He didn't put it up. He's a farmer who doesn't write reports about this. He just went to court to prove a point. I've been reading about this since it started, so piss off.
It's more like a quart an acre. And that's diluted with a lot of water before spraying. And that is sprayed long enough before a rain for a.) the spray to dry, and b.) the spray to absorb into the foliage.
If you've ever seen how little of the very diluted spray ends up on the ground you'd be amazed. In fact, it usually dries within a minute of hitting the ground, it's such a fine mist. Also, as has been said below, it quickly degrades harmlessly. Also, even if it was consumed in larger doses, it's not very toxic to animals at all.
They sued an old man who tested to see if his canola seed (non-Monsanto variety) contained traces of the Roundup Ready canola variety, by spraying a small section with Round-up. It lived, and thus contained Monsanto's patented genetics. He did not ever plant this variety, but instead had gotten these traits from windblown pollen in previous years, from others' fields.
However, it was ruled that he's responsible for these traits appearing in his field, despite never using them, and not having a way to prevent them from appearing. He can't control pollen travelling through the air anymore than anyone else. But he's still responsible for some stupid reason.
However, I don't think this would fly in the US. Why? Well, first of all, Canadians tend to do this type of litigation. You know how there's a premium for CD-R's, DVD-R's and other recordable media that is paid to artists, with the assumption that piracy will occur? Well, it's pretty much the same deal here, and will end up the same way such litigation and legislation has in the US.
Is it possible to download a year-update to ESPN football? You'd still have the same graphics, play options, controls, ect, as the old version, but at least you'd have the new players, coaches and their respective skillsets.
E.G. It'd be nice to play as the Steelers with Ben Roethlisberger.. Against the Browns with McCown:P
And they can get away with alot, like treatment refusals and having english majors decide the best treatment option.
And then promptly get sued for malpractice.
The healthcare industry is still beholdent to private stockholders
No, they're beholdent to themselves. Believe it or not, the healthcare industry is not an oligarchy, ruled only by big business and profit. To claim that the entire industry is owned by stockholders is just ignorant.
they just have to work within the confines of goverment regulation that tries to protect patients.
There are literally thousands of pages of regulations on how to deal with patients. It's impossible to think that physicians know all of this information, plus the ungodly amount of knowledge required by the profession itself.
This is no different from what health insurance companies do.
Wrong. With Medicare, the government sets the price, and pays the bill, with the patient paying pretty much nothing, excepting prescriptions. With health insurance, the hospital sets the price, the insurance company says "we pay x for y treatment," and the patient pays the rest.
Most Universities already have MS contracts, where every student is licensed to use MS OS's and Office products. This alone takes out a huge number of potential pirated copies of software. Add in the Dell/Gateways, and really, there aren't quite as many MS pirates in the US as you might think.
Did you see the pictures of the protestors during the Republican National Convention? Some of them were still wearing their press passes! I sh1t you not.
The Allais effect is a small additional acceleration, so tiny that it would take an apple about a day to fall from a tree branch if it were the only gravitational effect around.
Does this make sense to anyone? An effect having a physical size? That's like saying "I ran about a gravity yesterday, man I was tired."
PSP. This little acronym stands for Perfomance Service Plan, or better known to most as an extended warranty. It is the single biggest thing harped on by managers to their sales staff to be absolutely certain to sell.
Now, I realize that these service plans are absolute CRAP to me and you. But imagine the poor bugger who buys an eMachine? Their hardware dies within a year, almost every time. What are they to do? That plan comes in real handy. Sure, it's cheaper to fix that box on your own. But these people are what we call "idiots." It's cheaper, for them, to not learn about their computer, and pay someone else to deal with it. Sure, these are the same people who never update their Home edition, who don't know much else besides email and a browser, but that's not the issue. For these people, the service rape... er plan, is fine.
So I move in for free with a guy for the summer. Very nice house, but he has this old 450p3 Gateway, Win98, and it's dying (Southbridge going out). I've spent prolly 60 hours on that sucker, and now it runs, albeit barely. What a nightmare. And I feel obligated to get things working, as I'm living there for free.
Anyway, I considered Linux, but then he couldn't run things like MS Money 2004, or a few games that I refuse to put on there. A reinstall with Win2k and FF fixed most of his problems, ZA and NAV finally installed, and he's on his farking own now. While he may not be naive, he doesn't really do much with his computer anyway: look at pornsites, check email, fark, play starcraft and CS. Linux is just too much of a hassle for me/him.
My regular-ass IDE 120 gig hdd is worth more than my car. It's seriously a contender for "Pimp My Ride," with a ceiling held up with tacks, dented doors that barely open, rust all over, broken seat belts, bent gas door, scratches, dings, no radio, drivers seat that is so worn it cut holes in my pants...
I've recently started to use Adblock with Firefox. Now, not only are all my pop-ups blocked, but I never saw an ad. It seriously took me a week to adjust to actually reading the information in front of me. Before, I'd automatically scan past most pictures and words before reading anything.
Honest to God, it freaked me out. I even mentioned how weird it was to other people. Of course they gave me a weird look by saying all of this, but nevertheless it's true.
Hell Goes to Frogtown starring Rowdy Roddy Piper is so bad no one has seen it except those who go out to watch bad movies on purpose (but not MST3K movies, those are different).
And yes, we did in fact attempt to find the worst movies, and watch them. Our only rule was that we had to find it on DVD, which supposedly limited it to movies that weren't completely obscure.
Actually, I think it was more the feel of it. I really don't like the netscape-style toolbars, for example, or the load time on this old box I use. I'm sure it was a fine fine product sir.
Touche'. Although I've never thought of Moz at V1.0 to be usable enough to make into my main browser anyway. Hopefully FF1.0 will be really really redicuosly good working.
However, it's my opinion that FF >> IE, in so many respects as to be overwhelming. I was having a conversation with someone the other day about FF extensions, and how they do so many cool things so easily. How will IE ever be able to catch up? It seems like anything for IE with the usefullness of the FF/Moz extensions (10k - 100k), requires a 20x larger download and another program that needs to run constantly (i.e, pardon the pun, a program that uses more resources and is a pain in the arse.) Even if IE makes tabbed browsing possible, and blocks pop-ups as they claim, it will never ever catch back up.
I suggest we tell the Mozilla Foundation guys to buy some OReilly security titles and read up, and come back with something that's actually not buggy
Hi, welcome to Firefox beta.93
Anyway, do you think that FF/Moz should take the Windows route and refuse to acknowledge vulnerabilities, and simply hope they pass by with no one else noticing? Please, think a little bit before posting a comment.
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He didn't put it up. He's a farmer who doesn't write reports about this. He just went to court to prove a point. I've been reading about this since it started, so piss off.
Q: What's funnier than a dupe?
A: When they're wrong the second time around. MP3 is proprietary. Ogg, for example, is not.
It's more like a quart an acre. And that's diluted with a lot of water before spraying. And that is sprayed long enough before a rain for a.) the spray to dry, and b.) the spray to absorb into the foliage.
If you've ever seen how little of the very diluted spray ends up on the ground you'd be amazed. In fact, it usually dries within a minute of hitting the ground, it's such a fine mist. Also, as has been said below, it quickly degrades harmlessly. Also, even if it was consumed in larger doses, it's not very toxic to animals at all.
They sued an old man who tested to see if his canola seed (non-Monsanto variety) contained traces of the Roundup Ready canola variety, by spraying a small section with Round-up. It lived, and thus contained Monsanto's patented genetics. He did not ever plant this variety, but instead had gotten these traits from windblown pollen in previous years, from others' fields.
However, it was ruled that he's responsible for these traits appearing in his field, despite never using them, and not having a way to prevent them from appearing. He can't control pollen travelling through the air anymore than anyone else. But he's still responsible for some stupid reason.
However, I don't think this would fly in the US. Why? Well, first of all, Canadians tend to do this type of litigation. You know how there's a premium for CD-R's, DVD-R's and other recordable media that is paid to artists, with the assumption that piracy will occur? Well, it's pretty much the same deal here, and will end up the same way such litigation and legislation has in the US.
Is it possible to download a year-update to ESPN football? You'd still have the same graphics, play options, controls, ect, as the old version, but at least you'd have the new players, coaches and their respective skillsets.
E.G. It'd be nice to play as the Steelers with Ben Roethlisberger.. Against the Browns with McCown :P
And they can get away with alot, like treatment refusals and having english majors decide the best treatment option.
And then promptly get sued for malpractice.
The healthcare industry is still beholdent to private stockholders
No, they're beholdent to themselves. Believe it or not, the healthcare industry is not an oligarchy, ruled only by big business and profit. To claim that the entire industry is owned by stockholders is just ignorant.
they just have to work within the confines of goverment regulation that tries to protect patients.
There are literally thousands of pages of regulations on how to deal with patients. It's impossible to think that physicians know all of this information, plus the ungodly amount of knowledge required by the profession itself.
This is no different from what health insurance companies do.
Wrong. With Medicare, the government sets the price, and pays the bill, with the patient paying pretty much nothing, excepting prescriptions. With health insurance, the hospital sets the price, the insurance company says "we pay x for y treatment," and the patient pays the rest.
Most Universities already have MS contracts, where every student is licensed to use MS OS's and Office products. This alone takes out a huge number of potential pirated copies of software. Add in the Dell/Gateways, and really, there aren't quite as many MS pirates in the US as you might think.
Did you see the pictures of the protestors during the Republican National Convention? Some of them were still wearing their press passes! I sh1t you not.
Actually, I prefer to not post AC in case i'm modded "troll" or down in some way, thus affecting my karma as it should.
My sentence is grammatically correct. "Stupidly" is an adverb describing the way it was said.
I understand what they're trying to say, but they said it so stupidly...
This one made my BRAIN HURT:
The Allais effect is a small additional acceleration, so tiny that it would take an apple about a day to fall from a tree branch if it were the only gravitational effect around.
Does this make sense to anyone? An effect having a physical size? That's like saying "I ran about a gravity yesterday, man I was tired."
PSP. This little acronym stands for Perfomance Service Plan, or better known to most as an extended warranty. It is the single biggest thing harped on by managers to their sales staff to be absolutely certain to sell.
Now, I realize that these service plans are absolute CRAP to me and you. But imagine the poor bugger who buys an eMachine? Their hardware dies within a year, almost every time. What are they to do? That plan comes in real handy. Sure, it's cheaper to fix that box on your own. But these people are what we call "idiots." It's cheaper, for them, to not learn about their computer, and pay someone else to deal with it. Sure, these are the same people who never update their Home edition, who don't know much else besides email and a browser, but that's not the issue. For these people, the service rape... er plan, is fine.
What are they going to do, play freecell at work? Please, don't let them take up an American work ethic! (/me is American, please laugh)
Yup, bought it second hand. I think it was just a dollar or two at "Second Time Around." It was so bad, the topless flashes weren't even worth it.
His hdd is only 6 gigs to start with....
Heh, it helps more if more than one IDE channel is working. Secondary went out, or I would throw another hdd in there.
So I move in for free with a guy for the summer. Very nice house, but he has this old 450p3 Gateway, Win98, and it's dying (Southbridge going out). I've spent prolly 60 hours on that sucker, and now it runs, albeit barely. What a nightmare. And I feel obligated to get things working, as I'm living there for free.
Anyway, I considered Linux, but then he couldn't run things like MS Money 2004, or a few games that I refuse to put on there. A reinstall with Win2k and FF fixed most of his problems, ZA and NAV finally installed, and he's on his farking own now. While he may not be naive, he doesn't really do much with his computer anyway: look at pornsites, check email, fark, play starcraft and CS. Linux is just too much of a hassle for me/him.
I now refuse to touch Gateways. They suck so bad.
My regular-ass IDE 120 gig hdd is worth more than my car. It's seriously a contender for "Pimp My Ride," with a ceiling held up with tacks, dented doors that barely open, rust all over, broken seat belts, bent gas door, scratches, dings, no radio, drivers seat that is so worn it cut holes in my pants...
I've recently started to use Adblock with Firefox. Now, not only are all my pop-ups blocked, but I never saw an ad. It seriously took me a week to adjust to actually reading the information in front of me. Before, I'd automatically scan past most pictures and words before reading anything.
Honest to God, it freaked me out. I even mentioned how weird it was to other people. Of course they gave me a weird look by saying all of this, but nevertheless it's true.
Hell Goes to Frogtown starring Rowdy Roddy Piper is so bad no one has seen it except those who go out to watch bad movies on purpose (but not MST3K movies, those are different).
And yes, we did in fact attempt to find the worst movies, and watch them. Our only rule was that we had to find it on DVD, which supposedly limited it to movies that weren't completely obscure.
No, i was mocking the parent post that got modded down to oblivion.
Actually, I think it was more the feel of it. I really don't like the netscape-style toolbars, for example, or the load time on this old box I use. I'm sure it was a fine fine product sir.
Touche'. Although I've never thought of Moz at V1.0 to be usable enough to make into my main browser anyway. Hopefully FF1.0 will be really really redicuosly good working.
However, it's my opinion that FF >> IE, in so many respects as to be overwhelming. I was having a conversation with someone the other day about FF extensions, and how they do so many cool things so easily. How will IE ever be able to catch up? It seems like anything for IE with the usefullness of the FF/Moz extensions (10k - 100k), requires a 20x larger download and another program that needs to run constantly (i.e, pardon the pun, a program that uses more resources and is a pain in the arse.) Even if IE makes tabbed browsing possible, and blocks pop-ups as they claim, it will never ever catch back up.
I suggest we tell the Mozilla Foundation guys to buy some OReilly security titles and read up, and come back with something that's actually not buggy
Hi, welcome to Firefox beta .93
Anyway, do you think that FF/Moz should take the Windows route and refuse to acknowledge vulnerabilities, and simply hope they pass by with no one else noticing? Please, think a little bit before posting a comment.