Naming problems might not be solved this way? How does your shell tell the difference between:
/usr/bin/1/name
and
/usr/bin/2/name
Sure, the package manager will put things in the right place. But if both 1 and 2 are in your path, what happens?
Oh well, it's a red herring anyway. These things have never bothered me yet, so I imagine there are well established ways to sort things out. You know, like the utilities that everyone wants to use just going to/bin and programs that don't call them or something in/usr/bin simply calling something in it's own directory tree, while only a link exists in/usr/bin. I might also imagine that the.deb packageing system has conflict resolution and that the package maintainers pay attention to issues like this. If it were not true my Debian would act like M$ junk.
And then you get into naming conflicts down the road.. MS has this problem now
and these applications are the bane of MSCE's everywhere.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, only an MSCE would whine like that, praise M$ by compairison, and not do anything to fix the problem. Does he really prefer the hundreds of undocumented closed source DLLs typically found on M$ platforms? Pttt-th-th-th-pt!
This user has no problem managing the files and links in/usr/bin for his Debian computers. "You have to use a package manager!" he screams. Give me a break.
The only thing you forgot is that it's alrady happening. People already roll their own viruses. Those running OS succpetible, including government agencies, are already under attack.
The most objectionable thing about Carnivore is that I'm paying for it. It sucks to think that I'm paying my government to spy on me. At least that's not what I think of when I see the monthly withholding.
trilucid: who's there?
knocker: FBI
trilucid: go away.
knocker: what's that, house on fire? your computer started it? who cares, we have a warrent for your arrest for treason, deliberate acts against the US government.
oh dear, that's not funny.
our machines and that our machines could be set to display objectionable content
So what do the good people of MA think of zippers?
Well, what do you expect from people who ran off to the wilderness of the new world for religious non conformance? You know, to re-enact the old testament at places like Salem, and so be God's new people?
And you don't see the similarity with the Talliban (translation: teachers)? Pilgrims/Talliban ran off to be with themselves and escape persecution by an evil empire (England/USSR). Against all expectations they find themselves in charge and wish to make the world after themselves. They are accused of intollerance and denying women their rights. No one but their neighbors mind untill they start blowing things up accross the Ocean (Spanish American wars, WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam,.../WTC). No, I'm not equating any real wars to the WTC attrocity, it's just a reference for comparison. US firbombing of German civilians durring WWII represents a real low in morrality, surpassed only by the crimes of her ally of the time, Stalin. This from the "city on a hill".
Posted by a genuine white anglo saxon US citizen. I'm proud of my country and want to stay that way. I'll happily jump up and down on hypocracy and dishonesty all day long. Flame away, bitches, and happy Thanksgiving.
Yes, we can become like them. Reference DeCSS, government proscribed "hate" groups, "voluntary" compliance income tax, and the USA act making all "obtainable" computer records subject to abitrary search. 1+1+1=5, you are a slave.
I've got a book in front of me from EPRI. Half of the front and back cover are a "SINGLE USER LICENSE AGREEMENT". It grants me "the nonexclusive and notrasferable right during the term of this agreement to use this report only for your own benefit and the benefit of your organization." Huh? term of agreement on a book? Mostly it forbids me to do anything with the contents including, "prepare any derivative work based on this report". Oh yes, "Upon any termination you may destroy this report, but all obligations of nondisclosure will remain in effect." It claims to be goverened by the laws of the State of California. Ah yes, land of the free home of the brave. I've never seen anything so greedy and depraved.
Microsoft may have played a large role in setting architecture standards with its operating system...
Before IBM told them to take a powder, few people knew about M$. IBM is the company that set the architecture because IBM is the company that people knew and trusted. The Bill Gates influence on that company was nothing but negative, but he leveraged his association with them to grow. Ashes to ashes, dust to dust, M$ will return from where they came as IBM focuses on being a computer and equipment maker.
When was code reuse bad?
People mix languages out of necessity for accomodating legacy code.
People reuse legacy code because it's easier than starting from scratch. When it's not, code reuse is bad.
The small amount of experience I have had integrating Perl and C clearly indicates that debugging large apps written in multiple languges is extremely difficult - forget about your IDE or traditional single debugger.
Time to get some more experience. Oh, it hurts it hurts! Make it work for you.
How about performance? Integrating multiple languages means invoking multiple runtimes and address spaces.
Performance is as performance does. Using more than a single variable invokes more than one address space. So what?
Or do you post long winded pro M$ rants for fun? I mean, who would write posts praising MSIE only extensions? Defending the slowness of XP? Or saying that M$ junk is all most people want or need? Give me a break. If you are going to troll, you need to space your offensive comments out over time so they don't show you up.
Having said all of that, yeah, they're being overly monopolistic, and yes, this is a rediculously small punishment for what they've been caught doing.
"Overly monopolistic"? I'm sorry, you might just be stupid.
Your analysis is excellent. This will cost M$ next to nothing, the press will shower ignorant praises on them, and they will try to brainwash yet another generation of people to think computer = M$. I'd have been happier if they would just give back the money extorted from the schools in the first place, but let's try to think of how we can embrace and extend this.
The dummys will probably put in new hardware running XP. We can imagine that it would be cheapest for them to bully their vendors to take a tax break by dumping old corporate PCs and junk they can't sell. It's not like they can afford to send in thousands of $75/hr techs to struggle making new M$ junk work on older hardware. They will just use their existing channels of mass distribution.
The answer is to wait a while and be ready to assist. It won't take long for XP's subscription and reporting "services" to be abused by a worm/virus. It might happen before M$ themselves start turning them off remotly for non-payment of XP fees. Then there you have it, a few million dollars worth of broken hardware just waiting for reasonable software. It won't be easy, but the right thing is often hard.
No good publicity ever came from deception and shoddy products. That's why everyone knows M$ is second rate. People are set free one at a time.
Generous M$ wants give gift?
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I read it in articles. Like on salon:
I read it too, it must be true? Who am I going to believe, Salon or my lying eyes? If Tiger Direct can offer equivalent or better systems for $400, this PC in a plastic garbage can has got to at least break even at $300. When has M$ ever lost money on a deal? Never. If people buy this junk, they will make money. Not tomorow, today.
What did you want to do yesterday?
You missed one nasty trend
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The trend to weaken and eliminate tenure at state universities. If the teachers can be removed they will no longer be independent. The politics of funding at uninversities is bad enough as it is. The demise of tenure will be the demise of accademic freedom and as our teachers will have muzzles.
Stalin and Hitler screwed their accademic communities for politics and it nearly ruined them. It can be argued that both geared their artists to propaganda and their science to warfare but failed. Hitler made good weapons for a while, but was unable to develop high altitude long range bombers and nuclear weapons. Stalin had tanks and planes designed from prison. As good as those designs were, they were not as good as US. While some of the failure of Soviet agriculture was intentional, who can say what effect Stalin's wierd insistence on evolution of individuals had?
Will the US be next? The DMCA is only part of the picture. When you can't say what you think, you can't trust anyone and therfore don't know what to believe ever. If you can't trust your teachers because they are afraid of being fired, what do you really know? Such distrust of your neighbor is central to autocatic control. Beware of people who scoff at things "un-official" and recomend central control.
How can anyone say that IIS is good for a client? Constantly rebuilding virus infested desktops is good for no one. While you have to give the poor devil what they ask for, you might try a few predictions so that when things go south you can come in and fix thing right. Good luck.
Security sure is a bitch when you don't have real user accounts.
Re:Wow! I'm underwhelmed.
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But then you wouldn't be able to stick it to Microsoft for subsidizing your box as a loss leader.
Thanks, but that's not the reason I build PCs. I don't make them to stick it to anyone. I don't make them to increase anyone's "market share", whatever that is. I make them for a purpose, and adapt them to others as the need arises. I have no more need for a 700 MHz Celeron than I do for M$ Word.
Re:That metaphor if freedom, LOL
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The metaphor was appropriate for the Steven Barktoo style brochure description of a M$ product:
Now, let me get to the meat of the Xbox.
The Xbox is like a hobbled warhorse. You can see how big, how powerful it is, the sleek, black muscles with the power to crush anything else around it. You can feel its energy, its need to break out and use that power.
But the creators, fearing its power to much, fearing those that rode it might use it for what they wanted instead of what the creators wanted, have attached thick, iron chains to its back legs...
The Xbox is truly one big box. It's made to stand up one way - with it's bottom on the surface.
...the hard, black plastic on the outside, and even the wires. The RCA plugs are thick and meaty, and the ends are covered in thick, black plastic...
...It's also brutally simple...
A big black thing that can't get it up. Black (8 uses), meat, power, Oh my! The chains hint at other pervosities that should be left uspoken.
What makes you think M$ is taking a loss on this mighty gimped Celery?
Wow! I'm underwhelmed.
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And for $400 you could build a 900 MHz Athlon. $100 for mobo and slot A processor, $25 for 256M RAM, $100 for HD, $10 for ethernet, $50 for case. You could spend the rest on nice video and sound or be cheap and limit yourself to a $300 budget. Get yourself a Debian install and put what you want on it. Look ma! a general purpose computer. Why torture yourself to figure out M$ hardware?
M$ has convinced many hardware makers that M$'s method of code breaking and bloat are the only way to drive new hardware sales. "No one who could afford a computer would ever replace it if it just worked.", they can say, "We will make your durable product a consumable".
Recent events proves the lie. The current downturn in computer sales is in large part due to distrust of M$. The average user has had their computer break multiple times, for no apparent reason, 2000 breaks 98, 98 breaks 95, 95 breaks 3.1. Each new "upgrade" brought little in terms of new features or speed. Is it any wonder that people burnt so many times would hesitate to buy things? So, how are XP sales going? I'll bet they are even worse than 2000, ME and the rest.
Honest software is the only way out for hardware makers. People will buy things that work better and do new stuff.
Data warehousing might be what saves us in the future from this sort of insanity. Yes, it would have to have significant funding to work,
Excellent! We can get together to solve this problem. We can build proper repositories of information so that all people can read and learn. The place must be large and well airconditioned to preserve the things put there. It's called a library. If we really get enough public support we can make a University so that people can be guided in their learning, organize the materials stored in the library and create new content for the library.
Computers and technology are not going to save you. The government has ordered the burning of books. The USA act gave the federal government access to any and all databases, so you can't hide there. While it is possible to set up distributed encrypted libraries, the network itself is not under your control.
The only defense is to point out the folly. Hiding "Evil" information will insure that only evil people have it when it's needed. This will not make the world any safer, it will make it dumber.
Correct, cable tv is not advert free. Next time I'll put in the sarcasm tag. I use the word advert for it's similarity to pervert and invert. The real words share the same roots.
It's not that much different from radio, exept that it tracks your position and your responsiveness to adverts. Soon however, we can imagine that it will take a license to run such services so that the federal government can collect $500,000 per year from those running this new "information service" in each city. Count on only a few privalidged people, and Uncle Sam thanks to the Patriot Act, knowing where you go. So you see, the future is the past but better. Have a nice day.
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Get em drunk and set them loose. Poor little things. They are going to have a hell of a hangover when they are finished with all that dirty work.
/usr/bin/1/name
and
/usr/bin/2/name
Sure, the package manager will put things in the right place. But if both 1 and 2 are in your path, what happens?
Oh well, it's a red herring anyway. These things have never bothered me yet, so I imagine there are well established ways to sort things out. You know, like the utilities that everyone wants to use just going to /bin and programs that don't call them or something in /usr/bin simply calling something in it's own directory tree, while only a link exists in /usr/bin. I might also imagine that the .deb packageing system has conflict resolution and that the package maintainers pay attention to issues like this. If it were not true my Debian would act like M$ junk.
And then you get into naming conflicts down the road.. MS has this problem now
We are not going where they did.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, only an MSCE would whine like that, praise M$ by compairison, and not do anything to fix the problem. Does he really prefer the hundreds of undocumented closed source DLLs typically found on M$ platforms? Pttt-th-th-th-pt!
This user has no problem managing the files and links in /usr/bin for his Debian computers. "You have to use a package manager!" he screams. Give me a break.
The most objectionable thing about Carnivore is that I'm paying for it. It sucks to think that I'm paying my government to spy on me. At least that's not what I think of when I see the monthly withholding.
trilucid: who's there?
knocker: FBI
trilucid: go away.
knocker: what's that, house on fire? your computer started it? who cares, we have a warrent for your arrest for treason, deliberate acts against the US government.
oh dear, that's not funny.
So what do the good people of MA think of zippers?
Well, what do you expect from people who ran off to the wilderness of the new world for religious non conformance? You know, to re-enact the old testament at places like Salem, and so be God's new people?
And you don't see the similarity with the Talliban (translation: teachers)? Pilgrims/Talliban ran off to be with themselves and escape persecution by an evil empire (England/USSR). Against all expectations they find themselves in charge and wish to make the world after themselves. They are accused of intollerance and denying women their rights. No one but their neighbors mind untill they start blowing things up accross the Ocean (Spanish American wars, WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, .../WTC). No, I'm not equating any real wars to the WTC attrocity, it's just a reference for comparison. US firbombing of German civilians durring WWII represents a real low in morrality, surpassed only by the crimes of her ally of the time, Stalin. This from the "city on a hill".
Posted by a genuine white anglo saxon US citizen. I'm proud of my country and want to stay that way. I'll happily jump up and down on hypocracy and dishonesty all day long. Flame away, bitches, and happy Thanksgiving.
The price of liberty is endless vigalence. Sure, I'm awake and screaming at the top of my lungs.
Yes, we can become like them. Reference DeCSS, government proscribed "hate" groups, "voluntary" compliance income tax, and the USA act making all "obtainable" computer records subject to abitrary search. 1+1+1=5, you are a slave.
I've got a book in front of me from EPRI. Half of the front and back cover are a "SINGLE USER LICENSE AGREEMENT". It grants me "the nonexclusive and notrasferable right during the term of this agreement to use this report only for your own benefit and the benefit of your organization." Huh? term of agreement on a book? Mostly it forbids me to do anything with the contents including, "prepare any derivative work based on this report". Oh yes, "Upon any termination you may destroy this report, but all obligations of nondisclosure will remain in effect." It claims to be goverened by the laws of the State of California. Ah yes, land of the free home of the brave. I've never seen anything so greedy and depraved.
Sure they are on a payroll, that's part of the job description for "editor". I'll bet that trolling MSDN is not part of the VA editor job description.
Before IBM told them to take a powder, few people knew about M$. IBM is the company that set the architecture because IBM is the company that people knew and trusted. The Bill Gates influence on that company was nothing but negative, but he leveraged his association with them to grow. Ashes to ashes, dust to dust, M$ will return from where they came as IBM focuses on being a computer and equipment maker.
As you can never construct the truth from untrusted sources and trying is a waste of effort, let me point you to some useful sites:
Bill Gates Howto
Bill Gates wealth
Prediction of M$ hardware "openness"
People reuse legacy code because it's easier than starting from scratch. When it's not, code reuse is bad.
The small amount of experience I have had integrating Perl and C clearly indicates that debugging large apps written in multiple languges is extremely difficult - forget about your IDE or traditional single debugger.
Time to get some more experience. Oh, it hurts it hurts! Make it work for you.
How about performance? Integrating multiple languages means invoking multiple runtimes and address spaces.
Performance is as performance does. Using more than a single variable invokes more than one address space. So what?
"Overly monopolistic"? I'm sorry, you might just be stupid.
People may be set free in mass! Thank you Red Hat.
You can call it differntial pricing, but when a monopoly is involved it's DUMPING.
The dummys will probably put in new hardware running XP. We can imagine that it would be cheapest for them to bully their vendors to take a tax break by dumping old corporate PCs and junk they can't sell. It's not like they can afford to send in thousands of $75/hr techs to struggle making new M$ junk work on older hardware. They will just use their existing channels of mass distribution.
The answer is to wait a while and be ready to assist. It won't take long for XP's subscription and reporting "services" to be abused by a worm/virus. It might happen before M$ themselves start turning them off remotly for non-payment of XP fees. Then there you have it, a few million dollars worth of broken hardware just waiting for reasonable software. It won't be easy, but the right thing is often hard.
No good publicity ever came from deception and shoddy products. That's why everyone knows M$ is second rate. People are set free one at a time.
I read it too, it must be true? Who am I going to believe, Salon or my lying eyes? If Tiger Direct can offer equivalent or better systems for $400, this PC in a plastic garbage can has got to at least break even at $300. When has M$ ever lost money on a deal? Never. If people buy this junk, they will make money. Not tomorow, today.
What did you want to do yesterday?
Stalin and Hitler screwed their accademic communities for politics and it nearly ruined them. It can be argued that both geared their artists to propaganda and their science to warfare but failed. Hitler made good weapons for a while, but was unable to develop high altitude long range bombers and nuclear weapons. Stalin had tanks and planes designed from prison. As good as those designs were, they were not as good as US. While some of the failure of Soviet agriculture was intentional, who can say what effect Stalin's wierd insistence on evolution of individuals had?
Will the US be next? The DMCA is only part of the picture. When you can't say what you think, you can't trust anyone and therfore don't know what to believe ever. If you can't trust your teachers because they are afraid of being fired, what do you really know? Such distrust of your neighbor is central to autocatic control. Beware of people who scoff at things "un-official" and recomend central control.
How can anyone say that IIS is good for a client? Constantly rebuilding virus infested desktops is good for no one. While you have to give the poor devil what they ask for, you might try a few predictions so that when things go south you can come in and fix thing right. Good luck.
Security sure is a bitch when you don't have real user accounts.
Thanks, but that's not the reason I build PCs. I don't make them to stick it to anyone. I don't make them to increase anyone's "market share", whatever that is. I make them for a purpose, and adapt them to others as the need arises. I have no more need for a 700 MHz Celeron than I do for M$ Word.
Now, let me get to the meat of the Xbox.
The Xbox is like a hobbled warhorse. You can see how big, how powerful it is, the sleek, black muscles with the power to crush anything else around it. You can feel its energy, its need to break out and use that power.
But the creators, fearing its power to much, fearing those that rode it might use it for what they wanted instead of what the creators wanted, have attached thick, iron chains to its back legs...
The Xbox is truly one big box. It's made to stand up one way - with it's bottom on the surface.
...the hard, black plastic on the outside, and even the wires. The RCA plugs are thick and meaty, and the ends are covered in thick, black plastic...
...It's also brutally simple...
A big black thing that can't get it up. Black (8 uses), meat, power, Oh my! The chains hint at other pervosities that should be left uspoken.
What makes you think M$ is taking a loss on this mighty gimped Celery?
And for $400 you could build a 900 MHz Athlon. $100 for mobo and slot A processor, $25 for 256M RAM, $100 for HD, $10 for ethernet, $50 for case. You could spend the rest on nice video and sound or be cheap and limit yourself to a $300 budget. Get yourself a Debian install and put what you want on it. Look ma! a general purpose computer. Why torture yourself to figure out M$ hardware?
Recent events proves the lie. The current downturn in computer sales is in large part due to distrust of M$. The average user has had their computer break multiple times, for no apparent reason, 2000 breaks 98, 98 breaks 95, 95 breaks 3.1. Each new "upgrade" brought little in terms of new features or speed. Is it any wonder that people burnt so many times would hesitate to buy things? So, how are XP sales going? I'll bet they are even worse than 2000, ME and the rest.
Honest software is the only way out for hardware makers. People will buy things that work better and do new stuff.
Excellent! We can get together to solve this problem. We can build proper repositories of information so that all people can read and learn. The place must be large and well airconditioned to preserve the things put there. It's called a library. If we really get enough public support we can make a University so that people can be guided in their learning, organize the materials stored in the library and create new content for the library.
Computers and technology are not going to save you. The government has ordered the burning of books. The USA act gave the federal government access to any and all databases, so you can't hide there. While it is possible to set up distributed encrypted libraries, the network itself is not under your control.
The only defense is to point out the folly. Hiding "Evil" information will insure that only evil people have it when it's needed. This will not make the world any safer, it will make it dumber.
Correct, cable tv is not advert free. Next time I'll put in the sarcasm tag. I use the word advert for it's similarity to pervert and invert. The real words share the same roots.
It's not that much different from radio, exept that it tracks your position and your responsiveness to adverts. Soon however, we can imagine that it will take a license to run such services so that the federal government can collect $500,000 per year from those running this new "information service" in each city. Count on only a few privalidged people, and Uncle Sam thanks to the Patriot Act, knowing where you go. So you see, the future is the past but better. Have a nice day.