Clearly being an informed individual is some sort of negative quality.
Oh, can the sarcasm. Just because I can roll my own UNIX doesn't mean that it's a good use of my time. Even the best Linux distro is still missing things I want, and I have better things to do than go hunting for those bits and pieces or writing them myself.
I have a pretty spiffy DLP TV, and all I use it for is watching DVDs. I haven't bought any cable or satellite service because nobody will just sell me the channels I want, without insisting on bundling in all the bible-thumpers and home shopping network crap. It feels like getting spammed, and it just pisses me off.
I'm convinced that IPTV is the future, and that's mainly because the cable vendors SUCK.
Probably because they're careful enough to be difficult to catch. Life isn't a TV show, where you wrap it up in an hour. Catching that Unabomber asshole took decades. Why do you assume that if a crime is not solved, that the authorities don't want to solve it?
Basically for the same reason we haven't killed all the other terrorists around the world. They're just not that easy to find. It takes a lot of detective work.
My only point I'm trying to make is that blaming Linux because hardware vendors don't want to participate is backwards.
Blame is really beside the point; I can buy a Mac that Just Works, or I can roll the dice with Linux. Now, if you've got time to waste and you're willing to settle for what Linux offers, knock yourself out. Most other people have better things to do.
Just because you're too ignorant to look doesn't mean Linux is broken.
See, there's that obnoxious Linux kiddie affectation of superiority again. I'll have you know, that I was writing drivers twenty years ago, and I have no desire to roll my own UNIX now that I can buy it off the shelf for less than an hour of my time is worth.
But when you just default to monopolyware
Doesn't it hurt to have your knees jerking like that all the time?
Well educate people then. If you see someone bitch about Linux tell them to bitch about the shitty hardware. Put the blame where it ACTUALLY BELONGS.Well educate people then. If you see someone bitch about Linux tell them to bitch about the shitty hardware. Put the blame where it ACTUALLY BELONGS.
Do you think users prefer to watch a movie, or not watch a movie as long as they figure out who to blame?
While you Linux zealots ponder that question, we Mac users (and even the Windows users) will continue to enjoy functionality that Linux doesn't offer.
These vendors need to be convinced that we are a market they should get into, not that we're desperate enough for their crap that we're willing to give up the entire movement for it.
Speaking as a sometime vendor, I couldn't care less about your "movement". If there's money to be made by offering my product on Linux, I'd consider doing so, but would only go through with it unless the money to be made outweighed the hassle. The last thing I need is a handful of customers berating me for not meeting their standards of ideological purity.
Either her data hold up to peer review, or they don't. Of course, this is a sociology study, which isn't noted for being the most scientifically rigorous field in academia.
When I was at the Valley Fair store for the Panther launch, a man asked me "what happens if I install this on more than one machine?" I told him "Well sir, you need to have a license for each machine." He said "Yeah, but what happens?" So, getting his drift, I answered "Well, there's nothing on that disk that's going to phone home to Apple and rat you out, but legally, that package entitles you to use it on one machine." He then said "See, that's what I love about you guys!" and he put back the single-license package and bought a 5-license family pack. He then came back to where I was stationed, and told me all about how much he hated Microsoft's product activation system for the next quarter hour or so.;-)
Were they fired because their download of a torrent included providing pieces of the torrent to others in the swarm?
Got it, first guess.
Apple has a fiduciary responsibility here, and letting their employees off the hook for distributing their software to anonymous parties could make it quite difficult for Apple to protect that property in the future.
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I program out the channels I don't watch. Works kinda like adblock.
You're still paying for them, though.
-jcr
Clearly being an informed individual is some sort of negative quality.
Oh, can the sarcasm. Just because I can roll my own UNIX doesn't mean that it's a good use of my time. Even the best Linux distro is still missing things I want, and I have better things to do than go hunting for those bits and pieces or writing them myself.
-jcr
I have a pretty spiffy DLP TV, and all I use it for is watching DVDs. I haven't bought any cable or satellite service because nobody will just sell me the channels I want, without insisting on bundling in all the bible-thumpers and home shopping network crap. It feels like getting spammed, and it just pisses me off.
I'm convinced that IPTV is the future, and that's mainly because the cable vendors SUCK.
-jcr
If it's so easy, why aren't you phoning in a tip to the cops?
-jcr
I'm with the 'terrorists' on this one.
Then go to hell with them.
-jcr
Why aren't they in jail?
Probably because they're careful enough to be difficult to catch. Life isn't a TV show, where you wrap it up in an hour. Catching that Unabomber asshole took decades. Why do you assume that if a crime is not solved, that the authorities don't want to solve it?
-jcr
But were they morally wrong?
Yes.
Next question?
-jcr
Basically for the same reason we haven't killed all the other terrorists around the world. They're just not that easy to find. It takes a lot of detective work.
-jcr
My only point I'm trying to make is that blaming Linux because hardware vendors don't want to participate is backwards.
Blame is really beside the point; I can buy a Mac that Just Works, or I can roll the dice with Linux. Now, if you've got time to waste and you're willing to settle for what Linux offers, knock yourself out. Most other people have better things to do.
-jcr
Just because you're too ignorant to look doesn't mean Linux is broken.
See, there's that obnoxious Linux kiddie affectation of superiority again. I'll have you know, that I was writing drivers twenty years ago, and I have no desire to roll my own UNIX now that I can buy it off the shelf for less than an hour of my time is worth.
But when you just default to monopolyware
Doesn't it hurt to have your knees jerking like that all the time?
-jcr
If you just buy anything without a thought towards the implications
Will you kindly drop your affectation of superiority? One of the "implications" I consider is how much time I care to waste hunting for drivers.
-jcr
So long as your happy not having choice about the matter all the power to you.
I have the same choices available to me that you do. I just don't happen to reject vendors on ideological grounds.
-jcr
You say my hardware doesn't work in Linux, fix Linux. I say fix your hardware.
That, young Jedi, is why you fail.
-jcr
Well educate people then. If you see someone bitch about Linux tell them to bitch about the shitty hardware. Put the blame where it ACTUALLY BELONGS.Well educate people then. If you see someone bitch about Linux tell them to bitch about the shitty hardware. Put the blame where it ACTUALLY BELONGS.
Do you think users prefer to watch a movie, or not watch a movie as long as they figure out who to blame?
While you Linux zealots ponder that question, we Mac users (and even the Windows users) will continue to enjoy functionality that Linux doesn't offer.
-jcr
These vendors need to be convinced that we are a market they should get into, not that we're desperate enough for their crap that we're willing to give up the entire movement for it.
Speaking as a sometime vendor, I couldn't care less about your "movement". If there's money to be made by offering my product on Linux, I'd consider doing so, but would only go through with it unless the money to be made outweighed the hassle. The last thing I need is a handful of customers berating me for not meeting their standards of ideological purity.
-jcr
Either her data hold up to peer review, or they don't. Of course, this is a sociology study, which isn't noted for being the most scientifically rigorous field in academia.
-jcr
It isnt like they were THE source for it...
That excuse doesn't hold water. They were a source for it, and that's why they deserved to be canned.
-jcr
Did I miss something? Honestly.
Yes, you did.
I RTFA, but all I saw was that these employees wanted to look at it themselves, and not pass it around to their friends.
Bittorrent. Look it up.
-jcr
I agree that they did something wrong, but I could also argue that they needed to do so in order to do their jobs properly.
Apple management disagrees with you. Retail employees get trained on new releases when they're close to shipping.
-jcr
When I was at the Valley Fair store for the Panther launch, a man asked me "what happens if I install this on more than one machine?" I told him "Well sir, you need to have a license for each machine." He said "Yeah, but what happens?" So, getting his drift, I answered "Well, there's nothing on that disk that's going to phone home to Apple and rat you out, but legally, that package entitles you to use it on one machine." He then said "See, that's what I love about you guys!" and he put back the single-license package and bought a 5-license family pack. He then came back to where I was stationed, and told me all about how much he hated Microsoft's product activation system for the next quarter hour or so. ;-)
-jcr
Were they fired because their download of a torrent included providing pieces of the torrent to others in the swarm?
Got it, first guess.
Apple has a fiduciary responsibility here, and letting their employees off the hook for distributing their software to anonymous parties could make it quite difficult for Apple to protect that property in the future.
-jcr
In the world of open source
How is this in any way relevant to firing someone for breaking a contract?
-jcr
If you are in a "protected class" (crippled, black, female, gay, etc) they must be able to prove that that's not why they fired you.
Actually, the burden of proof is on the plaintiff.
-jcr
they didn't re-share it
Yes, they did. Look up how BitTorrent works.
-jcr
Firing you for copping a "what you going to do about it?" attitude is hardly whimsical.
-jcr