement that?
Ideally by voting corrupt politicians out of office. If push comes to shove though, the people have the right to dissolve a corrupt government.
-jcr
Whats a matter... you can't make a point so you have to stick with insults?
No, I insult you for amusement, and because you so thoroughly deserve it. I've made my point several times, and you ignore it like a creationist.
-jcr
You're assuming he buys bread at all; he may not buy anything at all. Why do you always ignore that option?
Nice try, but that doesn't support your position. If the kid breaks the window, the shopkeeper is deprived of the value of the window, whatever the shopkeeper might have done with the money otherwise.
we're just building new F22s. ...Instead of things that people would choose to buy of their own free will. Do you honestly fail to see the problem with taking money forcibly and spending it on different things than people would choose to buy? Do you think it would help the economy if I were to seize your bank account and spend it on hood ornaments for Bradley Fighting Vehicles? After all, it would employ hood ornament makers and polishers! Everybody wins, right?
-jcr
Germany got out of its recession on militrary spending, you know, building tanks and PLANES, and that's what later brought the US out of the great depression as well.
That's the standard Keynesian mythology, and it's bullshit. Ask anyone who lived through the war when rationing of basic commodities ended.
-jcr
Ok, just how bad are future MS products going to be, if this guy expects people to feel nostalgic for Vista?
-jcr
Spy agencies have been doing this kind of thing for decades. Slightly altering the wording in documents so that the individual recipient is traceable. They used to have a major problem with classified material being leaked to the press by congressional staffers.
-jcr
In short: if you trust in laws to keep your politicians from selling political favour, remember who makes the laws.
What did I say that could possibly be construed as trusting politicians to obey the law?
-jcr
This technique doesn't require potable water, only salt-free water.
Not even salt-free. It requires two sources of water where one is much less salty than the other.
-jcr
making up ersatz objections is a mark of sophistication and intelligence amongst the ignorant and uneducated.
No kidding. Seems like they swarm /. whenever there's a story about power generation, new space launch techniques, or medical advances.
-jcr
a broken window enriches the glazier instead of the baker. Economically speaking, it didn't matter.
That's the kind of idiocy that Keynes did an amazing job of selling to the pseudo intellectuals like you.
Here, let me try to make simple enough for you to follow:
The kid breaks the window, the glazier replaces it, the upshot is that he has a window again, but not the money he spent on the repair.
The kid doesn't break the window, then the shopkeeper spends his money on bread, and he has BOTH the bread and the window.
So, the choice is, window only, or bread AND a window. Get it now?
If breaking windows was a way to promote economic growth, Germany could have gotten out of the depression by having a Krystallnacht every weekend until they were all rich.
-jcr
Please then, explain the difference between repairing a window which simple broke due to age and one that broke because the kid threw a rock through it, economically speaking.
When the kid breaks the window, the amount of wealth existing in the economy is diminished by the value of the window.
When money is forcibly extracted from the taxpayers to build F22s, and used to employ people in that pursuit, the society loses the wealth that those people could be creating if they were employed in a productive enterprise.
I'll check to see if you actually come up with a refute to any of the points, but somehow I think you're not going to.
You have a point on the top of your head, and that certainly can't be refuted.
-jcr
As companies get bigger, they seek competitive advantages politically,
Yes, they do, and this is why it is imperative to keep the power to favor one business over another out of the hands of the political class. Politicians like Obama and McCain will vote for blatantly unconstitutional measures like the TARP bailout, because they have been bought and paid for. One possible partial remedy for this would be to prohibit any business that receives bailout money from making any political contributions. It should be a condition of receiving the money.
The powerful will always trample over everyone else, whether they are called a corporation or a government.
They will if people let them. In this country, we used to have a means to limit the accumulation power: the constitution. Unfortunately, since 1913 at least, the federal government has routinely ignored it when they wanted to do something like incarcerate people for their race, or steal all the gold in private hands.
Today, however, with the second great depression staring us in the face, there's a growing movement to restrain the government to work within its legal powers. I'm actually far more hopeful about the USA becoming a free country now than I was two years ago.
-jcr
No new C++ features like threads, proper enum classes, or hash tables
Cause one thing C++ sure doesn't have is enough features, right?
-jcr
Oh, because he wrote something over 100 years ago, it automatically MUST be correct, right?
No, you moron. We remember what he wrote back then, because he was right.
Or do you propose that we simply throw everything away as soon as it breaks down, because repairs to existing items drain the economy?
Wow, you really are that dense.
-jcr
No, that's the sales guys you're thinking of.
-jcr
this was a real internet commercial that GM pulled the plug on
Who ordered that commercial, and has the SEC looked into whether they were shorting GM shares?
-jcr
To a collector, my car with very few modifications is worth a whole lot more than a car made to emulate it.
What kind of collector would buy any GM car made after the mid 1970s?
-jcr
Capitalism is the system in which US politics and corporations has been living in the last half-century or more.
I WISH!
No, you're not even close. The system that our government and the larger corporations have created isn't capitalism, it's a rehash of mercantilism. Capitalism is a system of free markets, in which information is conveyed through profits and losses. By insulating larger players from their losses, the government robs us not only of the wealth they loot from us through taxation or inflation to give to these incompetents, but they also keep resources misallocated.
-jcr
The issue is that the government allowed those companies to grow so large.
No, the issue is that the government is using usurped power that the people never granted to keep these companies around after they've failed. The government is looting wealth from everyone who has dollars, to give to incompetent organizations like GM's management and the UAW, to allow them to continue their failure.
-jcr
does the DoD really have a track record for making logical choices like that?
Not lately, but back in the 1940s....
-jcr