The question isn't whether the employers have the right to block net access, it's whether or not it's smart to do so. Anything that increases an employee's sense of isolation from the employer (like being treated like a little kid when it comes to net access, for example) will increase attrition, and attrition is *very* expensive.
Let's see... A countermeasure for this device should be as simple as a litle RF generator that fuzzes out the GPS over a short range..1 watts should be plenty. I'm sure a lot of kids would pay fifty bucks for that.
What we're discussing is not what I called it. Referring to something as "force" when it is not, is simply hyperbole that adds nothing to the discussion. If a situation involves force, it's a matter for the criminal courts. If it doesn't involve force, it's a matter for negotiation or civil litigation.
Chinese workers *must* work that hard just to get enough money to pay the ongoing costs of living.
Yep, and it was that way in the west too, before capitalism raised the productivity of labor to the point where we could take a break. Japanese workers worked like hell in the 1950's, too. China's increasing their GNP at an incredible rate, and if the Red Dynasty doesn't fuck it up with another Cultural Revolution, they'll probably reach our standard of living in forty years or so.
This happens anytime the poor are at a hugely different standard of living than the rich,
So, North Korea and Cuba are about to have a revolution? Great, I hope you're right. Those fucking party plutocrats have been exploiting the proles for far too long. I just hope it happens with as little bloodshed as possible.
My company, the location I work specifically, is making a TON of money for the company. A TON. Because they're forcing us to work 20 extra hours a week.
Congratulations! You are the first one to speak up with a standard lame excuse!
I'm just sick to death of kids who spend $30/week on overpriced coffee, and while drinking it with their friends bitch about how their favorite performers have the gall to have their life's work sold for a dollar or less per song.
These seem to me to be completely orthogonal issues. If you think coffee costs too much, get it at 7-11.
The publicity brought it to Apple's attention, they had an audit, and they found that some people were working more hours than they were allowed to. They did NOT find that anyone was REQUIRED to do so by the contractor. You have no basis to conclude that Apple was aware of this problem before anyone else in the USA.
If you really think Apple didn't know what was going on, I have a bridge to sell you.
If you think your guesses have any relationship to reality, then you've already bought a bridge.
If his pay is not enough, then he should increase the value he offers in the marketplace. This can be done through education, investment in a business, etc, etc.
Companies are pushing human rights back into the dark ages.
Dude, put down the Chomsky and look around you. Capital investment raises the productivity of labor, which is why we have the standard of living that we do. Would you trade places with a laborer in the Socialist Paradises of Cuba or North Korea?
The standard of living in China is undergoing a rapid rise, because they're in the process of giving up all that commie bullshit. A lot of Chinese are working longer hours than you or I do, but at least they're not in danger of starving to death like they were in the first two decades of the Red Dynasty.
There never was any point in arguing with you. Take a look back in the thread, and note that you started off ad-hominem in your very first reply, and then kept flogging an appeal to authority argument: (eg, lots of Eminent Academics disagree with you, etc.)
It was clear from the get-go that your position is an emotional one, and I am under no obligation to comply with your demands. I know this is infuriating to a larval authoritarian like yourself, but that's your own problem. Try to work it out in therapy.
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The question isn't whether the employers have the right to block net access, it's whether or not it's smart to do so. Anything that increases an employee's sense of isolation from the employer (like being treated like a little kid when it comes to net access, for example) will increase attrition, and attrition is *very* expensive.
-jcr
Let's see... A countermeasure for this device should be as simple as a litle RF generator that fuzzes out the GPS over a short range. .1 watts should be plenty. I'm sure a lot of kids would pay fifty bucks for that.
-jcr
It doesn't matter what you call it.
What we're discussing is not what I called it. Referring to something as "force" when it is not, is simply hyperbole that adds nothing to the discussion. If a situation involves force, it's a matter for the criminal courts. If it doesn't involve force, it's a matter for negotiation or civil litigation.
-jcr
Dude,
Forget how much you want this to be true: it doesn't pass the smell test.
Very nice guy.
That's what they said about Ponzi, too.
-jcr
In this case, it's the unspoken suspicion that refusing to work overtime would cost you your job -- which isn't that off-base at all.
That's not force. Look it up.
-jcr
Chinese workers *must* work that hard just to get enough money to pay the ongoing costs of living.
Yep, and it was that way in the west too, before capitalism raised the productivity of labor to the point where we could take a break. Japanese workers worked like hell in the 1950's, too. China's increasing their GNP at an incredible rate, and if the Red Dynasty doesn't fuck it up with another Cultural Revolution, they'll probably reach our standard of living in forty years or so.
-jcr
"Why don't iPods work with my choice of operating system?"
The answer is, because Apple isn't convinced that the marginal increase in sales of iPods to Linux users is worth the effort to port iTunes to Linux.
-jcr
Can you seriously imagine Linux users being happy with Apple adding DRM to their platform, then providing a way for them to buy DRM-locked music?
Sure I can. Not all Linux users are FSF-style zealots. Some people just use it because it suits their needs.
-jcr
This happens anytime the poor are at a hugely different standard of living than the rich,
So, North Korea and Cuba are about to have a revolution? Great, I hope you're right. Those fucking party plutocrats have been exploiting the proles for far too long. I just hope it happens with as little bloodshed as possible.
-jcr
D'oh! Had a stale buffer that I pasted. Hate it when that happens. That should have read:
Well, what was in Russia, was not exactly Marxism, it was Leninism.
Congratulations! You are the first one to speak up with a standard lame excuse!
-jcr
My company, the location I work specifically, is making a TON of money for the company. A TON. Because they're forcing us to work 20 extra hours a week.
Congratulations! You are the first one to speak up with a standard lame excuse!
-jcr
Because they're forcing us to work 20 extra hours a week.
If they're forcing you to work at all, then call a cop.
I suspect that you're misusing the word "force". It's a common habit.
-jcr
I think every dumb American commie like yourself should spend the time I spent in a country like Russia
Hear, hear!
I wish every US college had a course on Marxism taught by someone who had actually suffered it.
-jcr
Except then you'd' be full of shit, since copyright infringement is theft.
No, it's infringment. That's why it has a different word, and why it's covered by a different law.
-jcr
I'm just sick to death of kids who spend $30/week on overpriced coffee, and while drinking it with their friends bitch about how their favorite performers have the gall to have their life's work sold for a dollar or less per song.
These seem to me to be completely orthogonal issues. If you think coffee costs too much, get it at 7-11.
-jcr
No, Apple stopped it when it was made public.
The publicity brought it to Apple's attention, they had an audit, and they found that some people were working more hours than they were allowed to. They did NOT find that anyone was REQUIRED to do so by the contractor. You have no basis to conclude that Apple was aware of this problem before anyone else in the USA.
If you really think Apple didn't know what was going on, I have a bridge to sell you.
If you think your guesses have any relationship to reality, then you've already bought a bridge.
-jcr
Well, I suppose you're off to the Amazon jungle to live in paradise, then? Let us know how it works out.
-jcr
If his pay is not enough, then he should increase the value he offers in the marketplace. This can be done through education, investment in a business, etc, etc.
-jcr
Developed countries working hours have increased markedly in the last 50 years.
Generally in line with increases in our tax burdens.
-jcr
Hold the people responsible who you can get your hands on. That's what we do with drugs. We bust users, bust dealers, and bust producers.
And gosh, look how well that works! Yes, I sleep better knowing that our government is out there busting kids and cancer patients for smoking dope.
-jcr
Companies are pushing human rights back into the dark ages.
Dude, put down the Chomsky and look around you. Capital investment raises the productivity of labor, which is why we have the standard of living that we do. Would you trade places with a laborer in the Socialist Paradises of Cuba or North Korea?
The standard of living in China is undergoing a rapid rise, because they're in the process of giving up all that commie bullshit. A lot of Chinese are working longer hours than you or I do, but at least they're not in danger of starving to death like they were in the first two decades of the Red Dynasty.
-jcr
Apple have chosen to permit these unlawful working hours.
Nope. Apple's contract manufacturer did so, and Apple put a stop to it when it was brought to Apple's attention.
-jcr
You were unable/unwilling or too stupid to do so (I am going with unable/too stupid).
See? Why would I take you seriously at all?
-jcr
Kid,
There never was any point in arguing with you. Take a look back in the thread, and note that you started off ad-hominem in your very first reply, and then kept flogging an appeal to authority argument: (eg, lots of Eminent Academics disagree with you, etc.)
It was clear from the get-go that your position is an emotional one, and I am under no obligation to comply with your demands. I know this is infuriating to a larval authoritarian like yourself, but that's your own problem. Try to work it out in therapy.
-jcr
I sure did, but not year-round.
-jcr