Train each citizen how to use and maintain a firearm safely
Teach each citizen the complete history of the U.S.
Two years of self-defense and history education. Plus, every citizen will know how to maintain physical fitness. At the end, each citizen will be licensed to carry a firearm, and will get to keep the weapon issued to them during their training.
I don't really agree with your bullt points. "Train our populace to be more effective workers?" -- we're already the most productive workers in the world, behind France. And what business is it of the government to train workers? The military is supposed to defend the nation. Training its citizens to defend themselves, and understand their country's history, is in keeping with that mission. "promoting social skills" sounds fishy, especially as a function of the army.
Under the Federal Reserve System, a tax cut also inflates the money supply. Sounds strange, I know; but taxes, under a fiat money system, or one of the ways that money is taken back out of the system, thus lowering inflation.
Background: Al Gore said during the first debates that Social Security is backed by the "full faith and credit of the U.S. Government".
(1) When the time comes to pay for Boomer checks out of current reciepts, will you inflate the money supply via the Fed, or will you raise taxes, or both?
(2) And do you have an estimate of by how much?
(3) Or would you support phasing out the social security system throuhg attrition?
This doesn't excuse E-Trade's actions in this case. I'm extremely pleased they had to pay the restitution. But the implication that "open-source" folks were singled out is
incorrect.
Er, they were singled out. The "Friends and Family" participants in the directed shares program didn't answer that questionnaire, and neither did anyone else -- other than the "open source" people. Did you read the guy's page? When asked to cite the regulations they were complying with, they could not.
As it's been documented elsewhere on this web site, the primary reason that E*Trade kicked out many participants from the directed share program is by claiming that they failed some sort of a
"financial questionaire". This appears to explain why E*Trade ran two separate directed share programs. E*Trade admits in that letter that only the open source participants (the ones that were
put into the the 200,000 share pile) were given that questionaire.
In other words, there was a whole bunch of people, the ones that fell into the "other" directed share program with 400,000 shares, that didn't have to go through that rigamarole.
However, in direct testimony at the hearing, E*Trade contradicted their own documents, and E*Trade's representative distinctly claimed that EVERYONE had to take that "financial
questionaire". When my lawyer asked whether Linus Torvalds would've had to take that questionaire, E*Trade emphatically said yes! Gee-whiz, I didn't know that Linus had extensive stock
market experience (since he did get some shares, according to media reports at that time)... Folks -- if any one of you decide to drag E*Trade back into arbitration, please make sure that you
have a lot of self control, and that you are not subject to loud outbursts of laughter for the slightest reasons.
[...]
E*Trade was eventually forced to admit that there was no NASD or SEC requirement whatsoever that explicitly required that financial questionaire to be given, and that their claim was simply
based on the general "know your customer" rule. It also didn't help E*Trade's case that their own customer agreements explicitly stated that E*Trade does not offer any investment advice, so
basically they were caught in a major disrepancy. On one hand, E*Trade disavowed any obligations to provide any investment advice to their customers. But E*Trade also claimed an obligation
to make sure that the investment in question -- the IPO -- was appropriate for the applicants. E*Trade response was a very waffling argument to the effect that the IPO situation was an
exception to their clearly stated disclaimer, from their customer agreement, that E*Trade does not provide any investment advice.
I am curious as to why they placed "open-source" participants into a smaller pool, and scrutinized them specifically. I did not participate, so I didn't see the questionnaire. I wish you could post a copy of it, or at least that subjective question.
Why would E*Trade want to profile open-sourcers? Did RedHat know about this? Where's the 200,000 shares? If they were sold, who made the money?
Their SEC Central Index Key is 0001015780 -- perhaps something enlightening can be dug up in the Edgar database, but I doubt it.
The independant PC vendors can just install Linux or FreeDOS or something else they know people will wipe (or maybe even want), and viola, it has an OS.
I can't wait. They use Cable & Wireless here, and their service simply sucks in the evenings mos days. A particular C&W router (as shown by traceroute) always fails. My ping times go from 40msec to 4000+msec, and then I lose connectivity. What would be interesting is BGP between ISPs; I could choose a single ISP, or several, if I wanted better connectivity.
YOu'll have to do better than that. Cite scripture. Explain yourself. I remain unconvinced, and think that you're more a follower of the church than of Jesus. Also, "traditional christian beliefs" are not necessisarily biblical. Purgatory, for instance, is pretty traditional; but it's not in the bible.
OK, so this has CID 277, so that explains part of it, but it still amazes me that this post remains at +2. If this post was arguing PRO-religion/christianity/catholocism, it would have been moded into oblivion in.4 seconds. I'm used to living in this lost world, but the bias here is larger than I expected.
So, what's your beef? What was anti-Christian about my post, assuming that that's what you've got the problem with? Any why post anonymously?
Those who spend their time chasing the 'Karma' being handed out by the 'moderators' at SlashDot, will only find torment in the end.
I don't collect karma. I'm not kidding. My karma did not rise due to points allocated to that post.
It has come to my attention that the user who posted the parent comment has a nick that is the binary representation of 666.
You're darn tootin'!
You may be earnest in your satanism, but I am one-hundred fold more earnest in my respect for and love of Jesus Christ, Our Lord. If you ask Jesus to come into your heart, he will. That's all you have to do. Then you can put your pursuit of 'Karma' and other worldy goods behind you.
Snort. I know you're joking.:) However, theology is a pretty intersting topic. Did you know that satan and hell are largely inventions of the Catholic Church? And a lot of Protestant churches latched onto the fire-and-brimstone-hell, the model for which was the local trash dump in jerusalem (called "gehenna") which regularly caught fire. As far as I know, the Bible teaches that the 'wicked' will not be tormented for eternity in Hell (Gehenna/shaol/etc), but will simply be destroyed -- that is, cease to exist. The Gnostics began the process of creating a "Satan" -- an embodiment of evil -- from the biblical mentions of "satan" -- which just means "adversary," and "the devil" -- which means "slanderer." So "Satan" is the "father of all lies" in as much as the concepts and words that were lumped into the capital-S satan mean adversary-to-god, liar, deciver, slanderer, etc. Giving all evil corporeal form (no matter how fictional) allowed the Gnostics and their later followers to shift blame off of God for the things they thought were bad in the universe. Small-e evil became big-E Evil. All of the little opposers of Christendom were collected together and given form under the banner Satan.
Notice also that Satanism is a derivative, not of Christianity, but of Catholicism. Black masses, inversion of the Catholic pentacle (which means "truth" and was painted on the inside of crusader's shields) to make the satanic pinnacle/goats' head, etc. In that Satan is defined as the antagonist/slanderer/etc. of catholicism, it is not surprising that it is, in fact, a dark mirror of catholicism. If something isn't adversarial or slanderous of catholic dogma, then it isn't satanic. Therefore, to be satanic, you must oppose, subvert and slander catholicism.
So, the pursuit of Satanism is really a convoluted self-deception based on wishful thinking begun by Gnostics many centuries ago. Not that it doesn't result in actual harm to actual people, but by setting it up with its own independant reality, rather than acknowledging its true nature, people give it way too much credit and authority. If the adversaries of the Church had never been lumped into an all-powerful Prince of This Planet, Satan, I imagine that there would be much less "satanism" and organized evil in the world.
Incidentally, what set you off originally was my 666-base-2 slashdot nick. It is unclear from the Bible that "666" has anything to do with the "satan" of popular doctrine. It is the "mark of the beast" -- but what is the beast? It might be the return of a global economic and military superpower akin in nature to the Holy Roman Empire. It's also used as a reference to "the Antichrist" -- which would be an enslaver rather than a liberator of Man; perhaps a single person, but more likely a system. It's also called a "great false prophet," a deciver of the people. It involves the ability to buy, sell and work contingent on the acceptance or refusal to accept the mark of the beast. I submit to you that the Beast was the Holy Roman Empire at the time that The Revelation of St John was written. The Romans used Fiat currency and printed lots and lots of it to finance their military ventures. They compelled its acceptance by the populace by the force of law. You couldn't work or be paid or buy anything without the use of Roamn currency. At the same time, Roman currency was a lie, a deception in and of itself. Unlike earlier Greece and Byzantium, which had gold standards (i.e., stable money actually worth something intrinsically), Rome money had no inherent or fixed value. In fact, its only value was that decreed by the state, diluted by people, unwillingness to accept it at face value. The real Beast is a military power that mandates acceptance of a worhtless currency by its subjects, which allows it to collect unlimited resources from them through inflation rather than the much more direct and difficult use of taxation. Rome finally went broke, and did it spetacularly. Byzantium, by contrast, had stable money (and prices) throughout its 800+ year ascendency, and its money was accepted the world over -- from China to Spain -- not because of the decree of law, but because it was actually valuable, and impossible to counterfeit. Metal is metal, or it is not; whereas fiat money merely has a stamp and a law backing it.
Remember that Jesus warned against the love of money as the cause of evil. He attacked the moneychangers. Real money -- like that an byzantium -- represents real value (in goods or labor). False money -- as that used in Rome and by the moneychangers in galilee -- represents a lie and the desire for unearned wealth.
Given this background, I would say that the Beasts of the modern day are the Federal Reserve, the IMF, the World Bank, and any other issuer of Fiat money; and the military powers that mandate its uses -- such as the United States, Britain, China, Japan, etc. It does not require prophecy to see that any time a government gives banks charter to print unlimited money, so that it can have unlimited spending power, that the banks will want to do all they can to get the governments in debt and keep them there, because they colelct the interest. Look at the history of the Rothschilds supporting both sides of the wars in Europe, and smuggling for both sides to boot. Look at how the Rothschilds, through JP Morgan and the Federal Reserve, draw the U.S. into World War I -- the banks benefitted massively through that war. Morgan was appointed banker and purchaser for the Allies. Total graft.
So, the moral of this story is that there is not just one Beast, who is satan, but lots of beasts. Any institutionalized deception is the hand of the Beast. U.S. dollars bear the current Mark of the Beast (the words "federal reserve note" and "legal tender for all debts"). The Mark fo the Beast used to be Niro, whose face appeared on the money.
Titanium is as strong as steel, but 45% lighter. It is 60% heavier than aluminum, but twice as strong. Not surprisingly, it is often used in aircraft and missle hulls, as well as lacrosse sticks and mountian bike frames. It's used in that rainbow-hued metallic jewlery available at the mall.
Because it's not corroded by salt water, it's used in desalination plants, propellers and other marine applications (including lures).
Titanium is used to make "Shape memory alloys", notably nitinol (nickel-titanium). You can use nitinol wire to make walking robots, with the nitinol used as the musculature.
It it used in pigments and is what makes white toothpaste white (TiO2). In fact, this is its major use.
Plus, it's shiny.:)
Oh, that's just silly. And, if you want to make it an example of "capitalism in action," include the part about their customers getting pissed, and refusing to upgrade and/or switching to other distros or even other OSes. It's pretty silly to take one specific bad thing and attribute it to a system-wide socioeconomic fault.
I recently upgraded to 7.0 from 6.2. What a disaster. I spent a weekend patching it, and then finally backed up my data in reinstalled 7.0 from scratch. I was then greeted by a total inability to compile 2.2.17 with the gcc in RH 7 (2.96). I submitted a bug report ("compiler screwed in 7.0") and was told that it's not a bug, that I should use kgcc to compile kernels. Of course, this wasn't documented anywhere, and in spite of the fact that I chose "kernel development" in the installer, it did not install kgcc. I had to go get the CDs and install it. When I ran kgcc -v, i saw that it was gcc (egcs) 2.91.66, which is a working compiler. So i symlinked cc and gcc to kgcc and everything seems to be fine. I asked on the same bug why they ship a broken compiler and require manual isntallation of a working one in RH7. I was told that it's the kernel's fault, read the LKML. I think my question is still valid -- why did they ship with a broken compiler? Granted, the kernel has special facilities in their makefiles for using kgcc rather than gcc, but that doesn't solve the problem for kernel modules compiled outside the kernel tree. And I still had to hand-edit the source for the Universal Tun Driver to get it to compile right on RH7, even using "kgcc".
What's the big advantage of 2.96? I haven't seen it yet, so if someone could please explain it to me...
Been there. Done that. All of the decisions are actually made off-list. The list is a decoy.
> And then ignore your patches.
Hmmm, maybe that says something about the quality of your coding... (i.e. it sucks ass)
And who are you, exactly? Some expert in ass-sucking? Getting patches and ideas rejected by The Posse (Viro, Cox, Tso, Molnar, etc) doesn't mean they're bad. To date, it's meant that they tickle an ideological allergy to things not posix. For instance, even though Linus stated he wanted a clean way to suppor streams in Linux, in order to support existing filesystems, The Posse wouldn't let it happen, and even went out of their way to stifle the debate. Ask Cox about his kill file sometime. He won't even include fixes to printk to provide 64-bit support (in spite of the fact that linux is supposed to run on 64-bit machines, like UltraSparcs).
Just because they're the current in-crowd dosn't make them right. For instance, Linus refuses to let a kernel debugger be included in Linux. He, and a number of morons on the kernel list, say that printk is all you need to debug the kernel. Yeah, okay. But then support for printing 64 bit numbers in printk is rejected, meaning that it's actually impossible to debug 64-but data structures with the recommended method, printk. It's all sort of silly. I can't wait to see 2.4.0-pooch-screw-37.
I can understand that Linux doesn't have a design, that's it's evolved as it's coded. But it could at least have a philosophy. Currently (2.4.x) it just has problems, and the Mindcraft benchmarks to refer to.
http://www.flyingbuttmonkeys.com was a 250MHz AMD k6-2 with 32MB of ram and a 4GB IDE hard drive during the past month when it's been repeatedly slashdotted. Twice, it served over 120000 hits an hour, at an average packet rate of more than 1000/sec, without a problem. Lately it got unreliable because of a failing network card, but that's not exactly Apache's fault. 100k hits a day, right. If the slashdotting had been in effect for the whole day, my little Linuxbox would have taken and served 2.88 million hits that day. the load stayed around 0.20. Imaging what a machine with some actual memory and CPU could do!
Yeah, they'll add it by "accident" like with JFFS.
Hi, we're happy to announce the release of kernel 2.4.0-pooch-screw, wherein we screwed up the VM and VFS again, and occasionally even Ext2 gets scragged, but we tossed in another journaling filesystem.
Perhaps these guys are smoking cherry-flavored crack. What's the kernel list have to say about this? Viro? Care to chime in? so they're working with "the community" to get it included, in spite of the fact that the thrid feature freeze is on?
Slashdot Mirror
"As much as we can get; it's all the government's money anyway"
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Two years of self-defense and history education. Plus, every citizen will know how to maintain physical fitness. At the end, each citizen will be licensed to carry a firearm, and will get to keep the weapon issued to them during their training.
I don't really agree with your bullt points. "Train our populace to be more effective workers?" -- we're already the most productive workers in the world, behind France. And what business is it of the government to train workers? The military is supposed to defend the nation. Training its citizens to defend themselves, and understand their country's history, is in keeping with that mission. "promoting social skills" sounds fishy, especially as a function of the army.
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Under the Federal Reserve System, a tax cut also inflates the money supply. Sounds strange, I know; but taxes, under a fiat money system, or one of the ways that money is taken back out of the system, thus lowering inflation.
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Because if we pay off the debt, the money supply will be extingushed. America has debt-based money.
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Background: Al Gore said during the first debates that Social Security is backed by the "full faith and credit of the U.S. Government".
(1) When the time comes to pay for Boomer checks out of current reciepts, will you inflate the money supply via the Fed, or will you raise taxes, or both?
(2) And do you have an estimate of by how much?
(3) Or would you support phasing out the social security system throuhg attrition?
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I imagine a replacement would be backwards-compatible, but include new features/perform better/etc.
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We've got space, underwater, and nano. What other frontiers or environments are left for computers to work in? My house. (rimshot).
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Er, they were singled out. The "Friends and Family" participants in the directed shares program didn't answer that questionnaire, and neither did anyone else -- other than the "open source" people. Did you read the guy's page? When asked to cite the regulations they were complying with, they could not.
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I am curious as to why they placed "open-source" participants into a smaller pool, and scrutinized them specifically. I did not participate, so I didn't see the questionnaire. I wish you could post a copy of it, or at least that subjective question.
Why would E*Trade want to profile open-sourcers? Did RedHat know about this? Where's the 200,000 shares? If they were sold, who made the money?
Their SEC Central Index Key is 0001015780 -- perhaps something enlightening can be dug up in the Edgar database, but I doubt it.
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The independant PC vendors can just install Linux or FreeDOS or something else they know people will wipe (or maybe even want), and viola, it has an OS.
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I can't wait. They use Cable & Wireless here, and their service simply sucks in the evenings mos days. A particular C&W router (as shown by traceroute) always fails. My ping times go from 40msec to 4000+msec, and then I lose connectivity. What would be interesting is BGP between ISPs; I could choose a single ISP, or several, if I wanted better connectivity.
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YOu'll have to do better than that. Cite scripture. Explain yourself. I remain unconvinced, and think that you're more a follower of the church than of Jesus. Also, "traditional christian beliefs" are not necessisarily biblical. Purgatory, for instance, is pretty traditional; but it's not in the bible.
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If your views had been supporting the Bible/Christianity rather than against it,
Explain to me how my post was against it?
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OK, so this has CID 277, so that explains part of it, but it still amazes me that this post remains at +2. If this post was arguing PRO-religion/christianity/catholocism, it would have been moded into oblivion in .4 seconds. I'm used to living in this lost world, but the bias here is larger than I expected.
So, what's your beef? What was anti-Christian about my post, assuming that that's what you've got the problem with? Any why post anonymously?
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Those who spend their time chasing the 'Karma' being handed out by the 'moderators' at SlashDot, will only find torment in the end.
:) However, theology is a pretty intersting topic. Did you know that satan and hell are largely inventions of the Catholic Church? And a lot of Protestant churches latched onto the fire-and-brimstone-hell, the model for which was the local trash dump in jerusalem (called "gehenna") which regularly caught fire. As far as I know, the Bible teaches that the 'wicked' will not be tormented for eternity in Hell (Gehenna/shaol/etc), but will simply be destroyed -- that is, cease to exist. The Gnostics began the process of creating a "Satan" -- an embodiment of evil -- from the biblical mentions of "satan" -- which just means "adversary," and "the devil" -- which means "slanderer." So "Satan" is the "father of all lies" in as much as the concepts and words that were lumped into the capital-S satan mean adversary-to-god, liar, deciver, slanderer, etc. Giving all evil corporeal form (no matter how fictional) allowed the Gnostics and their later followers to shift blame off of God for the things they thought were bad in the universe. Small-e evil became big-E Evil. All of the little opposers of Christendom were collected together and given form under the banner Satan.
I don't collect karma. I'm not kidding. My karma did not rise due to points allocated to that post.
It has come to my attention that the user who posted the parent comment has a nick that is the binary representation of 666.
You're darn tootin'!
You may be earnest in your satanism, but I am one-hundred fold more earnest in my respect for and love of Jesus Christ, Our Lord. If you ask Jesus to come into your heart, he will. That's all you have to do. Then you can put your pursuit of 'Karma' and other worldy goods behind you.
Snort. I know you're joking.
Notice also that Satanism is a derivative, not of Christianity, but of Catholicism. Black masses, inversion of the Catholic pentacle (which means "truth" and was painted on the inside of crusader's shields) to make the satanic pinnacle/goats' head, etc. In that Satan is defined as the antagonist/slanderer/etc. of catholicism, it is not surprising that it is, in fact, a dark mirror of catholicism. If something isn't adversarial or slanderous of catholic dogma, then it isn't satanic. Therefore, to be satanic, you must oppose, subvert and slander catholicism.
So, the pursuit of Satanism is really a convoluted self-deception based on wishful thinking begun by Gnostics many centuries ago. Not that it doesn't result in actual harm to actual people, but by setting it up with its own independant reality, rather than acknowledging its true nature, people give it way too much credit and authority. If the adversaries of the Church had never been lumped into an all-powerful Prince of This Planet, Satan, I imagine that there would be much less "satanism" and organized evil in the world.
Incidentally, what set you off originally was my 666-base-2 slashdot nick. It is unclear from the Bible that "666" has anything to do with the "satan" of popular doctrine. It is the "mark of the beast" -- but what is the beast? It might be the return of a global economic and military superpower akin in nature to the Holy Roman Empire. It's also used as a reference to "the Antichrist" -- which would be an enslaver rather than a liberator of Man; perhaps a single person, but more likely a system. It's also called a "great false prophet," a deciver of the people. It involves the ability to buy, sell and work contingent on the acceptance or refusal to accept the mark of the beast. I submit to you that the Beast was the Holy Roman Empire at the time that The Revelation of St John was written. The Romans used Fiat currency and printed lots and lots of it to finance their military ventures. They compelled its acceptance by the populace by the force of law. You couldn't work or be paid or buy anything without the use of Roamn currency. At the same time, Roman currency was a lie, a deception in and of itself. Unlike earlier Greece and Byzantium, which had gold standards (i.e., stable money actually worth something intrinsically), Rome money had no inherent or fixed value. In fact, its only value was that decreed by the state, diluted by people, unwillingness to accept it at face value. The real Beast is a military power that mandates acceptance of a worhtless currency by its subjects, which allows it to collect unlimited resources from them through inflation rather than the much more direct and difficult use of taxation. Rome finally went broke, and did it spetacularly. Byzantium, by contrast, had stable money (and prices) throughout its 800+ year ascendency, and its money was accepted the world over -- from China to Spain -- not because of the decree of law, but because it was actually valuable, and impossible to counterfeit. Metal is metal, or it is not; whereas fiat money merely has a stamp and a law backing it.
Remember that Jesus warned against the love of money as the cause of evil. He attacked the moneychangers. Real money -- like that an byzantium -- represents real value (in goods or labor). False money -- as that used in Rome and by the moneychangers in galilee -- represents a lie and the desire for unearned wealth.
Given this background, I would say that the Beasts of the modern day are the Federal Reserve, the IMF, the World Bank, and any other issuer of Fiat money; and the military powers that mandate its uses -- such as the United States, Britain, China, Japan, etc. It does not require prophecy to see that any time a government gives banks charter to print unlimited money, so that it can have unlimited spending power, that the banks will want to do all they can to get the governments in debt and keep them there, because they colelct the interest. Look at the history of the Rothschilds supporting both sides of the wars in Europe, and smuggling for both sides to boot. Look at how the Rothschilds, through JP Morgan and the Federal Reserve, draw the U.S. into World War I -- the banks benefitted massively through that war. Morgan was appointed banker and purchaser for the Allies. Total graft.
So, the moral of this story is that there is not just one Beast, who is satan, but lots of beasts. Any institutionalized deception is the hand of the Beast. U.S. dollars bear the current Mark of the Beast (the words "federal reserve note" and "legal tender for all debts"). The Mark fo the Beast used to be Niro, whose face appeared on the money.
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Titanium is as strong as steel, but 45% lighter. It is 60% heavier than aluminum, but twice as strong. Not surprisingly, it is often used in aircraft and missle hulls, as well as lacrosse sticks and mountian bike frames. It's used in that rainbow-hued metallic jewlery available at the mall. Because it's not corroded by salt water, it's used in desalination plants, propellers and other marine applications (including lures). Titanium is used to make "Shape memory alloys", notably nitinol (nickel-titanium). You can use nitinol wire to make walking robots, with the nitinol used as the musculature. It it used in pigments and is what makes white toothpaste white (TiO2). In fact, this is its major use. Plus, it's shiny. :)
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then do the immediate apparant thing to do and download newer display drivers that aren't buggy...
er... like the ones that came on the Windows 2000 CD? Because those are the ones I'm using.
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Oh, that's just silly. And, if you want to make it an example of "capitalism in action," include the part about their customers getting pissed, and refusing to upgrade and/or switching to other distros or even other OSes. It's pretty silly to take one specific bad thing and attribute it to a system-wide socioeconomic fault.
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I recently upgraded to 7.0 from 6.2. What a disaster. I spent a weekend patching it, and then finally backed up my data in reinstalled 7.0 from scratch. I was then greeted by a total inability to compile 2.2.17 with the gcc in RH 7 (2.96). I submitted a bug report ("compiler screwed in 7.0") and was told that it's not a bug, that I should use kgcc to compile kernels. Of course, this wasn't documented anywhere, and in spite of the fact that I chose "kernel development" in the installer, it did not install kgcc. I had to go get the CDs and install it. When I ran kgcc -v, i saw that it was gcc (egcs) 2.91.66, which is a working compiler. So i symlinked cc and gcc to kgcc and everything seems to be fine. I asked on the same bug why they ship a broken compiler and require manual isntallation of a working one in RH7. I was told that it's the kernel's fault, read the LKML. I think my question is still valid -- why did they ship with a broken compiler? Granted, the kernel has special facilities in their makefiles for using kgcc rather than gcc, but that doesn't solve the problem for kernel modules compiled outside the kernel tree. And I still had to hand-edit the source for the Universal Tun Driver to get it to compile right on RH7, even using "kgcc".
What's the big advantage of 2.96? I haven't seen it yet, so if someone could please explain it to me...
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> Not allowed to.
Huh? Learn how to join the kernel mailing list
Been there. Done that. All of the decisions are actually made off-list. The list is a decoy.
> And then ignore your patches.
Hmmm, maybe that says something about the quality of your coding... (i.e. it sucks ass)
And who are you, exactly? Some expert in ass-sucking? Getting patches and ideas rejected by The Posse (Viro, Cox, Tso, Molnar, etc) doesn't mean they're bad. To date, it's meant that they tickle an ideological allergy to things not posix. For instance, even though Linus stated he wanted a clean way to suppor streams in Linux, in order to support existing filesystems, The Posse wouldn't let it happen, and even went out of their way to stifle the debate. Ask Cox about his kill file sometime. He won't even include fixes to printk to provide 64-bit support (in spite of the fact that linux is supposed to run on 64-bit machines, like UltraSparcs).
Just because they're the current in-crowd dosn't make them right. For instance, Linus refuses to let a kernel debugger be included in Linux. He, and a number of morons on the kernel list, say that printk is all you need to debug the kernel. Yeah, okay. But then support for printing 64 bit numbers in printk is rejected, meaning that it's actually impossible to debug 64-but data structures with the recommended method, printk. It's all sort of silly. I can't wait to see 2.4.0-pooch-screw-37.
I can understand that Linux doesn't have a design, that's it's evolved as it's coded. But it could at least have a philosophy. Currently (2.4.x) it just has problems, and the Mindcraft benchmarks to refer to.
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http://www.flyingbuttmonkeys.com was a 250MHz AMD k6-2 with 32MB of ram and a 4GB IDE hard drive during the past month when it's been repeatedly slashdotted. Twice, it served over 120000 hits an hour, at an average packet rate of more than 1000/sec, without a problem. Lately it got unreliable because of a failing network card, but that's not exactly Apache's fault. 100k hits a day, right. If the slashdotting had been in effect for the whole day, my little Linuxbox would have taken and served 2.88 million hits that day. the load stayed around 0.20. Imaging what a machine with some actual memory and CPU could do!
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If you think that the 2.4 kernel is 'long overdue' then why don't you volunteer and help out the effort?
Not allowed to.
They get to tell you to fix your problem yourself.
And then ignore your patches.
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Yeah, they'll add it by "accident" like with JFFS.
Hi, we're happy to announce the release of kernel 2.4.0-pooch-screw, wherein we screwed up the VM and VFS again, and occasionally even Ext2 gets scragged, but we tossed in another journaling filesystem.
Perhaps these guys are smoking cherry-flavored crack. What's the kernel list have to say about this? Viro? Care to chime in? so they're working with "the community" to get it included, in spite of the fact that the thrid feature freeze is on?
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