Ask the same question to the average suicide bomber? Promises of afterlife glory are very persuasive to poor people with nothing else to lose.
I think that is a poor comparison, the former is about someone who dies for a belief (as in his own life), while the latter is someone who is killing for a belief (and taking many other lives with his own).
Funny - I've usually seen it's the geeks who take the trouble to turn on the 'classic' look and feel in Windows and get rid of all the cloying eye-candy. Meanwhile non-technical users just stick with the default.
That's the power of the "default" which is a big deal as well. Most non-technical people don't even realize such options exist or that you do not have to use the default. To be fair though, to Microsoft's credit, often the default is good enough and many don't even care to change it because it will typically allow one to get the job done. Some might say this is NOT the case with some recent changes in Linux desktop environments.
Couldn't agree more. This article would be 2/3rds right if this was 1995. But almost every thing in this article has been corrected for years and years.
I find it odd how people go on and on about how stuff isn't ready for prime time in Linux but I run the bleeding edge of the raw hide branch of Fedora on multiple computers doing different tasks and I never see the kinds of problems these people go on and on about. I run server farms with Redhat and stuff just works. The only time stuff doesn't just work on Linux is when Solaris admins go "Linux is Unix" and then try to run their Linux boxes like they are Solaris and screw them up.
I think it is very possible that with the right hardware someone might have your opinion, and with the wrong hardware someone might have the opinion expressed in the article, which would still imply that problems DO exist.
I am experienced enough to not be affected by many of those issues, but it is very obvious to me that XP seriously outperforms my Fedora.
And as far as I understand, Redhat is Server not Desktop, which is not really the points of the article.
It is a difficult situation. Someone coming out and saying that Lori Drew should not be credited for the death of Megan Meier usually gets vilified. But the truth is, as you say, what of the countless others who have committed suicide after being bullied? What of the other people in their lives that should have seen that they were depressed and try to help?
The bullies and the others who could/should have helped also share in the blame.
I am one of many people in my circle of associates that has been waiting for improvements such as this.
Without knowing who your "associates" are and how large/important they are, I would say this is irrelevant.
I stopped using Firefox (and IE before it) specifically because the speed wasn't up to par, and am now happily using Opera.
This I don't understand: "speed wasn't up to par". Is there some objective means to tell when something is fast or slow for yet emerging technologies? It sounds more like you are simply saying that you used whatever was fastest until you found something faster.
Also, I don't really agree with your other point, it smacks of the same opensource arrogance that permeates discussions around here. Firefox is not so much better tha IE that your scenario actually makes sense and the assumption that people are ignorant or are forced to use IE is just wrong.
Agreed. Although, I would say that for most people usability and reliability trump speed and "open-sourcy-ness".
Sorry but those have been available for a month now and for the most part they don't do much. If you follow those instructions you'll just get a Nvidia 2D driver. The Livna packagers have not pushed the Nvidia driver out of the development repository also.
Basically Nvidia Accelerated 3D will have to wait (compiz,etc.).
Fedora 8 had PulseAudio as well. However Fedora 9 seemed to work much better. I have Flash, Sound and Realplayer (i.e. another mozilla plugin) working perfectly in Fedora 9 x86_64. Some notes here: Fedora 9 Guide.
This seems really like comparing apples and oranges. Clearly embedded application of Linux is different from the desktop application. Just because Linux seemed ideal for one purpose it does not automatically make it great for something else. I would not be surprised if the developers who provide the PC update software for the device know little or nothing about the internal workings of the device.
I know that wordpress does make some profit. I guess the referrals for hosting is worth quite a bit. But I would have to wonder, how they would use whatever new information they are gathering (in addition to whatever they gathered in the past). I'm sure they plan to make $$$ out of it somehow. I personally don't trust anyone when gathering information (be it google, wordpress or the US gov).
I'm curious, since I really do not know your situation. Why would you work for 20 unpaid hours? If they force you, can't you find a better job?
There are either hourly workers or salaried workers, if you're salaried, did not you agree to being paid a fixed amount?
Not sure how your point relates to ethics. It seems as you are doing the compromise in accepting such a situation.
If your argument is that "salaried" situations are unfair, I can agree but I don't know if that is really an issue of ethics either. There will always be jobs where the physical amount worked does not directly equal compensation.
Looking over my website hits, it looks like 70% IE, 27% Mozilla, 0.3% Opera, a few Nokia or Blackberry and the rest is spiders. What does Safari identify as? I'm not seeing it at all in 30,000 hits.
In AWstats Safari identity is seen easily. What's your website? Content may or may not affect your usage. 30K is a rather small sample size in my opinion.
Using apx 3.3M hits (650K uniques), I get FF 56.3%, IE 28.5%, Moz 3.1%, Opera 2.3%, Safari 0.5%, Konqueror 1% and others (inc bots) 8%. With 56% using Windows! - And I run a linux based site - go figure. Although my more recent daily/monthly statistics put IE at a much higher value ~37%.
Bottom line for me, EVERYONE else's statistics are meaningless. Every 3-4 months I see either IE increase, or FF increase. I don't know what "17.4 percent of the browser market" even means to me? Even more worthless: the magic millions of FF downloads.
Yes I do but I don't want another version of FLASH!
Flash just sucks. It really does. Action Script is a terrible language there are all sorts of issues with flash.
Flash does suck in your case, but at the same time *someone* likes to develop using it. Who are these mysterious developers?
Why doesn't the FOSS community come up with a replacement for Flash and not just a copy?
Because there is absolutely no incentive. Look at all the reasons Flash is being used: ads, quick games, video, music, forms, etc. With the exception of ads, there is a totally free (open source) method that could work (java, ajax, svg, ogg, etc.). So then why would the "FOSS" community want to reinvent something?
Make a plug in for IE and get Firefox, Opera, and Safari to include it in their browsers?
While making a plugin is not so difficult, who would develop for it if there is no content for it? And if there was content for it, why would they want to move from their already existing platforms (Flash) and switch to something new?
Make it FOSS BSD please so the embedded people can use it for their systems.
Actually I've seen some Nokia devices that support Flash, I think one of the mini tablets also runs Linux. So Flash *could* be more widely supported, and I suspect it *eventually* will.... I'll bet Windows embedded devices will support Silverlight.... But again, without content it doesn't matter.
Use Ogg for the codecs.
Windows still won't ship with an OGG codec. I also remember reading that OGG was notably more CPU-intensive (still true?). While I have no objections to OGG, I do wish it was more widely supported (especially in some more popular mp3 players).
And write good authoring tools.
*** That's the biggest kicker. *** I personally think major FOSS "developer" products are seriously lacking when it comes to multimedia compared to commercial products (Flash, Director, etc.). Even if there was an perfect plugin, the SDK and all related tools including deployment would take a serious effort to polish to be even remotely competitive with current offerings.
Make it good, open, and free.
A great goal, but unrealistic. In the end the commercial incentive for Flash (or Silverlight) are what pushes it forward, not any form of openness or accessibility. If you can't make money out of it, I doubt it will be widely used or developed.
Ultimately it would be in everyone's best interest to use what (non-proprietary) plugin systems that already exist interfaced with already open standards/technology.
When I flew international in 2004, every movie was on a "channel" and everyone watching that movie would be doing so at the same time. However in early 2006, I too saw Linux in flight. Now the movies were ondemand with fast forward, pause, etc. But like most people I saw the system reboot WAY too much, one 2.5hr long movie crashed at least 4 times in between. Thank goodness for fast-forward. But I agree the GUI is really what makes the difference not necessarily the operating system.
The systems all work pretty much the same, which I suppose puts the lie to the Microsoft astroturfers who are constantly posting here about how Linux won't succeed because Grandma can't use it.
Linux on a general purpose desktop is NOT the same as a tailored networked in flight media kiosk.
The only downside I've found (with either software) is that I don't get any sleep. Too many good movies to watch, games to play, and so on.
I totally agree. In some ways I wish there was a mandatory "all off" period.
Well I'm sure you have it working great for you, but the devil's in the details. Those added cooler features do not mean much if many of the expected features still hiccup or act quirky.
One (of the many) annoying problem with OOCalc is how it handles auto-filtering. If I auto-filter on a set, then add entries at the end, when I change the selection the new entry does not get filtered. So then I have to reselect everything re-run the filter. But if one of the columns is date and I have formulas based on date, then I run into other problems. I've tried this with native file format and with.XLS, no luck. Excel 97 (over 9 yrs old) seems to get it right.
This is just one of the *many* tiny little nuisances I just cannot deal with as they make me do more work. I give OpenOffice a try every major release to see how many issues get resolved, but I don't see it happening any time soon. Right now I just have Office 2000 running in WINE. It works.
I am *no* Microsoft Office fan. I used WordPerfect till the end. Then to add insult to injury some of my old WordPerfect files still don't load correctly in OpenOffice. Well they have made *significant* improvements, to be fair, originally Abiword was the only thing that loaded them.
But back to the original point, there are many tiny quirks that make OOCalc and OO difficult (sometimes impossible) to use. I look forward to its eventual perfection.
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Doesn't that imply one has a network setup that can perform such an install?
I've had a DVD-ROM for years, but I would always download the CD ISO file. I would only burn CD#1 to a CD-RW and load the rest using a hard drive install. Very very fast. It was better back in the days when I could do it with a 3.5 floppy disk. The annoying thing about the testing process for Fedora 7 was that I had to download a DVD image every time and burn it to a DVD-RW (to spare creating a toaster DVD every month, but it toasted a DVD-RW anyways). Yes, I *just* bought my first DVD writer. Personally I found having CD ISO's was just a lot faster and easier than the other choices.
I have done NFS network installs for FC6 on laptops, but all things considered for a novice I can't say this would be easy or painless - IMO.
2.5 years of volunteering to maintain a MySpace page is hardly work. He was putting the effort because he wanted to. No one ever agreed to pay him, so why should he expect the same amount of money as someone that is hired through a contract previously agreed upon?
If you read the level of involvement he put in, it is definitely work. I don't understand how you can call it "hardly work".... Who said expecting money? He was asked by the Obama camp for a number for a fee and he gave one. Up till that point the Obama camp was working with him. If someone asked you to give up your pet project for a fee, then I would think that you would come up with a fee. Whether that fee was high or not should have been handled in negotiation, which the Obama camp did not do.
Say after a few years, an animal shelter no longer needs the services of a volunteer dog walker because a group of professional dog handlers agree to walk the dogs. Wouldn't you think it would be a little unfair if the dog walker asked for compensation as if he worked there? The guy probably does deserve a dinner or some nice gifts for his services, but he agreed to work as a volunteer, not as an employee.
I don't understand the comparison. A service is one thing, but this person had created a community. The control of which could be transferred from one person to another. Whether you're an employee or not, all work and time investment can be measured.
I don't blame Obama's campaign for being offended by his offer. While 50k might seem like a drop in the bucket, to successfully run a campaign for presidency, you need all the money you can get. They probably should have just given him an amount that they thought was fair, instead of asking him though.
Offended is a strong word, and even if they were, they have no right to hijack his Myspace community that he built with his time and effort. He was not hurting the campaign, breaking any rules and he was not out for profit or personal gain.... The Obama camp should have built their own, I'm sure they could do better in the next 2 yrs before the election as this person did in the past 2.
I am not debating the value of his effort, just that the Obama camp were not in the right in their rude behaviour. Worse yet he is being painted as an extortionist/blackmailer (perhaps some ignorance on his part) but his intentions were sincere.
And if you really care for the campaign needing "all the money they can get", we'll wait and see if they can get rid of this mess for a mere $50K.
They wanted the profile and asked me to propose a fee, and indicated that Myspace was ok with this. I have no experience making such proposals and had no idea what to ask for.
I proposed a fee, and now they're accusing me of looking for a "big payday".
This is not blackmail. This is not me cashing in on the profile.
I do not believe that one person on that profile, who has personally witnessed the close personal attention I've dedicated to this community since 2004 would disagree with this.
There is some sincerity. Everyone sees $49,000 and just jumps to conclusions. He's being asked for a number to give up 2.5 years worth of work. And he told the truth. Apparently the Obama team didn't even bother with negotiating at all. They ignored him and took the high handed approach. Very disrespectful.
The thing that always bugs me about television is that once it is broadcasted often it is impossible to find/watch again. Granted many shows are coming to DVD, as well as some special's but the bottom line is that there are some true gems (whether news, SNL clips or foreign commercials) that cannot be bought by any other means. While I'm not advocating ignoring copyright, I do think it is silly that Viacom thinks that all the content is worth a billion dollars when less than 0.001% of the people would probably buy it.
This reminds me of the RIAA's outrageous claims on how much every song is worth (only when pirated, but not necessarily related to actual sales). Profit by litigation.
Why wouldn't you get an MP3 player that simply acts as a USB mass storage device? Even now, the cost of buying a new MP3 player that doesn't use some proprietary interface would be less than that of a copy of XP.
You assume that I was the one who selected it for myself. It was a gift, and a very nice one at that.
Even software cost for XP, although too high, is still manageable. Luckily, I never paid for my Windows 2000 or Windows XP. Microsoft gave them to me for free - back when I was in college (along with Visual Studio and countless other things). I regret I didn't know to use Ebay back then.
Later agreed. I dual boot between Windows 2000 and Linux where I'm in linux about 90% of the time. But the irony is that ONLY NOW am I upgrading to XP. Not because I really wanted to (as 2000 still meets my needs) but rather because I got an MP3 player that required Windows Media 10 to sync and hence I require XP.
When it comes to operating systems, things typically boil down to the least common denominator. People still hang on to old stuff if they can't get something to work in the new system, or in my case it was the opposite. I really wanted my MP3 player to work, so I switched. Chances are that some game or some hardware will probably push the upgrade, but as far as I can see, I just don't see that killer product... yet.
Although, this is the true bliss with spare partitions and dual/triple booting. I still have a spare 20GB partition that I called "Future Vista" about 6 months ago, when I re-partitioned everything.
> you took it a little personal
Don't play so naive. That's how you meant it.
Don't be so presumptuous. Looks like you misunderstood. I meant you took it personal when your teachers didn't believe you (then, not now).
$gt; what were you trying to accomplish?
Writing my papers while playing on my C=64....
Misunderstood my question. I was asking, what you were hoping to accomplish trying to convince obviously stubborn teachers, not trying to accomplish technically with your computer. Afterall you did say your teachers were convinced.
> to think that their teachers would relent
They did. You lose. My stories were frequently the ones selected to be read by the teacher for the whole class.
What did I lose? Perhaps you mean your teachers lose? If in the end your teachers accepted your work, then the whole thing is pretty moot anyways. I would imagine that if your work was accepted once, then your teacher would not accuse you of cheating later? Odd. Oh well, I guess it doesn't matter much since you won anyways.
Your question makes the implies that I should have relented, buckled, submitted. A more honest question is: Why was I being subject to targetted harassment just because my teachers couldn't accept that I already knew how to compose and write using a computer?
Interesting. Sounds like you took it a little personal. I guess the more important question is what were you trying to accomplish? Education is irrelevant of handwriting or typewriting, as you've demonstrated. Perhaps 7th graders are a bit naive to think that their teachers would relent, especially in the late 80's. Point being - some things are not worth fighting. Pick your battles wisely.
Why focus on me? What have I done wrong? Why not focus on them?
Because there is no need to focus on them. They were ignorant, but apparently you knew much more than them. I'm surprised you would bother trying more than once (7th and 8th) with similar results. I find it a bit silly to think that you could convince such an ignorant teacher that you were not guilty of some sort of cheating.
You indirectly show an issue of the problems with Wikipedia itself - assuming that something is inherently flawed (or inherently more accurate) based entirely on how it is written or created.
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Ask the same question to the average suicide bomber? Promises of afterlife glory are very persuasive to poor people with nothing else to lose.
I think that is a poor comparison, the former is about someone who dies for a belief (as in his own life), while the latter is someone who is killing for a belief (and taking many other lives with his own).
Funny - I've usually seen it's the geeks who take the trouble to turn on the 'classic' look and feel in Windows and get rid of all the cloying eye-candy. Meanwhile non-technical users just stick with the default.
That's the power of the "default" which is a big deal as well. Most non-technical people don't even realize such options exist or that you do not have to use the default. To be fair though, to Microsoft's credit, often the default is good enough and many don't even care to change it because it will typically allow one to get the job done. Some might say this is NOT the case with some recent changes in Linux desktop environments.
Couldn't agree more. This article would be 2/3rds right if this was 1995. But almost every thing in this article has been corrected for years and years.
I find it odd how people go on and on about how stuff isn't ready for prime time in Linux but I run the bleeding edge of the raw hide branch of Fedora on multiple computers doing different tasks and I never see the kinds of problems these people go on and on about. I run server farms with Redhat and stuff just works. The only time stuff doesn't just work on Linux is when Solaris admins go "Linux is Unix" and then try to run their Linux boxes like they are Solaris and screw them up.
I think it is very possible that with the right hardware someone might have your opinion, and with the wrong hardware someone might have the opinion expressed in the article, which would still imply that problems DO exist.
I am experienced enough to not be affected by many of those issues, but it is very obvious to me that XP seriously outperforms my Fedora.
And as far as I understand, Redhat is Server not Desktop, which is not really the points of the article.
It is a difficult situation. Someone coming out and saying that Lori Drew should not be credited for the death of Megan Meier usually gets vilified. But the truth is, as you say, what of the countless others who have committed suicide after being bullied? What of the other people in their lives that should have seen that they were depressed and try to help?
The bullies and the others who could/should have helped also share in the blame.
I am one of many people in my circle of associates that has been waiting for improvements such as this.
Without knowing who your "associates" are and how large/important they are, I would say this is irrelevant.
I stopped using Firefox (and IE before it) specifically because the speed wasn't up to par, and am now happily using Opera.
This I don't understand: "speed wasn't up to par". Is there some objective means to tell when something is fast or slow for yet emerging technologies? It sounds more like you are simply saying that you used whatever was fastest until you found something faster.
Also, I don't really agree with your other point, it smacks of the same opensource arrogance that permeates discussions around here. Firefox is not so much better tha IE that your scenario actually makes sense and the assumption that people are ignorant or are forced to use IE is just wrong.
Agreed. Although, I would say that for most people usability and reliability trump speed and "open-sourcy-ness".
Sorry but those have been available for a month now and for the most part they don't do much. If you follow those instructions you'll just get a Nvidia 2D driver. The Livna packagers have not pushed the Nvidia driver out of the development repository also.
Basically Nvidia Accelerated 3D will have to wait (compiz,etc.).
Fedora 8 had PulseAudio as well. However Fedora 9 seemed to work much better. I have Flash, Sound and Realplayer (i.e. another mozilla plugin) working perfectly in Fedora 9 x86_64. Some notes here: Fedora 9 Guide.
Btw, the "core" has been dropped (FC9 -> F9).
+1 ... agreed. Sometimes you *don't* want to know who you are cutting off or cheating. It makes it easier to do.
"Or, you know, you could just be better then your competition and actually actively prevent forking by listening to what your users want."
Do you mean users or developers? Big difference.
"Consumer" seems very misleading to me.
This seems really like comparing apples and oranges. Clearly embedded application of Linux is different from the desktop application. Just because Linux seemed ideal for one purpose it does not automatically make it great for something else. I would not be surprised if the developers who provide the PC update software for the device know little or nothing about the internal workings of the device.
I know that wordpress does make some profit. I guess the referrals for hosting is worth quite a bit. But I would have to wonder, how they would use whatever new information they are gathering (in addition to whatever they gathered in the past). I'm sure they plan to make $$$ out of it somehow. I personally don't trust anyone when gathering information (be it google, wordpress or the US gov).
Just for fun I thought I'd mention the past incident when Wordpress intentionally violating Google Adwords to make money.
I'm curious, since I really do not know your situation. Why would you work for 20 unpaid hours? If they force you, can't you find a better job?
There are either hourly workers or salaried workers, if you're salaried, did not you agree to being paid a fixed amount?
Not sure how your point relates to ethics. It seems as you are doing the compromise in accepting such a situation.
If your argument is that "salaried" situations are unfair, I can agree but I don't know if that is really an issue of ethics either. There will always be jobs where the physical amount worked does not directly equal compensation.
In AWstats Safari identity is seen easily. What's your website? Content may or may not affect your usage. 30K is a rather small sample size in my opinion.
Using apx 3.3M hits (650K uniques), I get FF 56.3%, IE 28.5%, Moz 3.1%, Opera 2.3%, Safari 0.5%, Konqueror 1% and others (inc bots) 8%. With 56% using Windows! - And I run a linux based site - go figure. Although my more recent daily/monthly statistics put IE at a much higher value ~37%.
Bottom line for me, EVERYONE else's statistics are meaningless. Every 3-4 months I see either IE increase, or FF increase. I don't know what "17.4 percent of the browser market" even means to me? Even more worthless: the magic millions of FF downloads.
Flash does suck in your case, but at the same time *someone* likes to develop using it. Who are these mysterious developers?
Because there is absolutely no incentive. Look at all the reasons Flash is being used: ads, quick games, video, music, forms, etc. With the exception of ads, there is a totally free (open source) method that could work (java, ajax, svg, ogg, etc.). So then why would the "FOSS" community want to reinvent something?
While making a plugin is not so difficult, who would develop for it if there is no content for it? And if there was content for it, why would they want to move from their already existing platforms (Flash) and switch to something new?
Actually I've seen some Nokia devices that support Flash, I think one of the mini tablets also runs Linux. So Flash *could* be more widely supported, and I suspect it *eventually* will. ... I'll bet Windows embedded devices will support Silverlight. ... But again, without content it doesn't matter.
Windows still won't ship with an OGG codec. I also remember reading that OGG was notably more CPU-intensive (still true?). While I have no objections to OGG, I do wish it was more widely supported (especially in some more popular mp3 players).
*** That's the biggest kicker. *** I personally think major FOSS "developer" products are seriously lacking when it comes to multimedia compared to commercial products (Flash, Director, etc.). Even if there was an perfect plugin, the SDK and all related tools including deployment would take a serious effort to polish to be even remotely competitive with current offerings.
A great goal, but unrealistic. In the end the commercial incentive for Flash (or Silverlight) are what pushes it forward, not any form of openness or accessibility. If you can't make money out of it, I doubt it will be widely used or developed.
Ultimately it would be in everyone's best interest to use what (non-proprietary) plugin systems that already exist interfaced with already open standards/technology.
When I flew international in 2004, every movie was on a "channel" and everyone watching that movie would be doing so at the same time. However in early 2006, I too saw Linux in flight. Now the movies were ondemand with fast forward, pause, etc. But like most people I saw the system reboot WAY too much, one 2.5hr long movie crashed at least 4 times in between. Thank goodness for fast-forward. But I agree the GUI is really what makes the difference not necessarily the operating system.
Linux on a general purpose desktop is NOT the same as a tailored networked in flight media kiosk.
I totally agree. In some ways I wish there was a mandatory "all off" period.
Well I'm sure you have it working great for you, but the devil's in the details. Those added cooler features do not mean much if many of the expected features still hiccup or act quirky.
One (of the many) annoying problem with OOCalc is how it handles auto-filtering. If I auto-filter on a set, then add entries at the end, when I change the selection the new entry does not get filtered. So then I have to reselect everything re-run the filter. But if one of the columns is date and I have formulas based on date, then I run into other problems. I've tried this with native file format and with .XLS, no luck. Excel 97 (over 9 yrs old) seems to get it right.
This is just one of the *many* tiny little nuisances I just cannot deal with as they make me do more work. I give OpenOffice a try every major release to see how many issues get resolved, but I don't see it happening any time soon. Right now I just have Office 2000 running in WINE. It works.
I am *no* Microsoft Office fan. I used WordPerfect till the end. Then to add insult to injury some of my old WordPerfect files still don't load correctly in OpenOffice. Well they have made *significant* improvements, to be fair, originally Abiword was the only thing that loaded them.
But back to the original point, there are many tiny quirks that make OOCalc and OO difficult (sometimes impossible) to use. I look forward to its eventual perfection.
Doesn't that imply one has a network setup that can perform such an install?
I've had a DVD-ROM for years, but I would always download the CD ISO file. I would only burn CD#1 to a CD-RW and load the rest using a hard drive install. Very very fast. It was better back in the days when I could do it with a 3.5 floppy disk. The annoying thing about the testing process for Fedora 7 was that I had to download a DVD image every time and burn it to a DVD-RW (to spare creating a toaster DVD every month, but it toasted a DVD-RW anyways). Yes, I *just* bought my first DVD writer. Personally I found having CD ISO's was just a lot faster and easier than the other choices.
I have done NFS network installs for FC6 on laptops, but all things considered for a novice I can't say this would be easy or painless - IMO.
"the problem he ran into was the lack of inexpensive hardware that worked on Linux."
Out of curiosity, does that imply that there is expensive hardware that does work with linux?
If you read the level of involvement he put in, it is definitely work. I don't understand how you can call it "hardly work".
I don't understand the comparison. A service is one thing, but this person had created a community. The control of which could be transferred from one person to another. Whether you're an employee or not, all work and time investment can be measured.
Offended is a strong word, and even if they were, they have no right to hijack his Myspace community that he built with his time and effort. He was not hurting the campaign, breaking any rules and he was not out for profit or personal gain.
I am not debating the value of his effort, just that the Obama camp were not in the right in their rude behaviour. Worse yet he is being painted as an extortionist/blackmailer (perhaps some ignorance on his part) but his intentions were sincere.
And if you really care for the campaign needing "all the money they can get", we'll wait and see if they can get rid of this mess for a mere $50K.
Read the techPresident link:
http://www.techpresident.com/node/301
There is some sincerity. Everyone sees $49,000 and just jumps to conclusions. He's being asked for a number to give up 2.5 years worth of work. And he told the truth. Apparently the Obama team didn't even bother with negotiating at all. They ignored him and took the high handed approach. Very disrespectful.
Agreed.
The thing that always bugs me about television is that once it is broadcasted often it is impossible to find/watch again. Granted many shows are coming to DVD, as well as some special's but the bottom line is that there are some true gems (whether news, SNL clips or foreign commercials) that cannot be bought by any other means. While I'm not advocating ignoring copyright, I do think it is silly that Viacom thinks that all the content is worth a billion dollars when less than 0.001% of the people would probably buy it.
This reminds me of the RIAA's outrageous claims on how much every song is worth (only when pirated, but not necessarily related to actual sales). Profit by litigation.
You assume that I was the one who selected it for myself. It was a gift, and a very nice one at that.
Even software cost for XP, although too high, is still manageable. Luckily, I never paid for my Windows 2000 or Windows XP. Microsoft gave them to me for free - back when I was in college (along with Visual Studio and countless other things). I regret I didn't know to use Ebay back then.
Later agreed. I dual boot between Windows 2000 and Linux where I'm in linux about 90% of the time. But the irony is that ONLY NOW am I upgrading to XP. Not because I really wanted to (as 2000 still meets my needs) but rather because I got an MP3 player that required Windows Media 10 to sync and hence I require XP.
... yet.
When it comes to operating systems, things typically boil down to the least common denominator. People still hang on to old stuff if they can't get something to work in the new system, or in my case it was the opposite. I really wanted my MP3 player to work, so I switched. Chances are that some game or some hardware will probably push the upgrade, but as far as I can see, I just don't see that killer product
Although, this is the true bliss with spare partitions and dual/triple booting. I still have a spare 20GB partition that I called "Future Vista" about 6 months ago, when I re-partitioned everything.
Don't be so presumptuous. Looks like you misunderstood. I meant you took it personal when your teachers didn't believe you (then, not now).
Misunderstood my question. I was asking, what you were hoping to accomplish trying to convince obviously stubborn teachers, not trying to accomplish technically with your computer. Afterall you did say your teachers were convinced.
What did I lose? Perhaps you mean your teachers lose? If in the end your teachers accepted your work, then the whole thing is pretty moot anyways. I would imagine that if your work was accepted once, then your teacher would not accuse you of cheating later? Odd. Oh well, I guess it doesn't matter much since you won anyways.
Interesting. Sounds like you took it a little personal. I guess the more important question is what were you trying to accomplish? Education is irrelevant of handwriting or typewriting, as you've demonstrated. Perhaps 7th graders are a bit naive to think that their teachers would relent, especially in the late 80's. Point being - some things are not worth fighting. Pick your battles wisely.
Because there is no need to focus on them. They were ignorant, but apparently you knew much more than them. I'm surprised you would bother trying more than once (7th and 8th) with similar results. I find it a bit silly to think that you could convince such an ignorant teacher that you were not guilty of some sort of cheating.
You indirectly show an issue of the problems with Wikipedia itself - assuming that something is inherently flawed (or inherently more accurate) based entirely on how it is written or created.