I didn't think I'd have to explain this in more detail and thought you guys could fill in the gaps yourselves:(
The words "throw stuff in the air" instead of "accelerated to very high velocities with huge rockets" for a reason and I was hoping you all had the reading comprension skills to tell the difference.
Oh, you didn't mean using a spring catapult? How could I have been so stupid.
Also the "just connects" is the difficult engineering feat the earlier poster was speculating about instead of just waving it away as something for those greasy Moorlocks to work out and below the notice of the Eloi.
Since you're replying to my post, you must be talking about me. But I never said or implied anything of the kind. I must conclude that it's you that has the reading comprehension problem.
It makes a lot more sense with the word "sails" in place then it does after it's been removed.
Well, take that up with the Slashdot "editor" who removed it, while not noticing the glaring error of 96 instead of 96000 km. But I thought my version made more sense. I was trying to clarify the concept, not faithfully reproduce the submission, which anyone could see by clicking on the link anyway.
These stories bring out a lot of clowns that think you can just throw stuff in the air and it won't come down, and reader, if you don't want to be seen as one of those clowns I suggest you look at the wikipedia page on these beanstalks then read and understand the very simple maths and physics before posting
Actually, you can "you can just throw stuff in the air and it won't come down". That's what an "orbit" is. The beanstalk just connects the ground to the 24 hour orbit at 36000 km. The concept is simple and correct. The problem is making the beanstalk strong and light enough.
Grow trees using power of the sun. Sun dries out broken sticks and kindling. Rub stick on piece of wood with bow. When you get a glow- blow on it and light kindling. Cook food over resulting fire. Roast marshmallows- drink beer; get guitar (or sitar) out- everyone starts to sing Eagles songs.
Everyone is happy and goes to bed smelling like campfire smoke. Is there anything better?
That's what they're doing now.
And causing deforestation in the process.
It's also pretty labour intensive to walk for hours to the forest, cut and collect wood, carry it back to the village.
Despicable that Slashdot cites some right wing blog that just quotes slabs from the original newspaper story. Why the fuck do the Slashdot editors let Slashdot be used to promote some blog that just plagiarises stories?
Sounds more like the fictional liquid bomb that never could have worked outside a laboratory and has caused millions of people to waste millions of hours at airports ever since.
And in this case, millions of people are downloading millions of MP3s every day and never a "WTF". Except when they get Rickrolled.
The music system in some vehicles is tied into the same CAN-bus with everything else so that it can get signals from the same steering wheel that has the cruise controls on it and which is listened to by the TCM. There's basically no security on this bus.
You've been reading too much Neuromancer. Has this ever happened? No. If it were possible, some asshole would have done it by now.
Bollocks. Name a real world exploit, not something that you have to install a bunch of obsolete software to make it even possible. And then point out any time it actually happened in the wild.
For automotive entertainment systems which generally run without a security context and which may not even have meaningful memory protection, it is doubly a problem.
Again bollocks. Who cares if your MP3 player crashed? Reboot it. You're not seriously saying that the music system in a car could affect anything else? Again, cite a real example, not a what-if.
Google updated their search terms slightly recently; you need to put a word in quotes to explicitly match. So "bubble" should do what +bubble used to do.
Thanks! I was getting so annoyed with Google second guessing me and giving me 10,000 irrelevant hits for something that was one letter off from what I was actually looking for. I don't mind it suggesting "Did you mean..." but when it just assumed I'd made a mistake in my actual search terms and gave me something else, I ended up going to Bing a few times, something I swore I'd never do.
Do Wikipedia and Amazon really have that steep a learning curve?
Did you not understand that by introducing these with "say" I meant they were simply examples? Once I get to a site (via Google) I may indeed use their own search if it seems likely. Often it's not necessary, so I don't have to bother.
I think this is a major factor - people know where to find information now without having to ask Google. They know about Amazon, they know about Wikipedia, they know about their favorite news sites.
Google has its use, but people aren't having to use Google to find everything the way they used to.
Well, I do. Rather than wrestle with learning where and how each site's search works, I just Google for what I want, plus, say "wiki" if I want the Wikipedia page, "amazon" for the Amazon page, (Rotten) "tomatoes" for move reviews, etc, etc. The hit on the desired site is always at or near the top.
Here is a post a few spots up that completely negates your statement:
Richard Lindzen. Wasn't he the guy who was recently debunked and had his papers withdrawn from publication because he was being paid for his position?
The second a scientist takes on penny from an oil company, even after his work is published, he's instantly discredited, regardless of the quality or accuracy of his work. Yet, it is perfectly acceptable for a scientist to take money in the form of a grant from a government that stands to gain power over citizens.
Rubbish. Lindzen didn't have his livelihood threatened, that's what the poster I was responding to insinuated. Being criticised is another thing entirely. Lindzen has had a long comfortable career. He didn't suffer for his opinions.
He was pilloried though for LYING about his funding. See http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Richard_S._Lindzen : "in 2007, Lindzen wrote that "his research has always been funded exclusively by the U.S. government. He receives no funding from any energy companies." Which was untrue.
And, FYI, governments already have " power over citizens". I don't understand where you conspiracy nutjobs get the idea that global warming is a political issue that somehow helps commies. It doesn't help ANYONE. It's going to fuck us all.
. There needs to be a way to publish studies, raw data, and the like, without jeopardizing one's career.
Of course there is. JUST PUBLISH IT. If it's valid, you're famous, the oil companies can quite legitimately shower you with money to continue your research. This continued assertion that there is a conspiracy to prevent dissenting views on global warming is just idiotic. Is Al Gore going to leave a horse's head in your bed?
Is there a word that combines "retarded" with "denialist"? There should be.
The point is that VHS players are still cheap and common, DAT players never took off. Lots more people have VHS players or can get them for peanuts, and they're easy to hook up to a stereo.
Musicians may like them because they're not so convenient to just copy and upload as digital media.
The use of "denier" in this context sounds no different than a religious zealot blindly assuming that whatever is "denied" is in fact true.
No, it indicates the assessment that the "denier" is blocking his ears and shouting la-la-la at anything that contradicts his preconceptions. Same as evolution deniers. I won't Godwin the topic and equate them with Holocaust deniers though.
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I didn't think I'd have to explain this in more detail and thought you guys could fill in the gaps yourselves :(
The words "throw stuff in the air" instead of "accelerated to very high velocities with huge rockets" for a reason and I was hoping you all had the reading comprension skills to tell the difference.
Oh, you didn't mean using a spring catapult? How could I have been so stupid.
Also the "just connects" is the difficult engineering feat the earlier poster was speculating about instead of just waving it away as something for those greasy Moorlocks to work out and below the notice of the Eloi.
Since you're replying to my post, you must be talking about me. But I never said or implied anything of the kind. I must conclude that it's you that has the reading comprehension problem.
It makes a lot more sense with the word "sails" in place then it does after it's been removed.
Well, take that up with the Slashdot "editor" who removed it, while not noticing the glaring error of 96 instead of 96000 km. But I thought my version made more sense. I was trying to clarify the concept, not faithfully reproduce the submission, which anyone could see by clicking on the link anyway.
It was supposed to be "sails along". Sorry.
While the submission said that, as it didn't make sense either (without adding several other words), I changed it.
I'm saying you're vastly oversimplifying the problem.
I said it was a "problem", didn't I? I didn't say or imply that it was "simple".
Yes, just like the problem with getting to other stars is "going fast enough".
Your point being?
No, you. The 96km is a mistake in the summary. The number in the article is 96,000km.
Which you knew by READING THE FUCKING ARTICLE as I recommended.
RTFA
These stories bring out a lot of clowns that think you can just throw stuff in the air and it won't come down, and reader, if you don't want to be seen as one of those clowns I suggest you look at the wikipedia page on these beanstalks then read and understand the very simple maths and physics before posting
Actually, you can "you can just throw stuff in the air and it won't come down". That's what an "orbit" is. The beanstalk just connects the ground to the 24 hour orbit at 36000 km. The concept is simple and correct. The problem is making the beanstalk strong and light enough.
WTF does that last sentence even mean?
It means read TFA rather than the gibberish that the submitter, and Slashdot "editors" turn out. You'll find out, for instance, that:
"while the counterweight along 96 km high, a quarter of the way to the Moon"
should read:
"while the counterweight extends 96,000 km higher, a quarter of the way to the Moon"
In this case, it looks like they were auditing physical security amongst other things. "Looks like"?
If you'd bothered to read the fucking article instead of racing to make a first post, you'd know that was exactly what it was about.
Grow trees using power of the sun. Sun dries out broken sticks and kindling. Rub stick on piece of wood with bow. When you get a glow- blow on it and light kindling. Cook food over resulting fire. Roast marshmallows- drink beer; get guitar (or sitar) out- everyone starts to sing Eagles songs. Everyone is happy and goes to bed smelling like campfire smoke. Is there anything better?
That's what they're doing now. And causing deforestation in the process. It's also pretty labour intensive to walk for hours to the forest, cut and collect wood, carry it back to the village.
What are the short comings of HTML for this then?
Kindle and ePub are HTML + images + index files, compressed into a single file.
The real story is at Carolina Journal
And I can't see how this storm is a teacup is news for anyone, let alone "News for nerds".
Today's what-ifs are tomorrow's WTFs.
Sounds more like the fictional liquid bomb that never could have worked outside a laboratory and has caused millions of people to waste millions of hours at airports ever since.
And in this case, millions of people are downloading millions of MP3s every day and never a "WTF". Except when they get Rickrolled.
The music system in some vehicles is tied into the same CAN-bus with everything else so that it can get signals from the same steering wheel that has the cruise controls on it and which is listened to by the TCM. There's basically no security on this bus.
You've been reading too much Neuromancer. Has this ever happened? No. If it were possible, some asshole would have done it by now.
It's called a buffer overflow
Bollocks. Name a real world exploit, not something that you have to install a bunch of obsolete software to make it even possible. And then point out any time it actually happened in the wild.
For automotive entertainment systems which generally run without a security context and which may not even have meaningful memory protection, it is doubly a problem.
Again bollocks. Who cares if your MP3 player crashed? Reboot it. You're not seriously saying that the music system in a car could affect anything else? Again, cite a real example, not a what-if.
IF you exclude the risk of being infected up the wazoo.
From a bunch of MP3 files? How, pray tell, does that work?
In a discussion about Sony, who DID work out a way to infect computers using an "audio CD" that actually included a root kit, that's pretty ironic.
Google updated their search terms slightly recently; you need to put a word in quotes to explicitly match. So "bubble" should do what +bubble used to do.
Thanks! I was getting so annoyed with Google second guessing me and giving me 10,000 irrelevant hits for something that was one letter off from what I was actually looking for. I don't mind it suggesting "Did you mean ..." but when it just assumed I'd made a mistake in my actual search terms and gave me something else, I ended up going to Bing a few times, something I swore I'd never do.
Do Wikipedia and Amazon really have that steep a learning curve?
Did you not understand that by introducing these with "say" I meant they were simply examples? Once I get to a site (via Google) I may indeed use their own search if it seems likely. Often it's not necessary, so I don't have to bother.
And as it happens I just looked up the major funding source for Sourcewatch, and lo and behold it's George Soros.
A Jewish banker. Now it's all clear.
Draw your own conclusions.
Well, it certainly confirms that you're an idiot.
I think this is a major factor - people know where to find information now without having to ask Google. They know about Amazon, they know about Wikipedia, they know about their favorite news sites. Google has its use, but people aren't having to use Google to find everything the way they used to.
Well, I do. Rather than wrestle with learning where and how each site's search works, I just Google for what I want, plus, say "wiki" if I want the Wikipedia page, "amazon" for the Amazon page, (Rotten) "tomatoes" for move reviews, etc, etc. The hit on the desired site is always at or near the top.
Here is a post a few spots up that completely negates your statement:
Richard Lindzen. Wasn't he the guy who was recently debunked and had his papers withdrawn from publication because he was being paid for his position?
The second a scientist takes on penny from an oil company, even after his work is published, he's instantly discredited, regardless of the quality or accuracy of his work. Yet, it is perfectly acceptable for a scientist to take money in the form of a grant from a government that stands to gain power over citizens.
Rubbish. Lindzen didn't have his livelihood threatened, that's what the poster I was responding to insinuated. Being criticised is another thing entirely. Lindzen has had a long comfortable career. He didn't suffer for his opinions.
He was pilloried though for LYING about his funding. See http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Richard_S._Lindzen : "in 2007, Lindzen wrote that "his research has always been funded exclusively by the U.S. government. He receives no funding from any energy companies." Which was untrue.
And, FYI, governments already have " power over citizens". I don't understand where you conspiracy nutjobs get the idea that global warming is a political issue that somehow helps commies. It doesn't help ANYONE. It's going to fuck us all.
. There needs to be a way to publish studies, raw data, and the like, without jeopardizing one's career.
Of course there is. JUST PUBLISH IT. If it's valid, you're famous, the oil companies can quite legitimately shower you with money to continue your research. This continued assertion that there is a conspiracy to prevent dissenting views on global warming is just idiotic. Is Al Gore going to leave a horse's head in your bed?
Is there a word that combines "retarded" with "denialist"? There should be.
Okay, so the submitter wasn't quite as ignorant as I thought; didn't make the error, but didn't notice it either.
Musicians may like them because they're not so convenient to just copy and upload as digital media.
The use of "denier" in this context sounds no different than a religious zealot blindly assuming that whatever is "denied" is in fact true.
No, it indicates the assessment that the "denier" is blocking his ears and shouting la-la-la at anything that contradicts his preconceptions. Same as evolution deniers. I won't Godwin the topic and equate them with Holocaust deniers though.