"No, MS aren't stupid." [...] "Never ascribe to malice what can be explained by stupidity." OK, I am confused.
Yeah, that was contradictory. I meant that they didn't decide/plot to do it, where "they" is someone like Ballmer, because anyone thinking about it would realise that it would rebound. But it could well have happened by some mistake by a flunky, or an automated process designed to block warez, defined carelessly enough to block any "free" software.
Frankly, the idea that this could be accidental in the first place is ludicrous.
No, MS aren't stupid. They would know such a block could not stand for long and would generate much bad publicity for them. They'd much rather just ignore the FSF. Now they'll probably have to apologise to them. Never ascribe to malice what can be explained by stupidity.
More likely the FSF home page, with all of its talk about "free software" was classified by MS's filters as a warez site.
Fatal accidents are not illegal, and are more likely to be reported by people not facing a economic death penalty
So you really do think that reporting an road death should make you free of responsibility? Also your continued invocation of "economic death penalty" to excuse running away from killing someone, or setting a potentially lethal fire, shows a completely sociopathic mindset. Do you work on Wall Street?
LOL talk about an inappropriate technical solution to a social problem. You've got people right there, right on site where the fire started, right at the moment smoke rose up. Hmm maybe if we could somehow make it possible for them to use their cell phone without turning themselves into economic kamikaze. Naah we'll just launch another satellite instead.
The satellites are already there. The firebugs who started the fire can't be depended on to report it. Lots of fires are deliberately set by people who just like to watch them. Other fires catch after the idiots who left a campfire smouldering have long gone.
More fires are started by firefighters doing controlled burns that get out of control than target shooters.
In that case there is a risk (of starting a wildfire)/benefit (preventing fires). There is no benefit to allowing gun nuts to shoot at junk in the countryside and start fires.
With your ridiculous requirement, the shooters would be insane to economically kill themselves, so once a tiny little fire starts, rather than stomping it out themselves and calling the local fire department to water down the area, they run like hell. Obviously they'll get away every time. However 100% of tiny little grass fires will uncontrollably spread and sweep thru town killing everyone and destroying everything.
By your logic, we should make hit-and-run road "accidents" that result in death legal too, so the perpetrators are more likely to report them.
Fuck them. They started a fire, they have a responsibility to stop it. And they aren't guaranteed to get away even if they decide to be assholes. Their shells could identify them.
Anyway, whatever happened to satellite surveillance? Surely a grass fire is pretty easy to pick up on infra red? How many thousand surveillance/weather whatever satellites does the US have? Use them to save some lives.
If there was no law against (target-)shooting in the area in which the shooters were, how do you suggest they be prevented from having done something that caused an accidental fire?
The problem is the "no law against" part. The government is too afraid of the NRA to suggest any laws that might offend them. As they take the same attitude when people are murdered by gun users it's entirely consistent.
Any home owners, and/or their insurance companies, affected by such fires should start a class action and sue both the state government and the NRA for creating this entirely predictable hazard. The actual idiots who started the fires should be given some frontier justice, in line with their philosophy. String them up on the nearest tree.
"3 reverts" in 24 hours is a violation of rules.
Normally one or both editors report the other one and they seek arbitration. The problem is that most disputes are incredibly trivial and it's hard to find a qualified neutral arbitrator who has the time to deal with a couple or more editors who are passionate and pigheadedly sure they are correct.
Have you looked at the ingredients for "healthy pure fruit juice" from the majority of vendors out there? There's just as much HFCS as a soda. You have maybe 2 brands that don't use it, and they are not available in all locations.
Artificially flavoured sugar water is cheaper to make than fruit juice, and if manufacturers are allowed to lie about what they put in bottles, ans call it "fruit juice", they will just sell you that instead. Hopefully one consequence of such a law would be that healthy drinks (at at least, healthier drinks) would be more competitive and thus be more available.
Fans will certainly be interested to see what happens, but "rejoice? Maybe it will turn out to be the next Blade Runner, but the most likely outcomes are 1) it stays in development hell or 2) is changed beyond recognition and dumbed down into a generic (3D!) action movie.
Yeah, distinguishing things designed to kill from other objects is "arbitrary". And if you can kill someone with a wet noodle, as you gun nuts claim, why do you want all your guns? Let alone fucking machine guns.
It should, perhaps, be noted that in 1999, California decided to confiscate some firearms that were previously legal.
"previously" legal = not legal. Some kind of assault rifle, it seems. There's no shortage of pistols, hunting rifles, shotguns, etc, etc in California is there?
You NRA nutters think you can have any war weapon on your bed table.
In a democracy, the response to a law you don't like is to vote for someone who will repeal it. Not to stockpile machine guns and ammo.
Sure makes it easier to confiscate the guns if the govt want to....
The kind of person who believes the black helicopters are coming for his guns is the kind of person I am not happy about having a basement full of firearms. You need psychiatric care, not more guns.
If he hadn't reported them stolen, he probably would have had a LOT of explaining to do.
Of course he would, and rightly so. Also, the marks might allow owners of stolen guns to get them back, at least if they weren't used in a crime and being held as evidence.
.co? So he's a Colombian. Investing his coke money, no doubt.
It's been really annoying how people like this pretend some cctld , like.co, means something completely different than the country it actually refers to..tv is Tuvalu, not "television",.md is Moldova, not "doctor", etc.
"No, MS aren't stupid." [...] "Never ascribe to malice what can be explained by stupidity." OK, I am confused.
Yeah, that was contradictory. I meant that they didn't decide/plot to do it, where "they" is someone like Ballmer, because anyone thinking about it would realise that it would rebound. But it could well have happened by some mistake by a flunky, or an automated process designed to block warez, defined carelessly enough to block any "free" software.
Frankly, the idea that this could be accidental in the first place is ludicrous.
No, MS aren't stupid. They would know such a block could not stand for long and would generate much bad publicity for them. They'd much rather just ignore the FSF. Now they'll probably have to apologise to them. Never ascribe to malice what can be explained by stupidity.
More likely the FSF home page, with all of its talk about "free software" was classified by MS's filters as a warez site.
Fatal accidents are not illegal, and are more likely to be reported by people not facing a economic death penalty
So you really do think that reporting an road death should make you free of responsibility? Also your continued invocation of "economic death penalty" to excuse running away from killing someone, or setting a potentially lethal fire, shows a completely sociopathic mindset. Do you work on Wall Street?
LOL talk about an inappropriate technical solution to a social problem. You've got people right there, right on site where the fire started, right at the moment smoke rose up. Hmm maybe if we could somehow make it possible for them to use their cell phone without turning themselves into economic kamikaze. Naah we'll just launch another satellite instead.
The satellites are already there. The firebugs who started the fire can't be depended on to report it. Lots of fires are deliberately set by people who just like to watch them. Other fires catch after the idiots who left a campfire smouldering have long gone.
More fires are started by firefighters doing controlled burns that get out of control than target shooters.
In that case there is a risk (of starting a wildfire) /benefit (preventing fires). There is no benefit to allowing gun nuts to shoot at junk in the countryside and start fires.
Perhaps you wish to hang the firefighters?
Perhaps you are a fuckwit?
With your ridiculous requirement, the shooters would be insane to economically kill themselves, so once a tiny little fire starts, rather than stomping it out themselves and calling the local fire department to water down the area, they run like hell. Obviously they'll get away every time. However 100% of tiny little grass fires will uncontrollably spread and sweep thru town killing everyone and destroying everything.
By your logic, we should make hit-and-run road "accidents" that result in death legal too, so the perpetrators are more likely to report them.
Fuck them. They started a fire, they have a responsibility to stop it. And they aren't guaranteed to get away even if they decide to be assholes. Their shells could identify them.
Anyway, whatever happened to satellite surveillance? Surely a grass fire is pretty easy to pick up on infra red? How many thousand surveillance /weather whatever satellites does the US have? Use them to save some lives.
If there was no law against (target-)shooting in the area in which the shooters were, how do you suggest they be prevented from having done something that caused an accidental fire?
The problem is the "no law against" part. The government is too afraid of the NRA to suggest any laws that might offend them. As they take the same attitude when people are murdered by gun users it's entirely consistent.
Any home owners, and/or their insurance companies, affected by such fires should start a class action and sue both the state government and the NRA for creating this entirely predictable hazard. The actual idiots who started the fires should be given some frontier justice, in line with their philosophy. String them up on the nearest tree.
See Wikipedia:Lamest edit wars
Wikipedia was one of the last places to report that Michael Jackson had died "Last"? By how long? A few hours maybe.
Wikipedia isn't a breaking news site, its an encyclopedia.
If you want news, go to Wikinews.
"X has died" is one of the most common form of vandalism. It has to be verified. Better to wait a few hours and be sure.
It's pretty clear that the US government doesn't care about that. "US interests" is defined by the government.
The UN has no power if a nation decides to ignore it.
UN Takeover of Internet Must Be Stopped, US Warns
Posted by samzenpus on Fri Jun 01, '12 12:30 PM
samzenpus dupes himself with another run at this xenophobic scare piece.
Have you looked at the ingredients for "healthy pure fruit juice" from the majority of vendors out there? There's just as much HFCS as a soda. You have maybe 2 brands that don't use it, and they are not available in all locations.
Artificially flavoured sugar water is cheaper to make than fruit juice, and if manufacturers are allowed to lie about what they put in bottles, ans call it "fruit juice", they will just sell you that instead. Hopefully one consequence of such a law would be that healthy drinks (at at least, healthier drinks) would be more competitive and thus be more available.
Okay ... . Now you've peaked my curiosity.
Why, exactly, did you feel the need to explain to world+dog that film noire translated as black film?
Well, at least he didn't confuse peak and pique.
Cocaine was in The Seven-Per-Cent Solution. And alluded to a few times in the recent BBC Sherlock.
Fans will certainly be interested to see what happens, but "rejoice? Maybe it will turn out to be the next Blade Runner, but the most likely outcomes are 1) it stays in development hell or 2) is changed beyond recognition and dumbed down into a generic (3D!) action movie.
So, this the the fantasy you masturbate over while "polishing your guns".
what are the functional differences between what you're calling an assault rifle and any other semi-automatic rifle?
I don't distinguish them. They should both be illegal for anyone except military and SWAT. But in the USA, any lunatic can have one.
Fine, don't tell the cops if your gun gets stolen. If it's used in a crime, you can deal with it then. Up to you.
Yeah, distinguishing things designed to kill from other objects is "arbitrary". And if you can kill someone with a wet noodle, as you gun nuts claim, why do you want all your guns? Let alone fucking machine guns.
It should, perhaps, be noted that in 1999, California decided to confiscate some firearms that were previously legal.
"previously" legal = not legal. Some kind of assault rifle, it seems. There's no shortage of pistols, hunting rifles, shotguns, etc, etc in California is there?
You NRA nutters think you can have any war weapon on your bed table.
In a democracy, the response to a law you don't like is to vote for someone who will repeal it. Not to stockpile machine guns and ammo.
The owner of a gun has a a responsibility to keep it safe. Moral and legal.. Your examples are idiotic, and you know it.
Sure makes it easier to confiscate the guns if the govt want to....
The kind of person who believes the black helicopters are coming for his guns is the kind of person I am not happy about having a basement full of firearms. You need psychiatric care, not more guns.
When I was at school the only computer I ever saw was a HP calculator. I wrote a program to find prime numbers in its 50-step memory.
If he hadn't reported them stolen, he probably would have had a LOT of explaining to do.
Of course he would, and rightly so. Also, the marks might allow owners of stolen guns to get them back, at least if they weren't used in a crime and being held as evidence.
Or you go to the website of the email address: http://donuts.co/
.co? So he's a Colombian. Investing his coke money, no doubt.
It's been really annoying how people like this pretend some cctld , like .co, means something completely different than the country it actually refers to. .tv is Tuvalu, not "television", .md is Moldova, not "doctor", etc.